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DATE=2/21/2000 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT TITLE=INDONESIA / AUTONOMY (L ONLY) NUMBER=2-259389 BYLINE=GARY THOMAS DATELINE=JAKARTA CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: Indonesia has been wracked by violence, some of it by armed movements demanding independence or autonomy. Those demands have become more insistent with the end of President Suharto's autocratic rule in 1998. As VOA correspondent Gary Thomas reports, Indonesia's president is looking to change the way the country is governed. TEXT: In an interview with VOA, President Abdurrahman Wahid said demands for independence or autonomy by restive provinces mean Indonesia will have to move to some form of federal government. Just don't, he says, use the word "federalism." /// WAHID ACT /// Of course we will federalize the system, but we don't call it a federal system. I mean because there are various degrees of federalism. Because of this we have to be careful. /// END ACT /// Under the rule of former President Suharto, all power was firmly held by the central government in Jakarta. Local governments had little say in their own affairs. Attempts to gain more autonomy, some of them by armed guerrilla movements, were firmly suppressed by the military - sometimes violently. Thousands of people disappeared or were killed, allegedly at the hands of the military, in places like East Timor and Aceh. But the attitude toward autonomy has changed with a new government in Jakarta that is more receptive to local demands. Mr. Wahid says granting real local autonomy is one of his top priorities. /// 2nd WAHID ACT /// One (priority) is how to set up or establish autonomous governments. Maybe that's federal or not, I don't care, but, actually, the so-called local governments should be set up and have real power. /// END ACT /// The spate of violence across Indonesia has raised concerns that Indonesia will have to institute federalism to prevent disintegration. But, as Mr. Wahid points out, the concept has a bad reputation here because of a failed attempt at federalism early in the country's independence. /// 3rd WAHID ACT /// We will opt for the system we would like but we don't call it federalism because federalism is a dirty word left by the Dutch. The Dutch used federalism to kill the Republic of Indonesia at that time. So then people were angry because of that. And until now, they refused to acknowledge a federal system. Of course, in that way, we will do federalism, but without the name. So like what was said by Shakespeare, "What's in a name?" /// END ACT /// Mr. Wahid adds that he still backs the concept of a referendum for Aceh, where an armed separatist movement is still very active. But he says leaders there are content with special status for the province. /// 4th WAHID ACT /// They said to me, well, it's enough for you to say the Special Province of Aceh. Because it's a Special Province, you don't need a referendum, you don't need federal system. It's just the Special Province of Aceh. /// END ACT /// Any move to a federal system for the country as a whole, however, is liable to run into stiff resistance from a still-powerful military and a skeptical parliament. (Signed) NEB/GT/KL 21-Feb-2000 08:00 AM EDT (21-Feb-2000 1300 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .





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