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Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)

USIS Washington File

17 February 1998

[EXCERPTS] TRANSCRIPT: WHITE HOUSE DAILY BRIEFING, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 17

White House Press Secretary Mike McCurry briefed.
Following is the White House transcript:
(begin transcript)
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
February 17, 1998
PRESS BRIEFING
BY MIKE MCCURRY
The Briefing Room
1:53 P.M. EST
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Q:  How's he feeling?
MCCURRY: The President? You saw him earlier today. He's very
concentrated on the work that we're doing in the Gulf region and he's
feeling very good about where we are and --
Q: Well, he doesn't object if the Secretary General goes to Baghdad?
MCCURRY: He has concern that we all in the international community
deliver an unambiguous message to Saddam Hussein that the time has
come for unfettered access by the United Nations to those sites that
can help us understand better what capacity Saddam Hussein has when it
comes to weapons of mass destruction. And I believe, and the United
States government believes, that that message in a variety of ways has
been delivered in unambiguous fashion to Saddam Hussein.
Q: What is your sense of what can be accomplished now by an Annan trip
to Baghdad?
MCCURRY: One additional moment in which the very clear resolve of the
international community can be expressed in an unambiguous way to
Saddam Hussein, so that hopefully he gets the message.
Q:  Are you fighting other members?
Q: -- Secretary General could go in and not express unambiguous
message?
MCCURRY: I think that it's very clear that he will go and express that
message in an unambiguous fashion. And what we are interested in
achieving, once again, is free and unfettered access to those sites,
especially those sites that have been declared off limits by the
government of Iraq; and a fuller understanding of what they will do to
uphold the integrity of an effort in Iraq, conducted by the United
Nations that's been very successful in helping the world learn more
about his capacity when it comes to biological and chemical weapons.
Q:  Would you characterize Annan's mission as an ultimatum?
Q:  Could you clarify what you just said, Mike?
Q: Is the formulation of UNSCOM-plus or UNSCOM-wide acceptable to this
administration?
MCCURRY: There is a variety of formulae being talked about in New York
right now by permanent members of the Security Council.
Q:  Mike, is it really worth putting lives in harm's way over this?
MCCURRY: Yes, for exactly the reasons the Commander-in-Chief described
earlier today.
Q: Mike, do you have any comment on the Russian-Chinese statement
against the use of force?
MCCURRY:  Say again?
Q: Russian and China had a joint statement today, according to
Reuters, against the use of force.
MCCURRY: I have not seen that statement, but it sounds like it's
similar to statements both governments have made independently. And
we, too, believe that force should not be the necessary resolution
here because there is an alternative. The alternative is for Saddam
Hussein to meet his international obligations so there can be a
peaceful solution, even if it's one brought about by increased
diplomatic pressure on Saddam Hussein. That is our preference to be
sure, because no one prefers a military option, as you heard the
President say earlier.
Q: Are we having trouble with the other members of the Security
Council in that mission? I mean, do they want to give him some wriggle
room?
MCCURRY: There's not any daylight among members of the Security
Council when it comes to insisting upon full compliance with Security
Council resolutions with regard to inspections.
Q:  So then he's on his way?
MCCURRY: That remains to be seen. If my understanding is correct, the
Secretary General meets with the permanent representatives of the
permanent members of the Security Council at 4:00 p.m., or sometime
later today, in any event.
Q: If there's no daylight, then what's the apprehension about Kofi
Annan going? How could the message be unambiguous --
MCCURRY: Making it absolutely certain what message he carries and
whether or not he will be in a position to gain any greater access to
sites that have been shut off to the United Nations is the key
question. And a lot of that has to be discussed in further detail by
the Security Council.
Q:  Is that something you want to know in advance, Mike?
Q: What would be the formula, Mike, for evaluating the proposal before
the -- that are being discussed by the U.N. Security Council? And
would the U.S. accept U.N. team of diplomats accompanying the UNSCOM?
MCCURRY: The criteria is that that I just spelled out for you. It
would be getting unfettered access to sites, especially those sites
around the country that have been declared off limits by the
government of Iraq, and knowing that the integrity of the U.N. Special
Commission's work was being upheld and acknowledged by Saddam Hussein.
Q: Is there any reason why this team of -- why an accompanying team of
diplomats would make that unacceptable?
MCCURRY: There are numerous, numerous modalities and details that
might help accomplish that work and they are under discussion at the
United Nations now.
Q: This standoff is now extended for several months, at least since
the autumn. Why not set a deadline? Why not say, in two weeks open
access or --
MCCURRY: It's not about artificial deadlines. It's about assuring that
those things the United States and the world community are insisting
upon get achieved. And the President has addressed exactly the way in
which we're going about doing that today.
Q: The President used the word "soon" in talking about potential for
military action. That has a meaning.
MCCURRY:  "Soon," it means soon.
Q: Mike, might military action take place without Congress in town or
without any congressional resolutions --
MCCURRY: We've consulted very broadly with Congress. Congress in 1991
passed federal law that authorizes the use of force in the Persian
Gulf, and we've long acknowledged, and members of Congress have
acknowledged, that that provides necessary statutory authority for the
President as Commander-in-Chief to take action. And under United
Nations Security Council Resolution 687, we've been given -- all
member nations have been given authority by the world community to act
in furtherance of relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions.
Q: Mike, there's a report that the Saudis have put additional
restrictions on the use of aircraft, U.S. aircraft based there. What
do you know about that?
MCCURRY: Without going into any detail, I will say that once again
that work that we've been doing in the Gulf region and elsewhere leads
the President to be confident that if he needs to take military
action, that there will be support and assistance necessary for him to
have confidence that we can successfully achieve the missions that he
defines.
Q:  Have they asked that those aircraft remain there to defend them?
MCCURRY: I'm not going to get into our private, diplomatic
deliberations.
Q: You've been talking about making the case to the American people,
and the town hall meeting tomorrow is about that. Is it also the town
hall meeting and the decision to let CNN cover it, is that also about
making the case to the international public? Do you feel that that --
MCCURRY:  Is this a self-interested question from CNN?
Q:  I mean it as a video diplomacy question.
MCCURRY: No, I think that we've worked with, as we have on previous
occasions and other networks, worked with one network to figure out
how we could get as large an audience, international and domestic, for
this particular event. And there will be others covering it and I
imagine other news organizations will cover the event in addition to
those that are carrying it.
Q: Well, while we're on that, I mean, it is restricted for a CNN live
broadcast. Why was that decision made, since you want as much --
MCCURRY: That's a decision that I'm told by lawyers, lawyers at CNN
feel very strongly about, and the details of that you'd have to go to
them and discuss.
Q:  Well, no, that's -- you made with CNN.
MCCURRY: We had asked that it be transmitted for live simultaneous
coverage so it would be available to everyone, but apparently that's
something that CNN feels they can't do. But they've assured us that
they're making it available in the fashion that people who want to
cover the event will have plenty of access to the event so that it can
be covered.
Q: Wait a second. No, no, no, I'm asking -- this is part of your
public --
Q:  But why did you go along with it?
MCCURRY: We go along with different arrangements when we get help from
news organizations that help us in carrying a conversation that we're
interested in. We've done this with ABC, we've done it with CBS, we've
done it with others from time to time.
Q: You have given town meetings that are available for everybody to
carry many, many times in the past.
MCCURRY: Many, on exactly the same kind of circumstances I am told
that CNN is making this available to all of you.
Q:  Is this a CNN event or is this a White House event?
MCCURRY: It's a town hall that we approached CNN and asked of their
assistance in setting up, and they were gracious enough to work with
us.
Q: Help me with this. The White House approached CNN and said, would
you cover this, and CNN's response was, yes, if we have it exclusive?
Is that --
MCCURRY: No. They helped -- they're setting it up, providing their
anchors, helping get the audience together, doing a lot of other
things.
Q:  Who's paying for all the officials to fly out there?
MCCURRY: They're traveling in whatever capacity they travel as public
officials.
Q: Yes, but why -- it just doesn't make any sense to me why the
administration would restrict access.
MCCURRY: They will do other -- they will do other discussions. We're
not restricting access. They are making it available and they are
making it available on their terms. Contractually, they can make it
available, and my understanding is that you all are going to have
plenty of access to it so you can cover it, too. If you've got some
specific problem, let me know and I'll see if I can work it out.
Anything else?
Q: It's strange, Mike. It's not the same thing as when -- you
mentioned Peter Jennings and the Children's Hour or something else --
MCCURRY: Or the Straight Talk with drugs that we did where ABC, I
think, had exactly the same two-minute restrictions on the --
Q: -- when the President did an interview with us on cancer. This is
an international crisis that has to do -- you're talking about the
American people.
MCCURRY: Look, maybe we could have approached others or done it
through a pool. We didn't. This is the way we're putting it together.
We are appreciative of CNN for helping. Next time around, we'll ask
ABC or CBS or someone else who's got those same kind of resources.
Q: Mike, a few questions on Iraq. First of all, the President today
changed his stated goal for an attack on Iraq, to diminish rather than
to deny. How has that changed? How has that policy changed and why has
it changed?
MCCURRY: I think, as the President has watched the diplomatic
discussion wind down because a diplomatic solution has not presented
itself, the precision with which he is addressing the possible use of
military force has increased. And I think that he had a very precise
way in which he talked about the capacity we have; it was based in
part by the kind of briefings that he had today and that we've been
getting from military planners; when we understand better what
military capacity can bring to bear. And I think the President feels
it's important to be as precise as possible in articulating what goals
and objectives and planned military force would be.
Q: If I could follow up to that. So when the President made the State
of the Union address he was not fully apprised of what the military
could accomplish?
MCCURRY: I think he was both talking about the goals and objectives of
our diplomacy, talking about what we would like to try to achieve as
we work with others in the world community, and now as we're getting
more specific about contemplating a possible use of force he's being
very precise and sending as clear a message as he can about what the
purpose of military action might be.
Q: What was the President told in his briefing today? What did he
learn?
MCCURRY: He learned an awful lot. He asked a lot of probing questions;
he got a very good report on the status of forces deployed and the
projection of our force posture in the region. And he and the Vice
President both had some very particular probing questions that they
asked of their senior military commanders.
Q:  What didn't they know?
Q:  -- make any decisions about force --
MCCURRY: I'm not going to substantively -- I'm not going to get into
the nature of the briefing.
Q: But there were major questions about the deployment of forces that
they were not --
MCCURRY: There was a lot of discussion about scenarios and different
outcomes and how one thinks ahead so that once you put a right foot
down you know where the left foot is going.
Q:  Do you have an end game yet?
MCCURRY: We've got a very good, clear idea on how things might unfold
under multiple levels of scenarios.
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Q: When was the last time the President received the kind of full
national security briefing on Iraq that he got today with all of the
players --
MCCURRY:  Last week.
Q:  Last week?
MCCURRY: Yes. I mean, it's been virtually daily, but I think having --
to be in the Pentagon? Well, certainly with General Shelton, General
Zinni, Vice Chairman Ralston, he's had within the last week at least
one occasion to meet with them and get a detailed briefing and this
was the latest in a series of those briefings.
Q: You mentioned this morning that he was going to use other
opportunities to talk about this. What else is planned?
MCCURRY: Well, I mean, this going to be a subject that will be very
much a part of the President's focus in the days ahead and he will
likely and see and take other opportunities to address the matter. I'm
not going to speculate at this point. Nothing is scheduled at this
point. I'm not going to rule out the prospect of addressing the nation
in a more formal way from the Oval Office. All of those things are
conceivable, but nothing planned at this point.
Q: Why was a decision made not to do today's speech in an evening
address if you're trying to reach the people and educate them as to
the --
MCCURRY: Maybe the President thought the message he was conveying
today, both to the American people and globally, was sufficiently
accomplished at this setting.
Q: Mike, the President said in his address today that one of the
purposes for all of this was to protect Saddam's neighbors from attack
from Iraq. But given the fact that today Bahrain and Qatar have joined
Saudi Arabia opting out, doesn't that undermine that argument?
MCCURRY: Well, I'm not sure that we have made the same conclusion
about the statements by the government of Bahrain that you have. We've
had high-level contact, including the highest-level discussion with
them over the weekend and we have not jumped to the conclusion that
you have jumped to.
Q:  Bahrain supports military action, or does not?
MCCURRY: The President talked to Amir Khalifa over the weekend and
we've just had the Secretary of State there. And again, I will say, as
a general proposition, we are confident in that region that if we get
to the point where diplomacy is exhausted and we have to use military
action to accomplish our objectives, we're confident we'll have strong
support in the region, and assistance in the region to accomplish the
mission.
Q:  You're going to have basing in Bahrain?
MCCURRY: I didn't say that. I said something that was a little more
elliptical than that -- (laughter) -- that's based on conversations
we've had at the highest levels.
Q:  You're going to have basing in Saudi Arabia?
MCCURRY: I'm not going to talk about individual governments.
Individual governments can address those questions to your
satisfaction, I'm sure.
Q: What other leaders did the President talk to about Iraq over the
weekend?
MCCURRY: He talked to -- obviously, we talked to President Soeharto
about the Asian economic issues. Late Friday night he talked to the
Prime Minister of Denmark, the Amir of Kuwait, the Amir of Bahrain,
the Prime Minister of Belgium, Chancellor of Austria, the Prime
Minister of New Zealand, the King of Morocco, and the Prime Minister
of the United Kingdom.
Q: Mike, would you characterize Kofi Annan's mission as the delivery
of an ultimatum?
MCCURRY: I would say that his mission will be designed to enforce the
judgment and will of the international community as expressed in
relevant Security Council resolutions that Saddam Hussein is
presumably familiar with.
Q:  Not to open negotiations?
MCCURRY:  I've addressed that in a number of different ways already.
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Q: Mike, the strongest backing for military action has come from Great
Britain, and yet Robin Cook was one of the people who actually was
pushing for Kofi Annan to actually go to Baghdad. Are the British
getting cold feet, or are they trying to cover their bases for the --
MCCURRY: Again, it's not who is pro and con on the Secretary General
being engaged in diplomacy, it's to make sure the message is the right
one. And the Secretary General is working very carefully with other
members of the Security Council, including the United Kingdom,
including the United States, to assure that the message is unambiguous
and exactly along the lines that I've just described to you.
Q: Mike, Sandy Berger talked about Saddam Hussein as an insidious
dictator, and the President today talked about him as a tyrant. Should
the American people conclude that he is rational and sane enough to be
negotiated with?
MCCURRY: I think the American people, given the experience we've had
over time watching his behavior, seeing his conduct, seeing the lies
and the manipulations, are in very good position to judge the nature
of that regime and that leader.
Q:  Is he rational and sane?
MCCURRY: That's a very good question and the answer -- we may learn
more to the answer as we see how he responds in coming days to what is
clearly going to be a very unambiguous message delivered.
Q:  What is the President -- with that?
MCCURRY: We have a variety of ways of assessing that and I'm not going
to share that.
Q: Did the President make any decisions today about force deployment?
MCCURRY: Most of the decisions have been made and were entrain. This
is more by nature of receiving report on the status of forces deployed
and the status of things that have been newly deployed in the region.
Q:  Are there additional forces being sent?
MCCURRY: There have been a number that have been sent and they've been
talked about at the Pentagon and they've given a pretty good status
update, I think, over there.
Q:  Anything new today?
MCCURRY:  I don't think they talked --
COLONEL CROWLEY: They signed the deployment bill last night on the --
previously on the Army troops.
MCCURRY: On the Army troops going to Kuwait to Camp Doha, right? Yes,
that was the previous deployment that had been talked about both here
and at the Pentagon. They did the deployment orders yesterday for
that.
Q:  Did they discuss targeting priorities with the President today?
MCCURRY: They discussed many different aspects of the military option
if we need to pursue it.
Q:  Would targeting priorities have been one of those aspects?
MCCURRY:  Duh.
Q:  That's a yes?
MCCURRY:  I'm not commenting further.
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