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DATE=5/17/99 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT NUMBER=5-43420 TITLE=KHMER ROUGE TRIBUNAL BYLINE=STEPHANIE MANN DATELINE=WASHINGTON CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: THE CAMBODIAN GOVERNMENT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH PLANS TO PUT ON TRIAL FORMER KHMER ROUGE LEADERS FOR THEIR PART IN THE DEATHS OF MILLIONS OF CAMBODIANS DURING THE 1970'S. THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS QUESTIONING WHETHER A TRIAL INSIDE CAMBODIA WILL MEET MINIMUM STANDARDS OF JUSTICE. IN THIS REPORT, V-O-A'S STEPHANIE MANN LOOKS AT THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN INTERNATIONALLY CREDIBLE TRIBUNAL. TEXT: AN ESTIMATED TWO MILLION CAMBODIANS DIED -- BY EXECUTION, STARVATION OR FORCED LABOR -- WHEN THE KHMER ROUGE WAS IN POWER IN THE LATE 1970'S. SO FAR, TWO FORMER LEADERS HAVE BEEN CHARGED AND AWAIT TRIAL IN CONNECTION WITH THOSE CRIMES. THEY ARE MILITARY CHIEF TA MOK AND THE SO-CALLED CHIEF EXECUTIONER, KANK KEK IEU, ALSO KNOWN AS DUCH (DOOK) WHO WAS HEAD OF THE TUOL SLENG PRISON. JUDICIAL AUTHORITIES ARE CONSIDERING WHETHER TO FILE CHARGES AGAINST OTHER FORMER KHMER ROUGE LEADERS. AT FIRST, THE UNITED NATIONS CALLED FOR AN INTERNATIONAL TRIBUNAL, SAYING CAMBODIA'S JUDICIAL SYSTEM IS NOT CAPABLE OF HOLDING REALLY FAIR AND JUST TRIALS. MORE RECENTLY, THE U-N SECRETARY GENERAL'S SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE TO CAMBODIA, THOMAS HAMMARBERG SAID THE UNITED NATIONS IS WILLING TO HELP THE CAMBODIAN GOVERNMENT PROSECUTE KHMER ROUGE LEADERS IF THE PROCESS CAN MEET STANDARDS OF FAIRNESS AND JUSTICE. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS ALSO CONCERNED. NEAL KATYAL, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR TO THE DEPUTY U-S ATTORNEY GENERAL (ERIC HOLDER), SAYS PROTECTION OF TRIAL PARTICIPANTS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. // KATYAL ACT ONE // WE'RE FRANKLY QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE SAFETY OF WITNESSES, THE SAFETY OF EVEN THE DEFENDANTS, AND THE JUDGES AND PROSECUTORS AND THE OTHERS THAT WOULD TAKE (PART) IN ANY KIND OF A TRIAL. // END ACT // MR. KATYAL SAYS ANOTHER CONCERN IS THAT CAMBODIA, AS A NEW DEMOCRACY, LACKS THE JUDICIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND LONGSTANDING COMMITMENT TO RULE OF LAW THAT IS NECESSARY FOR SUCH AN IMPORTANT TRIAL. AND HE PREFERS A COURT PROCEEDING HELD OUTSIDE CAMBODIA. // KATYAL ACT TWO // WHENEVER YOU ARE CONSIDERING SOMETHING LIKE A MAJOR TRIAL, IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO HAVE LONG ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES IN PLACE -- PROCEDURES THAT CAN'T BE QUESTIONED FOR BEING MADE UP AS A TRIAL GOES ALONG, FOR BEING AD HOC, AND SO ON. THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY HAS SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THESE KINDS OF TRIALS, RULES OF EVIDENCE, WHAT CAN BE SAID, OPENING STATEMENTS, THE WAY WITNESSES SHOULD BE HANDLED, AND SO ON. WE HAVE A LONG TRADITION OF TRYING TO DO JUSTICE IN AN INTERNATIONAL FORUM. // END ACT // SUCH CONCERNS ARE SHARED BY DINAH POKEMPNER, THE DEPUTY GENERAL COUNSEL OF HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH, A NEW YORK BASED HUMAN RIGHTS MONITORING GROUP. MS. POKEMPNER SAYS THERE ARE SERIOUS DOUBTS ABOUT THE INDEPENDENCE OF CAMBODIA'S JUDICIARY. // POKEMPNER ACT ONE // WHILE INDEPENDENCE IS STIPULATED IN CAMBODIAN LAW, IT IS FAR FROM THE FACT. THE JUDICIARY, SUCH AS IT IS, HAS BEEN COBBLED TOGETHER SINCE THE KHMER ROUGE YEARS. IT IS POLITICALLY APPOINTED. MANY JUDGES ARE NOT FULLY LITERATE. THEY ARE VERY MUCH BEHOLDEN AND ALSO AT THE MERCY OF LOCAL POLITICAL AND MILITARY LEADERS. SO, THERE IS NO PATTERN, NO TRADITION, AND NO PROTECTION FOR A TRULY INDEPENDENT TRIAL. // END ACT // MS. POKEMPNER SAYS PRIME MINISTER HUN SEN'S DECISION TO HOLD THE TRIALS IN A MILITARY COURT FURTHER CALLS INTO QUESTION THE CREDIBILITY OF THE PROCESS. SHE SAYS A MILITARY COURT IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE VENUE, BECAUSE THE CRIMES WERE NOT MILITARY OFFENSES BUT -- IN HER WORDS -- CRIMES THAT OFFEND HUMANITY WORLDWIDE. MS. POKEMPNER SAYS CAMBODIANS NEED TO SEE SOMEONE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. // OPT // AND SHE DISMISSES SUGGESTIONS THAT CAMBODIA FOLLOW SOUTH AFRICA'S MODEL OF CONVENING A TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COMMISSION TO DEAL WITH ITS PAST ATROCITIES. // POKEMPNER ACT TWO // // OPT // THE REASON THAT THE SOUTH AFRICAN TRUTH COMMISSION IS SUCCESSFUL IN SOME DEGREE IS BECAUSE IT OPERATES IN A CONTEXT WHERE THOSE WHO DON'T COOPERATE CAN BE TRIED. THERE IS A THREAT OF JUSTICE HANGING IN THE BACKGROUND. // END OPT // CAMBODIA, I HAVE TO SAY, OF ALL COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, IS PRACTICALLY A MODEL FOR THE CULTURE OF IMPUNITY. SIMPLY FINDING OUT WHAT HAPPENED IS NOT THE ISSUE IN CAMBODIA. ... PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED THROUGH (THE ORDEAL) KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT IS IN COMPLETE LACK, WHAT'S IN NO SUPPLY, IS JUSTICE AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENED. WHAT RANKLES CAMBODIANS IS THAT THEY ARE LIVING SIDE BY SIDE WITH THEIR TORTURERS, NOT THAT THEY'RE IN IGNORANCE OF HOW IT CAME TO BE. // END ACT // PRIME MINISTER HUN SEN SAYS CAMBODIA'S COURT SYSTEM -- WITH HELP FROM THE OUTSIDE-- WILL BE ABLE TO CONDUCT TRIALS THAT MEET INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS. HE IS INTRODUCING LEGISLATION IN THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY THAT WOULD ALLOW FOREIGN PARTICIPATION IN CAMBODIAN COURTS. NEAL KATYAL SAYS THERE ARE MANY FOREIGN LEGAL EXPERTS IN THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES WILLING TO HELP CAMBODIA CONDUCT A FAIR TRIBUNAL, BUT HE SAYS THEY ARE NOT YET SURE EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF HELP HUN SEN MAY WANT. // KATYAL ACT THREE // WE AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ARE FULLY PREPARED TO HELP IN ANY WAY THAT COULD EXPEDITE A PEACEFUL AND JUST RESOLUTION. THAT MIGHT MEAN, FOR EXAMPLE, SENDING PROSECUTORS OUT TO CAMBODIA TO ACTUALLY HELP IN THE TRIAL OF THE CASE. I, MYSELF, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PROSECUTORS HAVE ALREADY DEVELOPED A FAIR AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY INDIVIDUALS AT ISSUE IN THE FORMER KHMER ROUGE, AND WE ARE READY TO HELP ANY TRIBUNAL AND TURN THAT DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE OVER TO PROSECUTORS IN AN EFFORT TO HELP THE JUST RESOLUTION. // END ACT // DINAH POKEMPNER SAYS A FEW FOREIGN PROSECUTORS OR EVEN THE HELP OF FOREIGN JUDGES MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO INSULATE THE TRIALS FROM POLITICAL INFLUENCE. SHE SAYS IT MAY SIMPLY PUT THE CAMBODIAN PARTICIPANTS, ESPECIALLY PROSECUTORS AND JUDGES, IN AN EVEN MORE POLITICALLY SENSITIVE POSITION. (SIGNED) NEB/SMN/KL 17-May-99 12:43 PM EDT (1643 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America .





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