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DATE=2/2/2000 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT TITLE=EAST TIMOR / HUMAN RIGHTS (L ONLY) NUMBER=2-258730 BYLINE=GARY THOMAS DATELINE=BANGKOK CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: U-N officials in East Timor Wednesday found 10 bodies in a mass grave that may contain the corpses of up to 60 victims of anti-independence militias. As VOA Southeast Asia correspondent Gary Thomas reports from Bangkok, the latest discovery came as East Timor's most prominent political figures told an audience in the Thai capital, that there must be justice for the victims of human rights abuses in the territory. TEXT: East Timor's best-known figures, former rebel leader Xanana Gusmao and Nobel Laureate Jose Ramos-Horta, say it does not matter where justice comes from. They say trials for Indonesian troops accused of human rights abuses in East Timor could either take place in Indonesian courts or before a United Nations-sponsored tribunal. Either, they say, would be acceptable. Hundreds of East Timorese were killed by pro-Jakarta militias in a rampage after the August 30th vote for independence. A just-released Indonesian government human rights report accuses top army officers of responsibility for the violence. At a forum at Thammasat University in Bangkok Wednesday, Mr. Ramos-Horta said an international war crimes tribunal will not be necessary, if Indonesia takes strong action. // RAMOS-HORTA ACT // We are not seeking revenge. We are seeking justice. If the Indonesian republic is strong enough, if the Indonesian conscience is strong enough to bring the culprits of the war crimes, genocide, rape in East Timor to trial in a process that everybody see, yes, it was fair, it was just, then we all would applaud Indonesia and there is no need for a war crimes tribunal that would in fact be an embarrassment to Indonesia. // END ACT // The question of how to deal with such abuses is one of the touchiest issues a newly independent East Timor must deal with. The territory is under a United Nations Transitional Authority, and lacks a functioning judicial system. Mr. Ramos-Horta says East Timorese officials are examining the possibility of a South African-style truth and reconciliation commission to deal with native East Timorese accused of human rights abuses. But he emphasized that full disclosure must come first. // RAMOS-HORTA ACT // Truth, above all, then reconciliation. Without the truth being uncovered, being displayed, there cannot be reconciliation. // END ACT // // OPT // He adds that talks are being held with religious leaders on how to deal with the issue. // RAMOS-HORTA ACT // We have had numerous discussions with Bishop Belo and Bishop Basilio, about how best to address the issue of responsibility of political leaders - those who did not take part directly in the killings, but incited the killings - and those who, militia leaders who, executed the killings on behalf of their political leaders, on behalf of the Indonesian military. // END ACT // // END OPT // Mr. Gusmao spoke of the need to build strong ties with Indonesia. But he says for that to happen there must be a bit of positive publicity about East Timor's former colonial master. // GUSMAO ACT // To encourage trade and economic links with Indonesia, it is important that we take steps to counter the negative image of Indonesia which many of our people have due to the their experience of military excesses. // END ACT // Mr. Gusmao says good relations between Indonesia and East Timor are necessary to ensure the newly-freed territory's economic prosperity. (signed) NEB/GPT/FC 02-Feb-2000 06:47 AM EDT (02-Feb-2000 1147 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .





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