(2) For the US, Iranian nuclear program is just an excuse, Larijani
IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency
New Delhi, Aug 9, IRNA
Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council Ali Larijani said in an interview to be published in New Delhi-based newspaper Hindu, on Saturday that the EU expected Iran to stop nuclear program under the agreement of 'objective guarantees' Iran signed with International Atomic Energy Agency.
In response to a question about the EU package, Larijani said, "I don't wish to pass judgment because the package does not have any potency. They should also have confidence-building.
"In Iran at the moment, nobody has trust in them. We do believe that through negotiation, we should come to a conclusion. But if they prepare the ground for the negotiation by kicking out the package, they destroy everything. From our side, with Mr. Solana, we took some steps to create an atmosphere for further mutual cooperation.
"But then they fell out of favor. I think they should also create a genuine atmosphere. I don't see a positive [trend] for the future.
Asked by the reporter if Iran can take the initiative and propose a counter-package, Larijani responded, "It is very important to prepare the ground. In an atmosphere where there is no trust on either side, how can the package work? When they talk with the logic of force, it doesn't have any meaning for us.
"When we sit at the table together, we should have an agreement over some paradigm. Then we can resolve the issue through negotiation.
"This paradigm must address all essential issues in the talks. If one side wants to talk with a stick, there can be no common paradigm.
"One of the questions the Americans raise is the document you showed the IAEA on the casting of uranium in hemispheric shapes. They say the document, given by the A.Q. Khan network, has military implications."
Asked by the reporter about his explanation of that document, Larijani responded, "If they say that about this document, scientists will laugh at them. It is only two pages. I talked to ElBaradei about that.
"They mean from these two pages someone can manufacture an atomic bomb? If a person can build a bomb from these two pages, I will give him the equivalent of his weight in gold!"
Interrupting, the interviewer pointed out, "The IAEA refers to it as a 15-page document..."
Larijani added, "[Overall, but we have differences over only two pages [of the document. The problem is only over two pages.
"Iran should publish this document. If they continue to make unfair charges, we will do that. This is not the first time they are doing this. Once they announced that we were manufacturing bombs at a military base. We showed IAEA inspectors that center. Normally other countries don't do that because in military centers they have their own regulations. But they couldn't find anything there. ElBaradei contacted me later and said, `I request you to let them inspect it once again.' And in spite of all the difficulties, we acceded to this request. We have many stories like this. More than 2,000 man-days of inspections have taken place in Iran and the IAEA has said there is no evidence of any diversion. They add that they cannot give final views on whether there is any undeclared nuclear activity but Iran is not the only one in this situation. Forty six countries, including 13 European countries, are in a similar situation. But they didn't create any hurdle for their nuclear energy activities. Their nuclear programs continue and there are no restrictions by the Agency over them. What we are saying is 'you are raising some issues that are not logical, you should stop'. I would like to state frankly that the nuclear issue of Iran is only an excuse. If this issue is resolved, they will create another one.
Asked by the interviewer, "Was the Indian stand on the Iran issue in the governing board of the IAEA a setback to bilateral relations? Do you understand why it was done or were you disappointed?" Larijani replied, "We are not disappointed as far as our bilateral relations with India are concerned. This type of stand, before it harms to us, will harm the reputation of the country [involved] because it shows the political capacity of the country for resolving problems.
The interviewer then drew Larijani's attention to apprehensions that have been expressed in India and whether this will complicate the five-billion-dollar LNG contract between Iran and India, Larijani replied, "No, because we are not looking at international issues like a child!
"Looking at strategic relations in the region is very important for us. Maybe a country that has friendly relations with us will not use its reputation and capacity in a right way. It doesn't mean we should also come up with an illogical reaction from our side.
Posing one final question, the interviewer asked, "Do the events in Lebanon have an impact on your thinking on nuclear issues?" Larijani responded, "It has no logical relation. [What we see in Lebanon] is a very harsh reaction by the Americans and this is of course their own mistake. The Americans have not understood the problems of the region.
"When they invaded Iraq, from the beginning we were opposed to this.
"We faced a lot of harm from the Saddam regime, more than others.
But we knew what kind of situation in the region would be created by the invasion by American troops. They killed a large number of Iraqis.
Now we can see the situation there.
"In Lebanon they face a similar situation. In their plan for the Middle East, they say they want to develop democracy. After that they saw that through this democracy, Hamas was born in Palestine. In some of the countries that have close relations with the US, if democracy is created the head of the state will be removed. So they wound up this plan and put it aside. Now Madam Rice has announced they are seeking a 'New Middle East'. This is the theory of Shimon Peres. He says, 'forget democracy, you should put pressure on countries of the region to have economic relations with Israel. And you should limit three parts: Iran, Syria, and Hizbollah'. This is the New Middle East of Madam Rice! Now my question is: Is this coming true? The entire reputation of the US has been put behind Israel. It has given Israel new weapons. What happened? Hizbollah has resisted. King Abdullah of Jordan has mentioned that by this action, you have made a hero of the Hizbollah leader. Also the ideology of Hizbollah has spread to other countries. They created this situation by their own hand. The way the US and Britain think is like 50 years ago. They believe that by military force they can do everything."
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