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Transcript: State's Rice, NSC's Smith at July 15 Briefing

(Rice is heartened by recent Lusaka peace agreement) (5370)
Washington -- U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs
Susan Rice told a press conference at the State Department July 15
that she detected progress on efforts to end the conflict in
Congo-Kinshasa during the recent meeting of the Organization of
African Unity (OAU), which she attended.
Rice told journalists that she and her delegation, which included
former National Security Adviser Anthony Lake -- who is now special
U.S. envoy to the Ethiopian-Eritrean conflict -- conducted productive
country-to-country talks, called 'bilaterals,' at the OAU conference,
held in Algiers.
Referring to a recent Congo peace agreement signed in Lusaka, she
emphasized that "now it is imperative that all of the rebels sign this
document, that they not get hung up over what are really quite mundane
protocol issues, and that they affirm their commitment to the
document."
In Algiers, she said, "I sensed among the many heads of state with
whom I had a chance to talk about the developments in Lusaka on
Saturday a genuine commitment on the part of all concerned to see this
agreement stick and to make it meaningful. There was some concern
about the fact that the rebels have not yet signed, but by no means
despair or any sense of dismissing the agreement as therefore not
being binding on the parties who had signed."
Rice was joined at the press briefing by National Security Council
Senior Director of African Affairs Gayle Smith, who also made a recent
trip to the continent.
Smith said that despite political setbacks on the continent, "we also
want to be very clear that it remains our view that there really is a
change afoot in Africa and it remains a critical moment for our
engagement."
Following is the transcript of Assistant Secretary Rice's State
Department briefing:
(begin text) 
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Office of the Spokesman
July 15, 1999
ON-THE-RECORD BRIEFING
ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR AFRICAN AFFAIRS SUSAN RICE
AND NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL SENIOR DIRECTOR 
FOR AFRICAN AFFAIRS GAYLE SMITH
ON AFRICA
Washington, D.C.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: Hello, everybody; it's been a while. I
appreciate all of you being here. We wanted to take this opportunity
to go over a number of developments that have arisen over the last
seven or eight days, and to look a bit forward as well.
Just within that brief period, we've had a number of significant
developments -- a peace agreement in Sierra Leone; an agreement in the
Congo conflict, signed by most of the belligerents, although not yet
all of the belligerents; we hope some positive developments with
respect to the Ethiopia-Eritrea conflict; as well as an important
summit of the OAU, which just concluded yesterday in Algiers, and from
which I've just returned. Of course, the Secretary's speech on Tuesday
to the NAACP, which I think reiterated and expanded upon our
substantial commitment to a new partnership, a new relationship with
Africa. Of course, looking forward, we hope that within the next
several days, if not week or so, we will have the African Growth and
Opportunity Act taken up on the House floor, and we hope [it will]
pass the House with a substantial margin.
If I might just say a few words in particular about the OAU summit and
its outcomes and where we are on some of the key conflict issues, and
then hand it over to Gayle and then, of course, take your questions.
There were a number of interesting developments at the OAU summit,
some of which you may have seen in the press. They range from what I
thought was a rather groundbreaking declaration of commitment to
exclude in future from such gatherings any governments or any leaders
that have come to power by coup or non-democratic means. That has not
been an explicit element of OAU summits present and past, and it would
be a substantial positive development in the future.
They also approved a counter-terrorism convention, a first in the OAU
context. They gave particular focus to some of the ongoing conflict
situations, expressed particular concern about Somalia. In the context
of Angola, it was very critical of Jonas Savimbi and UNITA's role in
perpetuating the conflict. They welcomed the progress and the
agreement, in fact, on Sierra Leone. I thought notably -- and perhaps
not as prominently played in our media -- was a very welcome
commendation on the part of the heads of state for the new
relationship that is emerging between the United States and Africa.
Particular reference and commendation was made of the US-Africa
Ministerial Meeting here in March, and the Secretariat of the OAU was
instructed to follow up, as were member governments, to pursue the
substantive next steps we agreed in the 13-page blueprint document
that was issued at the closing of that summit.
At the same time, the Assembly of Heads of State and Government
welcomed by name President Clinton's initiative on relieving African
debt and welcomed steps to move forward on that important subject.
We -- the delegation that I led, which consisted of State Department
officials as well as Anthony Lake, former National Security Advisor,
who has been the President's envoy on the Ethiopia-Eritrea conflict --
conducted a range of bilateral meetings with a broad spectrum of
foreign ministers and heads of state. We covered a lot of ground but
our principal focus was on the Ethiopia-Eritrea issue, and we had
substantial and very helpful deliberations with both Ethiopians and
Eritreans, with the OAU Secretariat and others who share our concern
about resolving that conflict; and separately, constructive
discussions on the Congo issue. If I might just touch on these
conflict situations briefly.
On Ethiopia and Eritrea, the OAU high-level delegation, which has been
the entity of the OAU that has been working on the Ethiopia-Eritrea
conflict for the last year, presented to the two parties a document
called "Modalities for Implementation of the OAU Framework Agreement,"
which was meant to bring greater specificity to how the OAU framework
itself, which both sides had nominally accepted, might now be brought
into force and implemented. It was notable that the two sides' initial
response to this document was a constructive and a positive one, and
now we will be working very closely with the OAU to try to follow up
as quickly as possible with the aim of trying to formalize an
agreement to these documents and then, of course, move towards a
cessation of hostilities and more detailed talks on implementation.
Obviously, we are a long way still from a formal agreement, but I
think we have reason to be encouraged at this development and we will
continue our more-than-year-long efforts to try to help bring this
dispute to a successful conclusion and a peaceful conclusion.
On the Congo I sensed among the many heads of state with whom I had a
chance to talk about the developments in Lusaka on Saturday a genuine
commitment on the part of all concerned to see this agreement stick
and to make it meaningful. There was some concern about the fact that
the rebels have not yet signed, but by no means despair or any sense
of dismissing the agreement as therefore not being binding on the
parties who had signed.
Obviously, now it is imperative that all of the rebels sign this
document, that they not get hung up over what are really quite mundane
protocol issues and that they affirm their commitment to the document.
We would find it impossible to understand if they took this
opportunity to continue to wage a battle using force when there is a
comprehensive and we think very thoughtful cease-fire agreement that
has been signed by all concerned belligerents. We certainly look to
the rebels and those that have close relationships with the rebels to
ensure that the documents are signed by all and implemented as soon as
possible.
On Sierra Leone, there again we are gratified that there is a peace
agreement that's been signed by all concerned. The challenge in the
first instance there remains implementation. And here, as in the case
of the Congo, our desire is to be as supportive as we can of efforts
to see those agreements successfully implemented.
I will pause there and hand it over to Gayle, and then look forward to
talking in further depth on this with you.
MS. SMITH: Thank you. It's nice to see everyone again. I think we were
-- or at least I was last here at the time of the US-Africa
Ministerial. Obviously, quite a lot has happened since then.
I just want to try to put the last several weeks in context and say a
few words about how we see this fitting into the President's policy
and approach towards Africa. As you know, since the beginning of this
Administration -- and particularly since the President traveled to
Africa -- he and members of his Cabinet have emphasized the importance
of long-term partnership, of African leadership and of our deep
engagement with the continent.
Obviously, during the last year, including from this room, there have
been those who have said, what happened -- there were major wars that
broke out; what happened to the renaissance and so on. I think that
while, obviously, it's important to be cautious in our presently
optimistic reading of the developments Susan just outlined, I think we
also want to be very clear that it remains our view that there really
is a change afoot in Africa and it remains a critical moment for our
engagement.
Now, that engagement has carried through on the economic front, as you
know, through the last year. Since the time of the ministerial, as
Susan mentioned, we have a major debt initiative on which the United
States took significant leadership in Cologne, which will affect
Africa enormously and which was quickly recognized by Africans for its
significance. We have movement on the African Growth and Opportunity
Act, which the Administration is fully committed to seeing passed.
Just two weeks ago, we convened here at the State Department a
preliminary meeting with the government of Angola on a bilateral
consultative commission, the aim of which is to deepen our engagement
with that government and importantly, to deal at a time in Angola's
development with key economic issues of interest to both of us.
These peace agreements in various forms that Susan has just outlined,
we see as important for a number of reasons. In Sierra Leone, in the
Congo and in the case of Eritrea and Ethiopia -- where we believe we
are seeing positive progress -- the important thing, in our view, is
not only that this points to an opportunity for the re-emergence of
peace and progress on the front of economic development, but also and
significantly in each case African regional institutions have taken
the lead, and a very significant lead. Now, this has not meant that
the US has abdicated responsibility or dropped the ball. In all three
cases, we have worked very actively and substantively with those
regional institutions.
In Sierra Leone, we have been part of the International Mediation
Committee working with ECOWAS. Reverend Jackson, Assistant Secretary
Rice and others have been directly involved. In the Congo we have been
actively involved as well with President Chiluba in his leadership of
the SADC [Southern African Development Community] Process; and as
Susan has just outlined, we have coordinated with the OAU closely
throughout the last year on Eritrea and Ethiopia.
I think that the point I'd like to make in closing and before we open
up to questions is that all of these agreements and potential
agreements are as complex as the wars that they are aiming to resolve.
I don't think any of us thinks it is, therefore, going to be clear
sailing. That said, all of the issues are above ground; there is
committed African individual leadership and institutional leadership.
I think during the last year, in particular, we have been able to
forge important, credible partnerships with those institutions to
continue working with them from this point forward and we are quite
committed to staying the course.
We're also quite committed to answering any questions you may have, so
I think I will now open up.
QUESTION: You both mentioned the Africa Growth and Opportunity Act.
Could you briefly summarize what it would do and what the prospects
are in both the House and the Senate? I understand the House vote may
take place tomorrow.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: The African Growth and Opportunity Act is
important to the Administration and very important to Africa because
it provides a critical element of the overall US-Africa economic
partnership or framework that cannot be achieved without legislation.
The most important thing that the African Growth and Opportunity Act
does is allow greater access to the American market for products of
various sorts produced in Africa. It's designed, in a nutshell, to
enable Africa to achieve a modest toe-hold in the US market in a range
of sectors -- although the one that has gotten the most attention is
textiles and apparel -- and to do so quickly. Because as in the case
of textile and apparel, [and] with other products as well, very soon
all barriers to trade internationally will come down shortly. In the
case of textiles, that will happen in the year 2005. If there is not
an opportunity for Africa to gain a toe-hold into the US market and
have the opportunity to compete not against US manufacturers --
because, for a variety of reasons, they don't compete against US
manufacturers -- but other developing country manufacturers in Asia
and elsewhere, then it will be very difficult for Africa to have that
opportunity come the year 2005.
So this legislation does a number of things. But the most important
thing that it does is increase substantially the access to the United
States market for African products being produced in countries that
are taking important and necessary reforms that their governments are
fully supportive of that, in the long term, will accelerate economic
growth and development.
Q: Could you walk us through the Ethiopia-Eritrea business? What is
different than two weeks ago? And what part does the United States
play in this -- (inaudible) -- proposal?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: What appears to be different is that while
some weeks back we had a situation where both sides had accepted in
name the OAU framework agreement but had decidedly different
interpretations of what that agreement meant, we now have the OAU
putting forward a document which is meant to state quite clearly what
is meant in terms of implementation by this framework agreement so
that there can be no remaining dispute or ambiguity about it. And
having put forward that modalities for implementation document, it
seems that both sides -- based on what is a clear-cut document -- are
reacting positively and constructively. That is something potentially
very significant.
The US role, from going back to May of last year, has been very active
and very instrumental. I won't go back over the whole year's -- or 14
months' worth of effort, but suffice it to say that in the last
several months, we have been very much involved as a government and
with the two parties to the conflict. Former National Security Advisor
Anthony Lake has made four trips to the region, which followed on our
earlier two trips to the region and the brokering of the air strike
moratorium last summer.
Since the conflict began, we've stayed in close touch with both
parties and have been working very closely with the OAU and the United
Nations in order to press both sides to accept the OAU framework and
to eliminate any ambiguities or any disputes, any barriers to its
implementation.
This last document that the OAU put forward was the product of long,
hard work on the part of the OAU as well as the United States and
involving the United Nations and members of the European Union. We are
all together, I believe, in the international community, behind this
document. The OAU, heads of state and government fully endorsed it and
now it's incumbent upon the parties to move to implement it. We want
to remain as supportive as we get to, we hope, a stage of signing and
implementation as we have been to date.
Q: Does the document resolve the border dispute?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: You mean the question of where the border
actually is?
Q: Yes.
ASSISTANT SECRTARY RICE: No, that has never been the intent of the OAU
or any other mediation effort. In fact, both sides have agreed from
the very early days that the determination of where the actual border
lies is a technical matter that would be accomplished through a formal
process of delimitation and demarcation by the United Nations.
One of the ironies is that the end-state has always been accepted;
it's been a question of how we get to the end-state. That is more what
these documents are about.
Q: (Inaudible) -- just the status of how much there is and how much
the US is -- what the current US position is on how much --
MS. SMITH: The bilateral concessional debt forgiveness in the last
couple of years alone has been in the range of $500 million, give and
take.
I think the most significant thing is the Cologne debt initiative,
which calls for a number of things. One is a new focus on poverty; in
other words, it calls on the International Financial Institutions to
develop a framework whereby debt relief and poverty reduction are
focused on spending in the social sectors, AIDS prevention, so on and
so forth.
This is a point, by the way, that has resonated in Africa. In fact,
one of the prominent speakers at the OAU summit, President Obasanjo of
Nigeria, referred specifically to the importance, in his view, of the
need for African governments to pursue development initiatives and
manage debt at the same time.
It calls also for substantially deeper relief -- a reduction of up to
70 percent of the total debts for the countries that would qualify,
the majority of which are in Africa. Debt relief that would be faster
both by providing early cash-flow relief for a sort of interim relief
package and by allowing earlier stock reduction, and the number of
countries qualifying under HPIC -- the Heavily Indebted Poor Countries
Initiative -- would be increased from 26 to 33.
Now, we, as you know, took an important leading role in putting
together this initiative. We are hopeful that we will see as much
support as possible for this initiative from the Congress. The
President is quite committed to doing what we can to keep debt relief
a high priority for the Administration in Africa and other poor
countries affected by it.
Q: Sierra Leone. There are reports from human rights groups that they
are quite unhappy with the peace deal because it reportedly says that
the guerrillas there or the militias will be sort of excused from
their human rights abuses -- the slaughtering that they did there. I
wanted you all to speak to that. And also, Jesse Jackson, I think the
other day, has complained that while the US is spending billions of
dollars for reconstruction programs for Kosovo, they're not doing the
same thing for Sierra Leone. So I'd like to know, is there going to be
some type of a reconstruction program for Sierra Leone -- not just a
debt forgiveness, but a reconstruction program?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: The view of the United States is that the
most important and meaningful way to end the atrocities in Sierra
Leone, which have concerned us greatly and which we have condemned on
multiple occasions, is to bring about a lasting peace in Sierra Leone.
That, too, is what the people of Sierra Leone themselves most want,
and that is what their leaders have agreed to.
The amnesty provisions in the Sierra Leone peace agreement are of a
domestic nature. They do not in any way obviate the interest of the
international community in seeing that crimes against humanity,
wherever they may occur, are dealt with in an appropriate fashion.
We want to see this agreement succeed, and we are prepared to provide
appropriate support for its implementation. In particular, we are
looking forward to seeing the Truth and Reconciliation Commission,
which is envisioned in the agreement stood up and running and made
credible. This Truth and Reconciliation Commission can provide a forum
for dealing with issues of impunity and aim to break the cycle of
violence and give both victims and perpetrators of atrocities in
Sierra Leone the opportunity to establish the truth about what
happened and to decide on appropriate steps in accordance with the
truth as discovered.
Obviously, if this peace agreement fails to meet its objectives --
including the aspirations of the people of Sierra Leone for peace as
well as for justice -- then we and others in the international
community will want to look at what further next steps are
appropriate. But as I said at the outset, our view is that the best
guarantee of an end to the atrocities and reconciliation in Sierra
Leone is for this agreement to succeed.
Finally, let me say what I hope is well-understood, if not obvious,
that we continue to be wholly committed -- speaking from the
perspective of the United States -- to the pursuit of accountability
for serious violations of international humanitarian law everywhere in
the world; and Sierra Leone is by no means an exception.
With respect to the reconstruction/rehabilitation process, the United
States will want to play an important role in the context of others in
the international community in helping Sierra Leone get back on its
feet. UNDP was present throughout the negotiating process to show the
international community's commitment to this. We and others see the
challenge of demilitarization, disarmament, demobilization as being
one of the most pressing challenges in Sierra Leone and we hope to be
able to contribute constructively to that, as well as to the other
post-conflict peace-building challenges. Anything else on that?
MS. SMITH: I would just add one point on this because I think, again,
it's important to put your question into context. Long before Kosovo,
it was recognized that the international community, including the
United States, had under-invested in and under-engaged with Africa.
The President's policy has been predicated on the need to rectify that
and put a foundation in place to do so. He and his Cabinet have been
aggressively doing that whether it be by calling consistently for an
increase in aid to Africa and pledging to restore aid to historic high
levels; by working aggressively through signing trade agreements;
appointing an African trade representative in the Office of the US
Trade Representative and pursuing trade agreements; encouraging
greater US investment in Africa; giving greater prominence to the
African voice and representation in international fora -- any number
of vehicles for addressing what is a fundamental underlying problem.
As in the case of Kosovo, the United States is not going to be the
only member of the international community responding to Sierra Leone.
As Susan points out, our response has and will be comprehensive. We
are the leading donor of humanitarian assistance and have been so. I
need to check this figure definitively, but I believe that -- it's
over $55 million this year and it was well over that last year -- this
year is not over. We've begun to look at the issue of refugees and so
on and so forth. We intend to respond in a forward-leaning manner and
I think, importantly, in a comprehensive manner -- looking not only at
how we can help consolidate the peace agreement, but how we can help
people return their lives to normal; invest increasingly on the
humanitarian front, but also help that country get back on a solid
economic footing.
MS. SMITH: Is this on Sierra Leone?
Q: No, I wanted to follow up on that; not necessarily on Sierra Leone.
I went to something a couple of weeks ago where a number of African
ambassadors spoke and they were asked what they felt was the most
serious problem in their countries. This is not one of these countries
where they've just recently had civil wars. They said that their most
serious problem was AIDS -- that it was not being addressed adequately
either by their governments nor, they felt, by the outside community.
And they desperately needed help for the programs not only to teach
people about it, but medication. Is this being addressed in an
aggressive way?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: As you may have noticed, Secretary Albright
put particular emphasis on the HIV/AIDS pandemic in her remarks on
Tuesday. She did so because we share the recognition that that is the
most pressing critical problem facing Africa. The United States has
been the leading international donor for many years in combating
HIV/AIDS but I think we recognize and the President recognizes that we
can and we must do more. That is why the President's AIDS czar, Sandy
Thurman, has taken more than three trips in the last year to Africa to
look into this issue. She is presenting to the President a series of
recommendations to enhance our efforts to respond to the AIDS crisis,
and we look very much forward to support in Congress to substantially
enhance our contribution to this.
Q: In her remarks to the NAACP, the Secretary outlined the duties or
the assignment of the special envoy on Sudan. They apparently don't
include going to Khartoum for direct bilateral negotiations. Would you
talk a little bit about the rationale for that? And what is the
dynamic now of the Sudan process?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: First of all, this envoy will not be
responsible for our bilateral relationship with Khartoum. This is not
an effort to inject a new personality in our still quite serious and
troubled relationship with the government of Khartoum -- a
relationship that remains so because of Khartoum's support for
terrorism, its massive human rights abuses and its efforts to
destabilize its neighbors.
The purpose of this envoy will be three-fold: first, to draw what we
think is badly needed attention to the humanitarian crisis that
persists in Sudan and to martial concerted international support for
an effective humanitarian response. The crisis goes in waves and press
attention goes in waves but, in fact, the needs are consistent, and we
want to address them as such.
Secondly, on the human rights side, the government in Khartoum is
perhaps the world's most egregious abuser of human rights, whether it
be slavery or religious persecution or the tremendous, horrible
manifestations of this conflict on the people of Sudan -- aerial
bombing of hospitals and the like. This envoy will not only shine the
spotlight on those concerns, but also try to martial greater
international concern and consciousness about these problems and
perhaps concerted international action as a result.
Thirdly, to reinforce our support for the IGAD [Intergovernmental
Authority on Development] peace process -- this is a regional peace
process led by Kenya. We view this process as vital; as central to all
efforts to resolve the war in Sudan and the individual very much under
the umbrella of IGAD and in concert with our partners in IGAD and in
Europe, who are supporting the peace process, to maximize its
effectiveness. The IGAD talks will resume next week in Nairobi. For
the first time in a while, I had the opportunity for extensive
conversations with the Kenyan Foreign Minister in Algiers whose
government is leading this effort on the need to invigorate the IGAD
process and on the substantive steps that we hope can come out of this
next round of talks.
Why don't I just say one thing, Tom, in addition to that. Obviously,
for an envoy to maximize his or her effectiveness on all three of
those areas of interest, it may be appropriate at times for that envoy
to have dialogue with Khartoum. But that is not on the bilateral
relationship; it would be in support of pursuing the agenda on those
three areas.
Q: Could you sort of bring us up to date as to what is the bilateral
relationship with Sudan? I mean, you said it was troubled and serious;
but I think since the US bombed the pharmaceutical plant in Sudan, the
Sudanese diplomats here left. I think they're still gone. Has anything
moved?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: That's basically a year ago. Not much at all
has changed in our relationship with Sudan. The fundamental issues
that cause us concern remain and, therefore, our policy towards Sudan
has not changed. As I said, we remain deeply concerned about Sudan's
continued support for terrorism; its egregious human rights
violations; its efforts to destabilize its neighbors; and the
continuation of the deadliest civil war in the world.
We have maintained diplomatic relations with Khartoum. They removed
their diplomats from Washington voluntarily; we did not ask them to
leave. They are welcome to come back if and when they choose. We do
not and have not for several years had a full-time diplomatic presence
in Khartoum for security reasons. And in the wake of the bombing of
Al-Shifa those security concerns have not yet been mitigated.
Q: Is there sort of a way out of this?
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: Yes, the way out is when the government of
Khartoum fundamentally changes its behavior.
Q: For both of you ladies -- how does the situation in the Congo and
the situation in neighboring Sudan threaten or does it threaten to
destabilize neighboring countries, such as Nigeria; and how is Nigeria
doing?
MS. SMITH: I think we've seen from the war in the Congo, the conflict
in Sierra Leone, the conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia that these
wars obviously do have the capacity to destabilize countries, or at
least have a very negative impact on their neighborhoods. Congo
happens to have more participants than almost any conflict we've ever
seen in Africa. One of the very positive things, though, now is that
what you have is countries that were, 18 months ago, close allies on
the economic and political fronts re-engaging as allies once again to
bring about a solution.
On Nigeria, it has been about six weeks since we attended the
inauguration there. There have been some extremely important and
dramatic steps made by the new government to address some fundamental
issues that have destabilized that country over the years, including
to tackle corruption, the government took the approach of canceling a
number of contracts to be re-examined. They have retired a significant
number of people from the military; begun the process of taking a new
look at their economy and how it can run more effectively and with
less corruption. Significantly, President -- (inaudible) -- has
already played an important role in the Sierra Leone peace process. As
a prominent country in the region, he was very active and, again,
played a very prominent role.
So I would say that the transition there is going well. It is a very
difficult one. We just had an inter-agency team return from Nigeria.
It represented, I believe, eight US Government agencies to take a
serious look at how we begin to put together our strategy for
engagement with that government and the people of Nigeria, to do our
best to make the transition a full success.
Q: Was that election popular and democratic, fair and square?
MS. SMITH: I think the findings of the observers -- I don't know that
I can recall the exact quote -- was that there were some
irregularities in the election, but on balance they did not find that
it affected the ultimate outcome.
ASSISTANT SECRETARY RICE: And it reflected the will of the people of
Nigeria.
Q: Thank you very much.
(end transcript)



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