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18 November 1999

Transcript: SecState Albright Press Briefing on OSCE, Chechnya

(OSCE Charter outlines behavior for dealing with internal conflict)
(2220)
The decision by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in
Europe (OSCE) to sign a charter November 18 defining international
norms of behavior is an important step in helping countries deal with
internal conflicts, says Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
During a special briefing the same day, the Secretary said the move
demonstrates OSCE consensus "that conflicts within societies that
could potentially also cause regional instability were also
everybody's business....
"And I do think that this is an important step in terms of creating
tools that might help countries deal with the kinds of internal
conflicts that have become, unfortunately, more prevalent," she said.
Regarding Chechnya, Albright said President Clinton was very forceful
during his meeting with Russian President Boris Yeltsin in expressing
the U.S. view that the Russian approach is wrong and that "it would be
leading to a cycle of violence and needed a political solution."
Following is White House transcript:
(begin transcript)
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
(Istanbul, Turkey)
November 18, 1999
PRESS BRIEFING BY SECRETARY OF STATE MADELEINE ALBRIGHT
Conrad International Hotel
Istanbul, Turkey
HAMMER: Mr. Berger briefed you on the President's bilateral meetings
today and Secretary Albright is now here to brief on today's OSCE
activities. We have about 15 minutes. I understand there's going to be
a briefing on the budget piped in from Washington beginning about 8:00
p.m. our time, so we have about 15 minutes.
Secretary Albright.
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: We took an important next step in defining
international norms today, in fact, of signing, being prepared to sign
the charter of the OSCE. In 1975, with the Helsinki Final Act, what
had happened was the international community decided that human rights
were everybody's business. And what has happened as a result of today
is that it, in effect, we have made -- the consensus of the OSCE is
that conflicts within societies that could potentially also cause
regional instability were also everybody's business, and that language
is embodied within the charter. And I do think that this is an
important step in terms of creating tools that might help countries
deal with the kinds of internal conflicts that have become,
unfortunately, more prevalent.
Obviously, as we were here, the question also was, how would Chechnya
impact on this particular discussion and these decisions. And when we
got here, we felt on the Chechnya issue that we needed, as an
organization, to pay more attention to the humanitarian tragedy, to
pay more attention to making clear that a political solution was
necessary, not a military one, to pay more attention to abiding by
international norms, and trying to determine what kind of a role the
OSCE could play within that Chechnya problem.
As a result of very long negotiations, we were able to come to
agreement on language that would go into the summit declaration. And
what we managed to do was to, first of all, recognize the territorial
integrity of Russia and to condemn terrorism, but also to make quite
clear that there needed to be respect for OSCE norms, that there had
to be and could be humanitarian assistance including by international
organizations, that we agreed on the need for a political solution,
that the OSCE could contribute to that political solution, that the
OSCE was willing to assist in developing a political dialogue, that
the Russian Federation would agree to invite the Chairman in Office
for a visit, and we reaffirmed the original mandate for the mandate of
the OSCE mission from three years ago.
So we did, I believe, accomplish what we wanted in terms of the role
of the OSCE in the Chechnya tragedies that are going on, and I
believe, have made it clear that international norms need to be
respected. President Yeltsin came to this meeting with his goal to
explain his view of what was happening in Chechnya. When he was here,
he heard from other nations that they saw it differently. And he
obviously instructed his foreign minister to work with the rest of us
in trying to forge the kind of agreement that I've talked about so
that we would be in a position to adopt the charter of the OSCE and
take the next step of now making it clear that living up to
international norms as far as conflicts in societies are concerned, is
the business of the OSCE, and there was a consensus agreement on that.
QUESTION: Madam Secretary, are you satisfied with today's results, and
do you think it will change anything on the ground?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: As I've said, I think we came here with trying to
do something about paying attention to the humanitarian situation and
all the -- I won't go through this all again, but I think we did
manage to get agreement on a lot of very important parts of it. I
think that the United Nations is going in to look at the humanitarian
situation. I think we have made clear that more humanitarian
assistance needs to be given, and that the OSCE chairman in office has
to have a role.
I think -- I'm not going to oversell this. I think that we
accomplished a lot. But this is a longer-term problem, and I think
that we need to keep pushing it along, and we have been given more
tools to deal with it. And I'm sure that the Russians heard a general
sense of disquiet about the way that the Chechnya issue was handled.
But I think that this is a long process, we have begun on a new road
in terms of how the OSCE works, and I have to tell you, I had a very
interesting conversation today with President Havel, and we talked
about the 1975 Helsinki Final Act, and the fact that human rights
became everybody's business as a result of that act was not evident
the next day. It was evident in subsequent years, and he, of course,
is the epitome of it, having started Charter 77.
Q: Did you go any distance at all to convincing Russia to dial back on
its use of military force in Chechnya?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: We certainly talked a great deal about the need
for a political solution, and the fact that the military approach
here, as President Clinton said, had the danger of creating a vicious
cycle.
Q: I want to be clear. Did Foreign Minister Ivanov specifically agree
to this visit by the OSCE Chairman and to put that in the summit
declaration? And if so, when would that visit be?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: He did agree to it, it is going to be in the
summit declaration, and I can't tell you exactly when it's going to be
-- soon.
Q: Is it fair to say that you wanted the OSCE to negotiate, however,
and all you really got (is) an agreement, and the OSCE Chairman should
go to Moscow to talk about talks?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: The Europeans, earlier in the week, had called for
a strong role by the OSCE, a mission, and I think that we got a good
foot in the door on that.
Q: Madam Secretary, can you say how hard it's going to be to identify
people to negotiate with in Chechnya?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I think this is one of the points that has been
made, is that it is not easy to identify them, but I think there has
to be an effort made to do so. And that, I think, is what has been
missing is really looking for people that can legitimately negotiate.
Q: Madam Secretary, if you've reached agreement on the charter, when
will the charter be signed, it that's what you're trying to tell us?
And, secondly, was any of the language modified and any reference in
the new charter to interference in the internal affairs of a nation?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Well, first of all, let me say the charter, as far
as things look now, will be signed tomorrow, and I was not negotiating
the language on the charter part, but I think from our perspective, we
got what we needed in terms of creating this norm now, that it was
everybody's -- it was the OSCE's business to be able to deal with
civil conflicts and the creation of tools -- for instance, this REACT
force -- REACT group, that is able to go in rapidly in order to try to
do conflict prevention, so that there would be a way to try to avoid
some of the particular conflicts from escalating even more.
So what it did in the charter was make clear that it was the business
of OSCE to deal with these internal conflicts and created the tools
for how to do it.
Q:  What will the OSCE chairman seek to do on the visit to Chechnya?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Well, I think those are the other things that
we're going to be discussing with him. All of us will be, I think,
setting out various things for him to do. But what is important is
that what came out of the language that we negotiated is that the OSCE
is willing to assist in the political dialogue and there is agreement
on the fact that a political solution is essential; and that the
assistance of the OSCE would contribute to achieving that goal.
Q:  Will the Chairman go to Moscow or Chechnya?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT:  Chechnya.
Q: Can you update us on the status of the CFE? And if it is going to
be signed by the U.S., whether you think that under current
circumstances there are any chances it would be ratified?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Let me say the negotiations are going on as we
speak. One of the aspects of the amended CFE is that forces -- that
countries can make decisions about the forces that they have on their
own territory. And some of the issues obviously have to do with
Georgia and Moldova, and discussions are still going on. I don't want
to speculate beyond that because the negotiations are going on right
now.
Q: Have you considered how popular President Yeltsin's handling of the
Chechnya crisis is within Russia and that President Clinton's
statements this morning are being played up in the Russian media as
being supportive of his policies, should the President's language have
been tougher?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: I think the President's language has been
applauded by every foreign minister that's come up to me today for
having been so astute in the way that it pointed out to President
Yeltsin why it was important for the international community to care
about events within a country.
And when he compared -- when he said that we all cared when he got up
on a tank, that there was a reason for the international community to
care when something is going on in a country. He made very clear that
he did not agree with the way that the situation was being handled. He
associated himself with Chancellor Schroeder's remarks and made very
clear in his own words why he felt that the Russian approach was wrong
and that it would be leading to a cycle of violence and needed a
political solution. He also made quite clear that he did not accept
President Yeltsin's statement about U.S.-led NATO aggression on
Yugoslavia.
So I think he was very direct, very tough, and very astute in the way
that he spoke directly to Boris Yeltsin about why this was wrong.
Q: Madam Secretary, do you have any idea how the across-the-board
budget cut in the new budget deal will affect your department?
SECRETARY ALBRIGHT: Well, I must say that I'm looking at this in a
positive way because when we started these budget negotiations, I
thought that we'd have to kind of hang it up at the State Department
because we had no money. And instead, what has happened -- while we
have not gotten everything that we asked for, in the President's
original request, we did get the Wye money, we got the threat
reduction debt relief, peacekeeping, embassy security, and obviously,
also U.N. arrears.
So I'm feeling very good about what we have gotten in terms of being
able to actually carry out foreign policy, and while we obviously need
more, and my budget is still only less than one percent of the federal
budget -- one penny out of every dollar goes to preventing wars from
happening and what I call the first line of defense, our diplomacy --
we are certainly better off than we were before.
And there were some very hard decisions to be made in order to get
this budget. Probably the hardest that any of us have had to make, who
particularly care about the issue of family planning -- and I felt, as
Secretary of State, it probably was one of the most difficult
decisions that I had -- and we are going to try to do everything we
can to minimize the effect of that decision.
Thank you.
(end transcript)
(Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S.
Department of State)



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