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DATE=9/27/1999 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT TITLE=E. TIMOR ATROCITIES NUMBER=5-44335 BYLINE=AMY BICKERS DATELINE=JAKARTA CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: Recent media reports point to a lack of evidence of many of the atrocities and mass killings alleged to have taken place in East Timor. As Amy Bickers reports from Jakarta, humanitarian aid officials and refugee protection experts expect more evidence to come to light as peacekeepers are able to secure more of the territory. TEXT: The allegations are horrible and sinister. Aid workers say scores of young East Timorese men who voted for independence from Indonesia in August's referendum are disappearing from refugee camps in West Timor. A boat carrying more than 30 refugees leaves port, and reportedly returns empty. An Australian aid worker says she has seen bodies piled up to the ceiling in the cells of an East Timorese police headquarters. These stories, and scores of others, are chilling. But in many cases, international peacekeepers and aid workers agree, there is so far a lack of evidence to substantiate many of the crimes. While some bodies have been found, peacekeepers have yet to uncover mass graves. J. Kelly, a specialist in refugee protection issues, says it is too early to establish the number of victims of the violence that rocked East Timor after the ballot. /// KELLY ACT /// There are a lot of reasons for why there might not be evidence, apart from (the possibility) that they did not actually happen. One is that Interfet, the multinational peacekeeping force, has not gotten out beyond Dili and Baucau, and the reports are that a lot of the massive acts of violence took place outside of those population centers and more in the villages, so obviously the jury is still out until the multinational forces can get out to those areas. /// END ACT /// Estimates on the number of dead range greatly. The Indonesian government says about 90 people perished in the bloodshed, while the United Nations says there have been up to seven-thousand deaths. Urs Boegli (prono: Orse Berglee), Spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross, says the East Timorese capital is rife with rumors about gruesome crimes perpetrated by Pro-Indonesia militias against townspeople and numerous members of the territory's Catholic clergy. He acknowledges that inspections of some of the supposed sites of mass violence in Dili have failed to yield forensic evidence. Mr. Boegli says some of those feared dead may be alive but in hiding. An unknown number of East Timorese have fled to Jakarta, Bali and other parts of Indonesia and tens of thousands remain in East Timor's hills to avoid attacks by militiamen. /// Boegli Act /// The critical path is now access to the countryside. Because there we will either be told where mass graves are or we will have a different situation. In the long term, it will be about talking to families and seeing who is missing. /// End Act /// On Sunday, a U-N aid team, under military escort, toured some of the territory's towns. Many are deserted and in ruins and aid workers say there is great concern about the residents' whereabouts. But because peacekeepers have yet to secure the vast majority of the territory and aid organizations are busy with airdrops and other forms of assistance, in- depth probes into reported killings and atrocities have yet to begin. In anticipation of that process, The Red Cross is opening tracing centers in East Timor, West Timor and across Indonesia, so that people can be accounted for and families reunited. The United Nations High Commission for Refugees is also establishing a presence in those places, and one of its mandates will be to help locate the missing. But aid workers say the process is being waylaid because they cannot gather testimony, even from refugees in camps in West Timor. Aid officials say the camps are under the militas' control, with support from the Indonesian military, and the camp residents are too frightened to speak up. Michael Frank of Catholic Relief Services says the militiamen are blocking aid workers from talking with the refugees, and have even threatened aid agency representatives who would otherwise document refugees' accounts of the violence. /// FRANK ACT /// What is scaring people is the threats they perceive by the militias. It is obvious that the militias are looking for pro- independence people. They are knocking on doors of different organizations who they suspect may be hiding these refugees. That is the fear. /// END ACT /// Mr. Kelly, the refugee protection specialist, agrees that refugees will not share their knowledge at this time. /// KELLY ACT /// People will not begin to speak out until they feel safe and with someone they trust, and that has not happened yet. /// END ACT /// Mr. Boegli of the Red Cross believes the collection of witnesses' accounts will be hampered until they are back in East Timor and under the protection of international peacekeepers. /// BOEGLI ACT /// If the refugees can come back once conditions are conducive to their return, then a clear picture will emerge, but it will emerge as a result of systematic work, of talking to hundreds of thousands of people and asking them very simple questions. Where is your family, what do you know about relatives, where are your friends? And then we will make a patchwork. /// END ACT /// International peacekeepers and aid agencies say they are unsure whether the extent of the violence has been exaggerated. But as the peacekeepers establish themselves throughout East Timor, the Red Cross says there will be more evidence of killings, particularly in towns like Liquica (prono: lee-qwee-sha) and Suai (prono: zwhy) where the militias were reportedly most vicious. (Signed) NEB/AB/FC/PLM 27-Sep-1999 05:00 AM EDT (27-Sep-1999 0900 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .





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