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25 April 2003

Powell Lauds Greek EU Presidency for Modulating Differences Over Iraq

(April 25 interview on Greek TV NET) (1680)
The crisis in Iraq was "a difficult time" for the Greek presidency of
the European Union (EU), but it handled the difficulties "with great
skill," Secretary of State Colin Powell said in an interview with
Greek TV NET on April 25.
"There was a split within the European Union over Iraq and how to
support or not support what the coalition was doing," he noted, "and I
think that the Greek presidency, and especially my colleague Foreign
Minister Papandreou, did a good job of modulating those differences so
that it didn't result in a complete rupture."
Powell said the important thing now is to move forward to rebuild Iraq
and help the Iraqi people build a better life for themselves, and as
this happens, he believes the EU "will have an important role to play
in that reconstruction effort."
The Secretary said he is troubled by demonstrations of
anti-Americanism in Greece, but as the Greek people "see the faces of
these Iraqi citizens who are now free of the repression, free of the
terror, as they see the evidence of Saddam Hussein's cruel regime and
cruel ruling come to the front, when they see pictures of people being
pulled up out of their graves who had been murdered and butchered and
terrorized, I hope they will realize that this is a regime that the
world is glad to be rid of, and that the coalition did something that
was noble and right."
Powell expressed disappointment that progress was not achieved on the
latest plan offered by United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan to
reach a settlement in Cyprus, but added, "we believe there are
positive elements in that plan that are still there, available for the
two sides to use and to work with as they move forward."
He also said it will be very interesting to see what happens now that
Greek and Turkish Cypriots are being permitted to cross the border and
can interact more closely. "Maybe that will bring pressure to bear on
their political leaders to find a way forward," Powell said.
On the issue of Turkey's accession to the EU, Powell reaffirmed the
U.S. position that "Turkey belongs in the European Union" and
expressed the hope that "at some future time when it's taken up for
consideration again, all the factors will be positive."
Following is a transcript of the interview:
(begin transcript)
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
April 25, 2003
INTERVIEW
SECRETARY OF STATE COLIN L. POWELL ON GREEK TV NET WITH DEMITRIS
APOKIS
April 25, 2003
Washington, D.C.
(10:55 a.m. EDT)
MR. APOKIS: Mr. Secretary, Greece holds the EU presidency in a very
critical time for the international system. During the Greek
presidency of the EU, we had the war in Iraq, which caused a big
friction to U.S.-European relations. How do you characterize the role
Greece played during this critical time, its stance toward the U.S.
and its handling of the crisis in Iraq?
SECRETARY POWELL: I think it was a difficult time for the Greek
presidency, but I think the Greek presidency handled the difficulties
with great skill. There was a split within the European Union over
Iraq and how to support or not support what the coalition was doing,
and I think that the Greek presidency, and especially my colleague
Foreign Minister Papandreou, did a good job of modulating those
differences so that it didn't result in a complete rupture.
More important now, though, is as we move forward to rebuild Iraq and
help the people build a better life for themselves, and as we have
seen such a success in Iraq, the EU will have an important role to
play in that reconstruction effort. And the Foreign Minister and I are
already talking about the role for the EU to play and the role for
Greece to play.
MR. APOKIS: Recently, we had the enlargement of the European Union
with ten new members. Cyprus is one of the new members. And despite
the efforts of the UN Secretary General to facilitate a settlement
before the accession to the EU and the diplomatic assistance he
received by President Bush and you and other senior officials, Mr.
Annan's efforts failed. What is your reaction to this failure and how
do you see the future of Cyprus?
SECRETARY POWELL: We were disappointed that we were not able to
achieve progress on Secretary General Annan's plan, a third version of
his plan. But we believe there are positive elements in that plan that
are still there, available for the two sides to use and to work with
as they move forward. So even though we didn't achieve what we had
hoped to achieve, we hope that in the months ahead both sides will
review the bidding now that the accession issue of Cyprus into the EU
is dealt with.
And I must say, I'm somewhat fascinated by the opening of the transit
areas, the border areas, so that people can go back and forth. This is
an interesting development and it will be very interesting to see what
happens in the days ahead as people start to interact with one another
more closely. And maybe that will bring pressure to bear on their
political leaders to find a way forward.
MR. APOKIS: And the issue of Turkey's accession. We heard the historic
decision by the UN in Copenhagen. How do you see this issue -- what
Turkey has to do and what Europe has to do?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, Turkey knows what it has to do to meet the
conditions that were set forth. We believe that Turkey belongs in the
European Union. I don't think the European Union will ever be complete
without Turkey being a member of that union. And so we hope all the
conditions will be met and I hope at some future time when it's taken
up for consideration again, all the factors will be positive.
MR. APOKIS: Recently, Greece had a major success against domestic
terrorism with the arrest and prosecution of the 17 of November
terrorists. The trial of the members of this terrorist organization is
ongoing right now. Give us your reaction to these events and what do
you expect from the trial.
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I will let the trial go on without commenting
on it, and not to get involved in what is a judicial matter. Let me
just say that we were very pleased that after all these years,
finally, the leaders of this organization are being brought to
justice. This was a major problem that just went on and on and on with
respect to bilateral relations between Greece and the United States,
and it was a threat to Greece's own democracy. So I am glad, finally,
that this terror organization has been broken up.
MR. APOKIS: Greece will organize the 2004 Olympic Games. Are you
satisfied with the progress of the preparations for the Games, with
the U.S.-Greek cooperation on the matter, and more specifically, with
the preparations regarding the security of the Games?
SECRETARY POWELL: This will be a major challenge for the Greek
Government, but in my conversations with Foreign Minister Papandreou I
know that the Greek Government is hard at work on this. We are
providing assistance. We are providing support. We are providing any
information we can provide to make sure that we have a safe Olympics
season in Greece. I mean, the home of the Olympics. We want it to go
off without a hitch and without any trouble.
And we hope that some of the success we've been having on the war
against terrorism and the way we have terrorists on the run will also
contribute to having a much safer environment for the Olympics next
year. And I hope I will have a chance to visit during the Olympic
season.
MR. APOKIS: And finally, one question. Because of the Iraq situation,
there is a spread of anti-Americanism in Greece. At the same time, you
are very popular in Greece personally. Do you plan before the end of
the administration, of this term of the administration, to visit
Greece?
SECRETARY POWELL: Absolutely. I wish I had had the chance to visit
Greece already because I very much enjoy visiting in your wonderful
country. And you can be sure that it's on my agenda to do it as soon
as I can.
Anti-Americanism troubles me. Greece is a close friend. But I hope
that as the Greek people review what we did in Iraq, and as they see
the faces of these Iraqi citizens who are now free of the repression,
free of the terror, as they see the evidence of Saddam Hussein's cruel
regime and cruel ruling come to the front, when they see pictures of
people being pulled up out of their graves who had been murdered and
butchered and terrorized, I hope they will realize that this is a
regime that the world is glad to be rid of, and that the coalition did
something that was noble and right. And that should, in my judgment,
reverse some of this anti-American feeling.
I also believe that as the Greek people see what we are doing in the
Middle East with the assistance of the European Union presidency, with
the appointment now and soon the confirmation of Mr. Abu Mazen to be
the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority, and the European
Union will have a role to play as part of the Quartet in helping the
Palestinians and the Israelis moving forward.
MR. APOKIS: Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
SECRETARY POWELL: Let me take this final opportunity to extend to you
and to all of your viewers and all of the Greek people my best wishes
for a Happy Easter.
MR. APOKIS: Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
(end transcript)
(Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S.
Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)



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