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DATE=9/14/1999 TYPE=CORRESPONDENT REPORT TITLE=EAST TIMOR EVACUATION Q&A NUMBER=2-253844 BYLINE=VICTOR BEATTIE & RAFEAL EPSTEIN DATELINE=DARWIN, AUSTRALIA INTERNET=YES CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: The United Nations closed its compound in the strife-torn capital of East Timor Monday. Some 13 hundred East Timorese and most of the remaining U-N staff were evacuated to Darwin, Australia. Victor Beattie of VOA NEWS NOW in Washington spoke to Rafeal Epstein, a journalist with the Australian Broadcast Corporation in Darwin about the latest on the situation. TEXT: Beattie: What is the situation with regard to the evacuation as we speak? Epstein: Well the Royal Australian Air Force calls this an "air reach," there are at least four massive Hercules transport planes undergoing at least 16 flights and they are going to bring out around 14- hundred people from Dili. That includes over one hundred U-N staff and 13 hundred refugees who were sheltering in the compound. That also means the U-N compound in Dili is now closed. Twelve military liaisons though will stay on in Dili and elsewhere. Beattie: What was the reason for the decision? Epstein: The U-N basically said security. There has been very little they've been able to do in the past 10 days. They haven't been able to get out onto the street to ascertain the situation, they haven't been able to provide humanitarian assistance, they haven't been able to gather information about what is going on all around East Timor. All they were able to do was to protect those refugees. Once they secured President B-J Habibie's assurance that those refugees would be able to come to Australia, they decided to leave. There was little they could do except to leave those 12 staff there as a symbolic presence. Beattie: Were there any direct threats to the U-N staffers, now that an international peacekeeping force had been prepared? Epstein: That was the other major factor. They didn't receive direct threats, but they certainly feared retribution and recrimination ahead of the peacekeeping force. They certainly thought they were the prime targets as the only foreigners left in East Timor for the militias to attack ahead of the peacekeeping force. And that was one of the major factors that made them decide to pull out. Beattie: A U-N spokesman just indicated to me just a few moments ago that they hope to go back soon. Epstein: There is no doubt the UNAMET staff here in Darwin, including Ian Martin and chief spokesman, David Wimhurst are absolutely itching to get back in there and complete what they call their mission. They say they were asked to set up a fledgling democracy in East Timor and they want to do more than create a fledgling democracy, they want to nurture it and ensure it remains. Beattie: I imagine they will be allowed to go back in once the international peacekeepers are on the ground. Epstein: They certainly plan to, they are certainly pushing for the peacekeeping force to happen as soon as possible, and they are certainly making preparations to go back once that the international peacekeeping force has made it safe for them to do that. Beattie: Rafeal, this again points out the front line approach that Australia is taking for this whole East Timor situation. Is Australia going to be the leading element in this peacekeeping force? Epstein: Without a doubt. Prime Minister John Howard has said Australia will command his force. Australia will provide a large number of troops on the ground. Australia is in charge of this operation. The Prime Minister has certainly been at the forefront of the APEC meeting in New Zealand, forming the alliance of friendly countries. So Australia certainly sees itself as playing a major role and Australia certainly sees this as a major regional crisis, right on its back door. NEB/GC/PLM 14-Sep-1999 02:26 AM EDT (14-Sep-1999 0626 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .





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