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DATE=2/11/2000 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT TITLE=INDONESIA-MILITARY NUMBER=5-45430 BYLINE=GARY THOMAS DATELINE=JAKARTA CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: The struggle between Indonesia's president and his former military chief has highlighted the profound changes that have taken place in Indonesian institutions since President Suharto was forced out nearly two years ago. The once-powerful military now finds itself on the defensive, accused of human rights abuses. VOA correspondent Gary Thomas reports from Jakarta on efforts to reform the Indonesian military. TEXT: The once-cozy, secure world of the Indonesian military has been turned upside down. During the 32 years of President Suharto's autocratic rule, the military and civil arms of the government were so inextricably linked as to be nearly indistinguishable. The military enjoyed patronage and protection from Mr. Suharto, himself a former general. It also played a dominant political role under a doctrine known as "dual function". But now the military finds itself answering to a democratically elected civilian government. And while everyone seems to agree on the need for military reform, no one seems quite sure of how to go about it. In an exclusive interview with VOA, Lieutenant General Agus Widjojo, one of the country's most senior officers, said the military is committed to reform. Speaking in his office at military headquarters outside Jakarta, he said both the military and the civilian sides are in a learning process. // WIDJOJO ACT // So the reform of the military does not necessarily, totally depend on one side, of the military, only. But it is a two way traffic, an understanding how to play the game, the military towards the civilians, but also the civilians towards the military. And this is where the simultaneous learning process is going on in Indonesia. // END ACT // General Widjojo said the military is looking for a specific legal framework on its role in the new, democratic Indonesia. // WIDJOJO ACT // Here comes also the requirement for a definite legal umbrella which will give the authority to what they may do. And that will go, again, into the civil- military relations - that is, the requirement of the civilians to understand how to handle, how to use, how to control, the military, and what sort of regulations and laws are required so that soldiers on the ground will do the job without any hesitancy. // END ACT // Salim Said, a prominent civilian analyst of Indonesian military affairs, agrees that new rules on the evolving civil-military relationship must be laid down. But, he points out, the military has been left to fend for itself in defining what reform should be. That, says Mr. Said, is a big mistake. // SAID ACT // In the past we made the mistake in allowing the military to decide their function. That's why we had "dual function." We should not repeat that mistake again. So do not ask questions of the military, how far they are reforming themselves. They should make reformation based on the basic reformation made by the civilians. // END ACT // Mr. Said says that parliament must act, or there is a risk to returning to old ways. // SAID ACT // But what we would like to see is that the parliament, representing the people, has a say on the Indonesian military, not only the president. Because there is a danger: if the president is controlling the military without the control of the parliament, the president can easily repeat the mistake of Suharto, politicizing the military for his own political interest. We have to avoid that kind of thing. // END ACT // Mr. Said says the time to make those changes is now, when the popularity of the Indonesian armed forces is at a low ebb both domestically and internationally. Former armed forces chief General Wiranto and at least five other generals have been implicated in human rights abuses in East Timor. (signed) Neb/gpt/gc/plm 11-Feb-2000 05:02 AM EDT (11-Feb-2000 1002 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .





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