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24 April 2003

Powell Says Embryonic Iraqi Authority Will Grow Into Full Government

(Says new Iraqi mayors, governors cannot be self-declared) (1920)
Secretary of State Colin Powell says an embryonic Iraqi Interim
Authority "will eventually grow into a full government for the people
of Iraq by the people of Iraq."
In an April 24 interview with the Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation,
Powell said future Iraqi government leaders will "emerge slowly" as
regional meetings are held throughout the country. He expressed
confidence that "we can find enough people representing the people of
Iraq that an interim authority can be formed on the way to a full
government."
Asked about the legitimacy of the self-declared mayors and governors
who have been cropping up in Iraq, the secretary said, "I don't think
we can allow individuals to go around setting up governments on their
own, somebody showing up in a city and saying: 'I'm now the mayor' or
'I'm now the governor.'" Instead, he said, authority should flow "from
the people."
The commander of the U.S. Central Command, General Tommy Franks, is
tasked with creating conditions in Iraq "under which people can
determine who their leaders will be, who their mayors and their
governors will be," Powell said, "not somebody coming in and saying:
'I decided that I'm the mayor, whether anyone likes it or not.'"
Asked about the potential influence of neighboring Iran, Powell said
"it would be very unfortunate if, in this moment of liberation, we
suddenly saw elements from Iran coming into the southern part of Iraq
to create conditions that would be very unstable." The job of the
coalition is to "turn the Iraqi nation over to the Iraq people," he
said, "and not let outsiders from the neighborhood come in and
exercise undue influence."
Asked about neighboring Syria, Powell said the Syrians have taken some
positive steps recently that he will pursue further during his
upcoming trip to Damascus.
Asked about the Middle East peace process, Powell said the road map
for peace "lays out the obligations and responsibilities of each of
the parties, and I think it can lead, if followed, to the creation of
a Palestinian state and security for its neighbor Israel." But unless
the terrorism and violence stops, he said, "it's almost impossible to
get going on any process toward peace."
Powell was asked about Prime Minister Abu Mazen's authority and the
relevance of Yasser Arafat. He noted that Arafat has missed leadership
opportunities over the years. The secretary also said that the
designation of a prime minister, who has the authority to make
transforming decisions within the Palestinian Authority, will work to
end violence and "get us moving in the right direction."
(begin transcript)
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
For Immediate Release April 24, 2003
INTERVIEW
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell
Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation with Salameh Nemaat
April 24, 2003
Washington, D.C.
(1:08 p.m. EDT) 
MR. NEMAAT: Thank you, Mr. Secretary. It's a pleasure. The Iraqi
interim authority. What's the mechanism for setting up that authority
and what's your role at the State Department?
SECRETARY POWELL: The State Department is working very closely with
the President's Special Envoy, Ambassador Khalilzad. I have Ambassador
Ryan Crocker from the State Department working with Ambassador
Khalilzad, and they're working for General Franks and they have
started to hold regional meetings. They had one in An-Nasiriya not too
long ago, and this Monday [April 28] they will be having other
meetings.
And as they go from region to region, they will be identifying leaders
who rise up from the communities that they are in, and they will also
be identifying members of the external opposition who have worked so
hard to bring about this moment of liberation for the Iraqi people.
And as these meetings take place and leaders emerge, slowly, we
believe the leadership will emerge that will create the interim Afghan
-- sorry, interim Iraqi authority. And that will become an embryonic
government that will eventually grow into a full government for the
people of Iraq by the people of Iraq.
MR. NEMAAT: What is there is no agreement on this? Is there an
authority going to be imposed even if there are groups that boycott
such meetings, such as the Shiite groups that boycotted the Nasiriya
meeting?
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I'm sure there will be some who will be not
happy with the process. In a system now that we have where people are
free to speak, there will always be some who are not happy with a
particular outcome. But I am confident that we can find enough people
representing the people of Iraq that an interim authority can be
formed on the way to a full government.
We want to reach that point where with a full government everybody can
[be] represented in one way or another, to include those who disagree
most strongly with the policies of the government that happens to be
in power at that moment.
MR. NEMAAT: We think there are groups setting up quasi-governments in
some areas, in some cities. Are you planning to dismantle these
groups?
SECRETARY POWELL: I don't think we can allow individuals to go around
setting up governments on their own, somebody showing up in a city and
saying, "I'm now the mayor," or, "I'm now the governor." I think it
has to be something that comes from the people. And so the initial
authority in the country will be General Franks. General Franks has to
be the initial authority in order to stabilize the situation, provide
security for the people, bring in humanitarian aid for the people,
recreate the ministries. General Garner is now there working on all of
these things. And I think General Franks will carefully create
conditions under which people can determine who their leaders will be,
who their mayors and their governors will be, not somebody coming in
and saying, "I decided that I'm the mayor, whether anyone likes it or
not."
MR. NEMAAT: The Iranian infiltrations into Iraq and the U.S. warning
to them, are you satisfied with the statement by the Iranian Foreign
Minister saying that they have no intention in meddling in Iraqi
affairs?
SECRETARY POWELL: I am pleased with the statement and I hope that
turns out to be the case and I hope that his statement represents all
parts of the Iranian government. I think it would be very unfortunate
if, in this moment of liberation, we suddenly saw elements from Iran
coming into the southern part of Iraq to create conditions that would
be very unstable conditions. And so we recognize that there is
movement back and forth across that border because the two peoples are
close to one another and have been historically, but we don't want to
see any nation coming in and imposing any kind of undue influence on
any part of the country. It's important for the coalition to do its
job and turn the Iraqi people over -- turn the Iraqi nation over to
the Iraqi people and not let outsiders from the neighborhood come in
and exercise undue influence.
MR. NEMAAT: The U.S. is patrolling the borders. There was also an
Iranian warning to the States not to have any incursions into the
Iranian territories.
SECRETARY POWELL: We have no plans to cause any kind of incursion or
to cross over into Iran. We have no reason to do so.
MR. NEMAAT: Now, concerning Syria, are you going there with assurances
to the Syrians that they will not be targeted next, or are you going
with an ultimatum?
SECRETARY POWELL: There is no reason for me to go either with that
kind of assurance or an ultimatum. It's not an issue. The President
has made it clear that we have issues with the Syrian government that
I'm going there to talk to them about, whether it's support for
terrorist organizations or development of weapons of mass destruction,
or what we need them to do with respect to sealing their border and
not letting former officials of the Hussein regime find a haven in
Syria. The Syrians have shown some positive signs and taken some
positive steps lately, and I will be going to talk to them about
those. I'm not going to issue ultimatum.
MR. NEMAAT:  A specific list of demands?
SECRETARY POWELL: Syria is well aware of our concerns, and what we're
going to do is discuss those concerns in a spirit of openness and
candor, and I will not hold back the strength of our feelings on these
positions. And I've met previously with the President and the Foreign
Minister on a number of occasions, and I'm sure they will not hold
back in responding. And so we will have a good, strong, candid
dialogue, and I'm looking forward to it.
MR. NEMAAT: Concerning the roadmap, the implementation of the roadmap,
you said that there should be both sides should perform and prevent
violence. Are we saying that the roadmap won't be implemented unless
the violence ceases? And if it doesn't, does it mean it's frozen?
SECRETARY POWELL: The roadmap is a way forward. The roadmap lays out
the obligations and responsibilities of each of the parties, and I
think it can lead, if followed, to the creation of a Palestinian state
and security for its neighbor, Israel. And that's what the roadmap is
about.
But let's be candid. Let's be very open and candid. Unless terrorism
and violence stops, then it's almost impossible to get going on any
process toward peace, whether it's a roadmap or some other document or
the Mitchell Plan or the Tenet Plan -- all of these previous efforts
have been frustrated by continuing resort to violence and terrorism.
And so I hope that Prime Minister Abu Mazen and Minister Dahlan, when
they are confirmed, will work hard to end the violence, end the
terrorism, and that will create conditions that will allow us to go
forward.
And everybody tries to get you into a rhetorical trap. Are you saying
nothing can happen until this happens? What we want is to put down the
roadmap, show both sides what their obligations and responsibilities
are, and have both sides start working with each other, talking to one
another, coordinating with each other, with the help of the United
States and other members of the Quartet and other members of the
international community, to help them move forward together and begin
to take those steps that will let them get going on the roadmap and
will lead to peace.
MR. NEMAAT:  You mention Abu Mazen.  Is Arafat irrelevant now?
SECRETARY POWELL: Mr. Arafat is there. Mr. Arafat still occupies a
position within the hearts and minds of the Palestinian people. And I
can't remove that and I wouldn't even try to.
But at the same time, it is well know that we do not believe that Mr.
Arafat has shown the kind of leadership that is needed to take us
through this crisis. He has missed opportunities over the years. And
so that's why we felt it was important for there to be a
transformation in the Palestinian Authority and the designation of a
Prime Minister who has authority to take those actions that we believe
are necessary to get us moving in the right direction.
MR. NEMAAT: Mr. Secretary, we appreciate this. My time is up. Thank
you very much.
SECRETARY POWELL:  A pleasure.  Thank you.
(end transcript)
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