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Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)

USIS Washington File

18 March 1998

TRANSCRIPT: DOD ON COUNTERING TERRORIST USE OF WMD IN U.S.

(Plan to use National Guard and Reserve forces) (5730)
Washington -- The Department of Defense (DOD) has introduced a new
intiative to bolster the nation's ability to respond to possible use
by terrorists of weapons of mass destruction on U.S. soil.
The briefers March 17 were Robert M. Walker, acting secretary of the
Army; Deborah R. Lee, assistant secretary of defense, reserve affairs;
and Brigadier General Roger C. Schultz, deputy director of military
support and deputy chief of staff, operations.
Weapons of mass destruction "constitute a growing threat worldwide.
The end of the Cold War, the break-up of the Soviet Union, and the
increasing global nature of our economy have made it easier for
terrorists and criminal networks to possibly acquire such weapons,"
Lee said.
The Pentagon is establishing a plan to use National Guard and Reserve
forces and to improve DOD's capabilities to support local, state and
federal civil authorities if use of a weapon of mass destruction
occurs or is threatened, she said.
"We're training local fire, police and emergency medical personnel on
how to deal with what could be catastrophic effects of a weapons of
mass destruction incident. Now, this program, we think, is getting
good results, but we feel that we can do more. So the program that we
are unveiling today involving our Guard and Reserve forces is designed
to complement these ongoing Nunn-Lugar-Domenici [training] efforts."
Lee noted that the plan envisions "the use of DoD assets to support
local, state and federal civil authorities. During any such incident,
DoD would be in a support role, not the lead role. Rather, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency would retain its lead federal agency
response position under such a scenario."
Following is a DOD transcript of the briefing:
(Begin transcript)
DoD News Briefing
The Pentagon
Tuesday, March 17, 1998
RESERVE COMPONENT INTEGRATION INTO RESPONSE TO ATTACKS USING WEAPONS
OF MASS DESTRUCTION
Acting Secretary of the Army Robert M. Walker 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs Deborah R. Lee  
Deputy Director of Military Support Brig. Gen. Roger C. Schultz 
Colonel Richard M. Bridges: Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. Today
we are here for an on-the-record briefing outlining the Department of
Defense's plans to integrate the reserve components into the
Department's response to incidents involving weapons of mass
destruction. Joining us to help explain the program announced earlier
today by Secretary Cohen will be Assistant Secretary of Defense for
Reserve Affairs, Deborah R. Lee, who will be followed by the acting
Secretary of the Army, Robert M. Walker. Following their opening
remarks, you will receive an outline of the program from Brigadier
General Roger C. Schultz, who is the deputy director of military
support, deputy chief of staff for operations.
Ms. Lee. 
Assistant Secretary Lee: Thank you, Colonel Bridges. And good
afternoon one and all.
As the Colonel said, we are here today to unveil what we believe to be
a very important initiative regarding our nation's ability to respond
to the possibility of terrorists' use of weapons of mass destruction
right here on U.S. soil.
As Secretary Cohen said just a few hours ago in a presentation before
the National Press Club, these deadly weapons of terror constitute a
growing threat worldwide. The end of the Cold War, the break up of the
Soviet Union and the increasing global nature of our economy have made
it easier for terrorists and criminal networks to possibly acquire
such weapons and so that's why we feel we must prepare to deal with
the consequences of the possibility of such an attack involving
chemical, biological or radiation weapons should that attack occur
here at home.
Now, the steps that we are beginning today, specifically the
announcement of a new plan to use our Guard and Reserve forces in this
fight as well as the establishment of a Guard and Reserve consequence
management program integration office will advance our overall
capabilities to support local, state and federal civil authorities in
the event a WMD, weapons of mass destruction, type of incident should
one day occur.
As you know, DoD has been a player in this realm for some time. We
have been very heavily involved in implementing what is called the
Nunn-Lugar-Domenici city training program, which is working to train
local first responders in 120 of our nation's largest cities. We're
training local fire, police and emergency medical personnel on how to
deal with what could be catastrophic effects of a weapons of mass
destruction incident. Now, this program, we think, is getting good
results, but we feel that we can do more. So the program that we are
unveiling today involving our Guard and Reserve forces is designed to
complement these on-going Nunn-Lugar-Domenici efforts.
Secretary Cohen has made it quite clear that he wants the Guard and
Reserve forces, our part time military forces, front and center when
it comes to DoD's response to terrorist attacks or the possibility of
such attacks here at home. Why the Guard and Reserve? Because they
live and they work in all of our communities. They know the lay of the
land. They have established links to the fire, police and emergency
medical personnel who are always the first responders when something
occurs here at home.
All Guard and Reserve forces already have significant capabilities to
support state governments in all types of disaster response. And
indeed, our National Guard in particular has a long history of such
service. The goal now is to take that baseline, to take those
capabilities and then adapt them to the requirements of consequence
management for weapons of mass destruction. Our Guard and Reserve
forces, consequently, will soon receive additional training and
equipment to prepare for this new mission.
Now, I want to stress that this is not a DoD mission alone and it is
certainly not a Guard and Reserve mission alone. But rather, what
we're talking about is the use of DoD assets to support local, state
and federal civil authorities. During any such incident, DoD would be
in a support role, not the lead role. Rather, the Federal Emergency
Management Agency would retain its lead federal agency response
position under such a scenario.
Now, this is a very, very big and important job. Should the
unthinkable occur and should a weapon of mass destruction actually be
used, responders, be they local, state or federal, will confront very
unique and very daunting challenges. Survivors of an incident will
need medical assistance. It will need to be immediate and it will
likely need to be massive. Survivors will need information on where
and how to get help. Specialists will have to identify the nature of
an attack and restrict access to hazardous areas. Others will need to
come in and decontaminate those areas. And rescue and medical
personnel will need to perform their missions without themselves also
becoming casualties. So like I said, it's a very big job.
Here's how we propose to do it. At its core, the plan foresees the
initial establishment of ten rapid assessment and detection teams.
These teams will be comprised of 22 highly trained, full time National
Guard personnel. And each of the teams will be tasked with a rapid
response mission. They're designed to arrive quickly on the scene of
an incident and they will be able to help local first responders
identify the nature of an attack and call in as follow-on forces the
right kinds of support. These teams are designed to form the tip of
our national military support and response spear. Complementing and
supporting these teams will be specially trained and equipped
decontamination and reconnaissance units which will be drawn from
existing Guard and Reserve force structure currently located across
the United States.
Now, we've budgeted almost $50 million dollars in the FY '99 budget to
begin this program of training and equipping and standing up these
teams around the country. They will report through the Director of
Military Support, up to one-half of who's staff will soon be comprised
of personnel from the Guard and Reserve world.
This plan, I will tell you, has been a very collaborative effort
between our active, Guard, Reserve and civilian leadership. And
indeed, under Secretary Cohen's leadership, I just want to note the
presence here today of Ambassador Holmes, our Assistant Secretary for
Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict. He is the keeper of the
Nunn-Lugar-Domenici program here in DoD. We also have General Baca,
our Chief of the National Guard, General Helmly, Chief of the Army
Reserve, we have General Davis, the vice Chief of the National Guard
Bureau, General Soriano, the Director of DOMS, and many others. Again,
this has been a very, very collaborative effort and all of these
individuals participated in the Tiger Team that helped to develop this
concept for using the Guard and Reserve for this mission.
And so now, if I may, I'd like to turn the podium over to the chair of
this effort, the chair of the Tiger Team, acting Secretary of the
Army, Mike Walker.
Secretary Walker:  Thank you very much, Debbie. 
I keep on my desk a jagged piece of glass which the FBI gave me from
the childcare center in the Murrow Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
I keep it there as a reminder of what can happen in America. One
hundred and sixty eight people died that day in Oklahoma City. But
5,000 would have died if that bomb had been a chemical weapon. So that
is what we faced with the potential of weapons of mass destruction.
As you know, the Secretary of Defense has named the Army for a number
of years to be the executive agent for military support to civil
authorities. That has traditionally focused on the assisting the lead
federal agency, FEMA, in responding to forest fires and floods and
hurricanes and earthquakes and the like. When Congress passed the
Nunn-Lugar-Domenici program, as Debbie mentioned, to train up to 120
cities in responding to domestic terrorism from weapons of mass
destruction, the Secretary named the Army to be the executive agent
for that program to proceed with the training.
And then last fall, he asked us to look at the potential of improving
the ability of the Guard and Reserve to assist in responding to
weapons of mass destruction. I established a Tiger Team, as Debbie
indicated, under the direction of Brigadier General Roger Schultz, who
is the Deputy Adjutant General from Iowa and is currently serving as
the Deputy Director of Military Support in the Army Operations Center.
General Schultz pulled together elements from all of the services,
from all the Reserve components and from OSD. And he also carefully
coordinated the preparation of the report with our interagency
partners and especially our lead at FEMA. In addition, he carefully
consulted and the Tiger Team carefully consulted with state and local
officials to find out what they needed most as we put this effort
together.
Now I will call on Roger Schultz in just a moment. But let me say that
this is a very serious subject. The experts tell us that it's their
view that it's not if, but when a weapon of mass destruction will be
used in this country. So it is very important that the American people
believe that their government's at every level are doing everything
possible to prepare for that potential. We believe that the program
that Secretary Cohen announced today is a step in that direction.
And General Schultz, if you come and explain to the folks. 
General Schultz: Thank you Secretary Walker, members of the press,
good afternoon.
Secretary Cohen's announcement earlier today regarding the nation's
preparedness for weapons of mass destruction response underscores the
Department of Defense interest in improving our ability to respond to
these attacks. And I'm going to talk for just a minute about the
detail that Ms. Lee and Secretary Walker have already introduced. And
as I do, I'll provide, then, the detail that we anticipate the Guard
and Reserve becoming a part of in terms of our overall response
efforts.
And we're talking about a support role that Ms. Lee has already
introduced. And at the center of this chart at the top, you'll notice
we use the word "support." And then in the center of the chart down
just a little bit, you'll also notice we talk about the Guard and
Reserve and our role of supporting our nation's response disasters, to
domestic emergencies. And so the theme of our work is integrating the
Guard and Reserve, the theme of our work is a support mission that Ms.
Lee has already introduced initially here.
The next chart talks about some of the detail regarding our recent
history in terms of where the Tiger Team that's already been mentioned
has been. This past November, we assembled a group of experts to look
at the military requirements to support a response to weapons of mass
destruction attack. And so we looked at the military functions, you'll
see at the top, and outlined, then, the integration that's already
mentioned briefly. And for certain, we talked about the program
definition, the tasks that obviously would fall out of that mission
statement in terms of the detail that we in the military, the Defense
Department, in this case, the Guard and Reserve, might be asked to
perform. So we looked at the interagency strategic plans and we looked
at the other requirements that the Guard and Reserve could be tasked
to accomplish.
Next chart. 
I want to get into just a little bit of the detail that Ms. Lee talked
about regarding our chain of command. Secretary Walker, of course, is
in our chain of command in terms of our day to day responsibility. But
I would like to point out that our relationship with Secretary Cohen
at the top left of the chart in relationship with the Secretary of the
Army, General Soriano has already been introduced, but the program
office that we're announcing today, the lower left-hand corner of this
chart really is what we're establishing and what we're announcing. And
in terms of implementation, the program office detail is found on the
right-hand side of this chart. But the implementation, yes, recognizes
an interagency response obligation. Interagency to us, our federal
partners, the FEMA, FBI, the Public Health Service, the Veterans
Administration are the kinds of agencies that we feel we have an
interest and an obligation to be a part of in terms of response.
And as you work down the list, as it relates to the Defense
Department's ability to respond, we find ourselves today, not
prepared. And I'll talk about that in just a little more detail. Not
prepared with the likes of the description of the missions that we may
be asked to react to. And so, you'll hear today our concept, our plan
on how that program comes together.
The more important piece on this chart, I think, really deals with the
task, train and equip our Reserve component response elements, and
that's found in the right-hand side of the chart where we talk about
shaping and focusing the Guard and Reserve training efforts and
equipping the Guard and Reserve units to respond to a WMD-like attack.
And so, you'll find that to be a significant part or our concept in
our overall interest.
One of the things we found in our study is that we need to practice
more with our interagency partners. Working with the state government,
working with the local government, and also then, the federal partners
here. And so, we say it's not just establishing a program where we go
out and train the military, it's establishing a program where we
exercise with the state responders, the local responders and the
federal government. So as we talk here about coordinating the
procedures, the office we're announcing today begins to coordinate
those activities overall and that's the detail that I'll provide here
as we continue with the briefing. So this is the program we're
standing up. This is the office that will be in existence here from
this day forward relating to overall, coordinating the consequence
management program activities.
As we talk about an overall response graphic, what we recognize on
this chart is that we possibly could have local responders and state
responders and federal responders reacting to the same incident.
Notice in the lower left-hand graphic, the arrow talks about an
incident commander. And it's our recognition, in the case of the
Defense Department, that we support a local incident commander. So our
idea is that a fire chief remains in charge and that's what you see in
the bottom part of the graphic there, and that throughout the mission,
the fire chief would remain an incident command kind of
responsibility.
And recognize that as the state response comes together, this is the
governor's authority to bring the National Guard and other state
resources to bear, that they too would have a chain of command. And as
well, the federal responders would then come in with the other task
force that are follow-on force in nature that would also have their
own separate chain of command. So our challenge is to bring together
these three response activities into a weapon of mass destruction
response.
What's this all mean? What we're saying is that a weapon of mass
destruction attack is different in the sense that the state forces
could be overwhelmed earlier than ever before and as well, we may need
to call in the federal assets. So it brings to bear, perhaps, a
reaction time that we have never before anticipated in terms of Guard
and Reserve reacting to day-to-day mission requirements.
The federal response plan that is outlined on this chart really is an
example of how we, for a local incident commander in the top left
corner of the chart, then bring the DoD resources to the scene of a
local incident. And I want to talk through this just briefly.
The state coordinating officer is the person that responders to the
governor of the various states and territories. And so beyond the
control of a local commander perhaps being overwhelmed on the scene
fairly early, we would have a state response force coming together.
And we recognize that the federal activity needs to be coordinated, in
this case, by the FEMA or the Federal Emergency Management Agency,
through the numbers of agencies and the support functions that you see
on the chart here. What we really want to do, though, is make
available DoD resources to the local incident commander. And that's
what's happening here in terms of this graphic.
So there is a defense coordinating officer in the lower left corner of
the chart that coordinates or brings to bear those defense activities
and isolates the requirements that the Defense Department may have a
requirement for. But what we really do is send the resources to the
response task force. And the next chart is going to give us a graphic
on what that looks like.
So again, we're responding with a request from a local incident
commander and the person says I need these kinds of activities and of
course, reinforcing the point that I made earlier, that we, DoD, are
not as prepared as we need to be a weapons of mass destruction
response. We have limited capabilities, in fact, and this chart shows
that from the command and control, where you'll see at the top, we
have a commander. Command and control activity exists today. And the
1st Army in Atlanta and the 5th Army in San Antonio, Texas. But what
we look at is capability shaded in green and you can see, we have
coordinating officers, emergency preparedness liaison officers that
exist today.
Lower left corner talks, then, about our current capabilities.
Explosive ordnance disposal, laboratories and the tech escort unit.
The Marines have the CBIRF model many have talked about for some time.
That represents today's DoD capability for response to WMD-like
attacks.
So what we have on the rest of the chart, then, shaded in white are
those capabilities that we need to shape. We need to focus. We need to
equip. And the Guard and Reserve units represent these areas or these
functions today. And that's our task. That's the program that we're
announcing today is to take these activities and these type support
requirements and put them together in terms of a response activity.
Challenge? This chart shows the challenge that we have about us. And I
want to talk for just a minute about the three blocks shaded in
yellow. Because Ms. Lee pointed out the activities for the fiscal year
'99 program and the shaded yellow blocks are what we'll talk about
here for just a couple minutes.
So the teams that we are talking about are rapid assessment teams and
we've already heard about at least ten teams being fielded in fiscal
year '99. The team missions, you can see, and a couple of key words
that I need to point out here. One is rapid deployment. One is
early-on assessment of a given incident. What kind of agent are we
dealing with, where's the cloud or the plume that's perhaps been used
on a given incident site and perhaps where are those in danger, where
do we need to secure, where do we evacuate from or perhaps, where do
we keep people from entering. And so, all of those missions come
together here in terms of this assessment element being a part of that
overall command and control activity. I say all of this. We still are
responding to a local incident commander's request. We, the Department
of Defense, are responding to a local incident commander's request.
And you can see some of the other activities. This chart breaks down
the team in terms of just the response like activities on the
right-hand side as it relates to the organization of those response
teams. And I'll explain just a little bit of that later.
Next chart. 
So we have the assessment elements. Then these are the two remaining
elements that we're going to stand up in fiscal year '99, are broken
down into reconnaissance and detection. You can see both the missions
for the recon and decontamination and also then the units employed. We
plan to have 68 of the recon units -- 68 of the decontamination units
and 27 of the recon units during the first year of the program.
So we're really talking about a multi-year program here. As you look
generally at some of the task activity, it's not going to clearly be
accomplished in the first year. And this chart, then, outlines our
multi-year approach to the overall concept that we're announcing today
as it relates to the commitment that was being presented earlier in
the National Press Club.
You can see here the activities, the detailed plan, the program office
that we're announcing today will accomplish the items in the top left
corner of this chart. And in terms of fielding the assessment teams
and the recon teams and the decontamination teams, it takes two years
to accomplish those activities.
Long term, we are here to say that we have a commitment to sustaining
the skills. You'll see that in our plan in terms of the detail, it
terms of the rest of the activity as it isolates task, train and equip
responders. And so our program today is perhaps the first step of a
journey that begins to use and capitalize on the Guard and Reserve
being considered for weapons of mass destruction response.
I do want to take time for questions. And I want to introduce Lt. Col.
Jay Steinmetz, who will be with us here for questions and answers.
He's the person that's actually going to head up the new program
office and so, I've asked him to simply come up and be a part of the
questions and answers.
Q: Can you tell us, because I'm sure local communities want to know,
where are these ten first teams going to be located?
A: We have outlined on this chart the ten federal emergency management
area regions. We'll put a team in each of these regions and we are
considering a list of criteria that factors in the likes of the
population centers and a number of other factors. The local military
training centers of excellence that are available. And so we've worked
--
Q:  Already FEMA sites? 
A: Yes, these are ten FEMA regions that exist today. And we will place
one of our assessment teams in each of the regions.
Q:  But where in the regions? 
A: Well, that's the model we're working through right now. We're
working the scenarios that will be finished in April of this year. So,
it'll actually be May before we identify the actual communities that
will receive these teams.
Q: I was curious how you came up with such a jaw breaking name,
Consequence Management Program Integration Office.
A: Consequence Management is a FEMA lead responsibility from a
Presidential decision directive. And of course, in a supporting role
the Department of Defense has, Consequence Management is the more
likely of the task that we will receive here for this mission. And so,
that's where the name came from. It came from a Presidential decision
directive and that's the office that will be coordinating the
activity.
Q: You talk about ten teams, but then you break down your FY program
and you've got 65 decon and 28 recon --
A: When we talk about ten teams, that structure that's new to the
force. The rest of the teams that we're organizing are found in the
Guard and Reserve today. And so as we talk about these type
capabilities, these are elements that are stationed across the Guard
and Reserve units that exist today that need some training, need some
focus on their task and need some equipment. And so what we're showing
here are both an active Guard and Reserve kind of capability
ultimately trained and equipped. Explosive ordnance would be Air
Force, Army. The laboratories, Army and Navy, for example. Tech escort
is an Army capability. But the Guard and Reserve units make up the
rest of those blocks in white. They're in our structure today, but not
trained and equipped like they need to be.
Q: The problem you have with Guard and Reserve personnel is they have
real jobs, most of them, and they do other things which might not make
them available for instant mobilization. And yet, these people, you're
talking about being able to be on the scene within hours, I would
imagine. Isn't that a complication?
A: Yes, it is. And the Guard and Reserve respond today with similar
kinds of mission, in particular the Guard where perhaps we have short
notice mission requirements. And our reaction yet today is less than
four hours as it relates to mission kinds of reactions. So I'm just
talking about response time that the Guard is currently experiencing.
Now as it relates to how quick is soon enough, the quicker the better
are what first responders tell us. And so, you're question is can we
get there in time. And the answer is our plan is to start with ten
teams and then simply test that model or validate the response concept
and develop from there.
Q:  Those rapid teams, those are full time people, right?  Or no?
A: The teams that are announced today, yes, have a full time staff, a
full time contingent and a traditional member contingent. Their 22
members are the full time spaces and there are an additional 22
members for traditional. So it would be a 44 member platoon if you
just took the model and applied it to a given mission.
Q: What would the threshold be for sending one of these teams out?
We've had a couple of incidents in the last year. We had the one in
Las Vegas just recently. I doubt that gets to your threshold because
nothing happens. Or we had the thing in Washington where there was
sort of a mysterious package that could have been a biological agent.
That doesn't ring your bells, I guess, probably.
A: They absolutely do. They ring our bells. In fact, the team that we
sent from Dugway, Utah, to Las Vegas was approved through our office.
That chain of command that I talked about on an earlier chart that had
our relationship with the Secretary of Defense, has Mr. Walker in the
approval process. And yes, we have to approve those teams responding
to a mission, in this case, the FBI lead. So it absolutely rings our
bell. And it turned out that the agent was not what was announced
initially.
Q:  But that Dugway team is a regular Army team, is it not? 
A:  Yes, that's a regular Army team as part of the tech escort unit.
Q: I assume that they would still get the first call in most of these
cases unless there was an individual case or is that not true?
A: I think in terms of the decision making in terms of who gets the
first call is where the teams are located and the response time that
simply would be applied to get there, I do believe. And so we've gone
through an analysis of just the question you're asking. How quick can
I get there? And so the regional teams are a start point for us.
Q: As I understand, you have Dugway people and on the East Coast, you
have Fort Deitrich or something. Would this be sort of decentralize it
to more places so you can get there faster?
A: The tech escort unit really exists in three locations today, so
they've already been decentralized some. What we have potentially in
the case of weapons of mass destruction attack is we just simply may
not have the forces in the right places. And so the Guard and Reserve
begin to sure up that response capability, that potential. And they're
stationed across the country today. And so it places a response
potential that's closer to the sites, that potentially that could be
attacked.
Q:  What actual evidence do you have that the threat is increasing?
A: The FBI actually has the lead on the domestic threat. And of
course, one of the things that we're preparing for is an item that
Secretary Walker talked about. And that is we may, in fact, be
attacked. And so if you look at terrorist activity worldwide, we are
simply preparing for a mission that may come, may arrive. And so we
do, obviously, listen to the FBI on a routine basis, a frequent basis,
so that we get an update on the threat assessment as the activities
occur. And so we clearly monitor the threat in terms of how much of
the threat and the activity really -- the FBI has release authority on
that kind of information.
Q: Are you saying that the FBI has concrete evidence of an increasing
threat of this type of an attack in the United States?
A: I just simply can't describe the threat in terms of the lead agency
because they have to react to that kind of question. We're saying the
likelihood is changing, that we may have an attack in the continental
United States, the likelihood. And so we're preparing for that
question, might there be one. We're preparing for perhaps a mission
that most hope never takes place.
Q: What's the additional cost once you get geared up of running this
outfit per year?
A: First year cost, as Ms. Lee pointed out, was $49 million dollars.
That's the start up, the equipment and the training. And so we
anticipate that to be kind of an annual cost as we go into the
program.
Q:  $49 million a year indefinitely? 
A: And I say that, we're developing next year's budgets right now, and
so it's obviously a program we have to defend and justify as we go
through the budget review process.
Q:  But that's an annual amount, not just a start up -- 
A:  Yes. 
Q: Let me ask you something to clear something up. These ten teams
would Army National Guard teams, right? But draw on other National
Guard units?
A: Right. And we talk about this chart. These kinds of elements, these
capabilities are found in the Guard and Reserve today, these elements.
And so if they're Guard units, they can be called by the governors and
are routinely called today.
Q:  These would be Army National Guard. 
A: Army or Air National Guard. It actually could be both because both
the Army and Air National Guard respond to the governors in the states
and territories today. And so the immediate force are National Guard.
The assessments. These elements, perhaps found in the Guard, could be
called by governors. There are Reserve capabilities here that could be
authorized for response by the President.
Q: But the ten teams that you're forming will be both Army and
National Guard.
A: Army and Air National Guard teams. Which gives us that
accessibility. That's where the governors' authority to call their
subordinate units to come to bear, which allows for a quicker
response.
Q: Back to the budget, what pot of money will this come out of as you
get rolling? Would it be out of the Secretary's emergency fund or each
service would have to kick in? Or, where is the money going to come
from?
A: Secretary of Defense Cohen has announced a commitment of multi-
year kinds of dollars to the program. And so what we're realizing in
terms of first year costs are a part of that overall commitment. And
so, this is all DoD money that he's applied to the mission.
Q:  It's OSD money we're talking about, not service money. 
A:  That's correct. 
Q:  Thank you very much. 
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