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Presenter: Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld and Iraqi President Jalal Talabani | Friday, September 9, 2005 |
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: Good afternoon, folks. I certainly welcome the President of Iraq, the Honorable Mr. Talabani to the
I also would want to say how pleased we are with the progress, Mr. President, in the drafting of a new constitution for your country. That is difficult work. It has been watched with great interest, and we congratulate you on that progress and on the fact that it protects the rights and the opportunities for all people in
The terrorists in that country are still there. They're still lethal. But the pressure is being put on them. The coalition forces and the Iraqi security forces now numbering something like 190,000 are aggressively attacking and capturing or killing terrorists and insurgents all across this country. I think a good example is what's taking place in the western part of this country, of that country today.
The terrorists have failed. They are being led basically by non-Iraqis, outsiders. They have tried to stop the elections that took place and they've failed. They've tried to stop the drafting of the constitution and they've failed. The referendum on the constitution takes place on October 15th and they're going to fail again. Then there will be an election the end of December electing a new Iraqi government under the new constitution, and the terrorists will fail again.
The skill of the Iraqi security forces is improving every week, and I find it encouraging that the numbers of people registered to vote in
The President of the
Mr. President, we thank you for coming. We thank you for your leadership. And we wish you success. Thank you, sir.
PRESIDENT TALABANI: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
Dear friends, we are here first to express our gratitude and thanks to the glorious American people, the President of the United States, our friends, [counselors] and for the brave American Army. We owe to those American heroes who came to liberate us from the worst kind of dictatorship. They came in a war for our liberation to end a war of genocide by Iraqi dictatorship against Iraqi people. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis buried now in mass graves were the victim of this war of annihilation launched by Saddam Hussein against the Iraqi people. Thanks to your brave Army, now Iraqi people is free. For the first time the Iraqi people are enjoying democracy, freedom, all kinds of freedom -- of expression, of parties, of journalism, of media, of everything. We have some kind of progress in economic field also, and reconstruction in many areas which is [inaudible] like Kurdistan and like south and center part of
The situation in
If you look to
But always, unfortunately, we hear only about the negative side in
Terrorism is not only the enemy of Iraqi people. It is becoming to an international enemy for all human being in the world. And all Arab countries started to suffer like us from the terrorist activities.
These terrorist activities are a danger for peace, stability, and they want to bring back the worst kind of reactionary regimes to the
We are supporting your new policy in
Let me tell you that we have other progress, achievements in fighting against terrorism. For example for the first time some tribes started to fight against terrorism in the west part of
I am here to repeat thanks to you, my dear friend.
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: Thank you.
PRESIDENT TALABANI: You helped us very much. Thanks.
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: Mr. President, thank you.
I should have added that Mr. Talabani has been fighting against the Saddam Hussein regime I suppose almost as long as it's been around and is a courageous individual in his own right.
We'll take some questions.
Q: Mr. President, I believe in an earlier appearance today you said there would be no need for
PRESIDENT TALABANI: Yes, I say is no need for huge number of American forces. But I say we need some, there will be a need for two or three small bases for frightening others -- not to interfere in our internal affairs. Not to fight.
Q: So you're not saying that within two years all
PRESIDENT TALABANI: I say that within two years all American forces can leave, but we won't ask them. We'll ask some of them to stay in small bases for reason which I expressed for you.
Q: Mr. Secretary, what do you think of that plan?
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: Well, what we've said all along is that our goal is to assist the Iraqi people in taking hold of their country and assisting them in developing security forces so that they can provide for their own security. And that we wouldn't want to discuss anything that might be discussable until after there's a new constitution and a new government in place, and that type of thing would be discussed, as the President indicates, in an orderly way thereafter.
You know, a number of the press people here have served, have been in
Q: Mr. President, as I'm sure you're aware,
PRESIDENT TALABANI: We say that we are sorry for American bloodshed, but we think that this war was the war of liberation of
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: I should add that President Talabani plans to be out at Walter Reed I believe tomorrow to meet with some of the wounded and their families.
Q: Mr. President, earlier today in an appearance in
PRESIDENT TALABANI: We have a lot of evidence, a lot of documents, a lot of captured peoples. But we don't want to publicize it. We still hope that by [inaudible] with the Syrian government we can solve this problem. Because especially we've got promises from Syrian government that through private discussion they will end this policy and they will cooperate with us.
You know
Q: Are those discussions underway now?
PRESIDENT TALABANI: Yes, discussions underway now. I have been invited by President [Basharr] to go to
Q: So clearly you're not satisfied with the lack of progress so far.
PRESIDENT TALABANI: I am not satisfied with the lack of [inaudible], but I hope it will happen. There are some hopes, some signs that there will be. For that we don't want to say everything what we have.
Q: Secretary Rumsfeld, would you agree with those who are coming to the conclusion that a shortcoming in the plan for the response to the Katrina disaster was perhaps an over-reliance on first responders who were not able to respond because of the magnitude of the disaster? And are you looking at ways that you might be able to streamline the military response in a future situation, again, when local and state authorities might be overwhelmed?
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: Our constitution provides for a federal system. The laws, the statutes of the
In this instance the natural disaster was of, as they say, biblical proportion. That means that a number of the first responders, or those who would have been first responders under our Constitution and under our laws, were in fact victims and were not able to respond. I think there is no question but that the President's indicated he intends to review how those things are arranged and what might be done.
I will say for the Department of Defense that the flow of forces that began with pre-positioning and preparation before the storm hit and before the levee broke in
One more question.
Q: Mr. President, you said you anticipate only two or three bases in
PRESIDENT TALABANI: Small groups of Americans. We want American presence not with a big number, only the presence of
SECRETARY RUMSFELD: Lest my silence indicate anything at all, which it should not -- [Laughter] -- let me simply say that the President of Iraq is free to say whatever he wishes and he has done so. And I am not President of anything and I am not free to say anything and therefore, I have not. [Laughter].
Thank you, folks.
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