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Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)

NON PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, 06/23/1993, Question and Answer

Basis Date:
19940315
Chairperson:
J. Exon
Committee:
Senate Armed Services
Docfile Number:
Q93AP365
Hearing Date:
19930623
DOE Lead Office:
IS SUB
Committee:
Nuclear Deterrence, Arms Control and Defense Intelligence
Hearing Subject:
NON PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
Witness Name:
J. Keliher
Hearing Text:

                 Question from Senator J. James Exon
 Consolidation of Activities Under the Office of Intelligence National
 Security
 Question 1:    Dr. Keliher, you have been recently appointed to head a
                new organization at the Department of Energy, the Office
                of Intelligence and National Security. Creation of this
                new office consolidates the Offices of Security
                Investigations, Security Evaluations, Intelligence and
                Arms Control.  Last year this Committee and the House
                Armed Services Committee had concerns about the apparent
                overlap of the activities of these then independent
                organizations; this consolidation effort should move
                toward streamlining some of these activities. What do
                you see as the problems confronting your new
                organization and how will you address these issues?
 Answer:        The consolidation of the Office of Intelligence,
                the Office of Arms Control and Nonproliferation, the
                Office of Security Affairs, and the Office of Emergency
                Planning and Operations under the Office of Intelligence
                and National Security will allow us to eliminate any
                overlap in activities and reduce infrastructure by
                placing these formerly stand alone elements under a
                single management which can then structure each activity
                for a specific role. The primary problem confronting the
                new organization will be the amount of time that will be
                required to properly structure the organization for
                efficiency, effectiveness, and to insure that there is
                no overlap in activities. The reorganization is being
                addressed in two phases, the first of which was the
                organization of the Office of Intelligence and National
                Security. The second phase now starting is the review
                and appropriate redirection, as required, of roles,
                missions, and resources to create a more effective
                entity. We believe that the combination of the previous
                offices into the new IS structure will prove to be a
                more productive and efficient organization.
                        Question from Senator J. James Exon
 Coordination of Work for Others
 Question 2:    Dr. Keliher, the Department of Energy does not currently
                have a good understanding of all the work that the
                various laboratories do in this area when that work is
                performed at the request of other agencies and paid for
                by the requesting agency. How will you go about ensuring
                that you have a good understanding and ability to track
                all of the work at the laboratories?
 Answer:        The Office of Intelligence and National Security (IS) is
                engaged in a two step process to insure that duplication
                and/or overlap at the national laboratories is
                minimized. The first step is the consolidation of all
                research and development (R&D) for IS under the Office
                of Research and Development (IS-20). The second step is
                the technical review by IS-20 of all R&D work for others
                (WFO) to insure that the WFO is not duplicative of
                existing IS activity or of other WFO at the
                laboratories. This two step procedure is currently being
                reviewed by IS-20 to determine the best administrative
                process to accomplish these objectives. A similar
                approach is in place in the Office of Intelligence and
                will be implemented as required in the other offices of
                IS.
                        Question from Senator J. James Exon
 Coordination with NEST
 Question 3:    Dr. Alessi, do you in your arms control work,
                particularly your research and development, work with
                the Office of Defense Programs emergency responders? Do
                you coordinate with or support the Nuclear Emergency
                Support Team (NEST)?
 Answer:        The research and development program which supports the
                DOE Office of Intelligence and National Security (IS)
                does not directly support or fund the Nuclear Emergency
                Search Team or other operational DOE emergency response
                assets. However, there is a technical synergism between
                the programs because they share a common technical base.
                In an attempt to coordinate programmatic decision-making
                between the Verification and Control Technology (VC&T)
                program and the Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary
                for Military Applications, we have solicited their
                participation at the semiannual Radiation Detection
                Panel meetings.  Also, staff from the IS Office of
                Research and Development program are on the distribution
                of the NEST newsletter and participate as observers in
                the Search and Diagnostic Working group.
                       Question from Senator J. James Exon
 Coordination with the Office of Safeguards and Security
 Question 4:    Dr. Alessi, the office which you head, as well as the
                Office of Safeguards and Security, conduct research and
                development. Since some of the goals are the same
                detection of concealed special nuclear materials --
                how do you coordinate with that office and do you
                collaborate on research and development projects? Do you
                have any examples of a joint effort?
 Answer:        Over the past two years, the Security Affairs R&D
                organization (SA-134) has participated in the Arms
                Control and Nonproliferation Detection Technology
                Radiation Detection Panel which serves as an
                interlaboratory coordinating and review group for
                current and future technology development of nuclear
                sensors for treaty verification and proliferation
                detection. These semiannual meetings have been used to
                identify common requirements and to avoid project
                redundancy. The DOE Office of Intelligence R&D
                program has also been attending these meetings.
                The Office of Arms Control and Nonproliferation
                participates in annual meetings and symposia supported
                by Safeguards and Security such as the "Physical
                Protection Meeting" (October 1992), held in Albuquerque,
                and the "34th Annual Meeting of the Institute of
                Nuclear Materials and Management" (July 1993), held in
                Phoenix.
                The Office of Arms Control and Nonproliferation surveys
                Safeguards and Security domestic measurement,
                accountability, and physical protection systems and
                devices utilized throughout DOE materials and weapons
                dismantlement plants. These activities are helpful to
                determine their applicability to arms control and to
                agreements such as the HEU Purchase Agreement and the
                Cooperative Threat Reduction (formerly SSD) Act.
                Joint efforts between the Office of Arms Control and
                Nonproliferation and the Office of Safeguards and
                Security include the development of a modular micro
                multichannel analyzer (MMMCA).  The same basic circuit
                will be used by both organizations, but the circuit
                applications and interfaces will be different. Another
                example is the high level neutron coincidence counter.
                The vulnerabilities of the Active Well Coincidence
                Counter (AWCC) were assessed by BNL, LANL and ORNL under
                the Office of-Arms Control and Nonproliferation (AN)
                oversight. This counter is under consideration for use
                to verify dismantlement of nuclear weapons.  The
                resulting uranium is earmarked for purchase by the U.S.
                from the former Soviet Union.
                Under a reorganization plan for the Office of
                Intelligence and National Security (IS), all R&D for IS
                will be managed by the Office of Research and
                Development (IS-20) thereby minimizing any overlap which
                might occur in separate offices.
                       QUESTION FROM SENATOR J. JAMES EXON
 Question 5:    Dr. Keliher, one of the research areas that the office
                of Nuclear Safeguards and Security has been working on
                is in the area of computer security. Because this is a
                government concern across the government, how is this
                effort coordinated government wide?  Is there an
                interagency working group that is focused on computer
                security?
 Answer:        The primary interagency working group for computer
                security is the National Security Telecommunications and
                Information Systems Security Committee. This committee
                is responsible for the initial objectives, policy and
                directives in classified information security
                (telecommunications and computer security) across the
                government. Each agency (including the Department of
                Energy) has representation on this committee and it's
                associated subcommittees on secure telecommunications
                and information systems security.
                Activities of the National Security Telecommunications
                Information Systems Security subcommittees include
                collaborating on research and development security
                activities between the member agencies on computer
                security. In addition, the Department of Energy and
                Department of Defense (Defense Information Systems
                Agency) periodically brief each other on developmental
                projects being planned. This helps to avoid duplication
                of effort and promotes complementary developmental work.
                In fact, first with the U.S Air Force and now with the
                Defense Information Systems Agency, the Department of
                Energy has had complementary computer security
                developmental efforts ongoing for several years. The
                Department is also involved with other agencies through
                its Computer Incident Advisory Capability.
                This is a team that researches vulnerabilities that can
                be exploited by viruses or hackers.  The team compares
                vulnerabilities with similar teams in other agencies to
                coordinate research and avoid duplication of effort.
                        QUESTION FROM SENATOR J. JAMES EXON
 Declassification of Environment, Security and Health Documents
  
 Question 6:    Dr. Keliher, in the past several years there has been an
                effort to make more information available to the public
                through increased efforts to declassify Department of
                Energy documents and limit the amount of new documents
                that are classified.  Many believe that declassified
                information will be of assistance to the Department of
                Energy in dealing with local communities to help them
                understand the nature and the scope of environmental
                contamination and to identify cleanup methods. How can
                you speed up the declassification process, and what are
                the special concerns that you must take into account as
                you declassify documents?
 Answer:        DOE occupies a special place in the classification
                community due to its unique statutory responsibility for
                Restricted Data. Over the years, we have developed
                management systems including detailed classification
                guides for various subjects.  Authorized classifiers and
                declassifies are trained, tested, and certified for
                technical classification competency before being
                permitted to apply these classification guides when
                identifying sensitive information. However, the key
                information release issue is the review of documents and
                the surgical removal of sensitive classified
                information. This process is referred to by DOE as
                document sanitization. Often the public sees this as
                being synonymous with declassification. By definition,
                declassification involves specific information to be
                removed from Restricted Data or Formerly Restricted
                Data, such as particular nuclear weapon design
                information or military utilization of nuclear weapons.
                When such information is officially declassified,
                documents containing this information, which
                invariably is commingled with other highly sensitive
                classified information, must be reviewed to identify the
                still classified information and excise same to
                declassify or sanitize the documents in question. The
                process is similar to the review of classified testimony
                before a congressional committee so that the classified
                information can be removed and the testimony published
                as unclassified.
                Now the circumstances have changed significantly in the
                last few years. Not only has our perception of the DOE's
                basic mission been drastically altered by changed world
                circumstances but with that have come new priorities.
                Among these are a desire to make substantial
                improvements in the way DOE relates to its customer
                base, both outside of and inside the Government. How
                much information we classify and how fast we review the
                information when requested for sanitization need to be
                changed.  The Department has streamlined the information
                declassification procedures which reduced the time
                required for declassification by more than 70 percent.
                However, we plan to improve it further.
                A plan has recently been approved by the Secretary to
                meet the objectives of releasing more information to the
                public more quickly and to protect only essential
                national security information. There are almost 15
                interrelated elements to the plan. It includes training
                more declassifies, reviewing the collection of
                information called Restricted Data, and using that
                designation only for information which currently can be
                effectively protected by the Government by such a
                designation, etc. This fundamental review of Restricted
                Data has never been done in DOE's almost 50-year
                history. We expect a number of very positive benefits to
                result from such a review. This would include reducing
                the amount of information we protect by
                declassification, thus making more information available
                to the public, improving the nonproliferation
                effectiveness of classification by better protecting
                that remaining information which really justifies
                protection and looking to the future, using state of the
                art computer and optical scanning capabilities, to try
                and develop advanced expert systems which we hope will
                turn out to give us an effective artificial intelligence
                capability for document reviews. We may do this in
                conjunction with a Cooperative Research and Development
                Agreement or similar mechanism, because successful
                research in this area could have substantial commercial
                value. In addition, it is important for the Atomic
                Energy Act to be updated in order to help us with
                managing the problems we face today.
                In summary we agree with the thrust of your question and
                we intend to both make the process even more responsive
                to requests for sanitized documents and at the same time
                to make sure we don't underclassify information and thus
                aid a proliferant or terrorist.
                       Question from Senator J. James Exon
 Chemical and Biological Weapons Technologies
 Question 7:    Dr. Alessi, could you please describe what type of work
                the Department of Energy is conducting and how much
                money the Department of Energy is spending in fiscal
                year 1992 and plans to spend in fiscal year 1994 on
                verification, detection, and control technologies for
                chemical and biological weapons?
 Answer:        The DOE Detection Technology program has not sponsored
                biological weapon detection technologies.
                The Department supports ongoing negotiations related to
                agreements regarding chemical weapons (CW) such as the
                Chemical Weapons Convention and the U.S./Russian
                Bilateral Agreement. The DOE does not participate as a
                lead player in establishing U.S. policy or
                implementation, however, DOE remains a key player in the
                interagency process to assure that the nuclear weapon
                production and national laboratory institutions are not
                compromised by the terms of any agreement.
                The DOE research and development program supports
                national arms control and nonproliferation initiatives
                and provides advanced detection and analytical
                technologies from the DOE national laboratories by
                exploiting the technical base of the nuclear
                weapon program.
                The program goal is to develop detection technologies to
                determine the status of both declared and/or suspected
                chemical weapons and production facilities. These
                technologies will be transferred to the DOD and the
                treaty implementation community. There are three areas
                of technology development:
                1)   Non-Destructive Evaluation technologies as a
                     reliable means to identify and screen chemical
                     weapons without the need for direct sampling.
                2)   Analytical technologies to provide sensitive and
                     accurate field methods to detect and identify
                     compounds associated with chemical weapon
                     production.
                3)   Technologies to detect and identify, and control CW
                     agents during weapon destruction processes.
                The funding profile is:
                Fiscal Year  Funding Level (including Capital Equipment)
                1989                $1,950K
                1990                $1,965K
                1991                $2,662K
                1992                $4,659K
                1993                $5,767K
                1994                $4,222K (proposed)
                 QUESTION FROM SENATOR J. JAMES EXON
 Relationship between Department of Energy's Independent Intelligence
 Activity and Other Intelligence Activities Elsewhere in the Government
 QUESTION 8:    Dr. Keliher, the Department of Energy has an
                independent intelligence activities. Could you
                please explain has it relates to other
                intelligence activities elsewhere in the
                government?
  
 ANSWER:        Pursuant to Executive Order 12333, DOE
                participates fully in the intelligence production
                activities of the U.S. intelligence community. To
                that end, the Department is a contributing member of:
                 0    The Intelligence Community Executive
                      Committee
                 0    National Foreign Intelligence Board
                 0    National Intelligence Production Board
                 0    National Intelligence Collection Board
                 0    Community Nonproliferation Committee
                 0    Joint Atomic Energy Intelligence Committee
                 0    Science and Technology Intelligence Committee
                 0    Economic Intelligence Committee
                 0    Weapons and Space Systems Intelligence
                      Committee
                 0    the full range of collection committees
                      (HUMINT, SIGINT, Open Source, COMIREX,
                      MASINT)
                 0    Interagency Intelligence Committee on Terrorism
                 0    Community Counterintelligence and Security
                      Countermeasures Office
                The Department of Energy produces finished,
                national-level intelligence on issues for which it
                has cognizance and technical expertise: nuclear
                proliferation, nuclear weapons, fossil and nuclear
                energy programs, environmental activities, and
                science and technology. DOE intelligence officers
                interface routinely with their counterparts at
                other agencies to ensure that DOE's research
                program complements theirs and that other
                agencies' programs respond to DOE's needs.
                Working through the DCI's Nonproliferation Center
                and the Department of Defense, DOE makes its
                nuclear weapons and materials expertise available
                to appropriate international organizations and
                contingency planning entities.
                DOE's counterintelligence program is designed to
                detect, deter, and defeat foreign intelligence
                service actions to acquire classified or sensitive
                DOE information. DOE provides analytical support
                to both CIA and the FBI. DOE's initiative in
                developing initial community reporting from DOE
                employees who may have been targeted by foreign
                intelligence services has disclosed targeting
                trends. Initial DOE inquiries may be referred to
                the FBI for investigation and possible joint
                operational action.
                            QUESTIONS FROM SENATOR EXON
  
 Question 9:    Dr. Keliher, in your statement you discuss the PINS
                computer system that is designed to assist with export
                controls. From a practical perspective, how does PINS
                aid in controlling the export of technologies that could
                be used for weapons of mass destruction?
 Answer:        The Proliferation Information Network System (PINS) is
                being developed as a nationwide secure network by the
                Export Control Operations Division within the Office of
                Arms Control and Nonproliferation. The implementation of
                PINS will accomplish two objectives: (1) facilitate and
                enhance the Department of Energy (DOE) dual-use nuclear
                export license processing and export control analysis,
                and (2) enhance nonproliferation data, and analysis
                coordination and cooperation between DOE and the U.S.
                Government nonproliferation community. In addition, an
                unclassified computer system, designed by DOE, has been
                proposed by the U.S. Government to the Nuclear Suppliers
                Group to facilitate and enhance information sharing,
                including export denials, among the 28 member countries.
                The objective is to help ensure that dual-use
                commodities are not provided to a would be proliferator
                by any member state.
                A substantial increase in government effort and in
                interagency and international cooperation on
                nonproliferation is imperative to counter the spread of
                weapons of mass destruction -- nuclear, missile,
                chemical, and biological. As world concerns about
                proliferation have grown, export controls have closed
                the most obvious routes to nuclear weapons. This has
                forced would be proliferants to build from more basic
                imports, i.e. dual-use commodities, including many
                uncontrolled, but useful, items when combined with
                controlled commodities. Therefore, analysis of
                proliferant country programs has become much more
                complex; hundreds of nuclear and nuclear-related items
                which could be used within a weapons program must be
                considered, particularly, within the context of a
                specific country. PINS will provide an important
                link between U.S. Government agencies and the DOE
                National Laboratories, enhancing the analyst's more
                traditional tools.  PINS is designed to encourage users
                to build proliferant profiles including the
                identification of procurement patterns and clandestine
                networks. This will allow comprehensive exchanges of
                proliferation data within the U.S. Government. Future
                plans call for the development of a PINS compatible
                prototype" incorporating a Special Compartmented
                Information level database.
                        QUESTION FROM SENATOR J. JAMES EXON
 Transportation, Storage, and Control of Nuclear Materials and Weapons
  
 QUESTION 10:   Dr. Keliher and Dr. Alessi, most of the Department of
                Energy's discussions with Russia have to date focused on
                the near term transportation, storage, and,control of
                nuclear materials and weapons. Do you plan to discuss
                the ultimate disposition of the nuclear materials,
                particularly plutonium, at any time?
 ANSWER:        As a part of the original iniatives for joint technical
                cooperation in the safe and secure transportation,
                storage, and control of nuclear weapons and materials
                with the former Soviet Union, discussions were begun
                with Russia in March 1992, on the possible purchase of
                highly enriched uranium and on plans for disposition of
                plutonium removed from dismantled former Soviet Union
                nuclear weapons. Purchase of highly enriched uranium was
                of straightforward commercial interest to Russia and an
                agreement for such purchase was signed and contract
                arrangements are now being finalized. However, Russian
                officials were not forthcoming on the subject of
                plutonium disposition options, except for long term
                storage and possibly conversion of plutonium for use in
                mixed oxide reactors. Subsequently, only peripheral
                discussions of plutonium disposition have occurred.
                These discussions have been in the context of technical
                information exchanges addressing the Russian fissile
                material storage facility design. In these discussions,
                Russian plans for ultimate plutonium disposition appear
                to be developing slowly, if at all. Several possible
                options have been suggested, but the requirement for
                long term storage of plutonium, at least as long as
                several decades, continues to be stated by Russia.
                Russia has indicated interest in cooperating in advanced
                reactor technologies which have been advocated by United
                States private sector firms. However, none of these
                technologies is yet viewed as being sufficiently mature
                that long term plans can be developed, including
                possible U.S. financial assistance. It is difficult to
                know whether Russia is driven in this matter by a
                quest for Western hard currency or by real concern for
                plutonium disposition.
                The Department of Energy, in collaboration with other
                U.S. government agencies, will continue to interact with
                Russian officials in discussions on purchase of highly
                enriched uranium.  Formal discussions on ultimate
                disposition options for plutonium are not presently
                planned.
                       Questions from Senator Robert C. Byrd
 Satellite Program  Coordination
 Question 11:   Dr. Keliher, in your testimony,  you place high priority
                on developing new satellite sensing techniques to
                independently monitor the proliferation of weapons of
                mass destruction, and you are requesting an increase of
                almost $15 million for this program in FY94. Is your
                development program consistent with and coordinated with
                the sensor roadmap developed by the intelligence
                community?
 Answer:        We assume that the sensor roadmap you are referring to
                is the Terms of Reference issued by the Director of
                Central Intelligence Nonproliferation Center in January
                1993. Our proposed development program is fully
                consistent with that guidance. In keeping with the
                strategies outlined in the guidance, our development
                program has been, and is being, coordinated with the
                Nonproliferation Center committees, the Central
                Measurements and Signatures Intelligence Technology
                Coordination Office, the National Reconnaissance Office,
                the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the
                Advanced Research Projects Agency, and various elements
                of the United States Air Force, especially the Air
                Force Technical Applications Center, the Space and
                Missile Systems Center, and the Defense Landsat Program
                Office. In addition, the proposed program has been
                specifically reviewed by the JASONS, a group of eminent
                scientific experts drawn from academia, and by our own
                Research and Development Advisory Group.
                       Question from Senator Robert C. Byrd
 Nuclear Proliferation Detection Technology Program Review
 Question 12:   Dr. Keliher, in your testimony, you also note that the
                Office of Intelligence is conducting a survey of nuclear
                proliferation detection technology on behalf of the
                Nonproliferation Center. While I agree that a
                complete and comprehensive data base on this collection
                issue is important, I would suggest that it should be
                used as the starting point for a review of these
                programs, with a view to downselecting and continuing
                only a few of the most valuable and cost-effective
                programs that meet the goals outlined in the sensor
                roadmap for non-proliferation detection technologies. Is
                such a review planned, and, if so, what is the schedule
                for its completion? What community elements will
                participate in such a review?
 Answer:        While the survey of nuclear proliferation detection
                technology by the Department of Energy is a continuing
                process, the first step in the evaluation of the
                efficacy of different technologies is the identification
                of the signatures associated with all parts of the
                nuclear weapon development process. This first step
                should be completed this fiscal year. The second step is
                the quantification of these signatures. When these steps
                are completed, then we will be in a better position not
                only to identify promising technologies, but also to
                identify technological shortfalls. These steps will lead
                to an exchange of technical information within the
                Research and Development Working Group (RDWG) of the
                Community Non-Proliferation Committee. This RDWG is a
                group of interagency R&D organizations and of the
                Intelligence Community.  Coordination of these
                proliferation detection technology capabilities and
                shortfalls will be a continuing process for the RDWG.
                        QUESTION FROM SENATOR ROBERT C. BYRD
 QUESTION 13:   Dr. Keliher, in her recent appearance before this
                Committee, Secretary O'Leary testified that the
                Department's FY 94 budget request included $538.7
                million, a six percent increase over FY 93, for the
                Office of Intelligence and National Security. This
                request supported 456 full-time-equivalents positions.
                Can you provide details about this personnel growth? It
                appears that you are enlarging your in-house analytical
                staff despite the creation of a Community
                Non-Proliferation Center, which you note is supported by
                only five DoE personnel.
 ANSWER:        In the FY 94 budget request, the number of
                full-time- equivalents positions actually declines by
                eight positions compared with FY 93 as outlined in the
                table below:
                                                             FTEs   FTEs
                                                             FY93   FY94
                Verification & Control Technology (V&CT)
                  --Arms Control and Nonproliferation        69     68
                  --Intelligence                             80     78
                Nuclear Safeguards & Security                214    211
                Security Investigations                      0      0
                Energy Management                            28     28
                Emergency Preparedness                       73     71
                Total Office of Intelligence &
                      National Security                      464    456
                            QUESTIONS FROM SENATOR WARNER
 Counter-Proliferation "Czar"
 QUESTION 14:   Last year, in the FY 1993 Defense Authorization Act,
                Congress directed the Administration to conduct a review
                of counter-proliferation activities and responsibilities
                in the Executive Branch and to report to Congress on
                current and proposed efforts to coordinate these efforts
                to prevent and control proliferation of weapons of mass
                destruction and advanced conventional weapons. What is
                the status of this Administration's review of these
                issues? What efforts have so far been made to improve
                cooperation and coordination among the various
                government agencies and entities to ensure an effective
                policy-making and implementation process for this
                important issue? Has an office or individual been
                designated as the "Czar" for counter-proliferation
                issues within the Executive Branch as a whole, and if
                so, who is that individual or office?
 ANSWER:        Pursuant to section 1503 of the National Defense
                Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1993 (P.L. 102-484),
                on May 11, 1993, a joint report was submitted to the
                Congress by the Department of Defense (DoD) and the
                Department of Energy (DOE) describing the role of the
                DoD and DOE with respect to the nonproliferation policy
                of the United States. The report also discussed existing
                and planned mechanisms for improving the integrating of
                DoD and DOE nonproliferation activities with those of
                other Federal departments and agencies and noted a
                number of changes that have occurred under the Clinton
                Administration within DoD and DOE and the interagency
                process for enhancing U.S. nonproliferation efforts.
                These include:
                  -  DoD has established the position of an Assistant
                     Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Security and
                     Counter-proliferation who will oversee all DoD
                     nonproliferation programs and activities.
                  -  DoD chartered a Task Force to examine how
                     Nunn-Lugar priorities, organization and
                     procedures could be revised to meet the programs
                     overall objective of assistance to Russia and
                     the other states of the former Soviet Union most
                     efficiently and effectively. The recommendations
                     of this Task Force are now being implemented
                     with DoD.
                  -  DOE established an Office of Intelligence and
                     National Security that includes its Office of Arms
                     Control and Nonproliferation, Office of Security
                     Affairs, Office of Intelligence, Office of
                     Emergency Planning and Operations, and a newly
                     established Office of Research and Development.
                     This new DOE office, inter alia, will enhance the
                     interaction of the Department's Arms Control and
                     Nonproliferation and Intelligence activities and
                     the integration of DOE's research and development
                     programs in support of U.S. and international
                     nonproliferation efforts.
                  -  The Director of Central intelligence's
                     Nonproliferation Center has established a Research
                     and Development Subcommittee. This subcommittee,
                     which is co-chaired by the Central Intelligence
                     Agency and the DOE, will identify, monitor, and
                     guide research and development (R&D) in technical
                     collection and analysis methodologies related to
                     proliferation. In addition to Intelligence
                     Community R&D offices and the DOE, the DoD and the
                     Arms Control and Disarmament Agency are also
                     members of this subcommittee.
                  -  In the previous Administration, the principal
                     interagency policy coordinating mechanism for
                     nonproliferation and export control were the
                     Policy Coordinating Committee (PCC) on
                     Nonproliferation and the PCC on Technology
                     Transfer. To better focus U.S. efforts in these
                     areas, these PCC's have been replaced by the
                     Interagency Working Group (IWG) on Nonproliferation
                     and Export Control and includes representatives
                     from the DoD and DOE.
                As to whether an office or individual has been
                designated as the "Czar" for counter-proliferation
                issues within the Executive Branch as a whole, the
                aforementioned Special Assistant to the President and
                Senior Director for Nonproliferation and Export
                Controls, Daniel Poneman, provides such leadership for
                the interagency nonproliferation process.
                         Question from Senator John Warner
 LIDAR
 Question 15:   Last year, Congress directed the Department of Defense
                to develop a LIDAR system for detection of weapons
                proliferation and allocated $11.8 million for the
                first year of its development. Since then, we have
                learned of a proliferation of LIDAR programs throughout
                the government, including DOD, DOE, and the Intelligence
                Community. Could you briefly summarize for us the status
                of your efforts to coordinate these somewhat duplicative
                programs and to provide adequate funding in the
                appropriate agency budgets to develop near-, medium-,
                and long-term proliferation detection capabilities
                utilizing LIDAR technology. If possible, please provide
                cost estimates and timelines, as well as performance
                goals, for each such program.
 Answer:        The term LIDAR encompasses a broad range of technologies
                and applications. DOE program managers and researchers
                at the DOE laboratories have been communicating with
                other agencies and laboratories engaged in LIDAR
                programs and, to our knowledge, none of the LIDAR
                programs funded by other government agencies is
                duplicative with the DOE program. The objectives and
                technologies of the DOE program are distinct from all
                other currently funded programs of which we are aware
                and is a laser development program focused on chemical
                effluent detection applications and is not a "LIDAR"
                program per-se.
                In particular, we are aware of the DOD program for which
                Congress has allocated $11.8 million, and have been
                communicating with the researchers at the Air Force
                Phillips Laboratory who are executing that program.
                Their objective is to develop a LIDAR system capable of
                locating and characterizing hard objects in space
                and in Tactical Missile Defense scenarios. The objective
                of the DOE program is markedly different; namely, to
                develop the capability to remotely detect and
                characterize chemical effluents from facilities
                producing materials for use in weapons of mass
                destruction. The DOE program is called "Chemical
                Analysis by Laser Interrogation of Proliferation
                Effluents (CALIOPE)". This will be accomplished by using
                laser spectroscopic techniques such as differential
                absorption, fluorescence and Raman scattering.  The
                CALIOPE program breaks out laser systems according to
                their different detection frequencies on the
                electromagnetic spectrum and different techniques based
                on characteristic responses of chemicals to laser
                interrogation.
                We are aware of several other LIDAR programs funded,by
                other agencies. These include programs funded by the
                National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA),
                the Army, and the Navy. The NASA programs (QUICKLAWS),
                the Navy program (Gatekeeper), and one component of the
                Army program, are either hard body reflection or
                backscatter LIDAR development efforts and are not
                intended for proliferation detection. The other Army
                program is developing a system for detection of specific
                chemical warfare agents in battlefield reconnaissance
                applications. The relevant concentrations, ranges, and
                chemical species, and thereby the appropriate
                technologies, all differ from those suitable for
                proliferation detection.
                The Advanced Research Projects Agency, the Defense
                Intelligence Agency, and the Defense Nuclear Agency are
                establishing proliferation detection technology
                development programs, but, to our knowledge, none of
                these programs includes LIDAR- The Air Force Technical
                Applications Center has expressed an interest in the
                area but their program is still in planning. In order to
                help avoid duplication, DOE has briefed its CALIOPE
                program to all of these agencies and will continue to
                provide updated briefings as the CALIOPE program plan
                progresses.
                DOE does not have cost estimates, time lines or
                performance goals for the programs of other agencies.
                The cost estimates, time lines and performance goals for
                the DOE CALIOPE program are still under development and
                will appear in the CALIOPE program plan by the end of
                the summer. That plan will be forwarded to the
                appropriate Congressional committees as requested.
                         Question from Senator John Warner
 Non-Proliferation Detection Technologies
 Question 16:   Another part of the FY 1993 Defense Authorization Act
                required the Departments of Defense and Energy to
                prepare a coordinated report on the wide variety of
                issues and problems associated with nonproliferation
                policy, detection, response, and prevention. One portion
                of that law mandated that DOD and DOE review and report
                on the specific technologies available to detect
                proliferation regimes now and in the future. What is the
                current status of that report, and would you please
                summarize the major finding of your review,
                particularly in the following areas:
      a.   What are the most egregious.duplications of effort which
           have been discovered during that review, and what
           actions have been taken to eliminate such duplication?
      b.   What are the most significant shortfalls, if any, in our
           current capability to detect and monitor weapons
           proliferation, and which agency is responsible for developing
           a budget plan for meeting such shortfalls in our
           capabilities?
      c.   What is your assessment of the past and current coordination
           between DOD and its agencies, such as SNA, ARPA, DIA, and
           the Services, with DOE and other Executive Branch entities,
           including CIA and the Department of State? What are your
           plans to improve such coordination?
 Answer:        The Department of Energy (DOE) in coordination with the
                Department of Defense (DOD) provided a report titled,
                "The Role of the Department of Defense and the
                Department of Energy with Respect to the
                Nonproliferation Policy of the United States," to
                Congress on May 11, 1993, in response to the FY-1993
                Defense Authorization Act, Section 1503. This report was
                submitted to the Committee on Armed Services and the
                Committee on Foreign Relations of the Senate; and to the
                Committee of Armed Services, the Committee on Foreign
                Affairs and the Committee on Energy and Commerce
                of the House of Representatives. The report addressed in
                detail all matters covered in Section 1503 of the Act.
                In addition, in May 1992, the DOE Office of Arms Control
                and Nonproliferation submitted to Congress a detailed
                Strategic Plan for Nuclear Proliferation Detection
                Technology Development, citing specific technologies,
                current and projected to detect proliferation
                regimes. For the most part, this,latter document remains
                a valid description of on-going and emerging
                proliferation detection technologies within DOE's newly
                established Office of Research and Development under the
                Office of Intelligence and National Security.
                The major findings of the report indicate that the
                international community has placed a high priority on
                the problem of the proliferation of the weapons of mass
                destruction, and that the multifaceted capabilities of
                the DOD and the DOE complement each other in responding
                to the requirements for detecting, monitoring, and
                countering the proliferation of the weapons on mass
                destruction (WMD).
                The nonproliferation technologies review process used in
                the DOE is one of periodic evaluation and assessments to
                ensure that technology programs and R&D efforts are
                keyed to the intelligence and national security needs of
                the USG. This continuous review and scrutinizing of the
                strategic plan referred to above, among other factors,
                is the basis for guiding our current and projected
                detection technology choices.
      a.   While our most recent review did not uncover any blatant
           duplications of effort, it did nonetheless afford us the
           opportunity to better define and execute our programs. In
           this manner, we are better able to direct the combined work
           of our National Laboratories and focus them toward common
           objectives.  A prime example is in the laser technology area
           under a program called Chemical Analysis by Laser
           Interrogation of Proliferation Effluents (CALIOPE). Through
           coordination and clarification of activities distributed
           across five laboratories we have effected a collective and
           cohesive laser nonproliferation detection program. While the
           effort is one of management cooperation which eliminates the
           potential for duplication, the real benefit will result-from
           the collaborative technical efforts of scientists And
           engineers of our laboratories. Beyond its principal purpose
           of nonproliferation we fully expect this effort to result in
           spin-off applications that can address other technical
           shortfalls in the intelligence, defense, and environmental
           areas as well.
      b.   Perhaps the most daunting shortfall and technical challenge
           of proliferation detection is the development of monitoring
           strategies and affordable systems that can deal with the
           magnitude of the global geopolitical dimension of
           proliferation. DOE's approach to nonproliferation detection
           technology developments in light of these challenges is to
           have available to the USG a broad base of technologies
           options ranging from close-in-hands-on sensors to distant
           remote satellite detection. The specific technologies and
           systems are then down selected for application to what are
           determined to be the priority threats or proliferant targets.
           We are addressing through R&D the known specific
           technical shortfalls in areas such as discrimination between
           underground nuclear tests and other seismic events, remote
           detection of effluents related to the development of weapons
           of mass destruction, improved sensitivity in detecting
           atmospheric nuclear events, and multi-sensor data fusion.
           Subsequent to the United Nations Security Council Resolution
           #687 regarding Iraq, the International Atomic Energy Agency
           (IAEA) Board of Governors, authorized the IAEA Secretariat to
           use "special inspections" to seek out undeclared nuclear
           activities. "Special inspections" will entail a greater need
           for better information as well as detection and monitoring
           technologies. The intelligence community and the Department
           of State are appropriate partners with DOE for developing the
           best mix of overt and covert detection and monitoring systems
           that best supports U.S. policy on nonproliferation of nuclear
           weapons.
           The DOE Strategic Plan for Proliferation Detection Technology
           Development has been used as the basis for presenting a
           budget request to Congress for nonproliferation initiatives
           in FY-1993 and the following years. While there is no formal
           budget crosswalk between Departments or Agencies at the
           detection technology level, there is close coordination on
           program and issues of common concern that ultimately impact
           the budget build.  The joint DOE/DOD report to Congress
           pursuant to Section 1503 on Nonproliferation describes in
           detail the extent of coordination that goes on in the
           interagency arena. These on-going activities as highlighted
           in the report undergo frequent review, some formal and many
           informal. Management is constantly alert to the opportunity
           for improvements to this process. Within the Office
           of Intelligence and National Security it is a matter of
           policy and routine program management to continually seek to
           improve detection technology coordination, cooperation, and
           collaboration in its detection technology efforts.
      c.   In an effort to improve the past informal coordination
           between DOE and other government agencies a formal mechanism
           has been established within the Executive Branch. This
           process is the Research and Development Working Group (RDWG)
           under the Intelligence Community Nonproliferation Committee.
           This RDWG is co-chaired by the DOE and the Nonproliferation
           Center and serves as the forum for interagency review and
           coordination of all R&D associated with proliferation
           detection technologies. We believe that this mechanism can
           serve to improve the interagency coordination for all
           elements of the executive branch.
                             Question fran Senator John Warner
 North Korean Nuclear Program
 QUESTION 17:   While the U.S.-North Korea bilateral talks at the
                United Nations did succeed in preventing immediate
                withdrawal of North Korea from the Nuclear
                Non-Proliferation Treaty, the talks did not result in an
                agreement to allow inspection by the IAEA of North
                Korea's suspected nuclear materials production and
                storage facilities.  Please give us some insight into
                the Administration's plans to continue to press for such
                access and when we might reasonable expect a definitive
                outcome. Also, please give us your assessment of the
                potential threat inherent in continuing lengthy
                discussions, in view of some publicly released estimates
                that North Korea may have sufficient nuclear material to
                produce a small number of nuclear weapons within a year
                or two.  Finally, these bilateral discussions are being
                led by Assistant Secretary of State Bob Gallucci; what
                is the process by which the concerns and recommendations
                of the Departments of Defense and Energy are reflected
                in Mr. Gallucci's discussions with the North Koreans?
                Was the possibility of a nuclear-armed North Korea
                considered in the development of the "win-hold-win"
                strategy of the Aspin Pentagon?
 ANSWER:        The importance of access to suspected nuclear facilities
                has been made clear to the North Koreans and they will
                continue to be pressed on this matter. In particular,
                access to the locations in North Korea which we believe
                are associated with nuclear reprocessing is critical.
                Without such access the International Atomic Energy
                Agency Inspectors and the international community will
                be unable to determine how much reprocessing may have
                occurred in North Korea. These facilities are important
                to inspect because the volume of nuclear wastes that
                they may contain are a key indicator of the amount of
                plutonium that may have been obtained through
                reprocessing.
                The importance of a delay caused by lengthy discussion
                depends upon how much plutonium has been obtained
                through reprocessing. If North Korea has not obtained
                sufficient material for a nuclear device, then delay
                will not be of great technical concern, as long as it
                does not allow them to do any additional reprocessing to
                acquire any more material. This is where continued
                routine IAEA inspections are valuable. We believe that
                covert reprocessing cannot occur as long as routine
                monitoring of the reactor and reprocessing plant by the
                IAEA continues. Such inspections effectively cap
                the production capabilities of the facility.
                However, if North Korea has already obtained sufficient
                plutonium for one or two devices, then a lengthy delay
                may permit them to make considerable progress in
                weaponization - designing and fabricating a nuclear
                explosive device. If this is the case, then a lengthy
                delay could have very serious consequences.
                The Department of Energy is in regular communication
                with the State Department on Korean issues. To assure
                that the State Department is fully informed of the
                technical views of the Department of Energy on the
                situation at the North Korean facility, the DOE has
                assigned a nuclear reprocessing and inspection expert
                from Oak Ridge National Laboratory to the State
                Department on an as-needed basis for analysis and
                advice.
                DOE defers to DOD on whether a nuclear armed North Korea
                was considered in the "win-hold-win" strategy of the
                Aspin Pentagon.
      



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