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USIS Washington File

07 December 1998

KIRIYENKO SPEAKS AT NATIONAL PRESS CLUB

(Says Russia lacks national consensus) (1110)
By Rick Marshall
USIA Staff Writer
Washington -- Sergiy Kiriyenko spoke at the National Press Club Friday
afternoon, December 4. He was warmly introduced by the U.S.-Russia
Business Council and the Eurasia Group to an audience with
considerable interest in and concern for Russia's current economic and
political conditions.
You are probably expecting me to tell you that seven years of reform
have brought about collapse, that this is the final defeat of reform,
that corruption, now, is beyond hope, and that with no place else to
turn, Russia is heading back to Socialism.
But, no, the former prime minister said, the seven years have not been
completely wasted. Still, "there have been confused moments," and
there has not been systematic reform.
Five months in office led Kiriyenko to conclude that the deepest
problem Russia faces is a fundamental lack of consensus. This point he
emphasized several times.
Looking back over the past seven years, he said, it is clear that no
one calculated the time it would take Russian society and the Russian
people to change.
"One cannot condense the time it takes for people to change their
mindsets.... We willingly yielded to illusions," he said. It is
sometimes believed that in voting for Boris Yeltsin the people had
somehow bought the whole package of economic reforms. They did agree
to the overthrow of communism, but that does not mean that they were
ever fully aware of -- or have accepted -- the price and social costs
involved, Kiriyenko told his NPC audience.
At first, the people were not discouraged, believing that the market
would not be too long in establishing itself. But, now, "the Russians
are weary of waiting," he said. "People have the defeat syndrome."
Russia cannot be compared to Eastern Europe. There, reform was part of
national liberation. For Russia, by contrast, the psychology was not
one of liberation but the collapse of an empire.
There have been problems at both macroeconomic and microeconomic
level, whose impact was not fully appreciated before, Mr. Kiriyenko
continued. Companies that should have gone bankrupt did not; seven
years later they are dragging the country down.
There has not been a single year in the past seven when a realistic
federal budget has been adopted. "It is increasingly difficult to
speak the truth."
Minister Yevgeniy Primakov's government "is fairly left wing" --
according to the Russian definition of the term, and it relies to a
considerable extent on the Duma. Yet there has been a change, he said.
Even recently there were those who believed that a return to the old
system would help. But no more. However unwillingly, the people in the
government are talking today of protecting the market and encouraging
foreign investment.
Primakov has been able to provide stability; for this he should be
given a good deal of credit, Kiriyenko said.
Still, time is running out. Nothing has happened economically; a
budget is needed this month. The Communists do not have any effective
prescription. At least, nobody is talking of printing more rubles,
Kiriyenko said. Opinion polls show a small majority of the population
would not support this policy even if were pledged to their salaries.
"Nobody wants to go back to hyperinflation."
The Communists are looking for scapegoats, the anti-Semitic remarks
attributed to General Makashov should be viewed in that light.
"There is no realistic alternative to continuing market reform in
Russia," Kiriyenko said. The problem is that Russians have lost all
trust in authority. The only approach that makes sense is to restore
that trust, form a social contract with the people in which the costs
of change are clearly explained.
There must be "open doors," Kiriyenko said of his country's economic
relations with the international community. The first of these doors
should be built around Russia's London and Paris club debts. Seventeen
billion (17,000 million) dollars is due next year, 10 percent of gross
domestic product. Russia will not be able to meet it. The second door
is accommodation with the World Bank and the International Monetary
Fund (IMF). Russia needs to have the choice of going through this door
-- even if it does not take it in the end. A third is the World Trade
Organization (WTO). The fourth is the ability of Russian companies to
have access to world markets. In space launches, for example, Russia
has been "made subject to quotas."
It is, indeed, time for Russia to sink its teeth into its economic
problems; even so, there is a need for a proper international climate,
he said.
In the question-and-answer period that followed these remarks,
Kiriyenko said that the alleged influence of the so-called oligarchs
"has been greatly exaggerated." Their controling strength over the
media and the large chunks of real estate they manage, however, he
readily conceded.
Asked the value of the U.S.-Russia Binational Commission -- or the
Gore-Chernomyrdin as it was familiarly called -- Kiriyenko said that
"it has produced positive results" and that "it should keep up its
activities."
On pipelines issues, Kiriyenko said that when he was minister of
energy he had argued that it would prove cheaper to export Caspian
Basin oil through Russia than construct the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline.
He acknowledged that "there will be a need for food and fuel aid" in
Russia this year, but said that the specifics of where and how it
would be distributed have not been worked out yet. "Russia is going to
need aid in many places."
Asked to comment on the anticipated presidential candidacies of Moscow
Mayor Yuri Luzhkov and General Alexandr Lebed, governor of
Krasnoyarsk, the former prime minister spoke only of the latter,
saying "my impression of Lebed is that he does not have a clear-cut
economic program" at this point. Lebed will adopt whatever program
will contribute to his success, Kiriyenko stated.
Kiriyenko stressed that the State must crack down on tax delinquents;
there must be no exceptions, no matter how large they are. Last
summer's experience with Gazprom showed that it is possible, he said.
But there is no question that a new tax code is needed. This should
shift the tax burden from the producer to the consumer.
The government has largely failed to carry out its part of the social
contract, Kiriyenko said. It has to show people that it can collect
taxes and use the revenue for public benefit.
He said that he harbored "a very good impression about my stay in
Washington." His country's biggest problem internationally, he said in
conclusion, is the international community's "inability to understand
Russia."




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