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Washington File

24 April 2003

Transcript: Coalition Troops Want to Leave Behind a Stable Iraq, Says Powell

(Tells Arabic television network that civil administration is
"starting to produce") (2070)
Secretary of State Colin Powell told Arab television audiences April
24 that U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq do not wish to stay in the
country "one day longer" than they have to, but want to ensure that
they are leaving behind a stable and functioning country.
Powell acknowledged Iraqi demonstrations calling for the departure of
American and coalition forces from the country, but he described them
as "good news" to Al-Arabiyya television's Hisham Melhem, since they
show that, unlike in Saddam Hussein's Iraq, "people feel free to
demonstrate."
"But the same people who say 'please finish your work and go home'
want the work to be finished," said Powell. "They want the electricity
on. They want clean water. They want to make sure they have food for
their children."
"I think even those people who are demonstrating, and all Iraqis,
understand that a period of time will be required for them to create
their own government, for us to stabilize the country, to provide
humanitarian support to people, and then we will leave," he said.
Powell said the civil administration led by former U.S. general Jay
Garner is working with Iraqi policemen and institutions to reassert
authority throughout the country, following a period of civil
disturbance immediately after the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime.
"They're already starting to produce," he said. "The railroad is
starting to run again out of Umm Qasr. Slowly, power is being restored
to Baghdad and to the other cities. The water system is being
repaired. The hospitals have equipment and supplies."
The secretary also said he hoped the Arab and Muslim world would also
be reassured by the recent non-violent pilgrimage of Shi'ite Muslims
to Karbala, a practice forbidden during Saddam Hussein's rule.
"I hope people will look at that and say, 'Look at this. For the first
time in almost 25 years, the Shi'as of Iraq were able to practice
their ritual, this ... act of faithfulness, and it was the coalition
that made it happen, after 25 years of a horrible dictator who
pretended to be a good Muslim but who kept Muslims from practicing
their faith,'" said Powell.
Powell dismissed commentators who argue that Islam is not compatible
with democracy, citing Islamic-majority countries like Turkey and
Pakistan which hold elections. "Why can't it happen in Iraq, as well?"
he asked, saying a democratic and transparent Iraq can "be an example
to the region of how people can have a voice in their own political
governance at the same time they are faithful practicers of the faith
of Islam, a great faith."
Turning to the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians, Powell said
that upon the Palestinian Legislative Council's confirmation of Prime
Minister Abu Mazen's cabinet, the roadmap for peace would be
presented. He called for an end to violence between the two sides
"once and for all" and said he wanted to see "both sides, in a spirit
of cooperation, in a spirit of peace, with the earnest desire to move
forward, to start performing."
Powell also said he was looking forward to his third visit to Syria
and said he would be discussing with President Bashar Al-Assad
concerns over terrorist groups in the country, as well as the Bush
administration's view that the "introduction of additional weapons of
mass destruction in the region is not good."
Following is a transcript of Secretary Powell on Al-Arabiyya
television:
(begin transcript)
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
INTERVIEW
Secretary of State Colin L. Powell
On Al-Arabiyya with Hisham Melhem
April 24, 2003
Washington, D.C.
(1:00 p.m. EDT) 
MR. MELHEM: Sir, many developments occurred on the ground in Iraq that
were surprising. We've seen shocking incidents -- looting, ransacking
-- and then we've seen the demonstrations, people asserting their
authority in Baghdad, in Kut and other places. What went wrong? I
mean, obviously, the United States was surprised and maybe shocked
because of these developments.
SECRETARY POWELL: No, we were not surprised or shocked. We always knew
that once you took this regime down and you broke the authority of the
regime, there would be a period of chaos and instability. That's what
one should expect, and we did expect it. But slowly but surely, we are
reasserting authority throughout the country, not only with coalition
troops but with Iraqi policemen, with Iraqi institutions.
And now General Garner is in the country, and his work for the next
several weeks will be to start putting back together the Iraqi
institutions of government -- the Agriculture Ministry, the Trade
Ministry, make sure the oil fields are secure. They're already
starting to produce. The railroad is starting to run again out of Um
Qasr. Slowly, power is being restored to Baghdad and to the other
cities. The water system is being repaired. The hospitals have
equipment and supplies.
So stability is being brought to the country, and what we are trying
to do now is, as quickly as we can, give the country to the Iraqi
people. That has always been our goal. We don't want to stay there any
longer than we have to.
And so I hope people will understand this period of slight
disturbance. It will all settle down. But look what happened just over
the last couple of days. The pilgrimages took place and it was
remarkable to see 2 million people. So I hope the people who --
MR. MELHEM:  And no violence.  No violence.
SECRETARY POWELL: No violence. That's what's amazing. No violence. And
so I hope people will look at that and say, "Look at this. For the
first time in almost 25 years, the Shi'as of Iraq were able to
practice their ritual, this faithful -- act of faithfulness, and it
was the coalition that made it happen, after 25 years of a horrible
dictator who pretended to be a good Muslim but who kept Muslims from
practicing their faith." I hope this is reassuring to the Arab world,
the Muslim world.
MR. MELHEM: Sir, you spoke about the pilgrimage to Karbala. Many
people there were raising signs, asking for the Americans to withdraw
quickly. In fact, the leader of one of the groups there, Abdul Aziz al
Akim, who was here in August, if you remember, when he met with your
Under Secretary Marc Grossman and other American officials, he's
calling for a quick American withdrawal.
How are you going to reconcile the demands of putting together an
interim Iraqi government with these increasing calls for American -- a
quick withdrawal? Because if you stay too long, you run the risk of
attacks. If you quit -- if you leave quickly, you run the risk of
chaos behind you, and that's the last thing you want.
SECRETARY POWELL: Well, the good news is people feel free to
demonstrate and put up signs saying, "Americans, go home." They do it
to me out here in front of the State Department all the time. So why
should not the Iraqi people, who are free, also demonstrate and
protest?
We don't want to stay one day longer than we have to. But the same
people who say please finish your work and go home want the work to be
finished. They want the electricity on. They want clean water. They
want to make sure they have food for their children. They want to make
sure that what we are leaving behind is a stable country that will be
a country where people can continue to demonstrate for their lawful
rights.
So there is no conflict between these two, and I think even those
people who are demonstrating, and all Iraqis understand that a period
of time will be required for them to create their own government, for
us to stabilize the country, to provide humanitarian support to
people, and then we will leave.
America does not go around the world to create colonies or new 51st
states of the United States. We go to help, to bring peace, to bring
order, and then we will go home.
MR. MELHEM: If the Iraqis decide on a free election, let's say six
months from now, a year from now, two years from now, that they want
an Islamic form of government, would you, as a democrat, small "d",
live with it?
SECRETARY POWELL: Why cannot an Islamic form of government that has as
its basis the faith of Islam not also be democratic? Turkey --
MR. MELHEM: Well, you can -- you're talking about Christian Democrats
--
SECRETARY POWELL:  No, no, I'm talking about democratic.
MR. MELHEM:  Right.
SECRETARY POWELL: There are some people who say, well, because you're
practicing Islam you can't allow people to choose how they will be
governed politically. I don't think Islam presents that. There are
Islamic countries that are having elections. Pakistan, Turkey. It's
happening. Why can't it happen in Iraq, as well? It can happen. And I
hope it will be an example to the region of how people can have a
voice in their own political governance at the same time they are
faithful practicers of the faith of Islam, a great faith.
MR. MELHEM: Sir, I'm being given warning, two-minute warning, as you
well know. Let me move you to the Arab-Israeli arena. The roadmap,
you're going to present it soon. You have a Prime Minister, a
Palestinian Prime Minister. After you receive the initial response
from the Israelis and Palestinians, what comes next procedurally and
politically? A Madrid conference? A timetable that you would set for
Israeli withdrawal? Palestinian security measures? What comes next?
SECRETARY POWELL: All of those things are contained within the
roadmap. What we really need at the beginning of this process is
performance. I am very pleased that an arrangement was arrived at
yesterday so that Abu Mazen can become the Prime Minister, and I hope
the PLC will act quickly on his vote of confidence so we can get
going.
As soon as he is confirmed and is in office, the roadmap will go down.
I don't want to spend a great deal of time arguing about the details
of the roadmap. I want to see both sides, in a spirit of cooperation,
in a spirit of peace, with the earnest desire to move forward, to
start performing. And that means that we must end the violence, once
and for all, although today we had another act of violence in Israel,
and I regret that. But we must end the violence. And I have been in
contact with Israeli authorities and I know that they are ready and
anxious to participate in moving forward with Mr. Abu Mazen.
MR. MELHEM: One last question. I have one minute. On Syria, you said
recently that the Syrian response to your warnings, or demarches, was
not enough, or not complete. What do you expect by way of concrete
measures from Syrians? And you're going to see President Assad, I
hear, early May?
SECRETARY POWELL: Yes, we are working on the schedule now. I have
heard from my colleague, the Foreign Minister of Syria, that is he
anxious for me to come, and I am looking forward to my third visit to
Syria.
There is no secret about what we're asking for. We have always said to
Syria that they should stop supporting any groups that are housed or
hosted in Syria that support terrorism, that doesn't contribute to a
peaceful solution to the conflicts in the region.
We also believe that introduction of additional weapons of mass
destruction in the region is not good, and we are especially concerned
that during Operation Iraqi Freedom, the liberation of Iraq, there was
too much movement across the border with respect to Fedayeen going
south and perhaps Iraqi officials, who should be detained for justice
administered by the Iraqi people, trying to get into Iraq.
We have seen some progress. The President has noted that the Syrians
have been taking some action that we are pleased about, but there are
still these fundamental issues of terrorism, weapons of mass
destruction, that I need to discuss with the Syrian President.
MR. MELHEM:  Secretary Powell, thanks a lot.  Really appreciate it.
SECRETARY POWELL:  Always a pleasure.
MR. MELHEM:  Thank you.
(end transcript)
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