U.S. Looking to Israel to Play Role in Future Peace
(Powell June 25 NBC Television News Interview) (730) In cooperation with a more democratic Palestinian government, Secretary of State Colin Powell said the United States will be looking to Israel to take steps to ensure the successful implementation of peace in the region. Speaking on the NBC Nightly News June 25, Powell said Israel would need to end the occupation of Palestinian territories, end settlement activity, and provide for a return of revenue. Following is the transcript of Powell's interview with NBC: (begin transcript) U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE Office of the Spokesman June 25, 2002 INTERVIEW Secretary Of State Colin L. Powell On NBC's Nightly News with Tom Brokaw June 25, 2002 (7:08 p.m. EDT) MR. BROKAW: Mr. Secretary, when Yasser Arafat faced reporters today, they said to him, "Was the President referring to you when he called for a change in the Palestinian leadership?" And he responded, "Definitely not." Did he not get the message? SECRETARY POWELL: Well, I think he got the message. And of course the President did not specifically refer to Chairman Arafat in his speech yesterday, but he was certainly talking about the leadership that Chairman Arafat has provided, making the point that we need a change in leadership and we need to see new leaders come up so that we can have more diffused leadership where others have responsibility; it's not all in the hands of a single executive. But the President was rather clear that he did not believe that the current leadership has been taking the kinds of actions appropriate to the situation, not clamping down hard enough on terror and violence, and not doing what is necessary to move the Palestinian people in the direction of a Palestinian state, which is what the President wants for them: a state living in peace, side by side with Israel. That's his vision. And we're going to work to get that vision, and we hope that the Palestinian people will put in power new leaders that will work more aggressively toward that vision. MR. BROKAW: You have been saying all day long that the response from the other Arab nations has been very positive. Egyptian President Mubarak said it was a good speech, but he said, "I didn't see anything in that statement that referred to Arafat." If Arafat is reelected by the Palestinian people, you have no choice but to deal with him, do you? SECRETARY POWELL: We will see what the Palestinian people do in the election, and I don't want to answer right now in a hypothetical and -- MR. BROKAW: But why couldn't you answer that, Mr. Secretary? I mean, after all -- SECRETARY POWELL: Because the election hasn't been held. And let's see what happens after we put in place, as I believe the Palestinians are preparing to do, new constitutional procedures; hold elections which are free and fair; and let the Palestinian people make a judgment on the circumstances they find themselves in, where they are not able to get to work, they are not able to live normal lives; and let them evaluate the leadership that has produced these conditions and the leadership which has not moved them closer to the their desire for a state of their own. And we'll see what judgment they make, and then of course if it is that kind of an election, free and fair, then we will respond to what the outcome of that election is. MR. BROKAW: A prominent Arab official told me today that it's impossible for the Palestinian people to meet all of these conditions while they are being occupied by Israeli Defense Forces, and that there was not enough pressure put on the Israelis at this time to pull out of the Palestinian territories so the constitutional process can go forward. SECRETARY POWELL: Let me answer two ways. First, with respect to what the President said about his expectations for the Israeli side, as we move forward, his expectations are rather high: end to the occupation, end to settlement activity, return of revenue, open up all of the communities, and negotiations to end the occupation that began in 1967 on the basis of Land-for-Peace. So that's a pretty firm vision, and he wants to do it within three years, and he has put his full weight behind that. (end transcript) (Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)
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