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Hrg. 112-590, Pt. 1 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM ======================================================================= HEARINGS before the COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON S. 3254 TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 FOR MILITARY ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, AND FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, TO PRESCRIBE MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES ---------- PART 1 MILITARY POSTURE U.S. PACIFIC COMMAND AND U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND U.S. EUROPEAN COMMAND AND U.S. AFRICA COMMAND U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY U.S. SOUTHERN COMMAND AND U.S. NORTHERN COMMAND DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND AND U.S. CYBER COMMAND ---------- FEBRUARY 14, 28; MARCH 1, 6, 8, 13, 15, 20, 27, 2012 Printed for the use of the Committee on Armed Services DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM--Part 1 MILITARY POSTURE b U.S. PACIFIC COMMAND AND U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND b U.S. EUROPEAN COMMAND AND U.S. AFRICA COMMAND b U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND b DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY b U.S. SOUTHERN COMMAND AND U.S. NORTHERN COMMAND b DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY b DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE b U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND AND U.S. CYBER COMMAND S. Hrg. 112-590, Pt. 1 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM ======================================================================= HEARINGS before the COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION ON S. 3254 TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 FOR MILITARY ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, AND FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, TO PRESCRIBE MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES __________ PART 1 MILITARY POSTURE U.S. PACIFIC COMMAND AND U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND U.S. EUROPEAN COMMAND AND U.S. AFRICA COMMAND U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY U.S. SOUTHERN COMMAND AND U.S. NORTHERN COMMAND DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND AND U.S. CYBER COMMAND __________ FEBRUARY 14, 28; MARCH 1, 6, 8, 13, 15, 20, 27, 2012 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Armed Services Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.fdsys.gov/ ? U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 76-537 WASHINGTON : 2013 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, http://bookstore.gpo.gov. For more information, contact the GPO Customer Contact Center, U.S. Government Printing Office. Phone 202-512-1800, or 866-512-1800 (toll-free). E-mail, gpo@custhelp.com. COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES CARL LEVIN, Michigan, Chairman JOSEPH I. LIEBERMAN, Connecticut JOHN McCAIN, Arizona JACK REED, Rhode Island JAMES M. INHOFE, Oklahoma DANIEL K. AKAKA, Hawaii JEFF SESSIONS, Alabama E. BENJAMIN NELSON, Nebraska SAXBY CHAMBLISS, Georgia JIM WEBB, Virginia ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi CLAIRE McCASKILL, Missouri SCOTT P. BROWN, Massachusetts MARK UDALL, Colorado ROB PORTMAN, Ohio KAY R. HAGAN, North Carolina KELLY AYOTTE, New Hampshire MARK BEGICH, Alaska SUSAN M. COLLINS, Maine JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia LINDSEY GRAHAM, South Carolina JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire JOHN CORNYN, Texas KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York DAVID VITTER, Louisiana RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut Richard D. DeBobes, Staff Director Ann E. Sauer, Minority Staff Director (ii) C O N T E N T S ---------- CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES Military Posture february 14, 2012 Page ................................................................. Panetta, Hon. Leon, Secretary of Defense; Accompanied by Robert F. Hale, Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller).............. 12 Dempsey, GEN Martin E., USA, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff..... 26 U.S. Pacific Command and U.S. Transportation Command february 28, 2012 Willard, ADM Robert F., USN, Commander, U.S. Pacific Command..... 172 Fraser, Gen. William M., III, USAF, Commander, U.S. Transportation Command......................................... 182 U.S. European Command and U.S. Africa Command march 1, 2012 Stavridis, ADM James G., USN, Commander, U.S. European Command/ Supreme Allied Commander, Europe............................... 272 Ham, GEN Carter F., USA, Commander, U.S. Africa Command.......... 324 U.S. Central Command and U.S. Special Operations Command march 6, 2012 Mattis, Gen. James N., USMC, Commander, U.S. Central Command..... 394 McRaven, ADM William H. McRaven, USN, Commander, U.S. Special Operations Command............................................. 404 Department of the Army march 8, 2012 McHugh, Hon. John M., Secretary of the Army...................... 468 Odierno, GEN Raymond T., USA, Chief of Staff of the Army......... 504 U.S. Southern Command and U.S. Northern Command march 13, 2012 Fraser, Gen. Douglas M., USAF, Commander, U.S. Southern Command.. 608 Jacoby, GEN Charles H., Jr., USA, Commander, U.S. Northern Command/Commander, North American Aerospace Defense Command 625 Department of the Navy march 15, 2012 Mabus, Hon. Raymond E., Jr., Secretary of the Navy............... 686 Greenert, ADM Jonathan W., USN, Chief of Naval Operations........ 703 Amos, Gen. James F., USMC, Commandant of the Marine Corps........ 717 Department of the Air Force march 20, 2012 Donley, Hon. Michael B., Secretary of the U.S. Air Force......... 842 Schwartz, Gen. Norton A., USAF, Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force.......................................................... 845 U.S. Strategic Command and U.S. Cyber Command march 27, 2012 Kehler, Gen. C. Robert, USAF, Commander, U.S. Strategic Defense.. 948 Alexander, GEN Keith B., USA, Commander, U.S. Cyber Command, and Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Central Security Service........................................................ 962 DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM ---------- TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2012 U.S. Senate, Committee on Armed Services, Washington, DC. MILITARY POSTURE The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:33 a.m. in room SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Carl Levin (chairman) presiding. Committee members present: Senators Levin, Lieberman, Reed, Akaka, Nelson, Webb, McCaskill, Udall, Hagan, Begich, Manchin, Shaheen, Gillibrand, Blumenthal, McCain, Inhofe, Chambliss, Wicker, Brown, Portman, Ayotte, Collins, Graham, Cornyn, and Vitter. Committee staff members present: Richard D. DeBobes, staff director; Leah C. Brewer, nominations and hearings clerk; and Travis E. Smith, special assistant. Majority staff members present: Jonathan D. Clark, counsel; Jonathan S. Epstein, counsel; Richard W. Fieldhouse, professional staff member; Jessica L. Kingston, research assistant; Michael J. Kuiken, professional staff member; Gerald J. Leeling, counsel; Peter K. Levine, general counsel; Thomas K. McConnell, professional staff member; William G.P. Monahan, counsel; Michael J. Noblet, professional staff member; Roy F. Phillips, professional staff member; John H. Quirk V, professional staff member; Robie I. Samanta Roy, professional staff member; Russell L. Shaffer, counsel; and William K. Sutey, professional staff member. Minority staff members present: Adam J. Barker, professional staff member; Pablo E. Carrillo, minority investigative counsel; Paul C. Hutton IV, professional staff member; Daniel A. Lerner, professional staff member; Elizabeth C. Lopez, research assistant; Lucian L. Niemeyer, professional staff member; Christopher J. Paul, professional staff member; Michael J. Sistak, research assistant; and Diana G. Tabler, professional staff member. Staff assistants present: Jennifer R. Knowles, Mariah K. McNamara, Brian F. Sebold, and Bradley S. Watson. Committee members' assistants present: Jeff Greene, assistant to Senator Lieberman; Carolyn Chuhta, assistant to Senator Reed; Nick Ikeda, assistant to Senator Akaka; Ann Premer, assistant to Senator Nelson; Gordon Peterson, assistant to Senator Webb; Jason Rauch, assistant to Senator McCaskill; Casey Howard, assistant to Senator Udall; Lindsay Kavanaugh, assistant to Senator Begich; Mara Boggs, assistant to Senator Manchin; Ethan Saxon, assistant to Senator Blumenthal; Anthony Lazarski, assistant to Senator Inhofe; Lenwood Landrum, assistant to Senator Sessions; Tyler Stephens and Clyde Taylor IV, assistants to Senator Chambliss; Joseph Lai, assistant to Senator Wicker; Charles Prosch, assistant to Senator Brown; Brad Bowman and John Easton, assistants to Senator Ayotte; Ryan Kaldahl, assistant to Senator Collins; Sergio Sarkany, assistant to Senator Graham; Dave Hanke, assistant to Senator Cornyn; and Charles Brittingham, assistant to Senator Vitter. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR CARL LEVIN, CHAIRMAN Chairman Levin. Good morning, everybody. The committee this morning welcomes the Secretary of Defense, Leon E. Panetta, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin E. Dempsey, USA, for our hearing on the Department of Defense (DOD) fiscal year 2013 budget request, the associated Future Years Defense Program (FYDP), and the posture of the U.S. Armed Forces. The committee also welcomes the Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller), Robert F. Hale, who has joined the Secretary and the Chairman at the witness table. Let me start by thanking all of you for your continued service to our Nation and to the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines here at home and in harm's way around the globe, and to their families. They are truly deserving of the Nation's affection and support. Your testimony today marks the beginning of the committee's review of the fiscal year 2013 budget request for DOD. This year's request includes $525 billion for the base budget and $88.4 billion for overseas contingency operations (OCO). The fiscal year 2013 base budget request is $5 billion less than the fiscal year 2012 enacted level of $530 billion, and the OCO request is $27 billion less than last year's enacted level of $115 billion. The fiscal year 2013 budget conforms with the Budget Control Act (BCA) that Congress passed last summer. The Senate approved the BCA on a bipartisan basis, with 74 Senators voting for it. The BCA locked in defense and non-defense discretionary spending caps over 10 years. The defense caps reduced projected defense spending by nearly half a trillion dollars over 10 years, and DOD responded with a new strategy and a new program to meet the Nation's security challenges and preserve our military capabilities. The BCA also included language requiring Congress to pass legislation with additional far-reaching deficit reductions. If Congress does not come up with a deficit reduction package by next January, one that locks in another $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years, then automatic spending cuts, called ``sequestration,'' will be imposed on both defense and non-defense programs. The budget the President sent us yesterday avoids sequestration by meeting the $1.2 trillion additional deficit reduction target, approximately one-half in further cuts in spending and one-half in additional revenues. The defense budget request for fiscal year 2013 not only conforms to the funding limits of the congressionally-mandated BCA, it also reflects the results of DOD's comprehensive and inclusive strategic review initiated by President Obama in April last year and the strategic guidance that resulted. We look forward to the witnesses' explanation of the process that they went through to develop the new Defense Strategic Guidance, their assessment of this guidance's most important features and potential risks relative to the current and anticipated strategic environment, and how this budget request supports its strategic priorities and manages strategic risk in the near- and long-terms. The administration has called for two more base realignment and closure (BRAC) rounds. In my view, however, before we consider another round of BRAC, DOD ought to take a hard look at whether further reductions in bases can be made overseas, particularly in Europe. While DOD has announced the removal of two of the four combat brigades currently stationed in Europe, even after the brigades are withdrawn there will still be over 70,000 U.S. military personnel deployed in Europe. Finding further reductions and consolidations in our overseas force posture should be our first priority before another BRAC round. The fiscal year 2013 defense budget request reflects the continuing conflict in Afghanistan, but also reflects the fact that the process of transition has begun and continues apace. Afghan security forces (ASF) are assuming responsibility for securing the Afghan people in more and more areas throughout Afghanistan. Progress on security is real. A second round of areas to be transitioned to an ASF lead will be completed later this year. Then approximately 50 percent of the Afghan population will live in areas where ASF have the lead for providing security, with coalition forces playing a supporting role. I have long-pressed for ASF to move increasingly into the combat lead and to assume responsibility for securing more and more Afghan territory and communities as the size and capabilities of the Afghan National Army (ANA) and Afghan National Police (ANP) are built up. The success of our mission in Afghanistan depends on getting the ASF in the lead, with the support of the Afghan people, thereby putting the lie to the Taliban propaganda that the coalition is an occupying force. The Afghan Foreign Ministry spokesman recently made clear there was full agreement on transition, saying: ``We have always maintained that Afghan security is an Afghan responsibility.'' Last June, President Obama said that the 33,000 U.S. surge force would be removed from Afghanistan by the end of this summer. That means that 68,000 U.S. troops would remain in Afghanistan after the drawdown of the surge. He also said that after the reduction of the U.S. surge force, U.S. troops will continue to draw down ``at a steady pace.'' Yet the fiscal year 2013 OCO budget request now before Congress is based on an assumption that there are no additional reductions in the 68,000 troop level in Afghanistan throughout all of fiscal year 2013. The question that I hope our witnesses will address this morning is whether they expect further reductions in U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan during fiscal year 2013 below 68,000 and what associated cost savings would result. If that decision has not yet been made by the President, what is the timetable for its being made? I also hope Secretary Panetta will clarify his surprising statements earlier this month that, ``Our goal is to complete all of the transition to a training, advisory, and assistance role in 2013,'' and that he said, ``Hopefully by the mid- to latter-part of 2013, we will be able to make a transition from a combat role.'' There are many reports about reconciliation talks with the Taliban. If Taliban statements are true that they will open a political office in Qatar, it would have the potential to be a positive development. I am concerned, however, by reports that in exchange for the opening of this office, the administration is considering transferring five Afghan Taliban detainees from the Guantanamo detention facility to Qatar. Such a significant step strikes me as premature and should be considered, in my view, only following positive discussions and not preceding them. Another concern I have regarding the progress of the reconciliation talks is the reported decision by the Government of Afghanistan to open a second channel in the dialogue with the Taliban that would be in Saudi Arabia. It seems to me that this would create the potential for confusion. The United States has said it is committed to an Afghan-led reconciliation process. That is another reason that the discussion process ought to be pursued through a single channel, with both the Afghan Government and with us, fully coordinated and participating together, whether it takes place in one or two venues. With respect to the realignment of U.S. marines on Okinawa, Senator McCain, Senator Webb, and I have advocated changes in the current plan in ways that support the strategic goals of the U.S. regional military posture while avoiding excessive and unsustainable costs associated with large and elaborate new bases. The announcement last week that the United States and Japan are reconsidering elements of the plan is welcome news, but the steps are not yet adequate. There are other challenges, of course. There is strong bipartisan determination on this committee and in Congress to do all we can to counter the threat that Iran poses, including stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. President Obama has focused considerable diplomatic effort towards that goal because, in his words, ``America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. And I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal.'' The administration is bringing the world together, as it should, to speak with one voice against Iran's nuclear ambitions. Relative to Egypt, the decades-old relationship between the United States and Egypt is under strain. In recent days, General Dempsey traveled to Cairo to engage the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces of Egypt on the very troubling decision by the Egyptians to charge 19 Americans and dozens of other individuals for operating programs in support of Egyptian civil society. The committee is eager to learn the findings of General Dempsey's visit because the decision by the Egyptians, if unresolved, will negatively affect funding decisions that Congress makes in the coming months. Relative to Syria, the regime of President Al-Assad is waging war on the people of Syria and, despite the condemnation of the Arab League and almost all nations, China and Russia are preventing the United Nations (U.N.) Security Council from taking any effective action. If the situation is left as it is, there is also a significant threat that surrounding countries could be severely impacted. Our witnesses will, hopefully, discuss options that we have to help end the slaughter, as limited as those options might be. On cybersecurity, the Defense Strategic Guidance notes that both state and non-state actors pose the capability and intent to conduct cyber espionage and the capability to conduct cyber attacks on the United States, with possibly severe effects on both our economy and our security. The Director of National Intelligence (DNI) in recent Senate testimony placed the cybersecurity threat in the top tier alongside terrorism and nuclear proliferation and other proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. A recent report from the National Counter-Intelligence Executive stated that entities operating from within China and Russia are responsible for the massive theft of U.S. commercial and military technology that could threaten our national security and our economy. We should let China and Russia know in no uncertain terms that cyber economic espionage will have very negative consequences for normal trade relations and other relations. Finally, in the area of personnel, DOD proposes numerous personnel-related reforms aimed at slowing the increase in personnel and health care costs, which continue to rise at unsustainable rates. These reforms include a significant reduction in military end strength over the next 5 years, other personnel-related reforms, and a commission to review military retirement benefits. I agree with General Dempsey, Admiral Winnefeld, the Service Chiefs, and the Services' senior enlisted advisers, who urged me in a letter dated January 25, 2011, to grandfather the retirement benefits of those currently serving. We owe it to our servicemembers and their families to address any change in their compensation and benefits in a manner that acknowledges the commitment that we made to them when they volunteered to serve in our Armed Forces. Secretary Panetta, General Dempsey, and Mr. Hale, we look forward to your testimony, and I now call on Senator McCain. [The prepared statement of Senator Levin follows:] Prepared Statement by Senator Carl Levin This morning the committee welcomes Secretary of Defense, Leon Panetta, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, for our hearing on the Department of Defense (DOD) fiscal year 2013 budget request, the associated Future Years Defense Program, and the posture of the U.S. Armed Forces. The committee also welcomes Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Robert Hale who has joined the Secretary and the Chairman at the witness table. Let me start by thanking all of you for your continued service to the Nation and to the soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines at home and in harm's way around the globe and to their families. They are truly deserving of the Nation's affection and support. I also want you to know that we very much appreciate the positive way you all have worked with this committee and the relationships you have fostered with our members. BUDGET Your testimony today marks the beginning of the committee's review of the fiscal year 2013 budget request for DOD. This year's request includes $525 billion for the base budget and $88.4 billion for overseas contingency operations (OCO). The fiscal year 2013 base budget request is $5 billion less than the fiscal year 2012 enacted level of $530 billion. The OCO request is $27 billion less than last year's enacted level of $115 billion. The fiscal year 2013 base budget request conforms with the Budget Control Act that Congress passed last summer. The Senate approved the Budget Control Act on a bipartisan basis with 74 Senators voting for it. The Budget Control Act locked in defense and non-defense discretionary spending caps over 10 years. The defense caps reduced projected defense spending by nearly half a trillion dollars over 10 years and the Department responded with a new strategy and new program to meet the Nation's security challenges and preserve our military capabilities. The Budget Control Act also included language requiring Congress to pass legislation with additional far-reaching deficit reduction. If Congress does not come up with a deficit reduction package by next January, one that locks in another $1.2 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years, then automatic spending cuts, called sequestration, will be imposed on both defense and non-defense programs. We need to find a comprehensive deficit reduction plan that will avoid these drastic and arbitrary cuts. The budget the President sent us yesterday avoids sequestration by meeting the $1.2 trillion additional defense reduction target--approximately one-half in further cuts in spending and one-half in additional revenues. STRATEGY The defense budget request for fiscal year 2013 not only conforms to the funding limits of the congressionally-mandated Budget Control Act, it also supports the results of the Department's comprehensive, carefully managed, and inclusive strategic review initiated by President Obama in April last year and the strategic guidance that resulted. The requirement for a new strategic review, following so closely on the heels of the 2009 Quadrennial Defense Review, was driven in part by the fiscal crisis confronting the Nation. As former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mike Mullen, cautioned us in August 2010: ``The most significant threat to our national security is our debt.'' Senior military leaders have made it clear that updating and where necessary adjusting the Nation's security strategy was their first order of business and the budget they have sent to us this year was built after and to support that new Defense Strategic Guidance. In looking more toward the future, the new Defense Strategic Guidance places emphasis on potentially growing strategic challenges in the Asia-Pacific region, but intends to do so without ignoring the enduring challenges of the Middle East. Consistent with this shift, the Department will place more emphasis on systems that project our military power, assuring access and freedom of operations in any region. It sustains the growth in Special Operations Forces (SOF) and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, and increases investment in unmanned systems and cyberspace capabilities. The guidance deemphasizes stability operations in the near and distant future and therefore reduces the size of Army and Marine Corps ground forces to slightly above pre-2003 levels. Finally, as a strategic and operational hedge, implementation of the reductions in current capabilities such as end strength and force structure will be accomplished in a way that allows for stopping or reversing the changes depending on developments in the strategic environment or the emergence of an unforeseen crisis. We look forward to the witnesses' explanation of the process they went through to develop the new Defense Strategic Guidance, their assessment of this guidance's most important features and potential risks relative to the current and anticipated security environment, and how this budget request supports its strategic priorities and manages strategic risk in the near- and long-terms. BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE The administration has called for two more base realignment and closure (BRAC) rounds. In my view, however, before we consider another round of BRAC, the Department ought to take a hard look at whether further reduction in bases can be made overseas, particularly in Europe. While the Department has announced the removal of two of the four combat brigades currently stationed in Europe, even after the brigades are withdrawn, there will still be over 70,000 U.S. military personnel deployed in Europe. Finding further reductions and consolidations in our overseas force posture should be our first priority before another BRAC round. AFGHANISTAN/PAKISTAN The fiscal year 2013 defense budget request reflects the continuing conflict in Afghanistan, but also reflects the fact that the process of transition has begun and continues apace. Afghan security forces are assuming responsibility for securing the Afghan people in more and more areas throughout the country. Progress on security is real. The second round of areas to be transitioned to an Afghan security lead will be completed later this year. Then, approximately 50 percent of the Afghan population will live in areas where Afghan security forces have the lead for providing security, with coalition forces playing a supporting role. I have long pressed for Afghan security forces to move increasingly into the combat lead and to assume responsibility for securing more and more Afghan territory and communities, as the size and capabilities of the Afghan Army and police are built up. The success of our mission in Afghanistan depends on getting the Afghan security forces in the lead with the support of the Afghan people, thereby putting the lie to the Taliban propaganda that the coalition is an occupying force. The Afghan Foreign Ministry spokesman recently made clear there was full agreement on transition, saying: ``We have always maintained that Afghan security is an Afghan responsibility.'' Last June President Obama said that the 33,000 U.S. surge force would be removed from Afghanistan by the end of this summer. That means that 68,000 U.S. troops will remain in Afghanistan after the drawdown of the surge. He also said that after the reduction of the U.S. surge force, U.S. troops will continue to draw down ``at a steady pace.'' Yet the fiscal year 2013 OCO budget request now before Congress is based on an assumption that there are no additional reductions in the 68,000 troop level in Afghanistan throughout all of fiscal year 2013. The question that I hope our witnesses will address this morning is whether they expect further reductions in U.S. troop levels in Afghanistan during fiscal year 2013 below 68,000 and what associated cost savings would result. If that decision has not been made by the President, what is the timetable for its being made? I also hope Secretary Panetta will clarify his surprising statements earlier this month that, ``Our goal is to complete all of [the transition to a training, advisory and assistance role] in 2013'' and that ``Hopefully by mid- to the latter part of 2013 we'll be able to make a transition from a combat role.'' There are many reports about reconciliation talks with the Taliban. If Taliban statements are true that they will open a political office in Qatar, it would have the potential to be a positive development. I am concerned, however, by reports that in exchange for the opening of this office, the administration is considering transferring five Afghan Taliban detainees from the Guantanamo detention facility to Qatar. Such a significant step strikes me as premature and should be considered in my view only following positive discussions, not preceding them. Another concern I have regarding the progress of the reconciliation talks is the reported decision by the Government of Afghanistan to open a second channel in the dialogue with the Taliban in Saudi Arabia. It seems to me this would create the potential for confusion. The United States has said it is committed to an Afghan-led reconciliation process. That is another reason that the discussion process ought to be pursued through a single channel, with both the Afghan Government and the United States fully coordinated and participating together, whether it takes place in one or two venues. The wild card in the peace process is what role Pakistan will play. In the past few months, our relations with Pakistan have hit a low point. If Pakistan is committed to peace and stability in the region, it needs to begin by ending the safe havens in Pakistan for insurgents who are attacking our forces, the Afghan forces and the Afghan people. Pakistan cannot expect to have a normal relationship with the United States until it deals with the threats to us emanating from these militant sanctuaries for militants in Pakistan. SECURITY POSTURE IN THE ASIA PACIFIC The Defense Strategic Guidance emphasizes the U.S. military presence and posture in the Asia Pacific, and rightly so. The recent death of North Korea's Kim Jong-il creates new uncertainties about possible threats to regional security, and questions about China's rapid military growth. Its increasing assertiveness in areas like the South China Sea remind us that our presence and constructive engagement in the region remains important to the security interests of the United States and the region. The committee remains keenly interested in the plans for U.S. force posture in the Pacific. With respect to realignment of U.S. marines on Okinawa, for example, Senator McCain, Senator Webb, and I have advocated changes to the current plan in ways that support the strategic goals of the U.S. regional military posture while avoiding excessive and unsustainable costs associated with large and elaborate new bases. The announcement last week that the United States and Japan are reconsidering elements of the plan is welcome news, but the steps are not yet adequate. For instance, there is apparently no intention to reconsider the plan to build the unaffordable Futenma Replacement Facility at Camp Schwab on Okinawa, nor does it appear that the U.S. Air Force bases in the region are being considered as part of the solution although they now have excess capacity. It is important that any changes be jointly agreed upon and jointly announced, and that they go far enough that a more viable and sustainable U.S. presence in Japan and on Guam results. OTHER CHALLENGES Iran There is a strong bipartisan determination on this committee and in Congress to do all we can to counter the threat Iran poses, including stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. President Obama has focused considerable diplomatic effort towards that goal because, in his own words, ``America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal.'' The administration is bringing the world together to speak with one strong voice against Iran's nuclear ambitions. The administration has sought to make clear the benefits available to Iran and its people if it complies with international norms and obligations, but also to make clear the negative consequences if it decides to produce nuclear weapons. Concerted, coordinated, international diplomatic and economic pressure will hopefully make Iran understand in practical terms the consequences of its actions, and will convince Iran not to pursue the development of a nuclear weapon. Arab Spring The impact of the Arab Spring has had significant implications on security and stability in the region, including U.S. security cooperation, military-to-military relations, and counterterrorism cooperation. The Department's new Defense Strategic Guidance places considerable emphasis on partnering with foreign nations and their militaries on matters of mutual interest. The committee will be interested to hear from the Secretary and the Chairman on the impact of the Arab Spring, and the problems and opportunities it has created for our security. Egypt The decades old relationship between the United States and Egypt is under strain. In recent days, General Dempsey traveled to Cairo to engage the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces on the very troubling decision by the Egyptians to charge 19 Americans and dozens of other individuals for operating programs in support of Egyptian civil society. The committee is eager to learn the findings of General Dempsey's visit because the decision by the Egyptians, if unresolved, will negatively affect funding decisions that Congress makes in the coming months. Syria Finally, the regime of President Bashar-al-Assad is waging war on the people of Syria and despite the condemnation of the Arab League and almost all nations, China and Russia are preventing the U.N. Security Council from taking any effective action. If the situation is left as is, there is also a significant threat that surrounding countries could be severely impacted. Our witnesses will hopefully discuss options we have to help end the slaughter, as limited as those options might be. MISSILE DEFENSE Given the existing and growing threat of ballistic missiles from nations such as North Korea and Iran, Congress has been supportive of efforts to develop and field effective ballistic missile defenses against these threats. The completion of Phase 1 of the European Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAA) at the end of 2011 provided an initial level of protection against Iran's regional missile threat to Europe, and is expected to be part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization's (NATO) initial missile defense capability later this spring. The Department is continuing to develop additional EPAA capabilities to counter future Iranian missile threats. NATO and the United States continue to pursue cooperation with Russia on missile defense, since it could enhance our security against the common threat of Iranian missiles. Although this has been a contentious issue with Russia, a new independent study released at the Munich Security Conference points the way to a practical and beneficial approach to such cooperation, similar to the NATO approach. If there is U.S.-Russian cooperation on this, it would send a powerful signal to Iran and might help dissuade Iran from developing nuclear weapons and missiles to carry them. CYBERSECURITY The Defense Strategic Guidance notes that both state and non-state actors possess the capability and intent to conduct cyber espionage and the capability to conduct cyber attacks on the United States, with possibly severe effects on both our economy and on our security. The Director of National Intelligence, in recent Senate testimony, placed the cybersecurity threat in the top tier, alongside terrorism and proliferation. A recent report from the National Counterintelligence Executive stated that entities operating from within China and Russia are responsible for the massive theft of U.S. commercial and military technology that could threaten our national security and economy. We should let China and Russia know, in no uncertain terms, that cyber economic espionage will have very negative consequences for normal trade relations. In addition to defending its own networks, the Department of Defense has an important role to play in supporting the Department of Homeland Security in improving the security of all government networks and those of the Nation's 17 designated critical infrastructure sectors, which includes the Defense Industrial Base, telecommunications, energy, transportation, and banking and finance, among others. The security of those networks is also vital to the Department of Defense, which depends on them to mobilize, deploy, and sustain our military forces. COUNTERTERRORISM The Department's strategic guidance continues to place U.S. counterterrorism activities among its highest priorities. The United States has had a number of significant successes in the last year--most notably, operations against Osama bin Laden and Anwar al-Awlaki--and U.S. counterterrorism efforts are becoming more global as al Qaeda and its affiliates disperse to Yemen, Somalia, Iran, North Africa, and other prospective sanctuaries. The budget priorities outlined by the Department appropriately emphasize the capabilities possessed by Special Operations Forces to conduct counterterrorism, building partnership capacity, and other missions in support of geographic combatant commanders. The committee looks forward to learning more about how these forces will be utilized under the Strategic Guidance to meet demand for engagements with partner nations, particularly in the Asia Pacific, while continuing to counter al Qaeda and affiliated organizations elsewhere. PERSONNEL Finally, in the area of personnel, the Department proposes numerous personnel-related reforms aimed at slowing the increase in personnel and health care costs, which continue to rise at unsustainable rates. These reforms include a significant reduction in military end strength over the next 5 years, other personnel-related reforms, and a commission to review military retirement benefits. I agree with General Dempsey, Admiral Winnefeld, the Service Chiefs, and the Services' senior enlisted advisors who urged me, in a letter dated January 25, 2011, to grandfather the retirement benefits of those currently serving. We owe it to our servicemembers and their families to address any change in their compensation and benefits in a manner that acknowledges the commitment we made to them when they volunteered to serve in our Armed Forces. Secretary Panetta, General Dempsey, we look forward to your testimony. STATEMENT OF SENATOR JOHN McCAIN Senator McCain. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I join in welcoming Secretary Panetta and Chairman Dempsey to discuss the President's budget request for fiscal year 2013; his proposal to reduce the budget for DOD by $487 billion over the next 10 years, and the impact of these reductions on FYDP for DOD. While the other members of this committee and I will continue to scrutinize these proposals, I can say today that I do not fully endorse this budget request. Indeed, I am seriously concerned about how we arrived at this point. On April 13, 2011, the President of the United States announced his intention to reduce the DOD budget by $400 billion through 2023. However, his announcement was unsupported by any type of comprehensive strategic review or risk assessment. In fact, then-Secretary Gates testified before Congress that he only learned the night before about this massive proposed cut in our defense spending. Now, the President proposes $487 billion in cuts over 10 years, and we're told that these proposed cuts are not budget- driven, but based on a thorough strategic review of our defense priorities. Respectfully, this doesn't add up. Unfortunately, this defense budget continues the administration's habit of putting short-term political considerations over our long-term national security interests. In Afghanistan, our military commanders initially asked for a surge of 40,000 troops. The President disregarded their advice, sent 30,000 troops instead, and announced a date when they would begin withdrawing. Our commanders then recommended maintaining the full surge force throughout this year's fighting season, but the President again disregarded their advice and announced reductions to our force levels that the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mullen, said were more aggressive and incurred greater risks than he advised. Finally, in Iraq, the President disregarded the advice of his commanders again, dragged out negotiations with the Iraqi Government with no intent to maintain a presence of U.S. troops. Now, with the political and security situations unraveling, it is difficult to argue that Iraq today is, to use the President's phrase, ``stable and self-reliant.'' It seems as though many of the President's most significant decisions about our national defense have been fundamentally disconnected from conditions on the ground and the advice of our military commanders, including commanders that the President himself selected. I fear that this defense budget and the broader plan to cut $487 billion from DOD over 10 years only continues this dangerous and regrettable pattern. By any objective assessment, the worldwide threats to our Nation, our interests, and our ideals are not diminishing. They are growing. Yet the defense budget before us would reduce the size of our force by more than 125,000 military personnel. It would jeopardize our nuclear modernization plan by making critical cuts to our nuclear weapons infrastructure programs. It would eliminate 20 percent of the Army's brigade combat teams (BCT), 6 Marine Corps battalions, 4 tactical air squadrons, 7 Air Force combat squadrons, and 130 mobility aircraft. Perhaps most concerning of all, in light of the administration's own identification of the Asia-Pacific region as the focus of U.S. defense strategy, this budget would require the Navy to reduce shipbuilding by 28 percent, to retire seven cruisers and two amphibious ships earlier than planned, to delay the next generation ballistic missile submarine, and to postpone the purchases of one Virginia-class attack submarine, two littoral combat ships, and eight high- speed transport vessels. Furthermore, while this defense strategy and its related budget cuts clearly increase the risks to our national security objectives, there has been no formal risk assessment provided to Congress. How can we and the American people determine whether the additional risks associated with this strategy are acceptable if we do not know the specific nature of those risks as defined by the U.S. military? These cuts pale in comparison to what DOD would face under sequestration, an outcome that Secretary Panetta has correctly stated would be ``catastrophic'' for our national defense. Yet, here too, domestic politics are taking priority over national security, with the President saying he would veto an effort by Congress to eliminate sequestration that does not include raising taxes. Our message to you, Secretary Panetta, and to the President of the United States: If it is as catastrophic as you state, then why don't we sit down? Why doesn't the President sit down with us and we work out a way to avoid what you and General Dempsey have described as catastrophic consequences for the national security of this country, rather than the President sitting in the Oval Office and saying he'll veto any bill that doesn't have tax increases in it? In short, we have come to a critical turning point when decisions of the utmost importance for our national security must be resolved, and the consequences of those decisions, for better or worse, will forever shape our Nation's destiny. Defense spending is not what is sinking this country deeper into an unsustainable national debt. If we act under the assumption that it is, we will create something that is truly unaffordable, the hollowing out of the U.S. military and the decline of U.S. military power. We can either take the easy route of dramatic cuts to force structure and investments, which diminish our military capabilities and increase risk. Or, we can balance more modest and strategically-directed reductions in defense spending with an aggressive plan to address the broader cultural problems plaguing our defense establishment, the waste and inefficiency with which DOD buys goods and services under the undue influence of a noncompetitive military/industrial/congressional complex. I believe we must tackle this cultural problem head on. We must cut congressional earmarks and pork barrel spending on programs that the military does not request and does not need. We must have transparent and auditable financial statements, and we must eliminate the shameless cost overruns that characterize too many of our largest defense programs. From my review of these programs, this point is clear: The phenomenon of acquisition malpractice, which a senior DOD official publicly described just a few days ago, can be found in many more programs than just the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF). It pervades the entire major defense acquisition program portfolio, revealing a cultural problem in the acquisition of goods and services that is unsustainable. Before DOD further risks force structure to achieve budget savings, practices like this must end now. Now is the time to set politics aside for the sake of the one issue that we can all agree on is nonnegotiable to the future health and success of our Nation--our national defense. We need to start with goals, move to strategy, and allow that rigorous process to inform the budget we create. The administration's approach thus far has been too defined by short-term domestic political considerations. The administration has not led. For the sake of our national security, Congress should. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I look forward to the testimony of our witnesses. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta. STATEMENT OF HON. LEON E. PANETTA, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE; ACCOMPANIED BY ROBERT F. HALE, UNDER SECRETARY OF DEFENSE (COMPTROLLER) Secretary Panetta. Thank you very much, Chairman Levin, Senator McCain, members of the committee. I ask that my statement be made part of the record and I would like to summarize some of the key points. Chairman Levin. It will be made part of the record and, by the way, the balance of my statement that I didn't give will also be made part of the record. Secretary Panetta. Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you to discuss the President's budget request for fiscal year 2013. Let me begin, as always, by thanking you for the support that you provide to servicemembers and to our military families. These brave men and women, along with DOD's civilian professionals who support them, have done everything asked of them and more, during more than a decade of war. I want to thank you for the support that you have given them in the past, the present, and hopefully in the future. The fiscal year 2013 budget request for DOD was the product of an intensive strategy review that was conducted by the senior military and civilian leaders of DOD, with advice and guidance of the President. The total request represents a $614 billion investment in national defense that includes $525.4 billion for DOD's base budget and $88.5 billion in spending to support our troops in combat. The reasons for this review are clear. First, the United States is at a strategic turning point after a decade of war and after very substantial growth in defense budgets. Second, with the Nation confronting a very large debt problem and deficit problem in this country, Congress passed the BCA of 2011, imposing a reduction in the defense budget of $487 billion over the next decade. We at DOD decided to step up to the plate, and that this crisis provided us an opportunity to establish a new strategy for the force that we would need in the future. That strategy has guided us in making the budget decisions and choices that are contained in the President's budget. The fact is, we are at an important turning point that would have required us to make a strategic shift probably under any circumstances. The U.S. military's mission in Iraq has ended. While we still have a tough fight on our hands in Afghanistan, 2011 marks significant progress in reducing violence and transitioning to an Afghan-led responsibility for security, and we are on track to complete this transition by the end of 2014 in accordance with our Lisbon commitments. Having just returned from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) ministerial, I can assure you that all of the NATO nations are in line with the strategy that we are approaching with regards to Afghanistan. We are in a transition. We are transitioning security to Afghan forces, and our hope is that as we make the final transition in 2014, that they can take the lead on combat operations. We will be there. We'll be in support. We'll be combat-ready to support them through that process. I want to assure you that NATO is fully in agreement with the strategy that we are moving in in Afghanistan. Last year, in addition, the NATO effort in Libya also concluded with the fall of Qadafi, and successful counterterrorism efforts have significantly weakened al Qaeda and decimated its leadership. But despite what we have been able to achieve, unlike past drawdowns when threats have receded, the United States still faces a very complex array of strategic challenges across the globe. We are still a Nation at war in Afghanistan. We still face threats to our Homeland from terrorism. There is a dangerous proliferation of lethal weapons and materials. The behavior of Iran and North Korea continue to threaten global stability. There is continuing turmoil and unrest in the Middle East, from Syria to Egypt to Yemen and beyond. Rising powers in Asia are testing international rules and relationships, and there are growing concerns about cyber intrusions and attacks. Our challenge is to meet these threats, to protect our Nation and our people, and at the same time, meet our responsibility to fiscal discipline. This is not an easy task. To build the force we need for the future, we developed a new Defense Strategic Guidance that consists of five key elements. First, the military will be smaller and leaner, but we want a military that is agile, flexible, ready, and technologically advanced. Second, we will rebalance our global posture and presence to emphasize Asia Pacific and the Middle East, because those areas represent the threats for the future. Third, for the rest of the world, we need to build innovative partnerships and strengthen key alliances and partnerships from Europe to Latin America to Africa. Fourth, we will ensure that we have the capability to quickly confront and defeat aggression from any adversary, any time, anywhere. Fifth, this can't just be about cuts. It also has to be about protecting and prioritizing key investments in technology and new capabilities, as well as our capacity to grow, adapt, and mobilize as needed. We've developed this new Defense Strategic Guidance before any final budget decisions were made, in order to ensure that the decisions that are here, the choices we made, reflect the new defense strategy. While shaping the strategy, we didn't want to repeat the mistakes of the past. Our goals are to maintain the strongest military in the world, to not hollow out the force, to take a balanced approach to budget cuts by putting everything on the table, and to not break faith with our troops and their families. Throughout this review, we also wanted to make sure that this was an inclusive process. General Dempsey and I worked closely with the leadership of the Services and the combatant commanders and consulted regularly with Members of Congress. As a result of these efforts, DOD is strongly unified behind the recommendations that we are presenting today. Consistent with the BCA, this budget reflects in the next 5 years a savings of $259 billion. That's compared to the budget plan that was submitted, obviously, to Congress last year. We think this is a balanced and complete package that follows the key elements of the strategy and adheres to the guidelines that we established. The savings come from three broad areas. First, efficiencies. We have redoubled our efforts to discipline the use of taxpayers' dollars, and that has yielded, we hope, about one-quarter of the targeted savings that we have in this package. The second area is force structure and procurement reforms and adjustments. We've made strategy-driven changes in both force structure and procurement programs to achieve roughly half of the savings in this package. Finally, on compensation. We've made modest but important adjustments in personnel costs to achieve some very necessary cost savings in this area. This area represents about one-third of our budget, but here it accounted for little more than 10 percent of the total reduction that we've presented. Let me walk through each of these areas. First of all, with regards to disciplining defense dollars, if we're going to tighten up the force then I, like Senator McCain, believe very strongly that we have to begin by tightening up the operations of DOD. We have to reduce excess overhead, eliminate waste, and improve business practices across DOD. The fiscal year 2012 budget proposed more than $150 billion in efficiencies, and we continue to implement those changes. But we also identified another $60 billion in additional savings over 5 years through measures like streamlining support functions, consolidating information technology enterprise services, rephasing military construction (MILCON) projects, consolidating inventory, and reducing service support contractors. As we reduce force structure, we also have a responsibility to provide the most cost-efficient support for the force. For that reason, the President will request Congress to authorize the BRAC process for 2013 and 2015. As somebody who went through the BRAC process in my own district, I recognize how controversial this process is for Members and for constituencies. Yet, it is the only effective way to achieve needed infrastructure savings. To provide better financial information, we are also increasing our emphasis on audit readiness and accelerating key timelines. In October 2011, I directed DOD to accelerate efforts to achieve fully auditable financial statements. We were mandated to do it by 2017; what I have ordered is that we move that up to 2014. But efficiencies alone are not enough to achieve the required savings. Budget reductions of this magnitude require that we make adjustments to force structure and procurement investments. The choices that we made have to fit the five elements of the strategy that we developed for the future military force. First, we knew that coming out of these wars, as I said, the military would be smaller, but our approach to accommodating these reductions has been to take this as an opportunity to fashion an agile and flexible military that we need for the future. That highly networked and capable joint force consists of an adaptable and battle-tested Army that remains our Nation's force for decisive action, capable of defeating any adversary on land, and at the same time being innovative about how it deploys its forces; a Navy that maintains forward presence and is able to penetrate enemy defenses; a Marine Corps that remains a middleweight expeditionary force, with reinvigorated and amphibious capabilities; an Air Force that dominates air and space and provides rapid mobility, global strike, and persistent intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR); and a National Guard and Reserve that continue to be ready and prepared for operations when needed. To ensure this agile force, we made a conscious choice not to maintain more force structure than we could afford to properly train and equip. If we do it the other way, we guarantee a hollow force. We wanted a force structure that we could effectively train and maintain. We are implementing force structure reductions consistent with the new Defense Strategic Guidance for a total savings of $50 billion over the next 5 years. The adjustments include, as was pointed out, a resizing of the Active Army from 562,000 to 490,000 soldiers by 2017. This will transition down in a responsible way. We'll gradually resize the Active Marine Corps from about 202,000 to 182,000. We'll reduce and streamline the Air Force's airlift fleet. We'll retire some aging C-5As and C-130s. But at the same time, we'll maintain a fleet of 275 strategic airlifters and 318 C-130s, a fleet that will be more than capable of meeting the airlift requirements of the new strategy. The Navy will protect our highest priority and most flexible ships, but we also will retire seven lower priority Navy cruisers. The reason we're doing that is that these cruisers have not been upgraded with ballistic missile defense capability and would require significant repairs. That's the reason the Navy chose to do that. Second, the New Strategic Guidance made clear that we must protect our capabilities needed to project power in Asia Pacific and the Middle East. To this end, the budget maintains the current bomber fleet, it maintains the aircraft carrier fleet at a long-term level of 11 ships and 10 air wings, it maintains the big-deck amphibious fleet, and it restores Army and Marine Corps force structure in the Pacific after the drawdown from Iraq and as we draw down in Afghanistan, while continuing to maintain a strong presence in the Middle East. Our goal is to expand our rotational presence in both areas. The budget also makes selected new investments to ensure we develop new capabilities to project power in key territories and domains. We're going to put $300 million to fund the next general Air Force bomber. We're putting $1.8 billion to develop the new Air Force tanker, $18.2 billion for the procurement of 10 new warships, including 2 Virginia-class submarines, 2 Aegis-class destroyers, 4 littoral combat ships, 1 joint high- speed vessel, and 1 CVN-21-class aircraft carrier. We're also investing $100 million to increase cruise missile capacity of future Virginia-class submarines. Third, the strategy makes clear that, even as Asia Pacific and the Middle East represent the areas of growing strategic priority, the United States will continue to work to strengthen its key alliances, to build partnerships, to develop innovative ways, such as rotational deployments, to sustain our presence elsewhere in the world. To that end, we make key investments in NATO and other partnership programs. We're putting $200 million in fiscal year 2013 and nearly $900 million over the next 5 years on the NATO alliance Ground Surveillance System, one that was just approved by the NATO ministerial in this last meeting; $9.7 billion in fiscal year 2013 and about $47 billion to develop and deploy missile defense capabilities that protect the U.S. Homeland and strengthen regional missile defenses as well. The new strategy envisions a series of organizational changes to boost efforts to partner with other militaries. We're allocating a U.S.-based brigade to the NATO response force and will rotate U.S.-based units to Europe on a regular basis for training and exercises, increasing the opportunities as well for Special Operations Forces (SOF) to advise and assist our partners in other regions. Fourth, the United States must have the capability to fight more than one conflict at a time. But we are in the 21st century and we have to use 21st century capabilities. That's the reason this budget invests in space, in cyber space, in long-range precision strike, and in the continued growth of SOF, to ensure that we can still confront and defeat multiple adversaries even with the force structure reductions that I've outlined earlier. It also sustains the nuclear triad of bombers, missiles, and submarines to continue to ensure that we have a safe, reliable, and effective nuclear deterrent. Even with some adjustments to force structure, the budget sustains a military that I believe is the strongest in the world: an Army of more than 1 million Active and Reserve soldiers with 18 divisions, approximately 65 BCTs, and 21 combat aviation brigades; a naval force of 285 ships, the same size force that we have today, that will remain the most powerful and flexible naval force on Earth; a Marine Corps with 31 infantry battalions, 10 artillery battalions, and 20 tactical air squadrons; and an Air Force that will continue to ensure air dominance, with 54 combat- coded fighter squadrons and the current bomber fleet. Lastly, we can't just, as I said, cut. We have to invest. We have to leap ahead of our adversaries by investments in the latest technologies. That's why this budget provides $11.9 billion for science and technology (S&T). It includes $2.1 billion for basic research. It provides $10.4 billion to sustain the continued growth in SOF. It provides $3.8 billion for unmanned air systems and it invests $3.4 billion in cyber activities. At the same time, the New Strategic Guidance recognizes the need to prioritize and distinguish urgent modernization needs from those that can be delayed, particularly in light of schedule and cost problems. Therefore, the budget has identified $75 billion in savings over 5 years resulting from cancelled or restructured programs. Some examples: $15.1 billion in savings from restructuring the JSF, by delaying aircraft purchases so that we can allow more time for development and testing; $1.3 billion in savings from delaying development of the Army's ground combat vehicle due to contracting difficulties; $4.3 billion in savings from delaying the next generation of ballistic missile submarines by 2 years for affordability and management reasons. In addition, we terminate selected programs: the Block 30 version of Global Hawk, which has grown in cost to the point that it is simply no longer cost-effective; the weather satellite program, because we can depend on existing satellites, resulting in a savings of $2.3 billion. All of this requires that we have to have and maintain the ability to mobilize and to regrow the force if we have to. That means we need to maintain a capable and ready National Guard and Reserve. One of the things we are doing is that the Army is going to retain more mid-grade officers and noncommissioned officers so they'll be there with the experience and structure we need if we have to move quickly to regrow the force. The Reserve component has demonstrated its readiness and importance over the past 10 years of war and we must ensure that it remains available, trained, and equipped to serve in an operational capacity when necessary. Another key part of preserving our ability to quickly adapt and mobilize is maintaining a strong and flexible industrial base. I'm committed to make sure that our budget recognizes that industry is our partner in the defense acquisition enterprise. We have to maintain a base if we're going to be able to mobilize and be prepared in the future. Finally, with regards to our most important element of our strategy and our decisionmaking process: our people. This budget recognizes that they, far more than any weapons system or technology, are the great strength of the U.S. military. One of the guiding principles in our decisionmaking process was that we must try to keep faith with our troops and their families. For that reason, we've determined to protect family assistance programs, to sustain these important investments in this budget that serve our troops and their families, and continue to make efforts to ensure that these programs are responsive to their needs. Yet, in order to build the force needed to defend the country under existing budget constraints, the growth in costs of military pay and benefits must be put on a sustainable course. This is an area of the budget that has grown by nearly 90 percent since 2001, about 30 percent above inflation, while end strength has only grown by 3 percent. So this budget contains a road map to try to address those costs in military pay and health care and retirement in ways that we believe are fair, transparent, and consistent with our fundamental commitments to our people. On military pay, there are no pay cuts. We've created sufficient room to allow full pay raises in 2013 and 2014. However, we will provide more limited pay raises beginning in 2015, giving troops and their families fair notice and lead time before changes take effect. The budget devotes about $48, almost $50 billion to health care costs. It's a big part of our budget, an amount that has more than doubled over the last decade. In order to continue to control the growth of these costs, we're recommending increases in health care fees, in copays and deductibles that are to be phased in over 4 to 5 years. None of these fee proposals would apply to Active-Duty servicemembers and there will be no increases in health care premiums for families of Active-Duty servicemembers under this proposal. We also feel that it's important to address the military retirement costs as well. What we urge is the establishment of a commission with authority to conduct a comprehensive review of military retirement. But we have made clear, the President and DOD, that the retirement benefits of those who currently serve should be protected by grandfathering their benefits. Members of the committee, putting this together, this kind of balanced package, has been difficult, and at the same time it has been an opportunity to try to think about what force do we need now and what force do we need in the future. I believe we, the Service Chiefs, the combatant commanders, have developed a complete package to try to address our threats for the future and to try to ensure that we achieve our strategic aims. As a result, the fiscal year 2013 request is balanced, it keeps America safe, and we think it sustains U.S. leadership abroad. Please take a look at each of the individual parts of this plan. I encourage you to review this entire budget. This has to be a partnership. But I ask you also to bear in mind the strategic tradeoffs that are inherent in any particular budget decision. This is a zero sum game. There is no free money here. The need to balance competing strategic objectives is taking place in a resource-constrained environment. We'll need your support and partnership to implement this vision of the future military. I know these are tough issues. This is the beginning, it's not the end of this process. But make no mistake, the savings that we are proposing are significant and broad-based and will impact all 50 States. But this is what Congress mandated on a bipartisan basis, that we reduce the defense budget by almost half a trillion dollars. We need your partnership to do this in a manner that preserves the strongest military in the world. This will be a test for all of us of whether reducing the deficit is about talk or about action. Let me be clear. You can't take a half a trillion dollars out of the defense budget and not incur additional risks. We believe they are acceptable risks, but they are risks. We're going to have a smaller force. We'll depend on the speed of mobilization. We have to depend on ingenuity in terms of new technologies for the future, and very frankly, when you go through this there is no margin for error. This is why Congress must do everything possible to make sure that we avoid sequestration. We are more than prepared to work with Congress to try to develop an approach that will detrigger sequestration. This approach would subject DOD to another $500 billion in additional cuts that would be required to take place in a meat-axe approach. We are convinced that it would result in hollowing out the force and inflicting severe damage to our national defense. So the leadership of DOD, both military and civilian, is unified behind the strategy we've presented, behind this budget, and behind the need to avoid sequestration. I look forward to working closely with you in the months ahead. This is going to be a tough challenge, but it's what the American people expect of its elected leaders, to be fiscally responsible in developing the force for the future, the force that can defend the country, the force that supports our men and women in uniform, and a force that is and always will be the strongest military in the world. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [The prepared statement of Secretary Panetta follows:] Prepared Statement by Hon. Leon E. Panetta Chairman Levin, Senator McCain, members of the committee, I appreciate the opportunity to appear before you to discuss the President's budget request for fiscal year 2013. Let me begin by first thanking you for your support for our servicemembers and our military families. These brave men and women, along with the Department's civilian professionals who support them, have done everything asked of them and more during more than a decade of war. DEFENSE STRATEGY REVIEW The fiscal year 2013 budget request for the Department of Defense (DOD) was the product of an intensive strategy review conducted by the senior military and civilian leaders of the Department with the advice and guidance of President Obama. The total request represents a $614 billion investment in national defense--including a $525.4 billion request for the Department's base budget, and $88.5 billion in spending to support our troops in combat. The reasons for this review are clear: first, the United States is at a strategic turning point after a decade of war and substantial growth in defense budgets. Second, with the Nation confronting very large debt and deficits, Congress passed the Budget Control Act of 2011, imposing limits that led to a reduction in the defense budget of $487 billion over the next decade. Deficit reduction is a critical national security priority in and of itself. We at the Department decided that this crisis presented us with the opportunity to establish a new strategy for the force of the future, and that strategy has guided us in making the budget choices contained in the President's budget. We are at an important turning point that would have required us to make a strategic shift under any circumstances. The U.S. military's mission in Iraq has ended. We still have a tough fight on our hands in Afghanistan, but over the past year we have begun a transition to Afghan-led responsibility for security-- and we are on track to complete that transition by the end of 2014, in accordance with our Lisbon commitments. Last year, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) effort in Libya also concluded with the fall of Qadhafi. Successful counterterrorism efforts have significantly weakened al Qaeda and decimated its leadership. But despite what we have been able to achieve, unlike past drawdowns when threats have receded, the United States still faces a complex array of security challenges across the globe: We are still a nation at war in Afghanistan; we still face threats from terrorism; there is dangerous proliferation of lethal weapons and materials; the behavior of Iran and North Korea threaten global stability; there is continuing turmoil and unrest in the Middle East; rising powers in Asia are testing international relationships; and there are growing concerns about cyber intrusions and attacks. Our challenge is to meet these threats and at the same time, meet our responsibility to fiscal discipline. This is not an easy task. To build the force we need for the future, we developed a new Defense Strategic Guidance that consists of these five key elements:First, the military will be smaller and leaner, but it will be agile, flexible, ready, and technologically advanced. Second, we will rebalance our global posture and presence to emphasize Asia-Pacific and the Middle East. Third, we will build innovative partnerships and strengthen key alliances and partnerships elsewhere in the world. Fourth, we will ensure that we can quickly confront and defeat aggression from any adversary--anytime, anywhere. Fifth, we will protect and prioritize key investments in technology and new capabilities, as well as our capacity to grow, adapt and mobilize as needed. STRATEGY TO FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET We developed this new Defense Strategic Guidance before any final budget decisions were made to ensure that the budget choices reflected the new defense strategy. While shaping this strategy, we did not want to repeat the mistakes of the past. Our goals were: to maintain the strongest military in the world, to not ``hollow out'' the force, to take a balanced approach to budget cuts, to put everything on the table, and to not break faith with troops and their families. Throughout the review we made sure this was an inclusive process, and General Dempsey and I worked closely with the leadership of the Services and combatant commanders, and consulted regularly with Members of Congress. As a result of these efforts, the Department is strongly united behind the recommendations we are presenting today. Consistent with title I of the Budget Control Act, this budget reflects $259 billion in savings over the next 5 years and $487 billion over the next 10 years compared to the budget plan submitted to Congress last year. Under the 5 year budget plan, the base budget will rise from $525 billion in fiscal year 2013 to $567 billion in fiscal year 2017. When reduced war- related funding requirements are included, we expect total U.S. defense spending to drop by more than 20 percent over the next few years from its peak in 2010, after accounting for inflation. This is a balanced and complete package that follows the key elements of the strategy and adheres to the guidelines we established. The savings come from three broad areas: First, efficiencies--we redoubled efforts to make more disciplined use of taxpayer dollars, yielding about one quarter of the target savings; Second, force structure and procurement adjustments-- we made strategy-driven changes in force structure and procurement programs, achieving roughly half of the savings; and Finally, compensation--we made modest but important adjustments in personnel costs to achieve some necessary cost savings in this area, which represents one third of the budget but accounted for a little more than 10 percent of the total reduction. Changes in economic assumptions and other shifts account for the remainder of the $259 billion in savings. Let me walk through these three areas, beginning with our efforts to discipline our use of defense dollars. MORE DISCIPLINED USE OF DEFENSE DOLLARS If we are to tighten up the force, I felt we have to begin by tightening up the operations of the Department. This budget continues efforts to reduce excess overhead, eliminate waste, and improve business practices across the department. The more savings realized in this area, the less spending reductions required for modernization programs, force structure, and military compensation. The fiscal year 2012 budget proposed more than $150 billion in efficiencies between fiscal year 2012 and fiscal year 2016, and we continue to implement those changes. This budget identifies about $60 billion in additional savings over 5 years. Across the Military Services, new efficiency efforts over the next 5 years include: The Army proposes to save $18.6 billion through measures such as streamlining support functions, consolidating information technology enterprise services, and rephasing military construction projects; The Navy proposes to save $5.7 billion by implementing strategic sourcing of commodities and services, consolidating inventory, and other measures; and The Air Force proposes to save $6.6 billion by reducing service support contractors and rephasing military construction projects. Other proposed DOD-wide efficiency savings over the next 5 years total $30.1 billion, including reductions in expenses in the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Defense agencies. Additionally, we are continuing the initiative to improve the Department's buying power by seeking greater efficiency and productivity in the acquisition of goods and services. We are strengthening acquisition support to the warfighter, executing acquisitions more efficiently, preserving the industrial base, and strengthening the acquisition workforce. This budget assumes that these policies produce savings of $5.3 billion over the next 5 years. In terms of military infrastructure, we will need to ensure that our current basing and infrastructure requirements do not divert resources from badly needed capabilities. As we reduce force structure, we have a responsibility to provide the most cost efficient support for the force. For that reason, the President will request that Congress authorize the Base Realignment and Closure process for 2013 and 2015. As someone who went through BRAC, I realize how controversial this process can be for members and constituencies. Yet, it is the only effective way to achieve infrastructure savings. Achieving audit readiness is another key initiative that will help the Department achieve greater discipline in its use of defense dollars. The Department needs auditable financial statements to comply with the law, to strengthen its own internal processes, and to reassure the public that it continues to be a good steward of Federal funds. In October 2011, I directed the Department to emphasize this initiative and accelerate efforts to achieve fully auditable financial statements. Among other specific goals, I directed the Department achieve audit readiness of the Statement of Budgetary Resources for general funds by the end of calendar year 2014, and to meet the legal requirements to achieve full audit readiness for all Defense Department financial statements by 2017. We are also implementing a course-based certification program for defense financial managers in order to improve training in audit readiness and other areas, with pilot programs beginning this year. We now have a plan in place to meet these deadlines, including specific goals, financial resources, and a governance structure. These are all critically important efforts to ensure the Department operates in the most efficient manner possible. Together, these initiatives will help ensure the Department can preserve funding for the force structure and modernization needed to support the missions of our force. STRATEGY-DRIVEN CHANGES IN FORCE STRUCTURE AND PROGRAMS It is obvious that we cannot achieve the overall savings targets through efficiencies alone. Budget reductions of this magnitude require significant adjustments to force structure and investments, but the choices we made reflected five key elements of the Defense Strategic Guidance and vision for the military. 1. Build a force that is smaller and leaner, but agile, flexible, ready and technologically advanced We knew that coming out of the wars, the military would be smaller. Our approach to accommodating these reductions, however, has been to take this as an opportunity--as tough as it is--to fashion the agile and flexible military we need for the future. That highly networked and capable joint force consists of: an adaptable and battle-tested Army that is our Nation's force for decisive action, capable of defeating any adversary on land; a Navy that maintains forward presence and is able to penetrate enemy defenses; a Marine Corps that is a ``middleweight'' expeditionary force with reinvigorated amphibious capabilities; an Air Force that dominates air and space and provides rapid mobility, global strike and persistent ISR; and National Guard and Reserve components that continue to be ready and prepared for operations when needed. To ensure an agile force, we made a conscious choice not to maintain more force structure than we could afford to properly train and equip. We are implementing force structure reductions consistent with the new Defense Strategic Guidance for a total savings of about $50 billion over the next 5 years. These adjustments include: Gradually resizing the Active Army to 490,000, eliminating a minimum of 8 BCTs and developing a plan to update the Army's brigade structure; Gradually resizing the Active Marine Corps to about 182,100, eliminating 6 combat battalions and 4 Tactical Air squadrons; Reducing and streamlining the Air Force's airlift fleet by retiring all 27 C-5As, 65 of the oldest C-130s and divesting all 38 C-27s. After retirements, the Air Force will maintain a fleet of 275 strategic airlifters, and 318 C-130s--a number that we have determined is sufficient to meet the airlift requirements of the new strategy, including the Air Force's commitment for direct support of the Army; Eliminating seven Air Force Tactical Air squadrons-- including five A-10 squadrons, one F-16 squadron, and one F-15 training squadron. The Air Force will retain 54 combat-coded fighter squadrons, maintaining the capabilities and capacity needed to meet the new Defense Strategic Guidance; and Retiring seven lower priority Navy cruisers that have not been upgraded with ballistic missile defense capability or that would require significant repairs, as well as retiring two dock landing ships. The strategy review recognized that a smaller, ready and agile force is preferable to a larger force that is poorly trained and ill- equipped. Therefore, we put a premium on retaining those capabilities that provide the most flexibility across a range of missions. We also emphasized readiness. For fiscal 2013, the Department is requesting $209 billion in the base budget for Operation and Maintenance, the budget category that funds training and equipment maintenance among other aspects of operations. That represents an increase of 6 percent compared to the enacted level in 2012, even though the overall base budget will decline by 1 percent. Striking the right balance between force structure and readiness is critical to our efforts to avoid a hollow force, and we will continue to focus on this area to ensure that we make the right choices. 2. Rebalance global posture and presence to emphasize Asia-Pacific and the Middle East The strategic guidance made clear that we must protect capabilities needed to project power in Asia-Pacific and the Middle East. To this end, this budget: Maintains the current bomber fleet; Maintains the aircraft carrier fleet at a long-term level of 11 ships and 10 air wings; Maintains the big-deck amphibious fleet; and Restores Army and Marine Corps force structure in the Pacific after the drawdown from Iraq and as we drawdown in Afghanistan, while maintaining persistent presence in the Middle East. The budget also makes selected new investments to ensure we develop new capabilities needed to maintain our military's continued freedom of action in face of new challenges that could restrict our ability to project power in key territories and domains. Across the Services, this budget plan requests $1.8 billion for fiscal year 2013, and a total of $3.9 billion over the next 5 years, for enhancements to radars, sensors, and electronic warfare capabilities needed to operate in these environments. Other key power projection investments in fiscal year 2013 include: $300 million to fund the next generation Air Force bomber (and a total of $6.3 billion over the next 5 years); $1.8 billion to develop the new Air Force tanker; $18.2 billion for the procurement of 10 new warships and associated equipment, including 2 Virginia-class submarines, 2 Aegis-class destroyers, 4 Littoral Combat Ships, 1 Joint High Speed Vessel, and 1 CVN-21-class aircraft carrier. We are also requesting $100 million to develop the capability to increase cruise missile capacity of future Virginia-class submarines; $2.2 billion in fiscal year 2013 for the procurement of an additional 26 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet aircraft; $1.0 billion in fiscal year 2013 for the procurement of 12 EA-18G Growler aircraft, the Navy's new electronic warfare platform that replaces the EA-6B; and $38 million for design efforts to construct an Afloat Forward Staging Base planned for procurement in fiscal year 2014. This base can provide mission support in areas where ground-based access is not available, such as counter-mine operations, Special Operations, and ISR. 3. Build innovative partnerships and strengthen key alliances and partnerships The strategy makes clear that even though Asia-Pacific and the Middle East represent the areas of growing strategic priority, the United States will work to strengthen its key alliances, to build partnerships and to develop innovative ways to sustain U.S. presence elsewhere in the world. To that end, this budget makes key investments in NATO and other partnership programs, including: $200 million in fiscal year 2013 and nearly $900 million over the next 5 years in the NATO Alliance Ground Surveillance system. This system will enable the Alliance to perform persistent surveillance over wide areas in any weather or light condition; $9.7 billion in fiscal year 2013, and $47.4 billion over the next 5 years, to develop and deploy missile defense capabilities that protect the U.S. Homeland and strengthen regional missile defenses. The request includes the Phased Adaptive Approach that is being deployed first in Europe and is designed to protect NATO allies and forces from ballistic missile threats; and $800 million for the combatant commanders exercise and engagement program. Jointly with the State Department, we will also begin using the new Global Security Contingency fund that was established at our request in the fiscal year 2012 legislation. The new strategy also envisions a series of organizational changes that will boost efforts to partner with other militaries. These include: Allocating a U.S.-based brigade to the NATO Response Force and rotating U.S.-based units to Europe for training and exercises; Aligning an Army BCT with each regional combatant command to foster regional expertise; and Increasing opportunities for Special Operations Forces to advise and assist partners in other regions, using additional capacity available due to the gradual drawdown from the post-September 11 wars. 4. Ensure that we can confront and defeat aggression from any adversary--anytime, anywhere The strategic guidance reaffirmed that the United States must have the capability to fight more than one conflict at the same time. Still, the strategic guidance recognizes that how we defeat the enemy may well vary across conflicts. This budget invests in space, cyberspace, long range precision- strike and the continued growth of Special Operations Forces to ensure that we can still confront and defeat multiple adversaries even with the force structure reductions outlined earlier. It also sustains the nuclear triad of bombers, missiles and submarines to ensure we continue to have a safe, reliable and effective nuclear deterrent. Even with some adjustments to force structure, this budget sustains a military that is the strongest in the world, capable of quickly and decisively confronting aggression wherever and whenever necessary. After planned reductions, the fiscal year 2017 joint force will consist of: An Army of more than 1 million Active and Reserve soldiers that remains flexible, agile, ready and lethal across the spectrum of conflict, with 18 divisions, approximately 65 Brigade Combat Teams, 21 Combat Aviation Brigades and associated enablers; A Naval battle force of 285 ships--the same size force that we have today--that will remain the most powerful and flexible naval force on earth, able to prevail in any combat situation, including the most stressing anti-access environments. Our maritime forces will include 11 carriers, 9 large deck amphibious ships (although we should build to 10 such ships in fiscal year 2018), 82 guided missile cruisers and destroyers, and 50 nuclear powered attack submarines; A Marine Corps that remains the Nation's expeditionary force in readiness, forward deployed and engaged, with 31 infantry battalions, 10 artillery battalions and 20 tactical air squadrons; and An Air Force that will continue to ensure air dominance with 54 combat coded fighter squadrons and the current bomber fleet, with the Joint Strike Fighter in production and the next generation bomber in development. Our Air Force will also maintain a fleet of 275 strategic airlifters, 318 C-130s and a new aerial refueling tanker. 5. Protect and prioritize key investments, and the capacity to grow, adapt, and mobilize The force we are building will retain a decisive technological edge, leverage the lessons of recent conflicts and stay ahead of the most lethal and disruptive threats of the future. To that end, the fiscal year 2013 budget: Provides $11.9 billion for science and technology to preserve our ability to leap ahead, including $2.1 billion for basic research; Provides $10.4 billion (base and OCO) to sustain the continued growth in Special Operations Forces; Provides $3.8 billion for Unmanned Air Systems by funding trained personnel, infrastructure, and platforms to sustain 65 USAF MQ-1/9 combat air patrols with a surge capacity of 85 by fiscal year 2016. We slowed the buy of the Reaper aircraft to allow us time to develop the personnel and training infrastructure necessary to make full use of these important aircraft. We also protected funding for the Army's unmanned air system Gray Eagle; Invests $3.4 billion in cyber activities, with several initiatives receiving increased funding relative to last year. The scale of cyber threats is increasing and we need to be prepared to defeat these threats, mitigate the potential damage, and provide the President with options to respond, if necessary. We are investing in full spectrum cyber operations capabilities to address the threats we see today and in the future. The Department is also pleased to see progress being made in Congress regarding cyber legislation and is supportive of the bipartisan legislation being introduced by Senators Lieberman and Collins; and Provides $1.5 billion to fund the Department's Chemical and Biological Defense program. At the same time, the strategic guidance recognizes the need to prioritize and distinguish urgent modernization needs from those that can be delayed--particularly in light of schedule and cost problems. Therefore this budget identifies about $75 billion in savings over the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP) resulting from canceled or restructured programs. Key modifications and associated savings over the FYDP include: $15.1 billion in savings from restructuring the Joint Strike Fighter by delaying aircraft purchases to allow more time for development and testing; $1.3 billion in savings from delaying development of the Army's Ground Combat Vehicle due to contracting difficulties; $2.2 billion in savings from curtailing the Joint Land Attack Cruise Missile Defense Elevated Netted Sensor System due to concerns about program cost and operational mobility; $4.3 billion in savings from delaying the next generation of ballistic missile submarines by 2 years for affordability and management reasons; and $0.8 billion in savings from delaying selected Army aviation helicopter modernization for 3 to 5 years. We will also terminate selected programs, including: The Block 30 version of Global Hawk, which has grown in cost to the point where it is no longer cost effective, resulting in savings of $2.5 billion; Upgrades to High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles; we will focus our modernization resources on the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle, resulting in savings of $900 million; and The weather satellite program, because we can depend on existing satellites, resulting in savings of $2.3 billion. We have also invested in a balanced portfolio of capabilities that will enable our force to remain agile, flexible and technologically advanced enough to meet any threat. We will ensure that we can mobilize, surge, and adapt our force to meet the requirements of an uncertain future. To that end, ground forces will retain the key enablers and know-how to conduct long-term stability operations, and the Army will retain more mid-grade officers and noncommissioned officers. These steps will ensure we have the structure and experienced leaders necessary should we need to re-grow the force quickly. Another key element is to maintain a capable and ready National Guard and Reserve. The Reserve component has demonstrated its readiness and importance over the past 10 years of war, and we must ensure that it remains available, trained, and equipped to serve in an operational capacity when necessary. We will maintain key combat support capabilities and ensure that combat service support capabilities like civil affairs are maintained at a high readiness level. We will also leverage the operational experience and institute a progressive readiness model in the National Guard and Reserves in order to sustain increased readiness prior to mobilization. In keeping with the emphasis on a highly capable reserve, this budget makes only relatively modest reductions in the ground-force Reserve components. Over the next 5 years, the Army Reserve will be sustained at 205,000 personnel, the Army National Guard will marginally decrease from 358,200 to 353,200 personnel, and the Marine Corps Reserve will sustain an end-strength level of 39,600 personnel. The Navy Reserve will decrease from 66,200 to 57,100 personnel over the next 5 years. Over the same span, the Air Force Reserve will decrease from 71,400 to 69,500 personnel, and the Air National Guard will decrease from 106,700 to 101,200 personnel. Another key part of preserving our ability to quickly adapt and mobilize is a strong and flexible industrial base. This budget recognizes that industry is our partner in the defense acquisition enterprise. A healthy industrial base means a profitable industrial base, but it also means a lean, efficient base that provides good value for the taxpayers' defense investments and increases in productivity over time. ENSURING QUALITY OF THE ALL-VOLUNTEER FORCE Now to the most fundamental element of our strategy and our decision-making process: our people. This budget recognizes that they, far more than any weapons system or technology, are the great strength of our U.S. military. All told, the fiscal year 2013 budget requests $135.1 billion for the pay and allowances of military personnel and $8.5 billion for family support programs vital to the well-being of servicemembers and their families. One of the guiding principles in our decisionmaking process was that we must keep faith with our troops and their families. For that reason, we were determined to protect family assistance programs, and we were able to sustain these important investments in this budget and continue efforts to make programs more responsive to the needs of troops and their families. Yet in order to build the force needed to defend the country under existing budget constraints, the growth in costs of military pay and benefits must be put on a sustainable course. This is an area of the budget that has grown by nearly 90 percent since 2001, or about 30 percent above inflation--while end strength has only grown by 3 percent. This budget contains a roadmap to address the costs of military pay, health care, and retirement in ways that are fair, transparent, and consistent with our fundamental commitments to our people. On military pay, there are no pay cuts. We have created sufficient room to allow for full pay raises in 2013 and 2014 that keep pace with increases in the private sector. That means for 2013, we propose a pay increase of 1.7 percent for servicemembers. However, we will provide more limited pay raises beginning in 2015--giving troops and their families fair notice and lead time before changes take effect. Let me be clear: nobody's pay is cut in this budget nor will anyone's pay be cut in the future years of this proposal. This budget devotes $48.7 billion to health care costs--an amount that has more than doubled over the last decade. In order to continue to control the growth of these costs, we are recommending increases in health care fees, co-pays and deductibles to be phased in over 4 to 5 years. None of the fee proposals in the budget would apply to Active- Duty servicemembers, survivors of servicemembers who died on Active Duty, or retirees who retired due to disability. Most of the changes will not affect the families of Active-Duty servicemembers--there will be no increases in health care fees or deductibles for families of active-duty servicemembers. Those most affected will be retirees--with the greatest impact on working-age retirees under the age of 65 still likely to be employed in the civilian sector. Even with these changes, the costs borne by retirees will remain below levels in most comparable private sector plans--as they should be. Proposed changes include: Further increasing enrollment fees for retirees under age 65 in the TRICARE Prime program, using a tiered approach based on retired pay that requires senior-grade retirees with higher retired pay to pay more and junior-grade retirees less; Establishing a new enrollment fee for the TRICARE Standard/Extra programs and increasing deductibles; Establishing a new enrollment fee for the TRICARE-for- Life program for retirees 65 and older, also using a tiered approach; Implementing additional increases in pharmacy co-pays in a manner that increases incentives for use of mail order and generic medicine; and Indexing fees, deductibles, pharmacy co-pays, and catastrophic caps to reflect the growth in national health care costs. We also feel that the fair way to address military retirement costs is to ask Congress to establish a commission with authority to conduct a comprehensive review of military retirement. But the President and the Department believe that the retirement benefits of those who currently serve should be protected by grandfathering their benefits. For those who serve today I will request there be no changes in retirement benefits. FULLY SUPPORTING DEPLOYED WARFIGHTERS The costs of Overseas Contingency Operations (OCO) are funded separately from the base budget in a stand-alone fiscal year 2013 request of $88.5 billion. That funding level represents a decrease of $26.6 billion from the fiscal year 2012 enacted level. This year's OCO request, which ensures that deployed troops have all the financial resources they need to conduct their challenging missions, primarily supports operations in Afghanistan but also requests relatively small sums for the Office of Security Cooperation in Iraq (OSC-I) and the repair or replacement of equipment redeploying from Iraq. Our fiscal year 2013 OCO request includes funding for added personnel pay and subsistence for deployed forces; communications; mobilizing Reserve component units; transportation; supplies; deployment and redeployment of all combat and support forces; force sustainment; and sustainment and replenishment of war reserve stocks. For fiscal year 2013 we request $5.7 billion in funding for the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). It is critically important that we maintain sufficient financial support to ANSF so that they can ultimately assume full security responsibility across Afghanistan. Much tough fighting lies ahead in Afghanistan, but the gradually improving situation permits the remainder of the U.S. surge force to redeploy by the end of September 2012, leaving 68,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan at that time. The fiscal year 2013 OCO request assumes a continued level of about 68,000 troops in Afghanistan. While future changes in troop levels may be implemented during fiscal year 2013, those decisions will be based on advice from field commanders about conditions on the ground. In Iraq, OCO funding supports continued security assistance and cooperation with Iraqi Security Forces through the OSC-I in the areas of common interest, including counterterrorism, counter-proliferation, maritime security, and air defense. This funding is critical for the U.S. to strengthen its long-term partnership with Iraq. Additionally, to ensure that U.S. forces redeployed from Iraq are ready and equipped for future operations, this funding replenishes equipment and stocks for these forces. A BALANCED PACKAGE Members of the committee: putting together this balanced package has been a difficult undertaking and, at the same time, an important opportunity to shape the force we need for the future. I believe we have developed a complete package, aligned to achieve our strategic aims. We have achieved buy-in from the Service Secretaries, the Service Chiefs, combatant commanders, and the senior enlisted leaders of the Department. Our strategy review preceded and guided the budgeting process. This strategy-first approach enabled the Department to balance strategic priorities, place individual budget decisions within a broader strategic context, and ultimately, to guide us in making some tough choices. As a result, the fiscal year 2013 request is a carefully balanced package that keeps America safe and sustains U.S. leadership abroad. As you take a look at the individual parts of this plan, I encourage you to do what the Department has done: to bear in mind the strategic trade-offs inherent in any particular budget decision, and the need to balance competing strategic objectives in a resource-constrained environment. Each decision needs to be judged on the basis of the overall strategy that it supports, recognizing that unwinding any one piece puts our whole package in jeopardy. The bottom line is that I believe there is little room for modification to preserve the force and capabilities we believe are needed to protect the country and fulfill assigned missions. Ultimately that means we will need your support and partnership to implement this vision of the future military. I understand how tough these issues can be, and that this is the beginning and not the end of this process. Make no mistake: the savings we are proposing will impact all 50 States. But it was this Congress that mandated, on a bi-partisan basis, that we reduce the defense budget, and we need your partnership to do this in a manner that preserves the strongest military in the world. This will be a test of whether reducing the deficit is about talk or action. My hope is that now that we see the sacrifice involved in reducing the defense budget by almost half a trillion dollars, Congress will be convinced of its important responsibility to make sure that we avoid sequestration. That would be a doubling of the cuts, another roughly $500 billion in additional cuts that would be required to take place through a meat-axe approach, and that we are convinced would hollow out the force and inflict severe damage on our National defense. So the leadership of this department, both military and civilian, is united behind the strategy that we have presented, and this budget. I look forward to working closely with you in the months ahead to do what the American people expect of their leaders: be fiscally responsible in developing the force for the future--a force that can defend the country, a forced that supports our men and women in uniform, and a force that is, and always will be, the strongest military in the world. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Secretary Panetta. General Dempsey. STATEMENT OF GEN MARTIN E. DEMPSEY, USA, CHAIRMAN, JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF General Dempsey. Thank you, Chairman Levin, Senator McCain, distinguished members of the committee. Thank you, as always, for this opportunity to discuss the President's defense budget proposal for fiscal year 2013. This budget represents a responsible investment in our Nation's security. At its core, it is an investment in people, the sons and daughters of America who serve this Nation in our military. Allow me to open with a few words about them and what they have accomplished. The last 10 years of war have been among the most challenging in our Nation's military history. Through it all, the joint force has persevered and it has prevailed. Our families have stood with us deployment after deployment after deployment and so have you. Together, we have fulfilled our solemn vow to protect and defend America, her citizens, and her interests. As I sit with you today, our service men and women remain globally engaged. They are deterring aggression, developing partners, delivering aid, and defeating our enemies. They stand ready, strong, and swift in every domain, every day. I had the privilege to be with a few of them while traveling to Afghanistan and Egypt this past week. As always, I witnessed extraordinary courage and skill--in the young soldiers just off patrol in the deep snows of the Hindu Kush, in the men and women of the NATO training mission managing the development of the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF), and the brave and vigilant Marine Corps security detachment in our embassy in Cairo, and in the superb junior airmen who flew us to the right place at the right time. They exemplify a professional military with a reliable record of performance. In just the past year, for example, we further crippled al Qaeda. We helped protect the Libyan people from near-certain slaughter, while affirming NATO's important role beyond the borders of Europe. We brought to a close more than 20 years of military operations in and over Iraq and, like we did in Iraq, we are steadily transitioning responsibility for security onto Afghan shoulders. We also helped Japan recover from a perfect storm of tragedy and destruction. Of course, these were just the most visible accomplishments. Behind the scenes and beneath the surface, we defended against cyber threats, sustained our nuclear deterrent posture, and worked with allies and partners to build capacity and to prevent conflict across the globe. We continue to provide this Nation with a wide range of options for dealing with the security challenges that confront us. An increasingly competitive and uncertain security environment demands that we be alert, responsive, adaptive, and dominant. This budget helps us do that. It's informed by a real strategy that makes real choices. It maintains our military's decisive edge and our global leadership. Moreover, it ensures we keep faith with the true source of our military strength, and that is our people. With this in mind, allow me to add a few additional comments to those of the Secretary. First, this budget should be considered holistically. I caution against viewing its programs in isolation because it represents a comprehensive and carefully devised set of decisions. It achieves balance among force structure, modernization, pay, and benefits. Changes that are not informed by this context risk upending the balance and compromising the force. Second, this budget represents a way point, not an end point, in the development of the joint force we will need for 2020 and beyond. It puts us on a path to restore versatility at an affordable cost. Specialized capabilities, once on the margins, become more central, even while we retain conventional overmatch. It builds a global and networked joint force that is ably led and always ready. Third, this budget honors commitments made to our military families. It does keep faith with them. There are no freezes or reductions in pay. There's no lessening in the quality of health care received by our Active-Duty servicemembers and medically wounded veterans. That said, we cannot ignore the increasing costs of pay and benefits. To manage costs, we need pragmatic reform. All of this can be done in a way that preserves our ability to recruit and retain America's talented youth. Finally, all strategies and the budgets to resource them carry risk. This one is no different. In my judgment, the risk lies not in what we can do, but in how much we can do and how often we can do it. This budget helps buy down that risk by investing in our people and in the joint capabilities they most need. To close, thank you. Thank you for keeping our military strong. Thank you for taking care of our military families, for supporting those who serve and who have served and who will serve. I know you share my pride in them. I look forward to your questions. [The prepared statement of General Dempsey follows:] Prepared Statement by GEN Martin E. Dempsey, USA Chairman Levin, Senator McCain, and distinguished members of the committee, it is my privilege to update you on the state of the United States' Armed Forces and to comment on the President's budget proposal for fiscal year 2013. The context for this year's posture testimony is unique. Our military has transitioned many of our major operations, and we have a new Defense Strategic Guidance that sets priorities. We are also facing real fiscal constraints and an increasingly competitive security environment. The President's proposed fiscal year 2013 defense budget accounts for these realities. It provides a responsible investment in our Nation's current and future security. GLOBAL MILITARY OPERATIONS Today our Armed Forces stand strong. We are proud of the performance and accomplishments of our men and women in uniform over the past year. They have carried out far-ranging missions with much success. They have defended our Homeland, deterred aggression, and kept our Nation immune from coercion. Despite a decade of continuous combat operations, our troops and their families remain resilient. U.S. Forces-Iraq recently completed its mission. More than 20 years of military operations in and over Iraq came to conclusion. The security of Iraq is now the responsibility of the Iraqi people, leaders, and security forces. We have transitioned to a normal military-to-military relationship. Diplomats and civilian advisors are now the face of the United States in Baghdad. To be sure, Iraq still faces challenges to the country's future. But as we look to that future, we will continue to build ties across Iraq to help the people and institutions capitalize on the freedom and opportunity we helped secure. In Afghanistan, we are seeing the benefits of the surge in combat forces begun in early 2010. The security situation is improving. By nearly every measure, violence has declined. The Taliban are less capable, physically and psychologically, than they were 2 years ago. Afghan and International Security Assistance Forces (ISAF) have maintained persistent pressure on insurgent groups and have wrested the initiative and momentum from them in much of the country. But these groups remain determined, and they continue to threaten the population and the government. Combat will continue. Key to long-term stability in Afghanistan is the development of the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF). In 2011, the Afghan National Army grew by 18 percent. The Afghan National Police grew by 20 percent. These forces, combined with the nascent but ever more capable Afghan Local Police, are steadily assuming responsibility for Afghan security. The process of transition began in July, and today, after nearly completing the second of five ``tranches'' of transition, Afghan security forces are now responsible for the day-to-day security of almost half of Afghanistan's population. Developing the ANSF, degrading insurgent capabilities, and turning over responsibilities have allowed us to begin a measured draw down of our forces in Afghanistan. We have withdrawn over 10,000 of the surge troops and will withdraw the remaining 23,000 by the end of this summer. By that time, we expect the ANSF to achieve their initial operating capability and to be responsible for securing nearly two-thirds of the Afghan population. They are on track to meet the goal of assuming full lead for security by the end of 2014. Sustaining progress in Afghanistan requires dealing with some significant challenges. The ANSF and other national and local government institutions require further development. Corruption remains pervasive and continues to undermine the capacity and legitimacy of government at all levels. Insurgent sanctuaries in Pakistan remain largely uncontested. Ultimately, much more work remains to achieve the political solutions necessary to end the fighting in Afghanistan. Our military has been vigilant and active in other areas and with other missions to keep America and our partners safe. We decapitated al Qaeda and pushed this terrorist network decidedly closer to strategic defeat through the successful special forces operation targeting Osama bin Laden. We supported NATO in its U.N. mission to protect civilians in Libya allowing them to end Muammar Qaddafi's tyrannical rule. We responded quickly to the devastating earthquakes and tsunami that struck Japan, saving lives and acting on our commitment to this key ally. We fended off cyber intrusions against our military's computer networks and systems. We helped counter aggression and provocation from Iran and North Korea. A TIME OF TRANSITION While our military continues to capably and faithfully perform this wide array of missions, we are currently in the midst of several major transitions. Any one of them alone would be difficult. Taken together, all three will test our people and our leadership at every level. First, we are transitioning from a war-time footing to a readiness footing. With the end of our operations in Iraq and Libya and the ongoing transition of security responsibilities in Afghanistan, our troops are steadily returning home. From a peak of more than 200,000 troops deployed to combat 2 years ago, we have fewer than 90,000 today. This shift cannot lead us to lose focus on ongoing combat operations. But, it does mean we must give attention to restoring our readiness for full spectrum operations. We need to reset and refit, and in many cases replace, our war-torn equipment. We need to modernize systems intentionally passed over for periodic upgrading during the last decade. We must retrain our personnel on skills used less often over the last decade. We will have to do all of this in the context of a security environment that is different than the one we faced 10 years ago. We cannot simply return to the old way of doing things, and we cannot forget the lessons we have learned. As described in the Department's recently released strategic guidance, we should adjust our missions, our posture, and our organizational structure in order to adapt to ever evolving challenges and threats. Second, our military is transitioning to an era of more constrained resources. The days of growing budgets are gone, and as an institution we must become more efficient and transparent. We must carefully and deliberately evaluate trade-offs in force structure, acquisition, and compensation. We must make the hard choices, focus on our priorities, and overcome bureaucratic and parochial tendencies. In sum, we must recommit ourselves to being judicious stewards of the Nation's resources. Third, tens of thousands of our veterans--and their families--are facing the transition to civilian life. Many enlistments are coming to their normal conclusion, but we are also becoming a leaner force. As we do this, we must help our veterans find education opportunities, meaningful employment, and first-class health care. We must pay particular attention to those bearing the deepest wounds of war, including the unseen wounds. We must help those who have given so much cope with--and where possible, avoid--significant long-term challenges such as substance abuse, divorce, depression, domestic violence, and homelessness. Addressing these issues is not the exclusive responsibility of the Services or veterans organizations. How we respond, as a military community and as a Nation, conveys our commitment to our veterans and their families. It will also directly affect our ability to recruit and retain our Nation's best in the future. I have outlined several priorities for the Joint Force to help us anticipate and navigate the challenges these transitions present. We will maintain focus on achieving our national objectives in our current conflicts. We will begin creating the military of our future--the Joint Force of 2020. We will also confront what being in the Profession of Arms means in the aftermath of war. Above all else, we will keep faith with our military family. In doing all these things, we will provide an effective defense for the country and strengthen the military's covenant of trust with the American people. A RESPONSIBLE INVESTMENT The President's fiscal year 2013 Department of Defense base budget of $525 billion and overseas contingency operations (OCO) budget of $88 billion represent a responsible investment in our Nation's security. The decisions underlying them flow from the strategic guidance the Department of Defense issued last month. This guidance set priorities for assessing our programs, force structure, and spending in the context of a persistently dangerous and increasingly competitive security environment. With those priorities in mind, the budget proposal strikes an appropriate and necessary balance between succeeding in today's conflicts and preparing for tomorrow's challenges. It accounts for real risks and real fiscal constraints, marrying versatility with affordability. The tradeoffs were complex, and the choices were tough. They will produce $259 billion in savings over the next 5 years and a total of $487 billion over the next 10 years. They will not lead to a military in decline. Rather, this budget will maintain our military's decisive edge and help sustain America's global leadership. It will preserve our ability to protect our vital national interests and to execute our most important missions. Moreover, it will keep faith with the true source of our military's strength--our people. The merits of this budget should be viewed in the context of an evolving global security environment and a longer term plan for the Joint Force. Coming on the heels of a decade of war, this budget begins the process of rebalancing our force structure and our modernization efforts and aligns them with our strategy. Essentially, we are developing today the Joint Force the Nation will need in 2020, and our plans to build this force will unfold over the course of several budget cycles. This budget is the first step--a down payment. If we fail to step off properly, our recovery will be difficult, and our ability to provide the Nation with the broad and decisive military options will diminish. It is worth addressing head-on some of the major changes we are planning as we adapt to changing global opportunities and challenges. Just as this budget must be viewed in the context of a broader plan, these changes must be viewed in the context of our evolving force. They represent a comprehensive, carefully devised package of decisions that strikes a fine balance. They are not, and cannot be viewed as, individual, isolated measures. In all cases, needed capabilities are preserved or, when necessary, generated, through one or several programs. This budget will make critical investments in our future force. Certain specialized capabilities, once on the margins, will move to the forefront. Networked special operations, cyber, and Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance will become increasingly central. The results will be a Joint Force that is global and networked, that is versatile and innovative, and that is ably led and always ready. This force will be prepared to secure global access and to respond to global contingencies. We will be a military that is able to do more than one thing at a time--to win any conflict, anywhere. Particular attention will be placed on our anti-access/area-denial capabilities. The proliferation of technology threatens our unfettered access to the global commons--access that is fundamental to global commerce and security. As we rebalance our global posture to emphasize the Asia-Pacific region and the Middle East, we are adjusting our operating constructs and the systems we employ. This includes divesting some outdated ships, planes, and equipment as well as investing in new programs. We will also commit to our partnerships and to helping develop our partners' security capabilities. Similarly, this force will place added focus on our military's cyber defense capabilities. The threats to the average American's day- to-day life and our military capabilities that emanate from cyber space have evolved faster than many could have imagined. We must adapt to these threats with similar adroitness and capacity. This budget allows for us to expand many of our nascent cyber capabilities and to better protect our defense networks. Similarly, bipartisan cyber legislation being introduced in Congress is a good first step in developing protection for our Nation's critical infrastructure. With much work to be done, we look forward to working with agencies across the government and with our allies and partners to confront this broad range of emerging threats. While some additional capabilities for our Joint Force will be needed, others will not. The Joint Force of the future will be leaner than today's. We will no longer be sized for large scale, prolonged stability operations. As a result, we expect to draw down the Army from 562,000 to 490,000 by the end of fiscal year 2017, and the Marine Corps from over 202,100 to 182,100 by the end of fiscal year 2016. Some of this reduction was planned several years ago when Congress authorized temporary end strength increases to support our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. But in making ourselves leaner, we will not make the mistakes of previous draw downs. We will not retain organizational structures that lack the people, training, and equipment necessary to perform the tasks we expect from them. We will be realistic about the organizations we keep, while also maintaining our ability to reconstitute and mobilize forces. We will still be able to respond to any large scale mobilization against us. To do this, the Joint Force will retain capacity in our Reserve components and our industrial base should they be required to surge. We will maintain the Army Reserve end strength at 205,000 and reduce the Army National Guard by only 5,000 down to 353,200. The Marine Corps Reserves will be retain their current strength. Another major concern among our troops, their families, retirees, and with the American public is military compensation and benefits. I want to make it clear that cuts in spending will not fall on the shoulders of our troops. There are no proposed freezes or reductions in pay. There is no change to the high quality health care our Active-Duty members and medically retired Wounded Warriors receive. But we cannot ignore some hard realities. Pay and benefits are now roughly one third of defense spending. Pay will need to grow more slowly in the future. We are also proposing a commission to review of military retirement. To control the growth of healthcare costs, we are also recommending changes to TRICARE. These adjustments include modest, new or phased-in increases in health care fees, co-pays, and deductibles largely for our retirees--but not our Active-Duty servicemembers. Even with these increases, TRICARE will remain one of the finest medical benefits in the country. Overall, these proposed changes value both the demands of military service and our duty to be good stewards of the Nation's fiscal resources. They will sustain the recruitment, retention, and readiness of the talented personnel we need. Most importantly, they will sustain our enduring commitment to our troops and their families--we must never break faith with them. I want to note, however, that keeping faith with our service men and women is not just about pay and benefits. It is also about ensuring we remain the best trained, best equipped, and best led force on the planet. The last, and perhaps most critical issue, is risk. This budget and the strategy it supports allow us to apply decisive force simultaneously across a range of missions and activities around the globe. They mitigate many risks, but they accept some as well, as all strategies must. The primary risks lie not in what we can do, but in how much we can do and how fast we can do it. The risks are in time and capacity. We have fully considered these risks, and I am convinced we can properly manage them by ensuring we keep the force in balance, investing in new capabilities, and preserving a strong Reserve component. We can also compensate through other means, such as effective diplomacy and strong partnerships. I believe that these risks are acceptable and that we will face greater risk if we do not change from our previous approaches. CONCLUSION In the upcoming year, our Armed Forces will build on the past year's achievements, adapt to emergent challenges, seize new opportunities, and continue to provide for our common defense. We will continue to face threats to our security, whether from aggressive states or violent terrorist organizations. But our military will be ready for them, and our response will be a source of pride for the American people. In all of our efforts, we will aim to maintain strength of character and professionalism--at the individual and institutional level--that is beyond reproach. As we embark on this critical new course, we will need Congress' support to help us build the Joint Force the Nation needs and to strengthen our relationship with the American people. As I stated before, this budget and the choices that underlie it should be understood in the context of the comprehensive, carefully balanced, multi-year plan they support. These choices were tough. Some decisions will be controversial. But they call for an investment that allows our force to take the steps necessary to ensure our Nation's defense for years to come. We ask Congress to support this budget and, more importantly, to avoid the deep and indiscriminant cuts that sequestration would impose. I thank this committee, and the entire Congress, for all you have done to support our men and women under arms and their families. Your resolute attention to their needs and to our security has been both invaluable and greatly appreciated. Chairman Levin. Thank you so much, General. Mr. Hale, do you have any opening comments to make? Mr. Hale. No, sir, thank you. Chairman Levin. Okay, let's have a 7-minute round. I doubt that we'll get to a second round, but if there is any time after our first round, because I expect a good turnout, we will try a very short second round. General Dempsey, let me start with you. Do you and each of the Joint Chiefs of Staff fully support the new Defense Strategic Guidance? General Dempsey. Yes, Senator, we do. Chairman Levin. Do you and each of the Joint Chiefs of Staff fully support the President's fiscal year 2013 budget request? General Dempsey. Yes, Senator, we do. Chairman Levin. Now, can you tell us why? General Dempsey. Because we addressed it in the order in which you just presented it. Faced with the reality of a new fiscal environment, we took a look at our strategy and we made what we thought were important adjustments to it, not just based on the new fiscal reality, but also based on the lessons of 10 years of war and where we thought the security environment would take us in the out-years. I'm an advocate of looking beyond this particular budget submission, out to 2020, and we did that, with not only the Service Chiefs, but also with the combatant commanders. Then, having decided on what adjustments to make to our strategy, we built a budget to support it. So for that reason, we support it. Chairman Levin. General, you made reference to the risks that are increased when there are budget reductions. Would you expand on that, as you did in your prepared testimony, as to whether those risks are acceptable and why? General Dempsey. As I said, Senator, every strategy incurs risks because there's never--at least I've never in my 38 years experienced any strategy that was completely unconstrained. So I think it's important to note that there's always risk in every strategy and in every budget to support it. There's two kinds of risk we deal with. One is risk to our missions: Can we accomplish the tasks given to us by the national command authority for freedom of access, to defeat our enemies, to deter aggression? Then the other is risk to force, which gets at a phrase that would be familiar to you in terms of operations tempo: How much can we ask of the All-Volunteer Force in terms of its deployments and redeployments and redeployments? In both cases, we assess the risk to mission and the risk to force. We have found that there are portions of our capabilities that are more stressed. Again, that's not anything new to us. What we've been doing now for the past month and will continue to do is to look for ways to mitigate those risks. But we're very confident, because we've worked this collaboratively, that we can mitigate risks by adapting lessons from the last 10 years of war, new emerging capabilities. I've mentioned two notable ones to you in the past, special operating forces and cyber. The integration of all those and the interdependence of the joint force is what allows us to mitigate the risk to our operations plans and to do so at a sustainable rate. But there are risks, because there is always uncertainty in the future. Chairman Levin. Now to both of you: The OCO funding level of $88.4 billion is based on the assumption that there will be 68,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan for all of fiscal year 2013. You reiterated that, Secretary Panetta, in your opening statement. Now, that assumes that there will be no further drawdown of U.S. forces from Afghanistan during the 12 months after the 33,000 U.S. surge forces are withdrawn by the summer of this year. That's what the budget assumes. But last June, when the President announced the plans for the drawdown of the U.S. surge forces, he also said that after reduction of those surge forces, ``Our troops will continue to come home at a steady pace, as ASF move into the lead.'' First, General Dempsey, are we on track to complete the withdrawal of the 33,000 U.S. surge force this summer? General Dempsey. Yes, sir, we are. If I could just elaborate a bit, General Allen's already reduced the force by 10,000. I don't yet have his plan for the reduction of the additional 23,000, but in a visit with him last week he assured me that he would have that plan to us by about the 1st of April. Chairman Levin. Do you continue to support the President's decision to withdraw the U.S. surge force by the end of the summer? General Dempsey. I do and will continue to do so, unless General Allen comes back in to me and tells me we're incurring too much risk. But my own personal observation at this point is yes. Chairman Levin. Secretary Panetta, how do you square the fiscal year 2013 OCO funding assumption that the troop level of 68,000 will remain in Afghanistan through fiscal year 2013 with the President's statement that U.S. troops will continue to draw down after this summer ``at a steady pace as ASF assume the lead for security''? Secretary Panetta. Mr. Chairman, as the President stated, we'll continue that process. But at this point, no decisions have been made as to how that will take place, because we're focusing, obviously, on the drawdown of the surge. The number that we have there is, frankly, a target number in order to support the OCO funding that we would need for the future. Chairman Levin. Will the decision be made as to when reductions will be made from the 68,000 level--and that level, again, is going to be reached by the end of this summer. When will that decision be made on further reductions after the 68,000 level is achieved? Secretary Panetta. I think the target right now is obviously to focus on the reduction of the surge. As General Dempsey pointed out, we haven't received the plan from General Allen as to how we'll complete the reduction of 23,000. Once we've done that and we've learned the lessons from that, I think then we would apply it to deciding the next steps with regards to further reductions. Chairman Levin. That will be done by the end of the summer as currently contemplated? Secretary Panetta. Right. Chairman Levin. So when would the next decision be made on reductions beyond the surge reductions? Secretary Panetta. I suspect we'll begin that discussion process in the latter part of this year. Chairman Levin. Begin it or make a decision by the end of the year? Secretary Panetta. I assume we'll begin it, and if we're fortunate, we'll be able to make that decision. But the first thing is to discuss the lessons that we've learned and what we should apply and what level of force are we going to need for 2013. Chairman Levin. Do you assume there will be further reductions beyond the 68,000 during fiscal year 2013? Secretary Panetta. Again, no decisions have been made. Chairman Levin. You assume that there will be. Secretary Panetta. I assume that, in line with what the President said, we'll continue to make transitions downward. Chairman Levin. Would there be savings then from any additional reductions below 68,000? Secretary Panetta. Will there be savings? Of course. Whatever we decide to do, it will achieve some savings. Chairman Levin. Senator McCain. Senator McCain. I thank the witnesses again. General Dempsey, were you asked by the administration to perform a risk assessment to our national security interests as a result of these cuts? General Dempsey. I have been asked and it's also codified in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that I perform a Chairman's risk assessment annually. Senator McCain. Is that forthcoming? General Dempsey. I have completed it. DOD has it, and they are required to submit with it a risk mitigation strategy. Senator McCain. So we have not received your risk assessment yet? General Dempsey. You have not, sir. Senator McCain. I want to return just for a second. Secretary Panetta, you again talk about the cataclysmic effects of sequestration. We are in total agreement. I hope in your meetings with the President that you will urge him to sit down with us and see if there are ways that we can avoid the effects of this. Have you made any plans yet to comply with the effects of sequestration in 2013? General Dempsey. No, we haven't. Senator McCain. In your view, Secretary Panetta, is Iraq a stable and self-reliant nation? Secretary Panetta. Iraq is a nation that has the capability to govern and secure itself. Does it continue to face risks in that process? Does it continue to face challenges in that process? It certainly does. Senator McCain. Do we still have U.S. military forces operating in Iraq? Secretary Panetta. We have a small number that are assigned there, approximately, I believe the number we're looking at is about 600 military and civilians that are assigned to the security operations there. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, I know you just returned from Egypt. All Americans are concerned about the events there concerning Americans who have had to move to the U.S. embassy in order to preserve their safety and security. We realize the absolute criticality of our relationship with Egypt and the role that Egypt plays in the Middle East. What advice, what recommendation, do you have as to how the U.S. Government should be handling this very, very tough situation? General Dempsey. Senator, I had planned this trip to Egypt before the nongovernmental organization crisis, and it is a crisis, occurred. So when I met with Field Marshal Tentawi, General Annan, and General Mwafi, the key leaders with whom we interact and have interacted for decades, I explained to them that I was coming there to talk to them about our military-to- military relationship, about Syria, about Lebanon, about the Sinai, but that I couldn't do that because we had this issue that was an impediment to that. I spent about a day and a half in conversation with them, encouraging them in the strongest possible terms to resolve this so that our military-to-military relationship could continue. Senator McCain. The result of those conversations? General Dempsey. I am convinced that potentially they were underestimating the impact of this on our relationship. When I left there, there was no doubt that they understood the seriousness of it. But I'd like to add, Senator, I know of the amendment that's being proposed to break our military relationship and cut off all aid, and I think my personal military judgment is that would be a mistake. Senator McCain. I want to assure you that we are discussing that and ways to certainly avoid that action at this time. But I hope you explain to the rulers, who are the military and leftovers from the Mubarak regime, that this situation is really not acceptable to the American people. Our relationship with Egypt is vital, but the fact is that the welfare of our citizens is even more vital. General Dempsey. We completely agree, sir, and I did make that clear. Senator McCain. General, would you think it's a good idea to trade five high-ranking Taliban as a, ``confidence-building measure'' to move the negotiations with the Taliban forward? General Dempsey. I have some issues with the reconciliation, but generally speaking I'm in support of reconciliation. But I am concerned about our ability to maintain vigilance and control of those individuals. So I am supportive of reconciliation. Senator McCain. I don't know of any living person who isn't. General Dempsey. I join that group. Senator McCain. Does that mean that you, at this particular moment in time, would support the trade or the release to Qatar, understanding that under very loose security conditions, would be advisable at this time? General Dempsey. Sir, the Secretary has some certification requirements by law, and I'm supportive of the Secretary of Defense's approach to that and supportive of his effort to ensure we have those certifications. Senator McCain. Again I ask, with respect, for your opinion as to whether you think it's a good idea or not at this time? General Dempsey. Yes, I do. Senator McCain. Do you agree that it's a good idea, Secretary Panetta? Secretary Panetta. Absolutely no decisions have been made along this line. I can tell you this, that, based on the law that's passed by Congress, I have to certify that anybody who leaves Guantanamo cannot wind up going back to the enemy, and I have to be convinced that those kinds of protections are in place before I certify that anything like that happens. I have made very clear that unless I am convinced that in this kind of situation those steps are taken to ensure that these individuals do not wind up going back to the battlefield, I'm not going to certify that kind of transfer. Senator McCain. Even though approximately a quarter of those who have been released in the past have gone back into the fight. What is the progress of our negotiations with the Afghan Government, President Karzai, on a long-term security agreement, which we failed to reach in Iraq? What are the prospects of that and what are you expecting, and can you give us a timeframe? Secretary Panetta. We are continuing to work with President Karzai and our counterparts in Afghanistan to try to develop and agree on a strategic agreement. There are two areas that we still have difficulties with, one of which involves the transfer of detention facilities. The other involves night-time raids. We continue to try to see if we can work out some kind of compromise on those issues. As far as the basic agreement, I think most of the elements, frankly, are in place. So I'm confident that, hopefully within the next few weeks, we'll be able to reach some kind of agreement. Senator McCain. I thank you. I thank the witnesses. I would just add a comment. General, when the enemy thinks you're leaving, it's very unlikely in my study of history that they're ready to make an agreement, and they certainly have that impression throughout that part of the world. I thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator McCain. Senator Lieberman. Senator Lieberman. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, General Dempsey, Mr. Hale, good morning and thank you for your service and your testimony. As I look at the budget that's been submitted and I hear your testimony today, it seems to me that in this budget the U.S. military and our national security are being asked to pay the price for the fiscal irresponsibility of our government over the last decade. The budget that you've submitted to us certainly in its bottom line is one that you were mandated to submit by the BCA that Congress adopted and the President signed last summer. But I must say as one member of this committee, one Member of the U.S. Senate, that as I look at what you have had to do to meet the bottom line requirements of the BCA, it represents, in my opinion, unacceptable risk to our national security, without proportionate changes in the threats that we face around the world. This budget for the coming fiscal year would represent an 8 percent reduction in spending beneath what was planned in the 5-year defense plan for the coming year, a 9 percent reduction for the 5 years. It, as we've discussed, would require the reduction of our Army and Marine Corps by 125,000 personnel. It would call for the termination or delay of several, in my opinion, critical defense equipment systems. It's hard for me to conclude that there's any reason you would make such a recommendation other than the fact that you're required by law to do it. In other words, what drives this presentation is the budgetary pressure, as I said, the accumulated weight of the fiscal irresponsibility of our government over the last decade, and the specific requirement of the BCA, not the threat environment in the world. Mr. Secretary, as you said, and I agree, this morning: ``The United States still faces a complex array of security challenges across the globe. We're still a nation at war in Afghanistan. We still face threats from terrorism. There's dangerous proliferation of lethal weapons and materials. The behavior of Iran and North Korea threaten global stability. There's continuing turmoil and unrest in the Middle East. Rising powers in Asia are testing international relationships and there are growing concerns about cyber intrusions and attacks,'' said by you, Mr. Secretary, this morning. I agree with all that, and I think in that context my conclusion, I state again, is that there's always risk, but that the risk involved in this budget is unacceptable. Therefore, I believe that we have to have the political courage both in facing the budget for fiscal year 2013 and the threat of sequestration to work together across party lines and with the President and the administration to reduce the impact of these proposed cuts. We have to do it responsibly. We either have to find savings elsewhere or we have to have the political guts to raise revenues to pay for an adequate defense to, in my opinion, fulfill our constitutional responsibility to provide for the common defense. You have complied with the BCA in making this budget recommendation to us, but in my opinion, if we accept it, we're not fulfilling our responsibility under the Constitution to provide for the common defense. So I hope we can work together to essentially alter what we required you to do in the BCA and to do it in a fiscally responsible way. There is risk here and I appreciate, General Dempsey, that in response to Senator McCain's question, you said that you'd be preparing a Chairman's risk assessment for us. The Defense Strategic Guidance that DOD did, issued in January, really is the equivalent of a follow-on to a Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR). In the QDR, of course, we require a Chairman's risk assessment. I hope, Mr. Chairman, Senator McCain, that we don't act on this request and that the Appropriations Committees don't act on a budget request for DOD, before we get your risk assessment, because I think it's that important. But for now, since, Mr. Secretary, you said quite directly, with the directness that we've come to expect of you, that there is risk here, inevitably. You can't cut this much money out of the defense budget without risk. So I wanted to ask you and General Dempsey in advance of the formal report, what are the two or three top risks that you are concerned about that this budget places on our military and on our national strategy? Secretary Panetta. Senator, first of all, I'm abiding by the law, the law that was passed by Congress that required the reductions that we've proposed. I think, just to your comment, we have tried to step up to the plate and do our duty here. I think in weighing how you address this issue, you also have to take into consideration the national security threat that comes from the huge deficits and the huge debt that we're running. We're running a debt now that's comparable to our gross domestic product (GDP). At some point, Congress and the President have to address that larger issue. What I'm doing here is basically doing my part, as dictated by Congress. With regards to the threats, as I said, you can't take a half a trillion dollars out of the defense budget and not incur some risks. The main concerns that I see are that we are going to have a smaller force, and when you have a smaller force the ability to move that force where you have to is not going to be as easy as it would be with a larger force, the ability to move quickly, to be agile, to be able to deploy them. I think we can do it under the plan we've presented, but it clearly is an additional risk. The risk of mobilizing if we face a serious crisis and we have the need to mobilize, our ability to mobilize quickly, to pull the force together, as we had to do, frankly, after September 11, our ability to be able to do that and respond quickly and be able to deploy that force involves some risks. I think we've designed the way to do that by keeping a strong Guard and a strong Reserve, but nevertheless, that's an additional risk. We depend an awful lot on technology here. I think technology is very important, but our ability to develop that technology, to make sure that it works, to make sure that we have that leap-ahead capability, is something that involves some risks. Lastly, as I said, when you shave the budget by a half a trillion dollars, it leaves very little margin of error. Senator Lieberman. Right. Secretary Panetta. That, I think, is probably the biggest risk of all. General Dempsey. If I have time, Senator, I'd like to respond, because I will preview my risk assessment for you. I did not assess unacceptable risk in my assessment, and I don't believe this budget incurs unacceptable risk. I will tell you that I am prepared to say that sequestration would pose unacceptable risk, and here's why it's important to note. It's pretty clear. There's physics involved. In this budget we have decided to off-ramp a certain number of service men and women, and we've about maxed out our ability to do that with the proper dignity and respect to the force. So 10,000, 15,000 a year is about as many as you can ask to leave and still have enough influence on how they do that. That's maxed out right now. It's pretty clear to me that we're going to have some challenges with infrastructure and changes to it, whether this committee and others agree with our recommendation for BRAC. So if we fix those two variables in sequestration, I can't ask soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines to leave quicker than they're going to leave, and I can't touch infrastructure--sequestration leaves me three places to go to find the additional money: operations, maintenance, and training. That's the definition of a hollow force. Senator Lieberman. I thank you both for your answers. They're helpful to me. With all respect, I consider this budget to represent unacceptable risk to our national strategy, and I hope members of this committee across party lines will work together to reduce that risk in a fiscally responsible way. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Lieberman. Senator Inhofe. Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me just get on the record, Secretary Panetta, that there will be some of us at this table, and I'd be one of them, that would be opposing another BRAC round, really for two reasons: one, I think we've reduced our force, our capability, to an unacceptable level, and to bring our infrastructure down to meet what I consider to be as a member of this committee an unacceptable level, I think, is something I would not want to do. Then the second thing is, the problem we're facing right now is really an immediate problem. Everything is on fire. We're trying to put out the biggest fires. I'm going from memory now, but as I recall, all these BRAC rounds--and I've been here since the very first one--you lose money in the first 5 years. So it's not going to really gain anything in terms of that. So there's going to be opposition up here. Secretary Panetta, I saw you on television on 60 Minutes, and I didn't envy you when you had to answer the question, to stop and think about how many combat operations there are, and you started counting on your fingers. So it is something that we've been talking about here. It is something very serious. But when you talk about the budget, I just want to get in here, so that--now that we have the President's new budget, we keep hearing about inheriting deficits and all of this. During the 8 years of President Bush, and these are the Office of Management and Budget's (OMB) figures, it was right at $2 trillion. This President in his budget that he's proposed is $5.3 trillion in just 4 years. So, obviously, you're talking about just a huge amount of money. I saw in this morning's Washington Post they're talking about everything is growing in government, except--there it is--the military. I agree with the statements of the two previous speakers, that this is supposed to be our number one concern up here, defending our country. So anyway, I just would like to not press the thing. It's already been talked about enough on risk. But I only ask the question: When you actually meet with the Chairman and you come up with your risk assessment, when did you say that would be? Secretary Panetta. I anticipate it will be over here by the end of the month. Senator Inhofe. Okay. One of the commands that doesn't get a lot of attention is U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), and we remember that was divided into three commands. I think everyone in this room knows that we have done the right thing. However, I look at it as the forgotten command. It doesn't seem to get the attention. One of the things about AFRICOM is it gets its resources from the U.S. SOF that are in Europe, and right now, excepting the fact that as the pressure gets on in the Middle East, a lot of the terrorism, the potential terrorism, is going down through Djibouti and the Horn of Africa and spreading out there, so one of the great things that's happening with AFRICOM is the SOF are training the Africans. The number breaks down to about one SOF guy or gal is going to be responsible for 100 forces. I've seen this down there. I know it's happening. So the question I'd ask you, do you think there are impacts by moving out of the U.S. European Command (EUCOM) some of the SOF insofar as Africa is concerned? Secretary Panetta. First, I agree with you on the benefits of having an AFRICOM focused on those issues on that continent. Actually, we source our requirements into Africa and elsewhere through a global force management process. So it tends to be that European SOF have a particular habitual relationship, but there could be SOF and, for that matter, general purpose forces employed in Africa. We move the force around where it's needed. So I don't think the issue you described there with EUCOM will have any effect on Africa. Senator Inhofe. I'm glad to hear that. I appreciate that. This is an issue that no one's talked about yet and I don't know why I've been so close to it, but a good friend of mine, Specialist Christopher D. Horton, was killed over there. In fact, I was supposed to be meeting with him in Afghanistan a month later, but he was killed. His wife, Jane Horton, has worked for me and we've become very sensitive to the redacted investigation reports to families. I've talked to General Odierno about this. We've made progress on this. But I'm hoping that you will help us continue with that, because we have some of them--in the case of one of them, it went all the way from May 2010 until just about a week ago. I'd like to have some special attention given to that issue. The families of Specialist Augustus J. Vacari and Second Lieutenant Jered W. Ewy were killed in July 2011 and I think they should have their reports. So we're making progress, but I'm hoping that that's something that, with all these problems we're dealing with, that you'll be aware of and want to be of some help. General Dempsey. Could I just respond briefly, Senator? Senator Inhofe. Yes. General Dempsey. I'm very aware of that, and in fact, as you recall, I was at Specialist Horton's funeral with you. I just want to make two points. One is, this is the first conflict in which we've done a collateral investigation on every death, the first time in the history of warfare. We've learned the hard way, it's very resource intensive and it's important to get it right. The timeline on which these investigations are provided to families has been gradually improving and is the same, it's important to note, for Active, Guard, and Reserve. So it's not that the Active families get the investigation done faster than the Guard and Reserve. It's just a very challenging task, one which we're addressing. Senator Inhofe. Yes, I understand that. We went back and checked between the Active and the regular component and that's right. My question actually is meant to be a compliment, because we're making great progress on that. General Dempsey. Well, then, I withdraw my comments. [Laughter.] Senator Inhofe. In looking at the reset, we're going to be looking at a real problem after having gone through this for 12 years, and it's going to be--my concern is that it comes from the right sources, that it's not going to come from the base budget. Is it your intention to have this come from the OCO when this time is before us? Do you think it will have a deteriorating effect on the base budget, on the reset, the cost of reset? General Dempsey. That's exactly why the OCO bill tends to be as high as it is, because we're not just looking at the cost of current operating forces. It's the recapitalization challenge we face beyond that. Is that a fair statement, Bob? Mr. Hale. Yes. Senator Inhofe. The last thing, because my time has expired, I had occasion to go down to Fort Worth and see the progress, what's happening right now with the F-35. There have been a lot of delays and I would just hope that we have a commitment from the two of you to progress on that program, because that's a very needed platform that we will be pursuing. Secretary Panetta. Senator, we need a fifth generation fighter. The F-35 represents that fifth generation fighter. We're committed to it. We just want to make sure it's done right. Senator Inhofe. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Inhofe. Senator Reed. Senator Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Secretary, General Dempsey, Mr. Hale. We've talked a lot, and I think appropriately so, about the risks to the national security of the United States. But those risks are mitigated, not simply by what's done in the DOD budget; it's also mitigated by what's done in the Department of State (DOS) budget, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) budget, TSA, the FBI, a whole host of agencies that contribute directly and indirectly to the national security of the United States. We've talked about the sequester, but to simply shift those costs in a potential sequester without additional revenue, strictly do it by cutting more, will invariably catch the FBI, DHS, TSA, contracting, and other functions that might not be in the purview of DOD, but significantly contribute to the risk that we run as a Nation. Is that an accurate perception, Mr. Secretary? Secretary Panetta. Oh, absolutely. I think, Senator, national security is dependent on all of the things you just cited, but frankly, it's dependent on more. We're talking about sequester on defense, but sequester also takes place on the domestic side of the budget. Very frankly, our national security is dependent not just on the national defense side of that ledger; it's dependent on the quality of life that we provide for our citizens. So all of that could be impacted through sequester. Senator Reed. One other aspect of this whole debate, as has been pointed out, has been, particularly with respect to those platforms that you've decided are not affordable at this juncture. But I would presume--and, General Dempsey, you might comment--that one of your calculations is not just the number of platforms, but the capability of platforms. As you've made-- particularly when it comes to both aviation platforms and ships, that you and your colleagues have made careful calculations about increased capabilities with those remaining ships versus what you'd have to do with the airplanes; is that accurate? General Dempsey. It is accurate, Senator. We mapped the budget decisions to the strategies. Fundamentally, are we going to deliver the strategy we've described, given the decisions we're about to make. As we've talked for years, we are moving toward platforms that are both more capable, but also multi-role. So for example, the A-10, and by the way, the uniform I wear, I'm a huge advocate of the A-10, the Warthog, because it provides close air support. But we're at a point where we think it's prudent to force ourselves into a more multi-role capability in that regard. So we did, we mapped the decisions to the strategy. Senator Reed. Thank you very much. One of the other aspects that's been brought up, and I think it goes to my initial question about the broader scope of national security, is that proactive engagement. I think one of the lessons of the last few years, proactive engagement is very helpful to us. Had we been more engaged in some countries, we might have mitigated the dangers we faced in the last decade. When you talk about your meeting in Egypt, when you talk about your multiple meetings in Pakistan, when you talk about-- a lot of that is, one might argue, just as critical to national security, but is not measured in terms of brigades or lift, airlift, et cetera. It goes also to the issue of special forces, not so much in their counterterrorism mission, but in their training and their collaboration mission. Can you comment on, General Dempsey, on how this budget will encourage proactive engagement at every level? General Dempsey. We've accepted as a core competency of all the Services building partner capacity. So when you have a chance to have Ray Odierno in here, for example, he'll talk about his desire to meet our strategy by taking general purpose forces who have been completely consumed in Afghanistan and who will be less consumed now and applying them in that role, a regionally aligned brigade, for example. So AFRICOM has a U.S. Army brigade in the Army Force Generation readiness cycle that can deploy in any number of ways, as headquarters, or it can send teams, it can reorganize itself, to go and engage nations in the particular combatant where it might be needed. So I think this budget does that and it is one of the ways that we are mitigating risk, as you suggest. Senator Reed. Mr. Secretary, you suggested and I think you said that one of the fastest growing areas of cost in your budget is personnel costs, particularly health care costs. You're looking at a very tight budget this year. I think even if we're able to settle some of our political fights up here, the idea of the defense growing at the rate it grew over the last decade is not within anyone's purview. At some point, if you don't take effective steps with respect to personnel costs, it becomes so big, in my view, that it eats into what is the great risk General Dempsey sees in sequestration: it all comes out of operations, maintenance, and training, and suddenly you have a force that is there, but it's not capable. Do you have a notion of sort of how much time we have left before this, these uncontrolled, unless we take steps, these costs eat up all of the operations and maintenance? Secretary Panetta. As I mentioned, this is an area of the budget that's grown by 90 percent, and it consumes now close to half of the defense budget. Right, Bob? Mr. Hale. About a third. Secretary Panetta. About a third, about a third of the defense budget is in the compensation area. The problem is at that rate of growth that's going on, it's moving more and more into these other key areas of the defense budget and crowding them out. So if compensation is not touched, if we don't control the costs of growth in the compensation area, what it means is that we're going to have to take it out of force structure, we're going to have to take it out of training, we're going to have to take it out of other systems, and it's going to mean that ultimately we won't have a balanced approach to dealing with the defense savings that we need to deal with. So even in talking with members, in talking with the generals, in talking with the chiefs, they acknowledge that, as tough as this is--and it is tough, because it affects, obviously, troops and their families and retirees--but if we don't begin the process of developing some kind of cost control in the out-years and limiting the growth that's taking place, then we're going to pay a very high price within the next few years. Senator Reed. Is that your conclusion, General Dempsey? General Dempsey. Senator, it is. We talk a lot about keeping faith and oftentimes that's equated to how many dollars we're putting in a soldier's, sailor's, airman's, or marine's pocket. But it's a lot more than that. Keeping faith is making sure they're the best trained, best equipped force on the planet. To do that, we have to balance the budget against all of the various levers we have to pull. Senator Reed. Thank you, gentlemen. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Reed. Senator Wicker. Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank both of our witnesses for their service. Secretary Panetta, I want to ask you about the David Ignatius article from February 2. Let me just read the way it begins: ``Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has a lot on his mind these days, from cutting the defense budget to managing the drawdown of U.S. forces in Afghanistan. But his biggest worry is the growing possibility that Israel will attack Iran over the next few months. Panetta believes there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May, or June, before Iran enters what Israelis describe as a `zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb.'' Mr. Secretary, did Mr. Ignatius accurately characterize your view and would you like to comment on that? Secretary Panetta. No, I usually don't comment on columnists' ideas about what I'm thinking. Usually it's a dangerous game to get into. But let me just express my thoughts, that Iran is of great concern. We have common cause with Israel, we have common cause with the international community with regards to the concerns about Iran. We have made very clear that they are not to develop a nuclear weapon. We have made very clear that they are not to close the Straits of Hormuz. We've also made very clear that they are not to export terrorism and try to undermine other governments. Those are areas that concern us, and it concerns the international community. As a result of that, the international community has taken strong steps on sanctions, on economic and diplomatic areas to bring pressure on Iran and to isolate them. I guess my preference, my view, is that we ought to keep the international community together in applying that kind of pressure. Senator Wicker. Do you believe there's a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May, or June? Secretary Panetta. I think, as the President has suggested, we do not think that Israel has made that decision. Senator Wicker. Were you mischaracterized? Did you have a conversation with Mr. Ignatius? Secretary Panetta. As I said, the comments that are included in a column about what I'm thinking or what I'm possibly worried about is up to the columnist. Senator Wicker. But did he interview you? Secretary Panetta. We talked, but we talked about a lot of things, frankly. Senator Wicker. Okay. Were you trying to send some sort of signal to the international community, either to Iran or Israel? Secretary Panetta. No. Senator Wicker. So you do not have a position as to whether it is likely that Israel will make such an attack this spring? Secretary Panetta. I do not. Senator Wicker. All right. Thank you for clearing that up. I will say that there were no quotation marks in that column, but it did sound a whole lot like a quote. As I understand it in the budget, in compliance with the BCA, Mr. Secretary, there's half a trillion dollars worth of cuts. If we had the sequestration, that would be another half a trillion. Now, what was your conversation with the administration, with OMB, within DOD, about submitting a budget that doesn't comply with the statute, because sequestration is the law of the land right now as I understand it? Did you consider submitting a budget that outlined the catastrophic results if sequestration does go into effect? Then what is your strategy to, as you say, detrigger, to work with this Congress to detrigger sequestration, which is the law of the land, you will acknowledge? Secretary Panetta. It is. Obviously, our approach was to deal with what the BCA had provided in terms of targeted savings in the defense budget. We frankly developed the strategy that we presented to based on really trying to lay out a strategy about where our force structure needed to be between now and 2020 and do it in a responsible way to protect our military force and to be able to respond to the threats that are out there. Sequestration has this, frankly, mindless formula that's already built into it, that basically cuts across the board. It's not as if we can take sequestration and make sense out of the damn thing. The fact is, it's going to happen the way it's supposed to happen, through this kind of mindless formula that's there. So our approach, frankly, was to not pay any attention to it. If it's going to take place in January 2013--and I hope that's not the case--then it will take place under its mindless procedure. But I don't think we ought to try to bring some kind of common sense to what is a crazy process. Senator Wicker. Let me underscore what Senator Lieberman said, that this budget makes us worry about risks. I understand what General Dempsey said, that he believes that there are risks, but they're not unacceptable. But the sequestration would prove unacceptable, and I hope there's a strategy to get that through. Thank you, Mr. Secretary, for mentioning the industrial base. We're at 8.3 percent unemployment right now. Undoubtedly the President is going to send a spending bill to Congress which he believes and the administration believes will create more jobs. It makes no sense to me, at a time when there's an effort to create more jobs with other spending, to cut defense spending, which gives us the twofer of protecting the country and protecting the industrial base, which is a whole lot of Americans out there working to provide us with the infrastructure we need. It is a fact, is it not, that this budget will have an adverse effect on our industrial base? Is that not right, Mr. Secretary? Secretary Panetta. We've taken a lot of steps to try to protect against that happening, because as I've said, we absolutely have to protect our industrial base and those industries that support the defense budget. We can't afford to lose any more. So for that reason, we've designed an approach that will keep them in business with regards to the systems that we're trying to develop for the future. Senator Wicker. Albeit with fewer industrial manufacturing jobs. Secretary Panetta. I understand that, and that does have some impact. Senator Wicker. Thank you very much. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Wicker. I've asked Senator Akaka if he would yield 1 minute of his time to me and he's graciously said he would, because I want to clarify this issue of the budget and sequestration. As I read the budget which was submitted to us, there is additional $3 trillion in deficit reduction above the trillion that has already been taken, which would, if this budget were adopted as submitted, avoid sequestration totally. Now, half of the additional $3 trillion is in revenue increases, including, as the President's budget says, tax reform, including the expiration of tax cuts for single taxpayers making over $200,000, married couples making over $250,000, by adoption of the Buffett rule. Then the budget document says that the President is offering a detailed set of specific tax loophole closures and measures to broaden the tax base that, together with the expiration of the high income tax cuts, would be more than sufficient to hit the $1.5 trillion target, which means if this budget were adopted and the revenue were included--and the revenue represents about half of the additional deficit reduction--you avoid sequestration. Is that your understanding? Secretary Panetta. Yes, my understanding is that in the President's budget there is a plan, obviously, to provide for the kind of additional deficit reduction that the country needs. But obviously, if it were adopted it would de-trigger sequestration. Chairman Levin. Okay, because that's not been stated here this morning, but I think it's very, very important. I tried to say it in my opening statement, but I don't know that I said it clearly enough. The budget that was submitted to us says it very clearly. That's the strategy. Whether Congress adopts it or not is a different issue, but sequestration can be avoided and hopefully will be, and the President has submitted his way to avoid it in his budget document. Senator Wicker. Mr. Chairman, I thank you for clarifying that, and I do look forward to the President's budget being brought to the Senate floor for an up or down vote. Chairman Levin. Thank you. I think the Republican alternative will also be brought to the Senate floor, if there is one. We look forward to seeing an alternative budget as well. So much for that. Back to Senator Akaka. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. Aloha to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, and thank you so much for your leadership and all you do for our country. Mr. Secretary, my aloha to Sylvia, too. I notice that the PGA Tour was just at Pebble Beach. Had you chosen a different path than you're on now, you could have been at home in Carmel playing in the Pro-Am with your friends. But no, your dedication to continue serving our country puts you before us today. That says a lot, a lot about you and who you are. I've known you, as we know, since we served together in the House. In all seriousness, I really appreciate your dedication and your hard work, Mr. Secretary. I add my appreciation to the brave men and women of the Armed Forces who lead and their families for their service and sacrifice. Secretary Panetta, it is impossible to overstate the importance of our military engagement in the Asia-Pacific region. It's obvious that there are many challenges in this area, given the new focus on this vital region. If you look at continuing developments in the Pacific, our conventional adversaries are advancing and it is critical we maintain our superiority in the region. Given the many demands on the defense budget, as you mentioned, and the unique mission and environment we have in the region, my question to you is, how does DOD's fiscal year 2013 budget impact our military readiness in the Pacific region? Secretary Panetta. That's obviously a primary concern for us, because we do believe that it is important to maintain a strong presence in the Pacific. For that reason, we maintain the 11 carriers in the Navy in order to ensure that we have sufficient forward presence. There's nothing like a carrier to be able to allow for quick deployment in that area, and that will give us a great capacity to be able to show our force structure in the Pacific. In addition to that, we're going to maintain, obviously, a military presence. We already have one in Korea, but we're going to maintain an additional rotational presence with our Marines throughout that area. We've just developed an agreement with Australia to do a rotational presence there. We're working with the Philippines on hopefully a similar arrangement there as well. In addition to that, obviously, we have our air bases and the forward deployed air assets that will give us the capability to cover that area as well. So we feel very good about the force structure that we have in this budget and our ability to maintain a real presence in the Pacific. Senator Akaka. Thank you. General Dempsey, the United States has been attempting to engage China with military-to-military exercises and other cooperative opportunities, including humanitarian and disaster relief operations, and you've done well. General, how do you foresee these efforts at engagement proceeding as the U.S. focuses resources in the Pacific? General Dempsey. I think the strategy is actually quite sound. By the way, it's important to note we never left the Pacific, so the idea of rebalancing ourselves globally is just that, it's rebalancing. It's not a light switch on or off or a pivot. That word got ahead of me a bit. We're rebalancing our strategy and we're doing that based on the trends, demographic trends, economic trends, and military trends. In so doing, we do have the opportunity to increase our engagement with the People's Republic of China, because there are many things with which we have a common interest. They've been working with us in the Gulf of Aden on counter-piracy for some time. We've had military-to-military engagement. It hasn't been as consistent as we'd like it. We have a chance, I think, now in the coming months to reemphasize it. I think that will assist us in implementing our strategy. So this is an opportunity for us, Senator, and we intend to take it. Senator Akaka. Thank you. Mr. Secretary, I am a true believer in our Special Forces. Having visited the SEALs conducting training operations, I have seen firsthand the talent and dedication of our Special Forces personnel. Special Forces units are likely to do more in the future. I want to make sure that as an end result, as end strength numbers are reduced, that the career fields--they could be fields in communications and logistics as well--which support and help the Special Forces complete their missions are not reduced to a point which could limit the overall readiness of Special Forces units. General, can you share any thoughts also on this? General Dempsey. I can, sir. To your point, one of the lessons of the last 10 years or certainly among the lessons of the last 10 years is that the SOF have demonstrated their versatility and their capabilities, not just in the counterterror realm, but also in the building partner capacity, security force assistance. One of the things we've been talking about with the Service Chiefs is finding a new paradigm where we will partner differently with SOF to give us greater capability, synergy. The sum is greater than the individual parts. We're working on that. The Army, for example, is working on habitual relationships of the enablers you're talking about--lift, medical, communications. So I can assure you there will be no degradation to our Special Operations community. But I also want to assure you we cannot put all of our eggs in that basket because, as I've said in previous testimony, SOF are just that, they're special. If we go too far in that direction, then the conventional force becomes the special and the SOF no longer have that capability. So we just have to find the right balance, and we're working on it. Secretary Panetta. Senator, there's no question that Special Forces--through their agility and their ability to deploy quickly, represent a very important force for the future. They've been very effective, as we know, in terms of terrorism. But as the General has pointed out, they've also been very effective at developing partnerships with other countries, working with them, doing exercises, providing advice. They have a great capability there. So I think the kind of force we're looking at, obviously, as the General has pointed out, is to maintain a strong Army that can confront a land enemy and be able to defeat that enemy in a land war, but at the same time develop the kind of rotational capability, using Special Forces, using the Marines, using elements of the Army as well, to be able to have a presence elsewhere in the world. That would give us the best of all things. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator. Secretary Panetta. By the way, Senator, I should point out that we are increasing our Special Operations. I think the numbers, we're going to increase them by 3,000. We're putting about $10.4 billion more along those lines. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Akaka. Senator Brown. Senator Brown. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, since you brought up the budget, certainly I'm looking forward to voting again on the President's budget. It's been over 1,000 days since the Senate's put out a budget. I and the American people would like that to be different and have that come up at some point. That being said, I have, with 7 minutes, a lot of other questions. I'm going to submit some for the record. Mr. Secretary, one of them I will be discussing is the Global Hawk Block 30 program. I'm going to be asking about the cost comparisons between the U-2 and the Global Hawk, have they been reviewed, particularly as it relates to sustainment? Can the U- 2 alone provide the ISR necessary in order to meet the operational requirements? That will be one of them. In addition, I live in an innovative State, Massachusetts, and we have an innovative base, Hanscom, in dealing with the cybersecurity threat. I agree with the chairman--before we talk about any BRAC closures, I would hope that we would continue to work on the cybersecurity emphasis on areas and bases like Hanscom, because I think that is the next real area where we need to focus on, as referenced in your earlier testimony. Taking it a step further, the Air Force has proposed restructuring its civilian workforce to the tune of about 16,000 civilian contracted employees. I would ask that you keep in mind these restructuring efforts as it affects the small businesses, as Senator Wicker and others have referenced and you referenced in your comments. It affects, obviously, Hanscom, Westover, and other bases throughout the country. I know Senator Ayotte and I are deeply concerned about that. One of the observations I made as I served in Afghanistan this summer was, obviously, the drawdown. I have felt that we, if we do it thoughtfully and methodically, can transfer authority and control over to the Afghans, but if we do it too quickly, we're going to be in deep trouble and we'll lose all those benefits that we had. One of the things that I referenced and acknowledged through speaking and meeting with all the generals and with General Allen, is the fact that we have so many audits going on right now, without referencing any particular directorate, one general had 75 audits going on at once. So I said to him: ``How can you actually expect to do the drawdown, as General Allen's doing, and then continue to do your mission, keep our soldiers safe and secure, and then complete the audits?'' He says: ``We can't; something has to give.'' So, General Dempsey and Mr. Secretary, I would ask you to seriously look at that. If we're going to be doing this drawdown, we absolutely need to address these audit issues, there's so much duplication right now, and it's just, I think, some agencies justifying their existence. So I'm hoping you can comment on that issue. General Dempsey. I won't comment on them justifying their own existence, because they'll audit me if I do that and I don't want to go there. [Laughter.] Senator Brown. I hear you. General Dempsey. But I share your concern, sir. I've been on the receiving end of it, and there is clearly a need to be auditable because the Nation is investing incredible resources. But it has gotten a bit out of control, and my J-8 and the Under Secretary for Policy are both working to squeeze those audits to make sure they're not redundant, because some of them are redundant. They're absolutely duplicates. If you read them, which I have, you'll see they're the same exact thing. There has to be a central location or a central effort to do that, because the troops can't do their jobs and work 24/7 on audits and then go expect to perform the mission, which is obviously very serious. That being said, in Iraq, with obviously us being out of there, is it accurate that we now have over 100,000 civilian contractors there doing the job that ultimately our soldiers did? In fact, if that is so, is the cost two to three times more than what we were paying our soldiers? If that is the case, where is that money coming from? Secretary Panetta. Go ahead. General Dempsey. Thanks, sir. [Laughter.] I don't have the exact numbers. At one time towards the end of the calendar year, I was tracking those numbers on a daily basis. Senator Brown. It's substantial. General Dempsey. Oh, it is substantial, sir. Senator Brown. We're paying two to three times more, and we're paying two to three times more than we were paying the average soldier. General Dempsey. In some functions we are paying more. Security force or security details are more expensive, but other places, logistics, transportation, we're not paying as much as you would normally pay a soldier. But we have that information, if you place that question in the record. Senator Brown. Yes, I'd like to do that and get that for the record, because I'd like to know where that money is coming from and how that's being worked into the budget. [The information referred to follows:] The 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review acknowledged that contractors are part of the total force, providing an adaptable mix of unique skill sets, local knowledge, and flexibility that a strictly military force cannot cultivate or resource for all scenarios, permitting our nation to concentrate military resources on those areas which are inherently governmental. Contractors provide a broad range of supplies, services, and critical logistics support in many capability areas, while reducing military footprint and increasing the availability and readiness of resources. Currently, there are 10,967 contractors on the Department of Defense (DOD) contracts in Iraq. Of that, private security contractors make up 2,991, 84 percent of which are third country nationals (TCN) that earn, on average, lower salaries than U.S. servicemen. The average TCN security contractor earns $17,751 per guard, per year. In comparison, pay and benefits (annual composite rate) for an E-5 is $76,381. DOD funds to support these contracts are requested in the Overseas Contingency Operations budget. Senator Brown. In terms of the reverse, General Dempsey, in terms of the understanding of the term ``reversibility,'' it's a general concept designed to ensure the total force stays prepared for unexpected contingencies as the Active component inevitably gets stronger. How does the Guard and Reserve work in? I know you referenced it briefly, but I would think, obviously being in the Guard, that you would get more valuable dollars, more bang-for-the-buck, so to speak? Is there an effort, a real sincere effort, to push a lot of the training responsibilities, mobilization, et cetera, to the Guard and Reserves? General Dempsey. This effort, the new strategy and the budget to support it, has caused each Service to relook at how they balance across components--Active, Guard, and Reserve. I'll give you an example why that's an important conversation. Senator McCain in his opening comment cited that we were reducing 20 percent of the BCTs in the Army. That's true for the Active component brigades, but if you look at the totality of BCTs, which after this change will be 68, then the 8 is really an 11 percent degradation or decline in BCTs. So your point is an important one. We have to look at what this total force and the joint force provide, not strictly what we're doing to any one of them, and we are doing that. Senator Brown. I would ask you to pay particular attention to the Air Guard and take a look at moving some missions into the Guard portfolio, because you do get a better bang-for-the- buck, I would argue. The other big elephant in the room, aside from sequestration, is the fact that we have approximately 1 million servicemembers expected to join the veterans ranks in the next 5 years, and unemployment among young veterans is very high, and it's high also in the Guard and Reserves. Is there a 5-year plan to meet the expected demand, and how are we working with the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) to address these important issues? Secretary Panetta. Senator, you've raised a very important point, because as we go through these additional drawdowns we absolutely have to make sure that a support system is out there as our men and women come back from service. We are working with the VA in a number of areas, number one to try to provide a jobs pool so that these veterans will have the opportunity to get jobs in the private sector. Second, we're working with the VA to try to improve the seamless approach, so that when it comes to health care and benefits, that people can move without long delays, without a lot of bureaucracy, from coverage under the defense budget to coverage under the veterans budget. In addition to that, we're providing a lot of counseling and support systems by all of the Services to make sure that these families are supported once they come out so that they can readjust. If they want to go into education, the education benefits are provided. If they want to get a job, jobs are provided. If they want to go into small business, we provide the small business loans to assist them. So there is a pretty solid package. We have to continue to work at it and make sure that it's working and that it's meeting the need. But we are very concerned that we have that support system for these troops when they get out. Senator Brown. I'd be eager to offer my assistance on those very real issues. It's something that we've been working on in Massachusetts for a very, very long time and have some real knowledge about that issue. Mr. Chairman, I'm presuming we'll have an opportunity to add questions for the record and there will be a time allotted to do so, the response? Chairman Levin. Yes, there will be questions that are asked for the record, and we'll ask our witnesses to promptly respond. Senator Brown. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Brown. Right after Senator Nelson's turn, we're going to take a 5- minute break. Senator Nelson. Senator Nelson. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, gentlemen, for your service. Currently, progress is being made toward the new U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM) headquarters at Offutt in Nebraska, a new command and control complex for STRATCOM. Now, the entire project has been authorized, but because of the nature of this project DOD will have to request phased-in or incremental funding as we move along over a multi-year construction project. Much has been said about cyber today. Mr. Secretary and General Dempsey, could you explain the basis for, the need for a new headquarters dealing with almost every aspect of our military, defense and offense? Mr. Secretary? Secretary Panetta. Senator, we think it's extremely important because STRATCOM is obviously extremely important to defending the Homeland. In order to defend the Homeland, you have to develop the capabilities that we're facing right now, and cyber obviously is one of those areas. Our ability to develop the latest technology, the latest abilities in order to not only defend ourselves, but understand what that threat is about, is extremely important. We have to be able to develop the kind of communications systems that are the state-of-the- art, so that they can deal with quick communications. In that area, any time we face a threat there is an immediate response that has to take place and has to take place quickly and effectively. Frankly, we need good systems in order to make sure that happens. So for all those reasons, it's important to our future that we develop that kind of capability there. Senator Nelson. It's safe to say that what the internal components are within the structure would be equally important as the structure itself. In other words, it's going to be a high tech complex to be able to deal with the modern challenges we have. General Dempsey? General Dempsey. Without talking about the structure itself, I will tell you that the Service Chiefs, combatant commanders, and I have begun a series of strategic seminars to look at ways to better integrate, to learn lessons, and to ensure that we can deliver our strategy with the force that this budget will provide. We know we can. We're looking at now how do we mitigate change. One of the emerging insights I'll share with you is that any regional conflict in the future--and we're looking out in this budget to 2017. So in 2017, any regional conflict will impact in the continental United States, in the Homeland, without a doubt. That is to say, the Homeland is no longer a sanctuary in 2017. Therefore, commands like U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM) and STRATCOM become more important in that environment. Senator Nelson. Thank you. I have a lot of concerns about our presence in Iraq. We've had questions raised about the number of contract employees there, contractors. I also understand that DOS is now in a lead role trying to decide what the mission is in Iraq. We have the largest embassy in the world and it's growing, physically growing, but we don't have an established mission. I know that part of this will be DOS, but I assume that DOD also has a vital role in establishing that mission. Secretary Panetta, might you fill us in on what progress is being made to establish a mission? It seems like we have the cart before the horse here, but perhaps you can help us. Secretary Panetta. Frankly, I think DOD has a pretty good plan there that we're implementing. We have about eight sites that we're located in. We're working with foreign military sales (FMS) that are being provided to the Iraqis. We're providing training. We're providing support. It's both DOD and contract individuals that are working in those sites. It's pretty limited, but it's very helpful to the Iraqis in terms of their ability to develop security for the future. In addition, we're open to continuing to discuss with them additional opportunities, particularly with regards to other operations, going after al Qaeda, et cetera, that we think are important to continue as well. So I think we feel pretty good about the mission that we're performing right now there. General Dempsey. Yes, absolutely, sir. We've built the Office of Security Cooperation-Iraq based on the capabilities that the Iraqi Government wanted us to support them, how they wanted to be supported, notably with the program of record for FMS and then institution-building. We have our resources mapped to those functions, and I'm very confident that we have the Office of Security Cooperation sized about right for now. If they were to choose to expand our relationship in any way, we could do so. Senator Nelson. There seems to be room within that structure to expand, because of the size of the structure. I don't mean to minimize the necessity of having the presence in Iraq, but it seems like the structure is going to be more than adequate to take care of our needs. When I emphasize ``more than adequate,'' it's consistent with the DOD Inspector General's criticisms or observations about the size of the structure and continuing to expand without a stated mission. I hope we can get where we feel like we can state what that mission ultimately is. I'd like to turn to Iran for just a minute. It seems like every time we check any of the news today Iran is involved in it--questions about Iran engaging in terrorist activities in two locations around the world in the last day or so, the plot to take out the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, Mr. Al- Jubeir. You said, Secretary Panetta, on 60 Minutes, it's a red line for us and it's a red line obviously for the Israelis if they have the ability to deliver a nuclear weapon with a missile. What are your opinions about that, if you might be able to enlighten us a bit more? Secretary Panetta. As I said, we have a number of concerns here that we worry about with regards to Iran. Those are concerns that we share not just with the Israelis but with the entire international community. As the President himself has stated, we will not tolerate an Iran that develops a nuclear weapon, and yet they continue, obviously, to try to improve their nuclear enrichment capabilities. That's something that concerns us a great deal. They continue to threaten the possibility of closing the Straits of Hormuz, and we have made very clear that that is a red line for us, that that Strait is extremely important to free commerce and to shipping and to the shipping lanes, and would have a huge economic impact if that were to happen. That too is unacceptable and not tolerable for the United States. We're concerned about Iran and the spread of terrorism, the fact that they seek to undermine legitimate governments around the world. That too concerns us. We think that the approach of the international community to apply sanctions, to apply diplomatic pressure, is having an impact. It has isolated Iran. It's made very clear to them that they have to change their behavior. I think that we need to keep that pressure on. That's an important effort. I think the international community is unified in that effort, and I guess my hope would be that we could all stick together in ensuring that we continue to isolate Iran and make very clear to them that they should choose to join the international community, the rules and the laws and the regulations of the international community, and become part of that family. If they choose otherwise, then-- that would have serious implications. Senator Nelson. Our concern is more than just about their nuclear capacity, although that is a very important part. But are the actions that they're taking beyond being pesky, in terms of what they are intending to do? Secretary Panetta. It's far beyond being pesky. It's deliberately supplying equipment and arms to others to engage in terrorist activity, and that too concerns us very much. Senator Nelson. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Nelson. We'll take a short break. [Recess from 11:46 a.m. to 11:56 a.m.] Chairman Levin. We'll come back to order. Senator Portman has yielded to Senator Graham, and then we'll put Senator Portman back in his order when he returns. Senator Graham. Senator Graham. If we could earmark, I would help Ohio. So I just want to let Rob know I appreciate this very much. [Laughter.] I have to run. Secretary Panetta, do you believe it's a viable strategy for the United States to try to contain a nuclear-armed Iran? Secretary Panetta. Yes, indeed. Senator Graham. The idea of containment. Shouldn't we prevent them from getting a nuclear capability, not contain them? Secretary Panetta. It's not just contain, but it's obviously doing everything we can to prevent them from developing. Senator Graham. Right. I guess my question more correctly asked is, if they get a nuclear weapon, do you think the idea of containment is a way to go? Should we prevent them versus containing them? Secretary Panetta. No, I think we have to prevent them. Senator Graham. Because if they got a nuclear weapon the damage is done. Other nations follow suit. Terrorists are more likely to get the material. So the Secretary of Defense's view is that the idea of containing a nuclear-armed Iran is not the way to go; the idea is to prevent them from doing it. Hopefully, we can do it through sanctions and diplomatic engagement. I hope we can. Okay, China. General Dempsey, there are a lot of media reports that the Chinese routinely, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), engages in cyber attacks of our business and national security infrastructure. Do you believe that is a reality of the 21st century? General Dempsey. I believe someone in China is hacking into our systems and stealing technology and intellectual property, which at this point is a crime. I can't attribute it directly to the PLA. Senator Graham. Let's say if we could find that the PLA was involved in hacking into our defense infrastructure, would you consider that a hostile act by the Chinese? General Dempsey. I would consider it to be a crime. I think there are other measures that could be taken in cyber that would rise to the level of a hostile act. Senator Graham. What would they be? General Dempsey. Attacking our critical infrastructure. Senator Graham. That could be a hostile act? General Dempsey. I think so. Senator Graham. Allowing us to respond in kind? General Dempsey. In my view that's right, yes, sir. Senator Graham. So I'm going to have lunch with the Vice President of China in about 20 minutes. So what do you want me to tell him? [Laughter.] General Dempsey. Happy Valentine's Day. [Laughter.] Senator Graham. All right, okay. I'll do that. Chairman Levin. By the way, Senator Graham, in my opening statement I made it very clear that the cyber espionage going on from China has to stop and it's mighty serious stuff. So you can pass along, if you would, that comment as well. Senator Graham. All right. Would you consider it a hostile act? Chairman Levin. I sure would. Senator Graham. Okay, I would, too. Chairman Levin. But Happy Valentine's Day. [Laughter.] Senator Graham. It ought to be an interesting lunch. [Laughter.] Secretary Panetta, in 2014 the game plan is to transition to Afghan security force control; they're in the lead, is that correct? Secretary Panetta. That's correct. Senator Graham. We'll have a training mission, we'll be providing intelligence gathering, providing capabilities they are not quite yet capable of doing, like airlift; is that correct? Secretary Panetta. That's correct. Senator Graham. Do you support the concept of a follow-on force past 2014 that's part of a strategic partnership agreement, that would have a military footprint post-2014 that would allow American air power to remain in Afghanistan along with special forces units, at the Afghans' request? Do you think that is in our national security interest to consider such a follow-on force? Secretary Panetta. I believe, as the President has stated, that we have to have an enduring presence in Afghanistan. We need to, obviously, discuss what those missions are, but I think clearly counterterrorism operations is one of those missions. Training and advising is one of those missions. Providing the right enablers is one of those missions. Obviously providing air support is one of those missions as well. Senator Graham. So you would agree with the concept that post-2014 if we had a configuration of American forces with adequate air power to assist the Afghan security forces, plus a Special Forces component, the Taliban days are over in terms of military conquest? Secretary Panetta. That ought to be the goal. Senator Graham. I think that ought to be the goal and I think you could do this with 15,000 or 20,000 troops, with several air bases spread throughout the country. To a war-weary public: We have air bases everywhere. If we leave Afghanistan and the issue is in doubt about the future of the Taliban, we will regret it. If we leave Afghanistan in a way to create a certainty about the Taliban's future, I think we can hold our heads up high. Do you think Iran is watching what we're doing in Afghanistan? Secretary Panetta. I would think without question. Senator Graham. General Dempsey, what is your biggest concern and your best hope about Iraq? General Dempsey. I'll start with the best hope, and that is that they appear to be committed to resolving the contentious issues among them politically, not through violence, with the exception of a few of the violent extremist organizations which remain there. My biggest concern is that they could potentially come to a decision that they no longer need our help. They might look elsewhere. That's why our Office of Security Cooperation there remains a very vital part of our strategy. Senator Graham. Do you see the security situation in Iraq getting worse or better? General Dempsey. I see it as being in a form of stasis right now. I think it is what it is for the foreseeable future, with of course the potential for it, based on some political decisions they might make, with increasing tension, for example in the Arab-Kurd region. Senator Graham. When it comes to the military budget, I don't see DOD as a job creator for America. That's one of the benefits, but I don't think we should view DOD as a way to just create jobs to deal with unemployment. I think we should have a robust defense capability to defend our values. So in that light, I do believe it's appropriate to reduce defense spending, and I do believe it's appropriate to consider another round of BRAC, as hard as that is for my colleagues. So just count me in in the process of having to make hard decisions, even in the defense area. When it comes to TRICARE premiums, is it sustainable--is the mandatory spending part of the budget sustainable without reform? Secretary Panetta. No. Senator Graham. So the question for the country is, if I don't get courtmartialed in the next couple of years and get to be a retired colonel and receive my TRICARE benefits when I'm 60, it is okay to ask a guy like me to pay more. They haven't been adjusted since the 1990s, is that correct? Secretary Panetta. That's correct. Senator Graham. General Dempsey, you're willing to pay more? General Dempsey. I am, sir. Senator Graham. I guess the point is that we're so far in debt, no one group is off the table. It's hard to ask those who've done the most to secure our freedom to give more, but I'm willing to do it. To the retired community, I'm willing to grandfather the current system, but I'm also willing to look outside the box, because if we don't do something in terms of health care growth and entitlement, retiree benefits, you're going to compete the retired force with operational needs, and that's just not where we want to go. So thank you both. I don't know if $487 billion is the right number, but I'll work with you to get a number that is robust. One last question. Do you see a scenario in the next decade where 100,000 American troops could be involved over a sustained period of time? If you do, how would reducing the Army and the Marine Corps by 125,000 affect those operations? General Dempsey. First of all, I don't know the answer to that, sir. But I think we wouldn't want to shape a future where we completely ignored the possibility. The force we're building on the fiscal year 2013 to 2017 budget is capable, we assess, of stability operations, long- term stability operations or prolonged conflict, up to a force of about 50,000. The other 50,000 would have to come out of the Guard and Reserve. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Graham. You have my proxy at lunch, by the way. [Laughter.] Senator Webb. Senator Webb. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, General, first let me just say that as somebody who spent 5 years in the Pentagon, one of them as a serving Marine and the other as a defense executive, I appreciate all of the work that's gone into this presentation. We're going to have our disagreements, but, having sat on the Defense Resources Board for 4 years, I know how much effort has gone into what you brought over here. There are already reports--I was back in my office--on the discussion to slash the Army and the Marine Corps. I think for the record we ought to point out that what we're looking at here is historically consistent with the end point of sustained ground operations. In fact, if my numbers are correct, if you go back to the pre-September 11 military and look at 2017, which you're projecting in your testimony, Secretary Panetta, the Army is going to be about 9,000 higher than it was pre- September 11 and the Marine Corps is going to be again about 9,000 higher than pre-September 11. So I look forward to working with you on a lot of different issues, and some on which we may have disagreement. But again, I have great respect for all of the energy that's gone into this, preparation of this budget. I want to talk about basing in the Pacific. Chairman Levin mentioned this in his opening comments. Chairman Levin, Senator McCain and I have spent a great deal of effort on this. I agree, General Dempsey, with what you said. I don't see a pivot here. I think we've always been there, we've always needed to be there. I've been speaking for many years about the need for us to reconfigure our presence in a way not that downsizes or not that confronts or attempts to contain China, as some people are saying, but just as a way to strengthen our alliances and our presence out there. There's a strong strategic dynamic in the region. There's also a very important and potentially volatile political dynamic in Japan if we don't get this right and if we don't get it right soon. This has been going on for more than 15 years. We can't kick the can down the road--I'm not asking for your comment on this, but this is more along the lines of getting your bank statement. There are a couple things that are due to us and they're very important in our consideration. One is the reporting requirement that is scheduled to come out of the independent study that was mandated by the NDAA. There's a 90- day period for which the bill was signed, which I think was December 31, for the study to come to the Secretary of Defense and then the Secretary of Defense would have up to 90 days, not necessarily mandated, to report to us on this independent evaluation of the basing structure. It's very important. It's going to happen at the same time that there are environmental statements and other issues taking place on Okinawa about the basing system there. I'm very interested in getting this study and seeing if we can't move forward in a very timely way to resolve this. The other one is the Marine Corps laydown. I have spoken with the Assistant Commandant about the numbers that they're using. I support this transition in concept. I've had many conversations with the Marine Corps and with others about this earlier. But we do need to see it. We need to see the laydown. It's again a part of the NDAA. The question that I actually have in this short period of time relates to the evolving situation in Syria. General, I would like to ask if you might characterize for us, for lack of a better term, the on-the-ground opposition that now exists to the Syrian regime? What proportion of this is domestic? What proportion is foreign? What are your observations? General Dempsey. My observations, Senator, are that it is a much different situation than we collectively saw in Libya. I think that's an important point to make, because we don't have as clear an understanding of the nature of the opposition. We're working in the intelligence community to develop it. But there are some significant differences vis-a-vis Syria. There is a chemical and biological warfare threat. There's a very significant integrated air defense system, a very credible military. We're watching the trend lines on their military to see if they are still under the control of the regime. There's also huge regional implications, big players and actors who have vested interests there. So this is one where we have to not only understand what's happening on the ground, but also look at the regional context in which we're dealing. Of course, we will, when asked, provide options to the national command authority. But this is a very different challenge. Senator Webb. First let me reiterate that I had serious concerns about the Libyan operation and the nature in which the President exercised unilateral authority. But on the Syrian situation, do you have any indication about the makeup of the on-ground opposition to the regime, how much of it is domestic and how much of it is in fact not? General Dempsey. As I sit here today, the Free Syrian Army, which is generally speaking the centerpiece of the opposition, is for the most part domestic, although we also know that other regional actors are providing support for it. That complicates the situation. Senator Webb. There were reports over the weekend that al Qaeda has been involved as a part of the opposition. Do you have any confirmation of that? General Dempsey. No confirmation. I saw the same report. Senator Webb. But have you discounted it? General Dempsey. No, not at all. Syria is an issue of a Sunni majority rebelling against an oppressive Alawite Shia regime. All of the players--this is what I mentioned a moment ago--in the region it seems have a stake in this. So those who would like to foment a Sunni-Shia standoff--and you know who they are--are all weighing in in Syria. It is the last remaining piece in the puzzle of what you and I probably months ago would have described as the Arab Spring, but this is a very important moment in the region and all the players are weighing in. Senator Webb. Thank you, General. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Webb. Senator Portman. Senator Portman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary and General Dempsey, thank you for being here this morning. I told Secretary Panetta that I was going back and forth between the Senate Budget Committee and this committee. It's been interesting because I'm really seeing two different points of view and really world views. I commend both of you today and your comments about the need for us to deal with the unsustainable growth on the entitlement or mandatory side of the spending. In response to your question from Senator Graham, is the mandatory spending for the military sustainable, you gave a simple answer, no. I will tell you, to be honest, having just engaged in the Senate Budget Committee about the President's budget, which was submitted yesterday, it not only adds another $12 trillion to our debt, taking it up to over $25 trillion, but it really takes the pass on any of the tough decisions that have to be made on the biggest part of the budget and the fastest growing part of the budget, and that's the entitlements side. It actually grows, under their own numbers, from about 64 percent of our total budget now--this would be Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, interest on the debt. That grows from 64 percent now, so the largest part of our budget, to 78 percent during the 10-year window of the President's budget and yet there is no mention of Social Security, no reforms. On Medicare, the only reform I can see on the beneficiary side happens after the next term of whoever's President, and that's on some slight means testing changes. So my concern is exactly what you have outlined today, and I quote you from your overview document, where you said: ``Our growing national debt, if not addressed, will imperil our prosperity, hurt our credibility and influence around the world, and ultimately put our national security at risk.'' General Dempsey, you talked about that during your nomination hearing last year, and I again appreciate the approach you have taken. I'm very concerned that if we continue down the path that has been outlined we will all be here many more hearings like this one, talking not about how to improve our national security, but instead talking about how budgets have been crowded out by unsustainable practices elsewhere in our government and we simply can't afford the force we know we need. So, with that, if I could focus on two things in terms of the defense budget, because I do think there is room, despite my concern about the bigger budget crowding out defense, within defense to find savings. Two areas I want to touch on quickly if I could are personnel and the area of procurement. On the personnel side, I appreciate the fact that you both again have focused on compensation, health care benefits. You've proposed a retirement review. These are all tough issues. I think we all agree that our men and women in uniform are our single greatest asset and we need to be very cautious on the personnel side. On the other hand, we need to be sure that we are not crowding out, even within the defense budget, the need for us to be sure that we have adequate resources for operations and maintenance. So I would ask you this. When you look at what you have proposed, in essence you've taken out one issue to a commission on the retirement issue, again a very delicate issue, and you have some suggestions on changing compensation in the military health system here, although I would suggest more would have to be done to meet your own criteria you've laid out. My question to you is, is there a more holistic approach here, in that this does relate to retention and obviously our ability to attract the great professional force that we have now? General Dempsey. We thought about bundling these issues together into, as you described it, a holistic look at pay, compensation, health care, and retirement. The chiefs and I were of the opinion that we wanted to address the issue we saw before us that we knew had to be changed, and that was pay, compensation, and health care, but take the time to study the impact of retirement change, because one of the things we're concerned about is, although it's counterintuitive, you know that about 70 percent of the force retires--not retires, but separates before retirement, but 100 percent of the force, when asked, even at the 5-year mark of their career, will say to you: Don't screw around with my retirement or I may not stick around, even though they know that the chances of them actually retiring is only about 30 percent. So there's a psychological factor with retirement benefits here that we don't fully understand yet. We want to take some time to understand what the impact of retirement reform would be on both recruitment and retention. That's why we all felt, the chiefs and I, that we should separate these. Senator Portman. Secretary Panetta, any thoughts with regard to this, given your background on the budget issues? Secretary Panetta. I think it's important, as a former OMB Director that I was, that we have to approach this budget based on the fact that there's no holy ground here. You have to look at everything and you have to question everything. We approached it on that basis. We talked about allowances, we talked about pay, we talked about pay raises, we talked about all the health care areas. We looked at a number of those areas. We felt we have to take a step to make sure that compensation is part of the answer to what we have to achieve here in savings. For that reason, we selected the areas that we looked at. I think it's important that all of this has to relate to what it means to the soldier, the uniformed man or woman who is there on the battlefield. How do we make sure that we provide the benefits that are necessary to attract the very best? Frankly, we have the very best operating on behalf of the United States today. How do we do that, how do we maintain that benefit base that's important, but at the same time, understand that we have to control these costs in the out-years? That was the dilemma that we had to confront. We think we approached it in the right way. Is there more that can be done? Probably. Senator Portman. I know that members of the committee know this, but maybe for someone watching, this is an increasing part of your budget, just as it is for the Federal budget, as I mentioned, if you look at your percent of spending on TRICARE, for instance, as a percent of your overall budget. So as one member of the committee--and I think I speak for a lot of other colleagues, including at least one I heard speak earlier--we look forward to working with you on that and trying to be supportive. On procurement, we don't have time to go into it because my time is up. But just again, to focus on competition, the need for us maybe to spend a little more upfront to be sure we have a competitive process because it'll save so much over time. I look forward to maybe a follow-up question in writing in that regard. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, gentlemen. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Portman. Senator McCaskill. Senator McCaskill. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for your service to our country. As some of you know, I have spent a lot of time working on contracting issues as a member of this committee and other committees. I don't need to tell you what a huge piece of your budget contracting represents. The Project on Government Oversight released a report last year that is the first in-depth analysis that's been done in a while about the cost of personal services contracts as compared to the costs of a Federal employee. That study showed that we are paying contractors 1.83 times more than the government pays Federal employees, and that's including taking into account the benefits package that goes along with the personnel costs of hiring a Federal employee. I think there's been an awful lot of talk around the Senate about freezing Federal employees' salaries and cutting the number of Federal employees, but there's been very little real difficult work of trying to hold down the cost of personal services contracts. Secretary Panetta, with the reductions of DOD personnel contained in this budget, what are you doing to ensure that reducing--because what's happened over the years is, while we've tried to hold the line on Federal employees, contracting has just ballooned. You are by far number one in that. Number two is DHS. So I'd like you to address that if you could, either you or Mr. Hale. Secretary Panetta. Senator, you've provided tremendous leadership on this issue, and it is of great concern to me personally because it is an area that has expanded dramatically. Almost everywhere I go in my new capacity, I see contract employees obviously providing a lot of services. Some of them are very important and they perform a very important role. Some of them I question whether or not we could perform the same role and be able to do it at a smaller price. We did look at this area as part of our efficiency approach to trying to see if we could gain some savings, and I'd like to ask our Comptroller to speak to that. Mr. Hale. Just briefly, I think you know, Senator McCaskill, we had an initiative a couple of years ago to in- source jobs where it was cost-effective. We are still looking at where it's cost-effective. I think with these budget cutbacks we're looking at what the right mix is. Probably both contractors and civil servants are going to come down over the next few years in our budget. We have to try to find the right mix. I don't claim we have an easy formula, but I think we are looking at it in that context, which is the right one: What's the most cost-effective way that we can get the work done? Senator McCaskill. We're going to have a hearing on this in the Subcommittee on Contracting Oversight of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and what I will be looking forward to seeing is what kind of strict analysis is DOD embracing to get a handle on contract employees versus full-time Federal employees? Because it surprised me when I got here that not only do we not know how many contractors there were in Iraq, we didn't know how many contractors there were sitting in government buildings within 5 miles of where we're sitting right now. That is a huge problem, that the contractors just became task orders, as opposed to keeping a handle on how this monster got out of hand. We also are going to have some legislation coming from the Wartime Contracting Commission that finished its work. I will look forward to direct input from you about the legislation that we will be hopefully filing this week, and we will be working with this committee to try to get some of its provisions included in the defense authorization. As I look at Afghanistan, $16 billion GDP, $2 billion of that is not from us. That is a huge impact on that country. As some of you are aware, I've also been looking at the way that the Commanders' Emergency Response Program (CERP) funds have been used over there in terms of infrastructure and how for the first time in the budget there was actually an infrastructure fund embedded in the budget coming from the military to do the things that traditionally the DOS had always done. That is, large infrastructure. It was like CERP on steroids, is essentially what the infrastructure fund was. I'm going to quote what the Counterinsurgency Advisory and Assistance Team (CAAT) said. The CAAT, which provided a report directly to General Allen, found that the CERP was not achieving counterinsurgency goals. I'm going to quote this report: ``Current incentives promote spending CERP funds without sufficient accountability. There is no system for determining what projects are likely to advance counterinsurgency effects and no apparent desire to objectively evaluate whether counterinsurgency objectives were achieved. Commanders at various ends of the spectrum are judged by the amount of funds committed, obligated, or spent over actual measures of effectiveness. This situation is not only wasteful, but allows for corruption, insurgent resource capture, and delegitimization of the Afghan state. We retain primary responsibility for project success or failure while the host government and population are spectators.'' I know that CERP has been something that has been held near and dear, and now the Afghanistan Reconstruction Fund is an outgrowth of that because we've gotten beyond fixing window fronts to large highway construction projects, without the kind of rigorous analysis in terms of sustainability. As we drop off the cliff in Afghanistan in terms of what we're giving this country of GDP, aren't we creating a scenario that a lot of this money is going to go into the category that it went into in Iraq, and that is, a lot of wasted taxpayers' dollars on Afghanistan infrastructure? Secretary Panetta. Senator, I'll have a general comment on the actual use of those funds, but let me say this. I share the concern that you've indicated. As we do draw down and as we turn over these responsibilities to the Afghans, one of the issues that we have to think long and hard about is the sustainability of these efforts. For example, in the Afghan force that takes over and provides the principal security for the country, what is the level that we need? Is it sustainable? Can this country provide the support system that it has to? What kind of economic base is that country going to have for the future? The issues that you've raised all relate to that question. What are we looking at in terms of the future of this country and can it sustain itself? That's going to be something we're going to have to give a lot of consideration to. Not only the United States, but obviously all of our NATO allies have to take a hard look at what we do to try to sustain this country in the future if we're going to be successful there. General Dempsey. I'll just add, Senator, I first of all hope we don't drop off a cliff. One of the things we've been discussing is the glide slope in every sense. It's our glide slope, it's the ANSF glide slope. It's our funding glide slope. If we do drop it off a cliff, it will have the result you just predicted. That's the reason that I would suggest we can't fall off a cliff in Afghanistan. We have to transition this thing responsibly. As for whether they have the capacity to deal with all of this, that has been--I've done this in several countries around the world, to include Iraq most recently, and that is always the most difficult part of these missions, is building the capacity, the capability and then the capacity, to--it's really institution-building. It's pretty easy to build infantry battalions. It's pretty easy to partner with them and embed with them. But the institution that sits above it all has to be developed. I would suggest to you that we've made some pretty significant progress in that regard since about 2008, and it is part of our strategy going forward. But I share your concerns. I'm not sure that I share the understanding of all of the results of that study you just cited, because depending on when it was done and who did it and where they did it, it could have a very different outcome other places. I'd suggest to you that we owe you some information on that going forward. Senator McCaskill. I have to tell you, I think that some of the stuff that we've built in Afghanistan, we can go ahead and build the stuff, we can hire the people to build it, our know- how can provide the leadership to build it, and I think it's been like wishful thinking that the institutional capacity of this country will catch up. We have a power generation facility in Afghanistan that's sitting there as an expensive extra power generator because they can't even use it, and it was hundreds of millions of dollars of American taxpayers' money. That kind of stuff, we just can't afford to do that. I have a modernization to move some of this money back to the United States for infrastructure, and I think it's important that we do that because of the needs of this country, and the real problem that a lot of this money for security purposes is ending up in the bad guys' hands, and we know that. There's been way too many instances that we've found it. So I appreciate the more information you can give me about what kind of rigor you're bringing to the sustainability equation, because I can't find that rigor and I've looked for it. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator McCaskill. Senator Ayotte. Senator Ayotte. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Dempsey, Secretary Panetta, Mr. Hale, thank you for your leadership during very challenging times for DOD. I appreciate very much that we need to find savings in defense in a way that does not undermine our national security, no question. But please count me out when it comes to BRAC, and here's why. I want to echo concerns that Secretary Panetta himself, having gone through this process, raised before the House committee in October, where, Mr. Secretary, you said: ``I went through BRAC. I know that all the dollars that people looked for huge savings in BRAC, and yet they didn't take into consideration the cleanup, they didn't take into consideration all the work that had to be done. They didn't take into consideration all the needs that had to be addressed. In many cases it wound up costing more. In fact, the recent Government Accountability Office report found that it cost us for the 2005 BRAC round 67 percent more than we estimated, and in fact we're not going to see any savings from the 2005 round until 2018, 13 or 14 years down the line. So I have serious questions whether we save any money from a BRAC process. Particularly at a time when we're still making decisions about our global posture and our force, end strength of our forces, I don't think it's the right time for a BRAC process where we may not save a dime, frankly. That's what really concerns me at the end of the day.'' I want to ask you, Secretary Panetta, about our reengagement rate at Guantanamo. Director Clapper testified, I believe it was last year or in the spring, that our reengagement rate of those who had been released from Guantanamo Bay was 27 percent. Do you know what the number is now, and has that percentage of 27 percent getting back into the fight gone up? Secretary Panetta. I think 27 percent was over the long period stretching back into the last administration, where most of the individuals were transferred. I believe under the ones that have been transferred under this administration that it's less. I can't remember the exact percentage. Senator Ayotte. But overall it's been--whatever administration released it, Director Clapper said the overall reengagement rate is 27 percent; is that correct? Secretary Panetta. That's true, and I think that number is correct. I'll get back to you on the specifics. [The information referred to follows:] Data regarding the reengagement rate of former Guantanamo Bay detainees is collected and distributed by the Office of the Director for National Intelligence (ODNI). In March 2012, ODNI released updated public statistics on detainee reengagement for all detainees transferred from Guantanamo Bay through December 29, 2011: Out of the total 599 Guantanamo detainees transferred, 95 or 15.9 percent are confirmed to have reengaged in terrorist or insurgent activity, and an additional 72 or 12 percent are suspected of so reengaging. Senator Ayotte. That would be great. I just want to know if the overall reengagement rate, regardless of who released them, has increased at all. The reason I asked is, in follow-up to Senator McCain's question earlier about what we've heard could be the administration's potential release of five Guantanamo prisoners in exchange to the Taliban, I just wanted to raise concerns about it on a couple of fronts. Number one, as I see it, according to the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post, of these five people--let's be clear. If these reports, public reports, are accurate, we're talking about individuals who, senior-most Taliban commander in northern Afghanistan, someone who is an alleged war criminal in his role for the massacre of Shiite Afghans. Two of them are potentially involved in killing of a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operative, an American CIA operative. Of the remaining three, one is alleged to have helped smuggle weapons in to attack U.S. troops and is loyal to the Haqqani network, another one is directly associated with Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar and then the final one may belong to al Qaeda and his release has been called highly problematic. All five of these individuals were characterized by the administration in 2010, if these reports are accurate about who these individuals are, all five of them were deemed by this administration in 2010 ``too dangerous to transfer, but not feasible for prosecution.'' I know that you have to certify, Secretary Panetta. Two years later, is there something changed about these individuals that we're unaware of? My follow-up would be, as I understand the administration's plan, this is in exchange for goodwill from the Taliban. If we are going to release five, if these reports are the case, these public reports of who these individuals are, dangerous individuals who could get back and reengage with our troops, and who aren't just soldiers, they appear to be leaders among the Taliban and Haqqani networks, that if we were to release them in exchange for a measure of goodwill, it seems to me that, why aren't we getting a ceasefire if we're going to put out people that are so dangerous? So two questions to you: First, has something changed from 2010 of the assessment of these five individuals in terms of being too dangerous to release? Second, do you think this is a good deal if we're only going to get a goodwill gesture from the Taliban? Secretary Panetta. Let me reemphasize that absolutely no decisions have been made with regards to reconciliation. There have been some discussions, but the conditions for reconciliation have been made very clear, that the Taliban has to lay down their arms, they have to renounce al Qaeda, they have to recognize the constitution in Afghanistan. As far as I know, none of those conditions have been met at this point, and obviously would be part of the discussions. As to whether or not as part of whatever these discussions involve that there was a transfer as part of that, under my obligations as Secretary, I have to certify that these individuals will not return to the battlefield, and I have to be convinced that steps are taken to ensure that that does not happen. Until I am assured that that's the case, I'm not going to certify. Senator Ayotte. I appreciate that, Mr. Secretary. These are very dangerous individuals if they are as they've been reported by the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, and in particular to transfer them for a so-called goodwill gesture. I appreciate your list of conditions of a ceasefire, laying down of arms, and I obviously am very concerned to transfer these individuals at all, given how dangerous they have been in the past. Frankly, we haven't always been right about this. We've been 27 percent wrong, whatever administration we're in. In fact, Mullah Zakir was assessed as a medium risk--these guys are all high risk--a medium risk, and he was released, and he's now leading the Taliban forces fighting the U.S. Marines in the Helmand Province. So we do our best in these situations, but as a prior prosecutor the best predictor of future behavior is usually prior behavior, and these guys aren't good. So I appreciate your looking at this certification very carefully. Thank you all for being here today. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Ayotte. Senator Udall. Senator Udall. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, gentlemen. I'm sure you'd rather spend Valentine's Day with any group other than the Senate Armed Services Committee, so thanks for being here. It's apparent that the fiscal challenges that DOD faces are those that we face across the Federal budget. We've had a respite given, the end of the war in Iraq. But unfortunately, more broadly--and I'm not speaking to DOD, but I'm speaking more broadly--we've mismanaged our finances across the board, and we've put ourselves in a pretty tough, I would say even unacceptable, financial position. If you look at our history, we've leveraged our economic and military strength to accomplish our goals, and we can't effectively project our power abroad if we're weak at home. Then we've also undercut our domestic and strategic goals by managing our finances so poorly. You both know in spades that we have to carefully strike a balance between fiscal responsibility and strategic capability. We can't hollow out the force, we can't eat our seed corn. We have to get this right. Fortunately, I think we have a lot of history to guide us, and we have to make sure that we incorporate the lessons learned from our successes and both our failures. As a mountain climber, I always learned more when I was on the mountains I didn't climb as the ones I was successfully summitting. But, General, in that spirit I wanted to turn to the summary that I've heard that DOD has affirmed its commitment to Department-wide research and development programs and the continued development of alternative energy technologies. DOD's always been an innovator and military research has created a number of products that we now consider essential to everyday civilian life. At the same time, there are concerns that there are operational needs that need to be addressed now. Can you discuss the thinking behind this focus on the future and how that decision affects current operations and those that might be just over the horizon? General Dempsey. On the issue of energy, operational energy, I can. Senator Udall. Certainly on energy, but then even more broadly, too--medical advances. I know you have a long list. General Dempsey. We do, sir. In terms of looking out to Joint Force 2020, that's exactly why we want to project ourselves out and then look back and find our way forward. This budget is the first step in that. I will use operational energy as an example. We lose soldiers, marines, notably airmen and soldiers, on the roads of Afghanistan going from forward operating base (FOB) to FOB, on resupply missions and so forth. So to the extent we can create autonomous or semi-autonomous in terms of energy consumption, power and energy, organizations, net zero in terms of their consumption of power and energy, we'll actually save lives and become a lot more agile because we won't be as tied to some kind of traditional linear line of communications. So we're all in. The Army has five installations--one of them is Fort Carson, CO, by the way--where we're trying to receive a net zero energy situation. But that's kind of the garrison environment. Operationally, we're trying to do the same thing with our tactical units. Every Service, frankly, is working on this diligently and I think this budget reflects that. Senator Udall. There have been some compelling stories about what the marines are doing in theater, on the front lines at the FOBs. As your predecessor put it well, saving energy saves lives. So I commend you for what you're doing. I look forward to working with you in this important area as we move forward. Mr. Secretary, if I could turn to you. Congress, as I think you're aware, worked with DOD to establish an Operationally Responsive Space (ORS) Office within the Air Force to rapidly field small responsive satellites that are tactical in nature and tasked by the combat commanders in the field. That's in comparison to the large national systems that take somewhere 6 to 8 years and literally billions of dollars to field. As I understand it, in fiscal year 2013 DOD is proposing to abolish the ORS Office, zero its budget from $111 million last year, and integrate whatever capability is left into the Space and Missile System Center. Can you explain DOD's thinking here, when the first satellite they launched was judged by U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) to be successful? ORS-1 started sending images back to them in the fall of 2011, almost 3 years to the day after the program was started. One additional question. Is there a possibility that this decision puts the cart before the horse? I assume the budget was probably put together before CENTCOM started using the system. Can you explain the reasoning here? Secretary Panetta. Senator, let me have Bob Hale talk to that. Senator Udall. Great. Mr. Hale. Senator, what we've done, as you said, is terminate the program office, but not the commitment to ORS initiatives. It'll be put into Space Command, where it can be looked at in the broader context. We think that's the right decision, as opposed to focusing on one particular approach, but to look more broadly at this initiative. There are a lot of ways to do it. We need to find a cost effective way. So I think that's our approach. Senator Udall. I look forward to working with you to make sure we continue to get this right. We talked about smaller, agile forces on the front lines and this is in a way a form of doing that, but in space. Let me turn to Iraq and Afghanistan. We've ended our mission in Iraq. We're drawing down our surge forces in Afghanistan. We've proposed reducing end strength in all four Service branches, substantially reducing the number of aircraft, ships, and Army BCTs. After all that and more, when adjusted for inflation, the DOD budget for 2017 will still be at almost exactly the same level as it was in 1986. That's the height of the Reagan-era buildup against the Soviets. Can you talk about the major reasons why we're spending the same amount of money for a smaller force? Secretary Panetta. Senator, what we have here is that $487 billion was in the planned DOD budget over the next 10 years, and that included, obviously, a lot of what we've had to reduce in terms of the budget looking forward. So overall, make no mistake about it, even though the defense budget shows a slight increase between now and 2017, the bottom line when you add what we had proposed in our budget plus the amount that would be involved in terms of the war costs, we're going to be going down pretty dramatically, by about 20 percent, which is comparable to what we've seen in past drawdowns. So this budget bites. But at the same time, by virtue of what we've done we've made it much tighter. Obviously, we've had to take down the force structure. We've had to make cuts in ships and planes and in other areas, space, as you said. But the bottom line is we think we have a sustainable budget that will take us to the kind of force we're going to need in order to meet the threats that are out there in the world. Senator Udall. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Thank you, General Dempsey, for your service. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Udall. Senator Collins. Senator Collins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm sure at this point in the hearing, Secretary Panetta, that you're contemplating what Danny Akaka said to you and wondering about your career choice. But we do appreciate your service and indeed the service of all of you. General Dempsey, I want to bring up with you an issue that really troubles me. Since May 2007, Afghan security forces have killed 70 American and allied troops and wounded many more, over 100 more, in 45 separate attacks. One of those killed was a Maine soldier, Private First Class Buddy McLain. I'm so disturbed by the frequency of these attacks. It raises questions about our vetting process. It raises concerns among our troops when here they're risking their lives to train and assist these Afghan troops, only to have some of them turn on them and kill them. It's my understanding that a CENTCOM red team report concluded that there was a crisis of distrust that permeated both the Afghan national security troops that we're training and our own troops as well. So here they're being sent out on joint missions, they're training side by side, but they don't trust each other. Unless steps are taken to stop these attacks on our troops by the Afghan security personnel, that level of trust that is so necessary for a successful strategy is going to be extraordinarily difficult to achieve. After all, these are the very security forces that we're depending on to take over from us so that we can come back home. So I would ask you, what is being done to address this very serious and destructive problem? General Dempsey. Thanks, Senator. Yes, I'm well aware of this issue. In fact, I just recently briefed the President on it, who shares your concern. As you say, it's actually 47 instances. About 11 of them were related to infiltration or self-radicalization. The remainder were issues of personnel. It's stress, it's tribal. It's not related to Taliban influence or ideological issues. That's an important point. It doesn't make it any better, but it makes it more understandable. The other thing I want to mention is, it's not just what we call--it's not just them attacking us. They're attacking each other, and probably at a rate of about three times. So we are interested in this. We have an eight-step vetting process that includes--I don't have the entire thing memorized, but it includes things like letters from tribal elders, biometrics, training, indoctrination, and then the embedding of counterintelligence agents, both United States and coalition, but also Afghans themselves. Recently, because of this recent issue with the French you may recall, President Karzai and the Ministry of Interior, Bismillah Khan, agreed to embed some counterintelligence agents in throughout the Afghan National Army in order to try to get after this. So we're seized with it. It is tragic and we are taking steps to improve it. We are not going to get it to zero. It's the nature of this kind of conflict. Senator Collins. It's one thing to tell a family that's lost a loved one that they did so in support of the Afghan people to help them have a secure country and to make our national security better. But it's so different to try to console a family that has lost a son or daughter as a result of Afghan security force members killing them. I just think it's a terrible problem, and the seeming frequency of it is really disturbing. I realize we're never going to get to zero, but there are too many incidents. Secretary Panetta. Senator, if I could, I share your concern deeply. I just returned from the NATO ministerial, where obviously the French were very concerned, having lost some of their troops to this situation. What we did at the NATO ministerial was to task General Allen to report back on the steps that are being taken. Before this, he had actually taken some of the steps that General Dempsey recommended. They are moving aggressively to try to do a better review of those that are going into the Afghan army, better checks, better background checks, in order to ensure that these incidents are cut back. I would say that, even though no killings this way are in any way justifiable, that it still remains not something that is something that's endemic. It is sporadic, but nevertheless, we have to address it and make sure it doesn't happen. Senator Collins. Thank you. I would ask that your offices keep me informed as you do try to improve the process. Secretary Panetta, I share a lot of the concerns that my colleagues have expressed about some of the cuts in the budget, particularly those that affect shipbuilding and the size of our fleet. It seems inconsistent to say that we're going to focus on the Asia Pacific area and yet not seek to get to what for years has been the absolute minimum goal of 313 ships. I am pleased, however, that the budget request indicates that DOD intends to seek a multi-year procurement plan for the DDG-51 destroyers between now and 2017. First of all, do you support that plan, and do you see that as helping to produce the kinds of efficiencies that will lead to a lower cost per unit? Secretary Panetta. Absolutely. I think that's extremely important. Two things are important. We want to maintain--we have 285 ships now. We want to be at 285 ships in 2017. In the next 5 years, our hope is to gradually move up to 300 ships by 2020. So we're clearly intent on having a Navy that is fully capable to project that forward presence that we're interested in. Second, I think we have to do it in order to protect our economic base. We have to have a strong industrial base here that supports DOD, and for that reason my instructions are to do everything possible, not only to obviously get better competition and better savings, but to make sure that we keep our industrial base busy serving our needs. Senator Collins. That is so important, because once that industrial base is gone, you never get it back. Once those trained workers go into other fields, you've lost them forever, and that would greatly weaken our capabilities. I agree. Thank you for that response. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Collins. Senator Hagan. Senator Hagan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Dempsey, Secretary Panetta, and Mr. Hale, thank you for your service, and it is good afternoon now. Thank you for your leadership, particularly during this time. Improvised Explosive Device (IED) proliferation is a key concern of mine and it certainly has been for quite a while. I support anything that we can do to counter IEDs and obviously protect our troops, and I also support anything we can do to improve the detection rates and interdict the flow of caches of ammonium nitrate. Reportedly, last year in Afghanistan IEDs caused over half of U.S. military deaths, and IEDs will continue to pose an enduring threat to our military men and women. I believe we need an enduring capability to counter this threat. However, we have to ensure that our countermeasures effectively deal with the types of IEDs that we face now and in the future, along with the environments that they'll likely be utilized in, and our efforts must be geared toward countering IEDs in any locale. My figures show that we've spent approximately $17 billion on various counter-IED initiatives and equipment, not counting the $45 billion spent on mine-resistant ambush protected (MRAP) vehicles. I see these, our young soldiers, all the time with loss of limbs. We host wounded warrior luncheons in my office. I see them at the airports. I really want to do everything possible we can to counterdict the IEDs. But at the same time, we're spending billions of dollars to fight a technology that currently is costing the enemy tens of dollars. So I'm wondering, how do we figure out how to alter this investment ratio? What investments will DOD make in developing effective IED countermeasures in order to protect our troops and at the same time avoid restricting their freedom of movement? General Dempsey. Senator, the IED challenge is the enemy's asymmetric tool. I think you're correct in stating that it has been the biggest killer on the battlefield and is likely to remain so. That'll be true, I think, by the way, wherever we're deployed. I think we are so capable that they will find ways to attack us, and typically now that's through IEDs. The next challenge, by the way, will be precision rockets and missiles. But we'll get to that one. To your point about IEDs, the way we're trying to address the cost ratio is by expanding--and we have been doing this-- the aperture. So it's not just about trying to find technological means to defeat the device. Defeating the device is important--under-armor improvement kits, MRAP, as you say, mine detection, deep penetration radars, or ground-penetrating radars. But it's also training to identify signatures, and I'll explain that briefly in a second, and then also attacking the network. So you have to do all three. You have to identify signatures, and that is to say the components, the chemicals, and then find ways to identify those components and attack the supply chain. Then it's attacking the network. That includes the financiers and includes those who emplace. Then finally, it's defeating the device. We've gotten actually quite good at it, but again this is the enemy's principal munition that he uses against us and it does continue to incur casualties. So we just have to stay with it. I don't have any better answer than that. Secretary Panetta. If I could, Senator, follow up a little bit on that? Senator Hagan. Okay, yes, please. Secretary Panetta. Probably one of the best things that was developed was the MRAP, and it has saved a lot of lives and it was done on an expedited basis. So it's a good example, frankly, of trying to produce something needed by our fighting men and women on a fast basis. We're continuing to, obviously, do that kind of research, to try to develop the best ways to try to protect our young men and women. I agree with you, anybody who's seen the results of an IED has to shudder at the devastating wounds that result from that. The other piece of this, though, relates to the supply network for these IEDs. In some ways that relates to the safe haven in Pakistan that continues to supply a lot of this. That is an area that we believe we've urged the Pakistanis to address it. We think that whole issue needs to be addressed if we're going to be effective at trying to cut back on these. Senator Hagan. That was actually my next question, and I know we've discussed this before: What is DOD doing to put pressure on Pakistan's network of the distribution of ammonium nitrate? Secretary Panetta. We have made very clear to them where these threats emanate from. We've identified locations. We've directed them to specific sites. We've urged them to take steps. In some cases they have. In some cases they wind up there too late. But we're continuing to impress upon them that they have to be part of the answer to dealing with this issue. Senator Hagan. I think that would help tremendously, and hopefully lowering the number of the IEDs that are placed. Secretary Panetta, I also wanted to thank you for lifting the Marine Corps variant of the JSF off probation. The decision I believe is essential for the Marine Corps to operate and to move seamlessly from the sea ashore and in the air. It's also key to preserving the strategic value of our amphibious capabilities. Airlift capable of short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL), a great example is when the F-15 fighter pilot crashed in Libya and these airplanes were able to, I believe within about 90 minutes, take off from a large-deck amphibious ship, rescue the pilot, and have him back on board. So obviously there is a critical need. I also understand that the original JSF procurement was currently planned at 2,443 aircraft, and in light of the new Defense Strategic Guidance and budget, the JSF program perhaps is looking at being restructured, which may include fewer aircraft spread out over a longer timeframe. According to Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter, DOD will slow its approach to full rate production of aircraft. Do we have a projected timeline to complete the necessary testing and implementation of developmental changes in order to start buying the aircraft in higher quantities, and how is DOD conveying this to the defense industrial base, which Senator Collins was just talking about? Secretary Panetta. We think it's extremely important to get these fifth generation fighters out there as soon as we can. Obviously, it's taken time. There's been a lot of testing. They've had to readjust. The STOVL is the best example of that. There were five areas that were identified that put it on probation. They dealt with all five areas. It's tested well. Now, we're basically into software testing right now, and one of the reasons we wanted to slow it is to make sure that we knew what the problems were and we could get ahead of it, rather than go ahead producing these things and costing even more if we're catching up with some of the problems. So we think we've set the right timeframe. I think our hope is that by, what, 2017, we'll begin to produce these planes? Mr. Hale. We're buying them now, some tests. But they will be operational aircraft as well. We've just slowed the ramp, so we don't buy so many and then have to fix them later, which is very expensive. So we're buying them now. We'll buy 29 aircraft in fiscal year 2013, and I don't have in my head the number in 2017, but it will be substantially higher than that. We've just slowed down the ramp. Senator Hagan. My time for questions is over, but I did want to emphasize that I think it's critically important that DOD continue to invest in S&T programs and the research and development initiatives. These are the seeds that we need to plant and nurture in order to ensure that our military remains the best and most technologically advanced in the world, especially when dealing with the emerging threats. I just don't think we can emphasize enough the need for research and development. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Hagan. Senator Cornyn. Senator Cornyn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. You have my respect and admiration. You also have a very difficult job, which we've talked a little about. But let me just start with a quote from the DNI, James Clapper, who 2 weeks ago said: ``Never has there been in my almost 49-year career in intelligence a more complex and interdependent array of challenges than we face today. Capabilities, technologies, know-how, communications, and environmental forces aren't confined by borders and can trigger transnational disruptions with astonishing speed, as we have seen.'' I doubt you would disagree with his comments. I don't know anybody who would. But the challenge we're all struggling with--and Senator Lieberman, among others, has expressed this--is our heartfelt desire to have the mission determine the budget and not the budget the mission. You are, of course, constrained by law that Congress passes and that the President signs, so we realize that this is our responsibility. Your responsibility is to try to minimize risks and to maximize our national security, given the money appropriated by Congress. I appreciate, General Dempsey, your talking about looking beyond the budget window to long-term risk. But let me talk about a near-term risk and something that's already been alluded to here. That is, Secretary Panetta, you and others, have made statements that there are certain red lines with regard to Iran--such as blockading the Straits of Hormuz, building a nuclear weapon. Iran is important to us, it's important to the region, but it's an existential threat to Israel, our ally. I don't believe they're going to wait on anyone else in determining what determines their right to continue to exist and their people's security. Of course, Iran's already been killing Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq in a low-grade war against the United States and other NATO allies. But if Iran is hit by Israel, what sort of retaliation would you anticipate against not only Israel, but other countries in the region and American personnel in the Middle East? Secretary Panetta. The General suggests that we ought to look at a closed session to really address all the implications of what that may or may not mean. Obviously, we're very concerned about it. We're looking at all of the implications and consequences that could result. But it really involves intelligence and we should do that in closed session. Senator Cornyn. I respect your judgment on that, Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, and I look forward to further briefings on that. But it strikes me that, we're not saying we're cashing the peace dividend, but we are certainly making disproportionate cuts to DOD and our national security expenditures. My view is that this is the number one responsibility the Federal Government has--a lot of other things that we do, we could put off or do without. But this is it; this is the most important thing that the Federal Government does. There are very real, not long-term but near-term, potentialities that could embroil not only the United States, but the Middle East and our allies, in a full-fledged war that would have dire economic consequences to our country and obviously to our allies. More than economic, also matters of life and death and existence. Secretary Panetta. Senator, without getting into the particulars, let me just assure you that we have very strong capabilities in place to deal with any circumstances that could develop in that region. We feel fully prepared for whatever might take place. Senator Cornyn. I'm confident you've done everything that you know how to do to prepare and our military and DOD has as well. It will not be without cost. It will not be without casualties. It will not be without serious consequences, is my only point. So it troubles me, at a time when our national security apparatus is asked to do more with less, in a world that's getting more dangerous, not less dangerous, that we have a budget that unfortunately engages in--I guess the most charitable words I can use is ``phantom savings''--phantom savings. Some might call it budgetary gimmicks and the like. For example, the so-called trillion dollars in savings from a drawdown in operations in Afghanistan and Iraq that are not currently planned, which have been funded by borrowed money in the past 10 years, and which really represent--here's one headline in the National Journal, it says: ``Pentagon budget revives war spending voodoo.'' Like I said, I think ``phantom savings'' is the most charitable thing I've seen. It just strikes me as extraordinarily dangerous at a time when the risk is deadly serious to have a budget proposal which makes a trillion dollars in savings on expenditures that we never anticipated spending in the first place. At the same time, I will grant you, we don't know what the risks will be in the future. Let me close on this item. It's a little more concrete. It appears from my reading of the budget that there is a decrease of about 50 percent in the budget for training and equipping of Afghan security forces from 2012 to 2013. I'd like first, a confirmation that my reading is correct; and second--Mr. Hale is nodding that it's correct, so I will just ask you, if our withdrawal from Afghanistan is conditioned on the ability of the Afghans to defend themselves and maintain stability there, how is a cutting of the budget by 50 percent from 2012 to 2013 consistent with that? General Dempsey. I'll take that one, Senator. The ANSF fund was front-loaded when we had to develop a lot of their infrastructure. We front-loaded the purchase of a lot of their equipment. What you're seeing in this budget is that most of the capital investments, in our terms, have been made in the previous years. So the reduction is a reflection that we have what we need, and most of the fund now is for replenishment and training and operations. But the simple answer to your question is we front- loaded the investments, the capital investments. Senator Cornyn. In terms of size of the force and capability, do you see that getting larger or maintaining the status quo? General Dempsey. We are committed to building the Afghan security forces out to 352,000, 195,000 of which is the army. That will be completed here within the next 90 to 120 days. We have not yet decided how long we'll keep it at that size, but that's a question we're looking at as we determine how to get from here to 2014 and deliver the Lisbon objectives. Senator Cornyn. Thank you very much. Secretary Panetta. I might just add, Senator, to follow up on that, one of the things that was important in 2011 was that not only were we able to reduce the level of violence and weaken the Taliban, but one of the important things that took place is that the Afghan army really stepped up and started taking over real responsibility in terms of security. In the areas that we've transitioned so far--and we're in the second tranche of those transitions--the Afghan army is doing a very good job at taking over security. We just have to make sure we continue to train them, we continue to make them capable to be able to take that responsibility. General Dempsey. Mr. Chairman, could I respond? Chairman Levin. If you can do it quickly. General Dempsey. I will, very quickly. Chairman Levin. Very quickly. General Dempsey. That National Journal article, I don't ascribe to its conclusions because I've been so involved in the process. Some of the changes we made definitely will have an effect on our base budget. Some of those effects will be mitigated in the near-term by OCO. That's what he's talking about, that we've papered over the problem. But I don't accept that. The Army in particular has 10,000 to 12,000 non-deployable soldiers directly resulting from the repeated deployments, and we're going to pay that bill out of OCO because it is related to OCO. Senator Cornyn. We don't know what sort of unexpected challenges and threats our country will face in the future, is my point. General Dempsey. We do not, sir, and I accept that. But that's what contingency funds are for. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Cornyn. Senator Gillibrand, to be followed by, according to my list, Senator Shaheen, Senator Blumenthal, Senator Manchin. Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Thank you, General Dempsey. I appreciate your service. Thank you, Mr. Comptroller, as well. I understand you touched earlier today on the value of the Guard and Reserves and how important their service has been, serving shoulder to shoulder in both Afghanistan and Iraq. With regard to your Air Force restructuring strategy, about half the cuts have come out of the Guard, even though they only represented about a third of the costs. I believe the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs did a report talking about managing budget issues, and actually made the point that Guard and Reserves provide capabilities at a lower cost than would be the case were the Nation to rely solely on full-time forces. So I have a concern about the decisionmaking with regard to the Air National Guard, and specifically because of the assets that New York has. Obviously, we all have specific assets and strategies and resources in our States that we think are particularly important for our national security. But one thing that a lot of our bases and assets have is this National Guard and Reserve component that has been so effective in both Iraq and Afghanistan. So I would like to urge you to look at that restructuring to see if there are cost savings by maintaining particularly Air Force National Guard and Reserve components as they are, whether it's Zebruski or whether it's in Niagara. Those are important aspects. The second issue that I want to highlight with regard to New York specifically is the cyber mission that we do. We do such an important mission for cyber security and cyber defense in Rome, Rome Labs, that has been vital, I think, in being at the cutting edge of both technology and research and development. One thing that I want to bring your attention to is what makes New York so good at doing some of this is the public- private partnerships that have developed with the private sector. A lot of the DOD contracts are being done by private developers, researchers, scientists, that have developed as a hub in all these areas across New York. We have the nanotech center in Albany, we have Rome Labs, we have throughout western New York a lot of research and development that will very much complement the work that the military is doing. I understand that there will be interest in consolidations and cutting, but you will lose that synergy, that effort towards collaboration and clustering that is so important in the high tech sector, and I don't want you to underestimate how valuable that is for the military. Then last, just to speak to these particular assets in New York, we are 100 percent staffed. We have no environmental issues. We have a workforce and communities that are so dedicated to the mission that the armed services have placed on these men and women, that you will lose some of that enormous benefit to the extent you have to consolidate or restructure. We would love to gain missions, particularly with the National Guard and Reserve training, with unmanned aircraft and with cyber. So I wanted to just give you that background. Secretary Panetta. Senator, there are just a couple of things and then I'll yield to the General. First of all, on cyber, we are making increased investments there of about $3.4 billion and even more in the out-years, because we think cyber is extremely important. So obviously partnering with the private sector is extremely important, and being able to develop the technological capability that we're going to need to have for the future, so I think that's important to remember. Second, with regards to the Air Reserve, I understand the concerns. The Air Force made the decisions. Some of these planes in the past have come out of the Active-Duty Force and that's one of the reasons they tried to look at where some of the reductions could be made based on the age of these planes, as well as their capabilities. But they are trying to do whatever they can to mitigate against those impacts, because again we do need to depend on the Reserves to be there. They've responded in dramatic fashion over these last few years every time we've called upon them to come forward and take their place alongside other fighting men and women in the battlefield, and they've done a great job. We want to be able to maintain that for the future. But that was the reason some of these cuts were made in those areas. General Dempsey. The only thing I'd add, you mentioned cyber and I want to mention for the record that we strongly support the Lieberman-Collins-Rockefeller legislation, to get us in the proper place in dealing with the cyber threat, which is significant and growing, as well as the Senator Feinstein amendment to that legislation. So I'd like to say that. Then I'd also say, I'm one of your constituents and how about them Giants? [Laughter.] Senator Gillibrand. Go Giants! [Laughter.] Thank you all for your service. I wanted to make sure that there's nothing else that you need in the cyber bill as well, that you have reviewed it, and that it is providing the assets and resources that you need to enhance your mission. Secretary Panetta. I think the General is correct, that the bill that I know is being put together by Senator Lieberman and others reflects all of the issues that we think are important to address. So we'll continue to work, however, with the Senate and with Congress to make sure that if a bill does emerge it addresses our concerns about trying to make this country better prepared to deal with the cyber issues that are growing every day. Senator Gillibrand. I would request that you look at the legislation with an eye towards making sure you have all the authorities that you need to support this growing mission, and also the resources necessary to do adequate recruitment, because obviously we want the strongest pipeline for cyber defense that we could create and the flexibility to bring in the talent that you're looking for. We want to make sure that, whether it's civilian talent or through the normal course, we want to make sure you have the flexibility and ability to recruit, train, and keep the best and brightest to do that. Last, if I have time, Mr. Chairman, it's a very separate issue, but one I feel very strongly about, that I would like your commitment. I've heard you already speak to the issue of sexual assault in the military and the ability of the military to respond effectively to those concerns, to allegations, and to making sure we have the best fighting force we can have. That means that we create the right protocols and the right ability for women to be able to report such incidents and to be heard on those issues. I'd like your comments, your views on that, and I would like to work with each of you on developing stronger protections for our women who are serving. Secretary Panetta. Senator, we look forward to working with you on this issue. You've provided great leadership on this issue, and it's an area that concerns me greatly, that the incidents of sexual assault have grown. Frankly, my concern is that we have to be able to take action in these situations. I announced a series of steps to try to improve our response to sexual assault. One of the most important things is to make sure that the command structure responds to these situations, because the longer they take to respond, it inhibits the ability to bring a case, and that's what has hurt us in being able to move aggressively in most of these cases. So we need to do a broad education effort to make sure that the command structure understands how important it is to respond in these situations. We also need a legislative package and I would like to work with you in trying to address the legislative needs that we're going to need in order to really be able to get this problem in control. Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Senator Shaheen. Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Secretary Panetta, General Dempsey, and Mr. Hale, for your commitment and your stamina. We appreciate it. I want to begin actually where you began, Mr. Secretary, that Congress must do everything possible to avoid sequestration, because I certainly agree with that. I share the concerns we've heard expressed from my colleagues. I'm not going to ask you to respond to this, but I would certainly hope that we in Congress would do what you have been willing to do, and that is to put everything on the table and put aside our posturing and come to some agreement that addresses the long- term debt and deficits of this country. It is inexcusable that we are in this position now with you and all of the men and women who are serving in defense and in our military and across the Federal Government not knowing what we're going to do because we have been unable to act. So I would like to start with where Senator Gillibrand left off, and that is with the Guard and Reserve. I was very pleased, Mr. Secretary, to see in your statement that you talked about continuing a National Guard that is equipped and ready. I know that the decision to transition our Guard and Reserve units from a strategic reserve to an operational reserve required a significant investment and a change in strategy. So, General Dempsey, I wonder if you could speak to the original rationale for that transition? General Dempsey. I think it's important to roll back the tapes, maybe all the way back to 1973, when, coming out of the Vietnam war, there were no Joint Chiefs at the time, but the Service Chiefs all realized that one of the problems we had during that conflict was we really never got the American people involved because it was borne on the back of the Active component, with very little reliance upon the Guard and Reserve. So we built a structure that not only allows for the utilization of the Guard and Reserve, but it makes it absolutely necessary. So the question is not will we use the Guard and Reserve, because fully a third of the capabilities necessary at any given time to do anything reside in the Guard and Reserve. So we are committed to it. What we've found in this conflict as we went forward, we relearned a lot of those lessons. We made some pretty significant investments and the Guard and Reserve and the Active component have never been closer. Now, as we go forward, of course, and as the demand goes down, that's going to put some--and the budget goes down-- strain on that relationship. You've seen some of that already. But I can tell you that each Service has a plan in terms of the rotational readiness of its formations, that they will include the Guard and Reserve in that rotation. So the entire Guard will never be operational, any more than the entire Active component is always operational. But I think you can feel secure in the knowledge that we understand and will work toward this goal in a rotational readiness cycle. Senator Shaheen. I appreciate that. As we look forward this year, I know that the Air Force is going to be making some initial decisions on where to base the new KC-46 tankers, and I would hope that the Air Force and DOD will take a look and ensure that at least some of those aircraft are based at Guard bases around the country. I have one particular in mind, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions. But can I ask you, is there a commitment on the part of DOD to base some of those new tankers at Guard facilities? Secretary Panetta. I think the Air Force is looking at a whole set of options in order to make sure that we mitigate whatever cuts have been made and make use of the facilities that are out there with the National Guard and Reserve. I can assure you that they'll be in consideration. [The information referred to follows:] The Department of Defense will make use of the National Guard and Reserve facilities, consistent with operational needs. Regarding where to base the KC-46 tankers, I will reiterate that these facilities will be in consideration. Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I appreciate that. I would also like to go back to BRAC, which a number of my colleagues have addressed, and I share many of the concerns that have been expressed. I know, Secretary Panetta, that you've said you've seen just about every side of the BRAC process. Can you commit to providing us with a comprehensive assessment of the savings from the 2005 round, and I assume if you're looking at 2013 and 2015, that you also have estimates of savings in those two rounds, and that we would also see those as we're looking at a decision about what to do about the next BRAC round? Secretary Panetta. I'll be happy to give you what information we have with regards to the past BRAC rounds, and obviously some ideas about what we would do in terms of future rounds. As I said, I've been through the process. Frankly, I don't wish the process on anybody, having been through it, because it is tough. 25 percent of my local economy was hit by virtue of a BRAC closure. But we did use it as an opportunity to develop a college-university campus there and it's proved very successful as a reuse. I think the issue is it did cost a lot more than anybody anticipated, but the fact is, we are achieving in the long-run significant savings as a result of that. That's number one. Number two, I don't know of any other way to deal with the kind of infrastructure savings we have to achieve here as a result of reducing the force without going through that kind of process. That's the problem I have. It's the most effective way of trying to address that issue. Senator Shaheen. Certainly in New Hampshire we've seen both sides of the issue, because Pease Air Force Base was the first base closed in the country. Fortunately, it's doing very well now. The Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, which is on the border between New Hampshire and Maine, was actually removed from the last round by the commission because of their effectiveness. One concern I have as we look going forward, particularly with respect to our public shipyards, is that there's a real backlog of projects that need to be done at those shipyards. Obviously, the Portsmouth shipyard is not alone in that. They have been producing, I think, very well despite that backlog. They just delivered the USS San Juan attack submarine 8 days ahead of schedule, despite some of the challenges with that. Senator Collins and Senator Ayotte and I had a modernization in last year's defense authorization bill that asks DOD to produce a shipyard modernization plan to address these shortfalls. I hope that DOD will take that very seriously and produce that, because as we're looking at our security going forward, those public shipyards are a critical part of that. Secretary Panetta. Senator, as I stated before and I'll say again, we absolutely have to maintain the industrial base we have, and the shipyards in your area, the other shipyards we deal with, are extremely important to our ability to respond to the needs that we have. So we're going to do everything possible to work with you, not only to increase, obviously, the competitive nature of trying to achieve savings, but also to try to do what we can to provide those upgrades. Senator Shaheen. Thank you. A final question. Secretary Panetta, one of the concerns that we've heard in a number of reports over recent years has been the challenge of attracting people with the backgrounds that we're going to need, with science, technology, engineering, and math subjects, to be able to continue to do the jobs that are critical to our defense establishment. I wonder if either you or General Dempsey could address what strategy we have for trying to attract those young professionals when the private sector is offering them so many more attractive monetary rewards. Secretary Panetta. Initially I shared the same concern. I know when I went out to the National Security Agency and when I look at the people that are involved in that area, not only at my past agency, but other agencies as well, I have to tell you we are attracting some very bright, capable, young people to those jobs. They're very interested, they're very capable, and with the investment we're making in cyber, I'm absolutely convinced we're going to be able to attract the talent to be able to make that work. Senator Shaheen. I think our challenge as a Nation is to get enough young people engaged in those subjects, so we're training the people we need. General Dempsey? General Dempsey. I think the Service Chiefs will have a view on this as well, and it's actually exacerbated by the fact that--and I think you and I have actually had this conversation--only about one out of every four American young men and women can qualify to get into the military, either based on education or physical issues or issues of making really stupid Facebook posts in their youth or something. So we are all competing, as you say, academia, corporate America, and the military, for the same 25 percent of the population. So the answer has to be to get after education in this country as well, it seems to me. Senator Shaheen. I totally agree. General Dempsey, I was very disappointed to hear you mention the Giants. You're fortunate that all the other New England members of this committee have gone. [Laughter.] General Dempsey. My condolences, ma'am. [Laughter.] Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Blumenthal. Senator Blumenthal. Just in fairness, General Dempsey, and as a New Englander, I interpreted your remark more as an expression of battlefield admiration than an endorsement. So I think you're still on fair ground. [Laughter.] I want to thank all of you for your extraordinarily effective and persuasive explanation of the President's budget and thank you for your patience in answering our questions so effectively. I want to begin with a subject that the President certainly emphasized, which is undersea warfare capability, and note the slipping, postponing, delaying, whatever the correct term is, of a submarine construction, one submarine from 2014 to 2018. I have heard from Electric Boat and indeed within the Navy about the cost savings that can be realized if we stay on schedule and build two submarines every year. I wonder if there is a possibility for considering and perhaps your hearing our views on that issue, Secretary Panetta? Secretary Panetta. This is all about, obviously, having to reduce the budget by half a trillion dollars. We have to look really closely at affordability and cost efficiencies. If anybody comes forward with a better idea as to how to save money, I'm more than open to listen to it. Senator Blumenthal. I think we may come forward if you'd be willing to consider it. Secretary Panetta. Absolutely. Senator Blumenthal. I would appreciate it. Let me go to what you have really very convincingly said is the military's greatest asset, which is its people, and you've been discussing it very movingly and inspiringly, most recently to Senator Shaheen, talking about keeping faith and providing many of the men and women, our warfighters who are going to be coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan, with jobs and transition assistance, which has been expanded under the most recent legislation on veterans to be approved by this Congress, an amendment that I offered in a separate bill. I want to focus on what can be done to aid those veterans before they leave the service to more effectively transition into civilian employment, because as they come back if they enter the Guard or Reserve, to have an unemployment rate which is vastly higher, that is, right now in Connecticut, double the general rate in Connecticut, 15.5 percent as compared to 8.2 percent, will simply be a profound deterrent to anyone going into the Armed Forces. If that is going to be the kind of hurdle they face coming out of the service, it will defeat your best efforts to recruit the brightest and most capable. Secretary Panetta. Senator, this is a problem that I worry about a great deal. Frankly, it's one of the risks involved as we reduce the budget by this level, is how to ensure that we take care of those that are returning. We already have a backlog and we're going to be pumping anywhere from 12,000 to 14,000 a year as we go through these drawdowns. I think it is extremely important that we be able to provide the services as these men and women come back to really be able to counsel them, to gather them, to make sure they're aware of the job opportunities, to make sure they're aware of the education opportunities, to make sure they're aware of the funds that are available to help them transition, to make sure that their families are cared for as well, as we make that transition. This has to be a package approach. Each Service now does it in their own way. They do it pretty effectively. But I think we have to make very clear that nobody should fall through the cracks. Senator Blumenthal. I know the Marine Corps has been doing it more effectively. I've talked to General Amos about---- Secretary Panetta. They do a great job. Senator Blumenthal.--his very, very effective work. I wonder if--and you may already be doing it--there's some servicewide approach building on the best models and best practices, would be appropriate. Secretary Panetta. We are looking at that. General Dempsey. If I could add, Senator, there are more initiatives on this issue than we possibly have time to discuss. As the Secretary mentioned earlier, we're trying to team ever more closely with the VA to do this. We're starting to take a view that transition begins when you enter a Service, not in the last 6 weeks before you leave it. But the other thing I want to mention here is some of this can be legislated, some of this can be made a matter of policy, but this is one of those issues that will be best solved from the bottom up when corporate America reaches out to embrace the returning veterans. By the way, a lot of them are. I can't tell you how many times I'll go to some conference or something and someone will tell me that they have a new initiative to hire 10,000 veterans. So I think it's a matter of merging what can be done at the governmental level, but also what needs to be done at the grassroots level to help this out. Senator Blumenthal. I would agree with you, General Dempsey, that corporate America is stepping forward more often and more effectively. But I don't believe I'm telling you anything you haven't heard before in saying that there's still a lot of employers who look at somebody who's in the National Guard or the Reserves and who say, not explicitly, but think to themselves: This person's going to be gone for a year or more if he or she is deployed, and better to hire someone I know I can count on to be on the job without interruption. That is discrimination. It's illegal if it can be proved, but it has to be surmounted as a matter of practice implicit in some of the employers. I believe that we need more effective measures for enforcement to counter that approach, because it will undermine your best efforts, which I admire, to attract the best and most capable to the Guard and the Reserve. So I'm not asking for your comment, but I hope that perhaps we can work together on the initiatives that we don't have time to discuss here. Just one last question. The IEDs that all too often are maiming and killing our warfighters, I wonder whether there are new initiatives there that perhaps we can discuss, if not here, at some other point, because I've been interested in it and appreciated Secretary Carter's very important work in accelerating delivery of the so-called biker shorts and the groin protective gear, and also the work that I hope is being done to discourage the Pakistanis from permitting the fertilizer and ammonium calcium nitrate from crossing the border and going into these roadside bombs. Secretary Panetta. Yes, Senator. I know that your time is short on this round, but I'd just assure you that we are seized with this. Our relations with Pakistan have been somewhat challenged. They're improving, and this is one of the points of friction between us that we have to get at. Senator Blumenthal. Thank you very much and I appreciate your answers to my questions. I want to associate myself with the remarks made by Senator Gillibrand and your remarks about the problem of sexual assault within the military, but also the issue of suicides, which we will not have time to discuss today, perhaps I can follow up with you on. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator Manchin. Senator Manchin. First of all, I want to commend the three of you for your endurance. I know you've been through this before, and a lot of the questions have probably been touched on that I wanted to ask, but I wanted to go over a few things, if I may. First of all, the most defining moment in my short Senate career was when Admiral Mullen sat there and the question was asked to him, ``what's the greatest threat the United States of America faces?'' I thought I would hear some type of a military response, whether it was al Qaeda, whether it was North Africa, or China building up their military. He didn't even hardly hesitate. He came right back and said that ``the deficit and debt of this Nation is the greatest security risk.'' I know you all realize that and take it serious, too, and I know we've talked about it, Mr. Secretary. I'm looking everywhere I can to cross over the aisle in a bipartisan way to find out how we can make this financial, the wherewithals that we have financially, but also get our financial house in order. I know that we talked about cutting back, and everybody--I don't know of anybody in here, Democrat or Republican, that does not support a strong military. But everybody's afraid of the political ramification if they say one thing. I can only say this to you, that with the growth of the contractors in the military--when I looked at just the period of time, maybe 10 years, and the support of contractors--and I'm not talking about the manufacturing base of contracting, and I wanted to maybe mention, if you would, as I get done with this question, about Buy America and how we can do more in America to make sure that we are supporting the manufacturing base. But with that being said, in a simplistic way I believe that we could strengthen the military or men and women in uniform by reducing the contractors who are doing the same. I hear an awful lot of them that tell me that. I see them in the airports, and I ask every one of them that are private contractors that are going back to Afghanistan, and I stop and I talk to them. I introduce myself. Were most of you previous military? Yes. Would you have stayed in the military if not for the large paychecks that you might be able to get from the contractors? Yes, we would have if this option wasn't there. So I can't figure this one out. Then it'll dovetail into the whole thing I'm going to talk to, which I know everybody's talked about, how do we best use our National Guard? We're all extremely proud, but I can give you examples of how we say--but first of all, the purpose of contracting. Can't we cut the amount of contractors that we have that are doing the same jobs as military without facing political ramifications of you're cutting the military? I'm not going to vote to cut the military, but I will cut the contractors, sir. Secretary Panetta. Senator, this is an area that we're paying attention to in the efficiencies that we're looking at, which are going to be about $60 billion. This is one of the areas that we are looking at, contract services, number of contracts that are provided, in order to determine where we can achieve savings. Any ideas you have, recommendations along these lines, we're more than happy to listen to. This is a big job, going after $487 billion in savings. So I'm willing to look at any area necessary. Senator Manchin. Mr. Secretary, there was a report--I want to make sure of this--that $12 million a day for the past 10 years in Iraq and Afghanistan has been wasted, misspent, whatever, by contractors. I think that report was given to you, too. So there's many areas. But I'm just saying, wherever a uniformed person can do it, why--I know we're cutting 100,000 troops. That concerns me. If anything, I'd rather cut 200,000 contractors and keep the 100,000 uniforms and use the support of our National Guard. I will say this, that they touched on the veterans, all of us. To me, in the private sector you do the best job of providing the training for a military person, their discipline, their ability to come out and they can do it. Why is our unemployment so high, and what are we doing wrong? We started a caucus, I started it with Senator Kirk, and it's ``Hire a Vet.'' I have two vets in my office and we're looking for more good vets. We always do. How do we do this to prepare to get them back in? I know that the Senator from New York touched on that quickly. Secretary Panetta. I think, and I'll let the General expand upon this, but we really are--look, part of the problem is the economy, the overall economy. These kids are coming back and they go back home, and most of these local economies are having tough economic times, and you suddenly pour some of these young men and women back into their communities and there aren't jobs for the people that are there, much less for these young people that are coming back. Having said that, we really have had some impressive efforts by the private sector because of the reasons you suggested. These are kids who are disciplined. They usually have a capability and a talent that is extraordinary that can be used. Most of the private sector people I talk to really want to have these kinds of individuals as part of their workforce. More and more of these individuals are now coming forward. We've set up a web site where we list the jobs that are available in the private sector. More of these private sector individuals are committing themselves to hire our vets as they come back. So there is an important effort going forward, but a lot of it obviously depends on an economy that has to recover as well. Senator Manchin. I think, first of all, I want to commend all of you for working with our office so close on this new caucus. As I just previously mentioned, we just started it, ``Hire a Vet.'' We would like to even expand on that with you. If we would know who's cycling out and what skill sets, so we could network better, we think there's ways that we could improve on this and work together. So I appreciate that and we'll be very close. General Dempsey, my final question would be to you. I talked about the National Guard. In West Virginia we've been very blessed by having a highly rated National Guard, one of the best in the Nation. A lot of people get a lot of good training, and I'm so proud of them. We saved DOD $27 million this year alone. If these small town facilities were fully tasked, we could do that, we think DOD could save $250 million a year. We're talking about things that basically is refurbishing generators, the Humvees, tents, tire assemblies, these are things that we have been able to do at tremendous cost savings. I'm sure other Guards are doing them also. Is there a way that we can network more of that to use our Guard? We've proven that the savings in just a couple of our little facilities were quite substantial. I don't know how we can expand on that. General Dempsey. I don't either, sitting here today with you, Senator. But certainly we all, to include the Service Chiefs, who really are the leaders of their particular Guard-- you're going to have General--I'm not throwing him under the bus here, but you're going to have General Odierno here later in the week, and I think he would be eager to understand that and see if we can take advantage of it. Clearly, anything we can do to in-source, and I mean Active, Guard, and Reserve--is effort well spent. Senator Manchin. Yes. The other thing, it gives the training to the person we're trying to cycle back into the private sector, so it has a twofold purpose. I think you all realize the sensitivity of what we're dealing with here, trying to make sure that we give you what is needed to keep this safe and free. On the other hand, the responsibility, when General Mullen said our greatest threat is basically our own finances, so we're taking all that serious. We need your help, and we think contracting--if we can downsize the contracting, reinforce the military and people in uniform, I think you'll have us all on both sides. You might be able to bridge the gap that we can't bridge. Secretary Panetta. Senator, if I could just comment. Look, I think DOD has stepped up to the plate. What we've proposed here is real, it's well thought out. We've done a strategy to back up our decisions, and all of that's contained in our recommendations. But I really would urge you and others to engage in the broader discussion that has to take place with regards to how we reduce the deficit. That has to include a number of areas that, unfortunately, have not been on the table, that have to be on the table if we're ever going to confront the debt crisis that faces this country. This can't just fall on the backs of defense. Other areas have to be considered if we're going to be able to effectively reduce the deficit. Senator Manchin. There's a group of us in a bipartisan effort that are looking at ways that--and we know it takes everything, getting the money that we're not receiving now that should be paid in revenues, and also make sure we get fraud, waste, and abuse, and run more efficiently. So I think you're going to find quite a few of us on both sides willing to meet with you, sir. Thank you so much. I appreciate all your service. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Manchin. As I mentioned before, I hope all of us will take a look at the proposals in the budget in front of us to raise an additional $3 trillion for deficit reduction. It's in the budget that came in yesterday, but it seems a lot of us are unaware of that. Half of that is revenue increases. Upper income tax increases, restoring their bracket, the millionaires tax, a number of other revenue measures, are in this request. I was surprised by so many of our colleagues here today talking about the need for deficit reduction and the importance of avoiding sequestration--which I think, by the way, is a bipartisan goal--were unaware of the fact, because I don't think the administration, frankly, has done a good job of focusing on what's in their own budget in terms of deficit reduction. It meets the $1.5 or $1.2 trillion goal. Senator Manchin. Mr. Chairman, we've had this discussion and we can raise the revenues without raising taxes, by closing the loopholes---- Chairman Levin. Exactly right. Senator Manchin.--changing our corporate laws, changing and making sure there's a fairness. If the American people think that we're putting fairness to the system, I'll guarantee you they're behind us 1,000 percent. Chairman Levin. They are. It's amazing, when you look at public opinion polls they say that we have to include revenues in deficit reduction. We can do it without raising taxes on middle income Americans. Senator Manchin. We can cut spending, too, sir. Chairman Levin. We can cut spending, too. The balance in this budget that has been given to us yesterday is about 50 percent additional cuts and about 50 percent additional revenues. But frankly, I don't think the administration in its rollout yesterday focused on the fact that this would avoid sequestration. This budget, if we adopted it, avoids sequestration. It does it because finally they're talking about additional revenues. Now, they've talked about it in the administration, but now they've put it in their budget. We had Republican colleagues today talking about avoiding sequestration, and when I pointed out this budget that was given to us avoids sequestration because there's additional revenues in it, what they were saying is, well, they hope they can vote on it. Well, my answer to that is we also ought to have a Republican alternative, if there is one, so we can see exactly what the options are in that regard. So we've had silence on the revenue side from our Republican colleagues, and it's that silence which needs to be corrected by the administration, frankly. I would hope that there would be greater focus on what's in the budget relative to the revenues which will help us avoid sequestration. We all want to avoid sequestration. I think that you are interested in having a bite to eat. We thank you very, very much, and we thank your staffs. We will stand adjourned. [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:] Questions Submitted by Senator Carl Levin NONSTANDARD EQUIPMENT 1. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the Department of Defense (DOD) has acquired millions of dollars in tactical nonstandard equipment to address the evolving threat in Afghanistan (and previously in Iraq), including the enemy's use of improvised explosive devices (IED). To what extent are you considering this nonstandard equipment purchased by Joint IED Defeat Organization (JIEDDO) and others to meet urgent warfighter needs as equipment that should be added as standard equipment to unit requirements? Secretary Panetta. DOD has established and utilized processes, such as Army G-3 Capabilities Development for Rapid Transition and Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization Transition, Transfer, Terminate Process, to review and transfer equipment and capabilities for service sustainment. A significant amount of equipment (e.g., body armor, CREW, Counter-Rocket, Artillery and Mortar, radios, et cetera) is already transitioning to the Services and the standardized equipment list. Supporting these efforts, DOD is conducting two separate but related studies to identify and review counter-improvised explosive capabilities, including nonstandard equipment that are appropriate to sustain. The studies will also serve to identify a plan to transition the necessary capabilities funded by overseas contingency operations (OCO) to programs of record. These ongoing studies will inform DOD's development of the President's budget for fiscal year 2014. General Dempsey. The Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), the Joint Staff, and the JIEDDO work closely with the Services to identify which of the nonstandard equipment purchased to meet urgent warfighter needs should be added as standard equipment. JIEDDO assists in the process by conducting monthly meetings with the Services and Joint Staff to identify if a JIEDDO-funded program should be transitioned, transferred, or terminated based on Service and Joint Staff requirements. This year-long process culminates in direction to the Services from the Deputy Secretary of Defense to assume responsibility for JIEDDO initiatives identified for transfer or transition. 2. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, to what extent has DOD identified future maintenance and other sustainment costs for these items that will have to be funded in future base budgets? Secretary Panetta. The Deputy Secretary of Defense directed the Under Secretary (Comptroller)/Chief Financial Officer to study enduring activities funded through the OCO portion of DOD's budget. This study, co-led by the Director, Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation, is in process. The study is to inform DOD's decisions regarding, among other items, the approach to fund enduring equipment needs. General Dempsey. The Deputy Secretary of Defense directs the Services to assume responsibility for JIEDDO funded programs and equipment in one of two categories: transferred or transitioned. A transferred program is a proven counter-improvised explosive device (C- IED) capability that is not assessed to be an enduring capability for the Joint Force, but one that requires sustainment for the current conflict. Maintenance and sustainment costs are shifted from JIEDDO to the appropriate Service to be funded using OCO funds. A transitioned program is assessed as an enduring capability for the Joint Force and ownership, management, funding, and future development becomes a base capability of the appropriate Service and is requested in the President's budget. As part of a larger effort by the DOD, the Joint Staff has initiated a review of the C-IED portfolio to identify enduring requirements. This review will be used to inform Services as they prepare future budgets in the context of DOD's new Defense Strategic Guidance. 3. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what are the plans for placing these estimated requirements into the Services' budgets for fiscal year 2013 and beyond? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. The Joint Staff, Services, and JIEDDO are conducting a comprehensive C-IED portfolio review to determine which of the nonstandard equipment programs established by JIEDDO are enduring and should become Programs of Record. This review will inform the Services as they incorporate C-IED capabilities into their respective budgets for fiscal year 2014 and beyond. AFGHANISTAN DISTRIBUTION CHALLENGES 4. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in a 2011 report to Congress, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that although U.S. Transportation Command (TRANSCOM) has established some processes for oversight, it does not have full oversight of the distribution of supplies and equipment to the warfighter in Afghanistan. In addition, DOD has taken some steps to mitigate challenges in distributing materiel to forces operating in Afghanistan, however DOD continues to face challenges in distributing materiel to forces operating in Afghanistan including: (1) a lack of adequate radio-frequency identification information to track all cargo movements; (2) no common operating picture for distribution data and integrated transportation systems; (3) complex customs clearance processes in Afghanistan and Pakistan that delay shipments; (4) limited information on incidents of pilferage and damage of cargo; and (5) ineffective tracking and management of cargo containers. To what extent has DOD assessed the impact of supply challenges on unit and equipment readiness? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. While DOD acknowledges that challenges remain in the distribution of supplies and equipment, these challenges have not led to any degradation with respect to supplies or equipment readiness. As GAO's report indicates, DOD has made great strides in improving distribution operations in Afghanistan. It is important to note that GAO's audit occurred during the recent surge of 30,000 additional U.S. forces in Afghanistan. Remarkably, U.S. Forces- Afghanistan was simultaneously able to increase ration stocks from 30 to more than 60 days and fuel stocks from 30 to 45 days of supply on hand. This unprecedented growth reflects a robust supply network, not hampered by delivery timelines. Further evidence of DOD's logistics resiliency is demonstrated by the fact that in spite of our main supply route (Pakistan road networks) being closed since November 26, 2011, our flexible system has allowed us to actually increase on-hand stocks and sustain our troops at a very high rate of readiness. DOD is striving to ensure that we meet these distribution challenges in the most timely, efficient, and effective manner in order to ensure the best possible support to all of our U.S. Armed Forces personnel. 5. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, to what extent has DOD improved its visibility over equipment and supplies in Afghanistan? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. DOD is engaged in ongoing efforts to improve visibility over equipment and supplies in Afghanistan. Steps we have taken in the last 18 months include: 1. Leveraging the use of Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags for tracking cargo and providing In Transit Visibility (ITV) and Asset Visibility (AV). RFID remains the backbone of our tracking capability. 2. Developed, refined, and fielded tools, such as the Integrated Data Environment/Global Transportation Network Convergence, Battle Command Sustainment Support System-Nodal Management, and the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) Logistics Common Operating Picture, to provide commanders down to the tactical level with a comprehensive ITV picture. 3. TRANSCOM is developing a contractual means to implement the use of commercial Active Tracking and Intrusion Detection (ATID) devices on Pakistan and Afghanistan road networks. The ATID devices will provide near-real-time tracking of containerized unit cargo and equipment thereby improving ITV and AV on containerized shipments transiting to and from Afghanistan via Pakistan. 4. Improved pre-deployment training on the proper methods for preparing and installing RFID tags. 5. Developed procedures to identify non-compliance with RFID policy/directives so that the responsible commanders can be notified and corrective action initiated. As a result of these steps, the visibility that we have over our equipment and supplies in Afghanistan has improved. 6. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, to what extent has DOD developed a common operating picture to improve its processes for tracking equipment and supplies in Afghanistan? Secretary Panetta. DOD has improved its capability to track equipment and supplies by developing, refining, and fielding tools such as CENTCOM's Logistics Common Operating Picture (LOGCOP), the BCS3-NM, and other automated information technologies (i.e., RFID/Active Tracking Intrusion Detection). These improved tools provide comprehensive ITV of critical DOD assets to commanders and staffs at all levels of command. General Dempsey. We have reemphasized to commanders at all levels the importance of maintaining visibility over equipment and supplies transiting Afghanistan. We have improved their capability to track equipment and supplies by developing, refining, and fielding tools such as CENTCOM's LOGCOP and the BCS3-NM. These improved tools provide a comprehensive ITV and AV picture to commanders and staffs at all levels of command. 7. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, to what extent is DOD anticipating throughput challenges in Pakistan that would limit DOD's ability to remove equipment from Afghanistan? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. Although loss of access to the Pakistan ground transportation routes has not adversely affected U.S. military operations in Afghanistan to date, sole reliance on the Northern Distribution Network (NDN) and air/multi-modal cargo operations would affect DOD's ability to efficiently drawdown equipment and significantly increase costs. Increased NDN usage would maximize its capacity and, although cargo would continue to move, transit times would increase. Reliance on the NDN and air/multi-modal movement also places U.S. Forces and objectives in Afghanistan at significant risk due to the uncertainties associated with the nations that U.S. cargo transits. Politically, any one or a combination of countries that comprises the NDN could halt or impede cargo movement for any reason. The physically fragile critical infrastructure and weather-dependent routing along the NDN can create chokepoints, causing congestion and disruptions and further limiting NDN capacity. Finally, delays in retrograde can create labor and space problems in terms of securing, storing, and maintaining equipment in Afghanistan that would otherwise move out of the theater. Multiple transit routes would provide DOD the most flexibility and save money and time. 8. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, to what extent has DOD developed alternatives to the Pakistan routes to be able to remove equipment from Afghanistan? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. DOD began to move U.S. cargo to Afghanistan on the NDN in 2009, with established routes utilizing existing commercial infrastructure through Russia and the Baltic, Caucasus, and Central Asian states. Current efforts to expand the NDN include obtaining permission and agreements as necessary to conduct reverse transit and movement of wheeled armored vehicles. The first proofs of principle executing retrograde transit began in early 2012. Additional multi-modal routes have been added to relieve pressure on the ground distribution system and further increase the velocity of cargo departing Afghanistan. 9. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what challenges remain in developing these alternatives? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. Cost and operational requirements to achieve retrograde velocity to support the projected 2014 drawdown timeline are key factors in considering the alternatives to the Pakistan ground transportation routes (i.e., NDN and air/multi- modal). The monthly overall transportation cost to distribute sustainment cargo, redeploy combat forces, and retrograde materiel is expected to increase by more than two-thirds due to the Pakistan ground transportation routes closure. In addition to higher costs, the NDN's operational drawbacks include longer transit times due to longer distances and lower cargo velocity due to transit restrictions. CHANGES IN EQUIPMENT RESET FUNDING 10. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, Congress has aggressively supported DOD's equipment reset funding requests throughout our operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. DOD has recently announced plans to reduce the Army and Marines Corps force structure by 100,000 troops. While the proposed budget does not specifically call for any offsetting reduction in equipment reset funding, it would seem logical that with a smaller force we might not have as large a requirement to reset equipment. To what extent is it important to maintain current funding level for the reset of equipment, despite the planned reduction of 100,000 Army and Marine Corps troops? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. The level of reset funding is set by aligning the required Modified Table of Organization and Equipment (MTOE) to the programmed force structure and by the type and condition of equipment returning from operations in a given year. As the Services reduce Active Duty end strength by 103,000 personnel, units will be identified for deactivation. The deactivated unit's MTOE equipment will be redistributed throughout the Services. This should reduce the number of items needed to be reset. However, if we fail to fully fund the reset required for the programmed force structure, we would face serious equipment shortfalls as current inventories are used up, expended, damaged, or worn out, and not replaced and repaired in a timely manner. These shortfalls would have a direct impact on unit readiness levels. Precise reset requirements are dependent on many variables, including equipment condition upon return; we cannot predict exactly what total reset costs will be at this point. However, we do know that the high operating tempo and harsh environments of Afghanistan and Iraq have a substantial deteriorating effect on equipment. 11. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, if DOD believes it necessary to retain the same level of reset funding, what is the rationale for this decision? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. Precise reset requirements are dependent on many variables, including equipment condition upon return; we cannot predict exactly what total reset costs will be at this point. However, we do know that the high operating tempo and harsh environments of Afghanistan and Iraq have a substantial deteriorating effect on equipment. The level of reset funding is set by aligning the required MTOE to the programmed force structure and by the type and condition of equipment returning from operations in a given year. As the Services reduce Active Duty end strength by 103,000 personnel, units will be identified for deactivation. The deactivated unit's MTOE equipment will be redistributed throughout the Services. This should reduce the number of items needed to be reset. However, if we fail to fully fund the reset required for the programmed force structure, we would face serious equipment shortfalls as current inventories are used up, expended, damaged, or worn out, and not replaced and repaired in a timely manner. These shortfalls would have a direct impact on unit readiness levels. 12. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, GAO has previously reported that the Military Services tend to build their reset budget requirements simply on the basis of the equipment it anticipates will actually return to the United States in the next year, rather prioritizing or targeting its reset requirements to address equipment shortages or other needs. To what extent do you believe opportunities exist to better focus the requirements for equipment reset, so that reset dollars go farther to meet equipment shortages, and better address our home stationed unit readiness rates? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. To better focus the requirement for equipment reset, DOD considered the MTOE required for the programmed force structure and the type and condition of equipment returning from operations in a given year. The Services also fully consider the future requirement for the equipment before DOD makes the reset funding request. Equipment reset is integrated with equipment modernization objectives, long-term support, and strategic investment plans. 13. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the administration has called for renewed attention on the Pacific region and the emerging threats there. To what extent do the reset requirements in this budget recognize and take into account this shift and perhaps the different numbers and types of equipment we should be resetting to improve our readiness to address conflicts in that region? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. DOD's budget request aligned the programmed force structure to the new Defense Strategic Guidance, which addresses the Pacific region focus. Reset requirements were then aligned to MTOE requirements for that force structure and the type and condition of equipment returning from operations in a given year, while accounting for a wide spectrum of potential future challenges, many of which are anticipated in the Pacific area of operations. 14. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, last year Congress gave the Army $20 million to begin the competition process for the Humvee capitalization effort known as the Medium Expanded Capacity Vehicle program. However, DOD's fiscal year 2013 budget request plans to terminate that program and commit to the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) program with the Marine Corps. Without pushing the merits of either program, to what extent do we need to lock into some strategy on our future equipment needs to effectively plan and economically budget to meet defense strategic equipping goals? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. Given the current fiscal environment, this was one of many situations where limited resources drove the need to prioritize areas of overlapping capabilities. The commitment to the JLTV was based on an analysis of alternatives and Joint Requirements Oversight Council (JROC) deliberation, which included consideration of the Medium Expanded Capacity Vehicle program and other modernization options. The JROC reviewed tactical wheeled vehicles from a holistic portfolio perspective to ensure that the correct programs were being pursued to support the national strategy. OVERALL READINESS 15. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, DOD's new Defense Strategic Guidance, released in January 2012, as well as the accompanying document, ``Defense Budget Priorities and Choices,'' make a number of statements which have implications for the readiness of the force. For example, the strategic guidance states that, ``it (the guidance) is intended as a blueprint for the Joint Force that will help guide decisions about force size and shape over subsequent program and budget cycles.'' It also notes that, ``DOD will manage the force in ways that protect its ability to regenerate capabilities that might be needed to meet future, unforeseen demands.'' What are the specific capabilities that DOD believes it will be able to regenerate? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. Since September 11, our forces have developed many specialized skills and capabilities-- language and culture, rule of law, security force assistance. DOD invested heavily in developing and expanding the supply of these skills and intends to make sure that those investments aren't inadvertently lost as we downsize. Also, the current and anticipated security environment indicates that the demand for this mission set will persist at some level, further emphasizing the need to ensure that ground force capabilities developed over the last decade for counterinsurgency, irregular warfare, counterterrorism, and security force assistance, and partnership engagement remain viable. The recent strategic review made clear that a smaller, ready, and agile force is preferable to a larger force that is poorly trained and ill-equipped. Therefore, we put a premium on retaining capabilities that provide flexibility across a range of missions and that require a long time to generate--in terms of training, equipping, et cetera. Additionally, other specialized capabilities, often associated with ground forces, stability operations, counterinsurgency (COIN), security force assistance (SFA), building partnership capacity (BPC), et cetera, and most gained over the last decade of conflict, must be carefully managed. We may reduce our capacity in skill sets where we expect a reduced demand and experience indicates retraining can occur quickly. These kinds of skills will need to be retained (the Services are analyzing), although at lower capacity, by keeping the right number of experienced people balanced between the Active component and Reserve component, and the right training curricula and infrastructure to rebuild these capabilities in a timely manner when needed. 16. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, given DOD's plans to reduce force structure and decisions to terminate certain weapons systems, platforms, et cetera, or delay procurement, how does it expect to be able to regenerate these capabilities and does it have specific plans that project how long it would take to achieve such regeneration? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. The Services are shaping their future force structure in ways that protect their ability to maintain and regenerate capabilities when needed to meet future, unforeseen demands, maintaining intellectual capital and rank structure that could be called upon to expand key elements of the force. For those critical skill sets, there will be a need to keep on hand some of the specialized infrastructure (people, facilities, training curricula), or seed corn, that will enable a new capability to be developed in a timely manner. Keeping experienced mid-grade officers and noncommissioned officers (NCO) will also be key. The seed corn and the experience will need to be properly balanced between the Active and the Reserve components. 17. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in particular, given the current state of personnel readiness, particularly in the Army, how does DOD propose that it will be able to regenerate Active component end strength and in what timeframes? Secretary Panetta. Regenerating Active component end strength is generally a function of the particular forces being requested and the time in which the forces are needed. As the Services draw down, each will analyze their missions--considering the likelihood of need for various capabilities and the time required to regenerate while taking into account industrial base and the Reserve component availability-- and make decisions accordingly. Specifically, it is vital that the Army maintain a strong cadre of noncommissioned and mid-grade officers to form the core of new formations when needed. We are also making investments in Army Special Operations Forces (SOF) to increase their capabilities and provide more options to the President. It will also require a strong, ready, and accessible Army National Guard and Army Reserve Forces. General Dempsey. The new Defense Strategic Guidance released in January 2012, notes that since we cannot predict how the strategic environment will evolve with absolute certainty, we need to manage the force in ways that protect its ability to regenerate capabilities should they be needed to meet future, unforeseen demands. The strategy also notes that we need to retain intellectual capital and rank structure that can be utilized to expand key elements of the force. The Army is examining strategies, policies, and investments that would posture the Army to slow down and reverse drawdowns of Army end strength and formations, and regenerate end strength over the course of a number of years in response to a future crisis. This will involve reexamining the mix of elements in the Active and Reserve components, maintaining a strong National Guard and Army Reserve, retaining a healthy cadre of experienced noncommissioned and midgrade officers, and preserving the health and viability of the Nation's defense industrial base. REBUILDING READINESS 18. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in the past, this committee, GAO, and others have called for DOD to develop a plan for rebuilding readiness that clearly identifies requirements, prioritizes these requirements, and ties them to resources. DOD has typically pointed to its budget request to reflect such a plan. Given the current readiness levels of each of the Services and plans to reduce the force structure and end strength, to what extent has DOD and the Services developed plans and established priorities for rebuilding readiness? Secretary Panetta. DOD is committed to helping the Services maintain adequate readiness to fight the current fight and respond to contingencies across a broad spectrum of conflict. The Services have worked to achieve a balance among their manpower, training, and equipment requirements given anticipated force structure changes, evolving military strategies, and emerging resource constraints. Those decisions on the future force will be reflected to the extent possible in the President's budget fiscal year 2014 submission. Achieving that balance will require ongoing evaluation over the next several budget cycles. We have addressed full-spectrum training requirements in the current budget. However, as we implement the new Strategic Defense Guidance, the processes we have established will closely monitor whether our current training strategies are sufficient to meet these requirements and adjust as necessary. For example, as we decrease pre- deployment training for the current fight, COIN, we will increase the use of time, ranges, and resources to train for full-spectrum operations. General Dempsey. OSD, the Joint Staff, and the Services continue working on programs focused on maintaining and rebuilding readiness. The Services are reviewing priorities in the context of the new Defense Strategic Guidance to ensure their resources are focused on the most critical readiness issues. Key aspects of this planning include resetting and reconstituting the force, refining force generation models, prioritizing resources, and determining capabilities gaps and associated mitigation options. A key component to the viability of these planning efforts is predictability in resourcing which is directly affected by the passage of appropriation legislation. 19. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, specifically, has DOD assessed the manning, equipping, and training priorities for a smaller force, and are these priorities reflected in its fiscal year 2013 funding request? Secretary Panetta. Yes. The budget decisions represented in the fiscal year 2013 funding request aligns our investments to the five major tenets of our strategy: Rebalance force structure and investments toward the Asia-Pacific region and the Middle East region while sustaining key alliances and partnerships in other regions. Plan and size forces to be able to defeat a major adversary in one theater while denying aggression elsewhere or imposing unacceptable costs Protect key investments in the technologically advance capabilities most needed for the future, including countering anti-access threats. No longer size Active Forces to conduct large and protracted stability operations while retaining the expertise of a decade of war. To the extent possible, structure major adjustments in a way that best allows for their reversal or for regeneration of capabilities in the future if circumstances change. There are many examples in the request, and listed in the Defense Budget Priorities and Choices document that accompanies the new Defense Strategic Guidance: maintaining current bomber and aircraft carriers fleet; retiring some of our oldest aircraft; protecting SOF and Unmanned Aerial Systems; COCOM Engagement and Exercises; Global Security Contingency Funding; protecting Reserve component readiness; sustaining critical segments of the industrial base; and funding for wounded warriors and transitioning veterans. General Dempsey. Yes. The new Defense Strategic Guidance set priorities for assessing our programs, force structure, and spending in the context of the current and forecast security environment. With those priorities in mind, the budget proposal strikes an appropriate and necessary balance between succeeding in today's conflicts and preparing for tomorrow's challenges. It accounts for real risks and real fiscal constraints, and begins the process of rebalancing and aligning our force structure and modernization efforts with our new strategy. 20. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the new Defense Strategic Guidance and related defense priorities call for rebalancing toward the Asia-Pacific region and puts heavy reliance on unmanned systems and SOF. Given that DOD plans to reduce the size of the Army and the Marine Corps, does the new strategy require more reliance on the Air Force and Navy? If so, how will this shift in focus be reflected in the fiscal year 2013 and future budget requests? Secretary Panetta. All Services will play integral roles in addressing future U.S. security challenges across all domains. The Army and Marine Corps grew in order to better meet the demands of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. As those conflicts wind down, some reductions in ground forces are appropriate. The nature of the future strategic environment will require even greater flexibility and agility in projecting power to accomplish the Nation's security objectives. Increasing operational focus on enhanced presence, power projection, freedom of action, and deterrence in the Pacific and Middle East, will require a range of mutually reinforcing joint activities in these regions to accomplish priority missions. To this end, over the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP), DOD will fund the next-generation bomber and aerial refueling aircraft. Additionally, the Navy will invest in a design for Virginia-class submarines that will allow them to carry significantly more cruise missiles and potentially provide an undersea conventional prompt strike capability. The future years budgets also invest resources in increasing stocks of our most capable cruise missiles, purchasing advanced maritime patrol aircraft, upgrading avionics and communications systems in our current bomber fleet, and enhancing capabilities in space, cyber, electronic warfare, missile defense, and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) systems that will be particularly well-suited to operations in the Middle East and Asia- Pacific regions. General Dempsey. The end strength for ground forces has grown over the past 10 years due to high operating tempo and extended contingency operations. As these operations draw down, we are adjusting the size and composition of the Joint Force to meet the anticipated threat in the new strategy. As we rebalance our global posture to emphasize the Asia-Pacific region and the Middle East, we are adjusting our operating constructs and the systems we employ. The new strategy requires increased emphasis on improving joint operational access capabilities as well as programs that address the proliferation of technology that threatens our access to global commons. Similarly, cyber threats have evolved faster than many could have imagined, so this budget request has an added focus on our military's cyber capabilities. The sourcing of these increasingly important capabilities spans all components. 21. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, more specifically, how will resources be divided among the Services? Secretary Panetta. DOD undertook a comprehensive review to develop a revised defense strategy and accompanying investment priorities over the coming decade. We made disciplined decisions based on our assessment of future global challenges, key missions that we must be ready to execute, and essential capabilities that we need to perform those missions. The development of the fiscal year 2013 budget was truly a strategy-driven process. The fiscal year 2013 DOD budget reflects tough decisions that will preserve the strongest military in the world. We made appropriate and selective cuts in overall capacity and force structure while sustaining or increasing investments in key capability areas, including SOF, ISR, long-range strike assets, as well as space and cyber systems, among others, to preserve a ready, agile, flexible, and capable force. Decisions on allocating resources are grounded in a careful assessment of operational needs of the Joint Force working as an integrated whole to ensure that we have the necessary capabilities to accomplish assigned missions. General Dempsey. This budget must be viewed in the context of a broader strategy to achieve the Joint Force of 2020 and represents an integrated, carefully devised package of decisions that should not be viewed as individual, isolated measures. Excluding OCO funding, there are no major shifts expected in resources among the Services--the emphasis will be on shifting the priority of the resources to capabilities such as cyber and anti- access/area denial, not on individual Services. 22. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, given current readiness of the Air Force and the Navy, has DOD assessed their ability to support this shift in focus? Secretary Panetta. Yes. In the future, our Services will generally be smaller, but each will develop future force structure that maintains the agility, flexibility, and readiness to engage a full range of contingencies and threats. And, as described in DOD's recently released strategic guidance, we are adjusting missions, posture, and organizational structure in order to adapt to ever evolving challenges and threats. One way in which the Air Force is posturing itself for the future in light of the strategic guidance is through pursuit of the Air-Sea Battle (ASB) concept in partnership with its sister Services. The ASB concept will guide the Services as they work together to maintain a continued advantage against the global proliferation of advanced military technologies and capabilities. ASB will leverage military and technological capabilities and is guiding us to develop a more permanent and better institutionalized relationship between the Military Departments that will ultimately shape our Service organizations, inform our operational concepts, and guide our materiel acquisitions. Providing the Nation offshore options to deter, influence, and win in an era of uncertainty is one of the primary contributions of the U.S. Navy. We keep the Fleet forward through a combination of rotational deployments, Forward Deployed Naval Forces, and forward stationing. We will rely on these basing constructs and strategic partnerships overseas that provide places for rest, repair, refuel, and resupply which enable forward presence without increases to the Fleet's size. General Dempsey. Yes. DOD continues to meet global demands while simultaneously conducting a thorough analysis of future force requirements to successfully implement the new strategy. The Services are updating their programs and metrics to evaluate current and future force structure requirements, modernization efforts, force generation capacity, and the resources required to maximize capabilities in support of the strategic priorities. DOD has established a forum that will consider any cross-cutting department management decisions to ensure DOD actions are substantive, synchronized, and coordinated across the defense enterprise. 23. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, does DOD plan to reassess its current operational plans and the types of scenarios that it will plan for in the future? If so, did DOD take into account the current readiness levels of the Services? Secretary Panetta. The President approves the Contingency Planning Guidance every 2 years, per statutory requirements. DOD frequently assesses its operational plans to ensure that they are realistic and that they cover the range of plausible challenges DOD may face. Those plans on which we place highest priority undergo a detailed review process to examine force availability and readiness against the combatant commanders' intent for phasing a specific contingency, the capability of DOD to project the required force, and competing demands across the globe. Both General Dempsey and I are involved deeply in this critical review process. General Dempsey. The Joint Staff is working with OSD to reassess the operational and contingency plans directed in the Joint Strategic Capabilities Plan. Our shift to rebalance priorities to the Asia- Pacific region may require the Services and combatant commands refine or develop plans to meet the new guidance. We are accounting for the Services' current and projected readiness as we review planning requirements and potential scenarios. 24. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what kind of risk assessment did DOD perform, including in terms of the current force's ability to support the shift in strategic direction? Secretary Panetta. The new Defense Strategic Guidance and the decisions in the fiscal years 2013 to 2017 FYDP were informed by risk considerations. Although there are inherent risks in any defense strategy, I believe the risks associated with the new Defense Strategic Guidance are manageable and acceptable. DOD took several steps to assess and mitigate risk. Preliminary insights from the 2012 Chairman's Risk Assessment (CRA) were instrumental in the development of DOD's strategic guidance. More broadly, during the strategic review, we addressed risk through wargaming, scenarios, trends analysis, and other processes. DOD's risk mitigation plan (submitted March 2012) underscores active mitigation efforts for the specific risks identified in the CRA. Spending reductions of the magnitude directed by the 2011 Budget Control Act (BCA) require difficult choices that result in additional risk in some areas. For example, by reducing overall end strength and aggregate force structure, we are accepting greater risk in undertaking future prolonged large-scale conventional or stability operations. But we will mitigate that risk by protecting our ability to regenerate capabilities as needed--the reversibility principle. This includes maintaining intellectual capital and rank structure that could be called on to expand key elements of the force, ensuring our Reserve component is well-equipped and well-trained, and preserving the health and viability of the Nation's defense industrial base. The Joint Force we are shaping, although smaller and leaner, will be agile, flexible, and ready to confront and defeat aggression anywhere in the world. It will have the capability to surge, mobilize, and regenerate forces and capabilities, enabling us to balance risk appropriately across the full range of military missions and to counter any future threats. General Dempsey. The 2011 CRA which provided the initial baseline assessment for the Comprehensive Defense Review (CDR) and the analysis for the 2012 CRA were executed in parallel. During that review, we conducted an assessment of the nature and magnitude of the strategic and military risks associated with successfully executing the missions called for under the current National Military Strategy as required by Title 10. This assessment leveraged both combatant command and Service perspectives, as well as independent Joint Staff analysis. Multiple risk perspectives provided an opportunity to balance the ongoing operational risks with the force's ability to address future challenges. Accordingly, the risk assessment provided a reasoned basis for our enduring emphasis on the broader Middle East and the increased strategic emphasis on Asia and the Pacific while helping us to focus additional effort on specific future capabilities like cyber and Joint Operational Access. 25. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what analysis did DOD do to support the notion of slowing the pace of building new ships and accelerating the retirement of some existing ships, including examining various cost-benefit alternatives? Secretary Panetta. The underlying analysis that informs the President's budget for fiscal year 2013 force structure was the strategic review conducted by DOD in the summer and fall of 2011. During this review, DOD evaluated, among other things, the Joint Forces' presence, surge, and shaping demands. For the Navy, the review identified the number of ships and aircraft required to sustain a forward presence capable of deterring potential adversaries and providing options for immediate crisis response while also ensuring sufficient capacity to execute combatant commanders' plans. The analysis used to inform the decision to accelerate the retirement of older cruisers and amphibious ships was predicated on the need to balance the cost to upgrade and repair less capable older ships with the cost to procure newer more capable ships. Over the past 10 years, the Fleet has deployed more frequently and sometimes for longer than planned. Consequently, maintenance and repair have sometimes been deferred. The life cycle costs of maintaining and repairing ships to achieve expected service life is normally less expensive than buying new ships. However, the average age of the Fleet is increasing due to the high annual procurement rates of the 1980s and 1990s. With an eye toward sustaining the Fleet's readiness and its capacity and capability to fight and win at sea, DOD decided to decommission some older, less capable ships in advance of their expected service life in order to invest in newer, more capable ships. General Dempsey. Specific resourcing decisions were made through a comprehensive strategic review that included detailed analysis by the Joint Staff, the Services, and OSD. Cost reductions from the early retirement of some ships will allow DOD to invest in new technology and ships that specifically address the threats targeted by the administration's new strategy. OPERATIONAL ENERGY 26. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in 2009, to address congressional concerns over DOD's heavy reliance on petroleum-based fuels to sustain operations on the battlefield in locations such as Afghanistan, GAO recommended that the combatant commanders and the Military Services establish requirements and guidelines for fuel demand management at forward-deployed locations within their areas of responsibility (AOR). Also, GAO recommended that DOD's operational energy strategy should establish incentives for commanders of forward deployed locations to promote fuel demand reduction at their locations, as well as identify a viable funding mechanism for pursuing fuel reduction initiatives. While we are aware that the combatant commands are documenting operational energy capability gaps, what is the status of combatant commands including CENTCOM formally incorporating requirements related to fuel demand management at forward-deployed locations into policy and guidance? Secretary Panetta. The combatant commands, including CENTCOM, are establishing requirements related to fuel demand management at forward- deployed locations into their policy and guidance. On June 7, 2011, Commander, International Security Assistance Forces (COMISAF) issued policy guidance directing commanders to take ownership of unit fuel demand and make energy-informed decisions in their operations. In October 2011, CENTCOM revised its Contingency Base Camp Development Standard Regulation 415-1 to integrate fuel demand management best practices. On December 11, 2011, the new COMISAF issued a policy memorandum that built upon existing guidance and stated that ``operational energy equates exactly to operational capability.'' This policy and guidance has produced tangible fuel demand management improvements while capturing critical lessons learned for application in other combatant commands. The June 2011 COMISAF requirements memorandum resulted in several power generation and distribution improvements across Afghanistan. For example, the Army's Logistical Contract Augmentation Program (LOGCAP) Program Management Office established an Energy Savings Initiative Policy to engage contractors in fuel demand reduction efforts. This effort has reduced the fuel requirement in Afghanistan by one million gallons per year. General Dempsey. The combatant commands, including CENTCOM, are establishing policy and guidance related to fuel demand management at forward-deployed locations. In June 2011, COMISAF, issued policy guidance directing commanders to take ownership of unit fuel demand and make energy-informed decisions in their operations. The June 2011 COMISAF requirements memorandum resulted in several power generation and distribution improvements across the Combined Joint Operating Area in Afghanistan. Also, in June 2011, the Army's LOGCAP Program Management Office released its Energy Savings Initiative Policy to engage contractors in fuel demand reduction efforts. 27. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what has DOD done to incentivize commanders and units that effectively reduce fuel consumption? Secretary Panetta. DOD's primary incentives to reduce fuel consumption are mitigating operational risk and enhancing combat capability. These fundamental incentives have led the Army and Marine Corps to achieve substantial reductions in fuel consumption by deployed units. DOD also oversees targeted incentive programs such as the Navy's Incentivized Energy Conservation Program, which recognizes naval vessels that reduce shipboard fuel consumption. The Navy also has a similar program for its aviation units called the Navy Air-Energy Conservation Program. In addition, the Air Force's Air Mobility Command aviation fuel efficiency incentives program provides high-performing Mobility Air Force wings financial awards for demonstrating the largest gains in energy efficiency. General Dempsey. Incentives in fuel consumption reduction are mitigating operational risk, thereby enhancing combat capability. DOD oversees targeted incentive programs such as the Navy's Incentivized Energy Conservation Program awards to naval vessels that best apply the program's training to reduce shipboard fuel consumption. The Navy has a similar program for its aviation units, the Navy Air-Energy Conservation Program. In addition, The Air Force's Air Mobility Command aviation fuel efficiency incentives program recognizes high-performing Mobility Air Force wings that demonstrate the largest gains in energy efficiency. 28. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, how does DOD plan to track fuel consumption at its forward-deployed locations? Secretary Panetta. The primary fuel management goal at forward- deployed locations is to ensure our forces have a reliable, steady supply of fuel. The Defense Logistics Agency-Energy tracks fuel supplies to forward operations for that purpose, taking into account the full range of incidents and factors, including seasonal and cultural, that can affect fuel availability. In addition, DOD is taking steps to improve data on fuel consumption at forward locations for the purposes of managing demand. The Defense Operational Energy Board, co-chaired by the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs and the Joint Staff Director for Logistics, has chartered a task group to develop a baseline of operational energy consumption to inform energy performance metrics. DOD will apply these metrics to measure and manage improvements in energy security for the warfighter. Each of the Military Services has taken steps to improve their data collection on fuel consumption in military operations as well. General Dempsey. The Defense Operational Energy Board, co-chaired by the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs and the Joint Staff Director for Logistics, chartered a task group to develop a baseline of operational energy consumption to inform energy performance metrics. DOD will apply these metrics to measure and manage improvements in energy security for the warfighter. DOD is working to employ new systems to automate data collection down to the tactical level. The Army is undergoing limited fielding of the Tactical Fuel Manager Defense (TFMD) program at several Afghanistan bases. TFMD tracks fuel consumption by the individual piece of equipment to improve fuel efficiency. 29. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012, this committee put into law that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shall designate a senior official to be responsible for operational energy plans and programs and be responsible for coordinating with the Assistant Secretary to implement initiatives. What progress has been made to date to establish this operational energy element within the Joint Staff, and how do you anticipate the Joint Staff will assist the Services on decreasing their reliance on fuel in current and future military operations? Secretary Panetta. In August 2011, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff designated the Director for Logistics (DJ-4) as Joint Staff point of contact for operational energy plans and programs. I also recently signed DOD's Operational Energy Strategy Implementation Plan, which established the Defense Operational Energy Board, co-chaired by the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Operational Energy Plans and Programs (ASD(OEPP)) and DJ-4. I chartered the board to reduce energy demand, expand supply, and balance requirements. The board provides a mechanism for reviewing, synchronizing, and supporting department-wide operational energy policies, plans, and programs. General Dempsey. In August 2011, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff designated the Director for Logistics, DJ-4, as Joint Staff point of contact for operational energy plans and programs. The Defense Operational Energy Board, co-chaired by the ASD(OEPP) and DJ-4, recently published their implementation plan to reduce energy demand, expand supply, and adapt the future force. The board provides a mechanism for reviewing, synchronizing, and supporting department-wide operational energy policies, plans, and programs. 30. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, with the additional leadership provided by the Joint Staff on operational energy efforts, what significant changes should we expect regarding how DOD plans and currently manages fuel demand and energy challenges in current and future war time scenarios? Secretary Panetta. DOD is following through on the changes to DOD force planning, requirements development, and acquisition processes Congress directed in the John Warner NDAA for Fiscal Year 2009. My expectation is that the work of the new Defense Operational Energy Board and DOD's Operational Strategy Implementation Plan will drive significant changes in how DOD plans and programs. We see operational energy, particularly demand reduction, becoming an increasingly important requirement for our forces because of the inherent vulnerability of fuel storage and logistics lines of communication and the growth of anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) capabilities to threaten them. The recent Joint Operational Access Concept states that DOD should ``decrease the logistical appetite of joint forces in all classes of supply, but especially in fossil fuels,'' to decrease the risk of these A2/AD threats. General Dempsey. DOD is following through on the changes to DOD force planning, requirements development, and acquisition processes directed by Congress in the 2009 NDAA. We believe operational energy demand reduction is becoming an increasingly important requirement for our forces due to the inherent vulnerability of fuel storage and logistics lines of communication, and the growth of A2/AD capabilities that threaten them. 31. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, have there been discussions on including specific energy efficiency strategies into strategic planning documents? Secretary Panetta. The recently signed Operational Energy Strategy Implementation Plan includes specific targets that direct changes to policy, doctrine, and combatant command activities. The Defense Operational Energy Board established a task group to review relevant DOD policies and develop a prioritized roadmap for including strategies to reduce operational demand, assure supply, and adapt the future force. As overarching strategic planning documents are reviewed, the board will provide a focal point for coordinating across the defense components. General Dempsey. The recently signed Operational Energy Strategy Implementation Plan includes specific targets that direct changes to policy, doctrine, and combatant command activities. The Defense Operational Energy Board established a task group to review relevant DOD policies and develop a prioritized roadmap for including strategies to reduce operational demand, assure supply, and adapt the future force. DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL BASE AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY 32. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, the new Defense Strategic Guidance stated that DOD will ``make every effort to maintain an adequate industrial base and our investment in science and technology (S&T).'' DOD's budget for S&T activities decreased from $12.3 billion in fiscal year 2012 to $11.9 billion in this year's request. While it appears S&T was spared draconian cuts in an attempt to make a commitment in our seed corn for the future, I'd like to better understand what explicit steps DOD is taking. Are there specific areas DOD is increasing its S&T investments in? Secretary Panetta. The fiscal year 2013 President's budget request for DOD S&T is $11.861 billion, which represents a modest decline of $386 million compared to the fiscal year 2012 President's budget request of $12.247 billion. This is a decline of 4.73 percent, when adjusted for inflation. Within this budget request, DOD decided to strongly support sustainment of Basic Research. While a decline of just under 5 percent in the S&T program does have an impact, it is manageable and reasonable when taken in the context of the overall DOD budget decline of 7.01 percent, adjusted for inflation. Specific areas where DOD is increasing its S&T investments include promising technologies to counter other nations' development of A2/AD capabilities, cyber operations, autonomy, human systems, electronic warfare, and counter weapons of mass destruction (WMD). S&T funds have also been aligned with the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and Office of Science and Technology policy priorities in advanced manufacturing, Army medical research, advanced robotics capabilities, advanced training technologies, and clean energy programs. Across the FYDP (fiscal year 2013 to fiscal year 2017), DOD has increased funding for high speed kinetic strike ($353 million), electronic warfare/cyber ($195 million), offensive cyber operations ($400 million) and cyber communications ($382 million). We believe this budget represents a reasonable reprioritization of the DOD S&T program. 33. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, are there areas that are facing reductions? Secretary Panetta. S&T funding declined 4.73 percent against inflation in the fiscal year 2013 President's budget request, with reductions occurring in all components. While the funding went down, we believe we are able to manage the risk. Specific technical areas with greater risk in the Army include: military engineering technology development for installations and field operations; applied topographical research for geospatial products; and weapons, munitions, missile, and rocket technology development for small precision munitions, such as mortars. Navy reductions were smaller than the other Military Departments and included technology development to improve logistics operations and sustainment. Within the Air Force, additional risk was accepted in the following areas: laser protection for anti- access standoff munitions and for aircraft pilot visors; novel navigation techniques for non-permissive environments; space precision navigation and timing; trusted systems for avionics devices; and advanced airborne networked and wide-band communications. Funding reductions also occurred in the following Defense-wide technology areas: National Defense Education Program; human, social, cultural, behavior modeling; Joint Experimentation; Joint Capability Technology Demonstrations; biomaterials technologies; machine intelligence; cognitive computing; command, control and communication systems; and advanced electronics. Although the reductions are numerous, most are below $20 million in magnitude, and funding for DOD's highest priority technology programs was protected. 34. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, is the DOD laboratory enterprise facing any potential base realignment and closure (BRAC) facility and workforce reductions? Secretary Panetta. BRAC enables DOD to reconfigure its infrastructure to match the demands of leaner, more flexible forces to accommodate our changing strategic emphasis. It is an important tool for DOD to use to make the tough fiscal choices necessitated by current budget challenges. If Congress does authorize the requested BRAC rounds, DOD will undertake the BRAC rounds in accordance with the statutory directive to consider all installations equally and make decisions based on 20-year force structure plan and statutory selection criteria, which give primary consideration to military value. In this context, DOD will examine all its missions and functions, including the laboratory enterprise. 35. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, what specifically is DOD doing to maintain an adequate industrial base? Secretary Panetta. DOD is taking responsible steps to ensure that the defense industry can support our warfighters' needs, now and in the future. DOD's primary mechanism for supporting the industrial base is through the programs that buy the defense industry's products. DOD chooses what to purchase based on warfighter requirements, but DOD can sometimes adjust program schedules or capitalize on synergies across programs to sustain critical industrial base capabilities. In exceptional cases, in certain niches, when current programs will not support the minimum sustaining rate that a niche supplier needs to provide a critical product or service, DOD also uses its industrial base investment resources like the Defense Production Act Title III authority and the Manufacturing Technology Program to ensure the continued health of the selected parts of the defense industry. These rare interventions should only occur in areas where DOD is highly likely to need a product in the future, where the product would be hard and expensive to obtain after a hiatus, and where affordable and innovative approaches are available to use to retain the producers in the interim. Additionally, DOD is doing a continuous, systematic, fact- based review of the defense industrial base, led by the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, called the Sector-by-Sector, Tier-by-Tier (S2T2) project. The S2T2 process, which is still ongoing, will identify critical and fragile niches in the industrial base that need additional monitoring. Combined, all of these efforts help to preserve the dynamic qualities of the industrial base that supply our warfighters with their technological edge. 36. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, what is the definition of adequate? Secretary Panetta. In the context of the defense industrial base, ``adequate'' means sufficient to provide the capabilities that our warfighters need, including maintaining our technological edge. An adequate industrial base has the capability to produce top-class equipment at reasonable cost today, and an adequate industrial base constantly adapts and invests in future capability. 37. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, according to DOD's statement of defense budget priorities, ``some domestic manufacturers have key skills in the design and manufacture of military systems that cannot be duplicated elsewhere in the economy or regenerated quickly. In support of the strategic guidance's tenet of reversibility, this budget plan sustains, where possible, these segments of the industrial base. However, the industrial base will require careful monitoring in the future.'' What defense-unique industrial skills in design and manufacture are at greatest risk of loss given the administration's budget? Secretary Panetta. The defense industrial base is very diverse, and some sectors and tiers of the industrial base are in stronger positions financially and technically than others. DOD cannot support all parts of the industrial base equally. Some areas that DOD currently views as ``at risk'' may appropriately decline as new technologies and the evolving strategic situation change our acquisition requirements. Even in the areas that DOD does need to sustain, we will take advantage of competition whenever we can, and we will invest in forward-leaning, pro-innovation efforts rather than preserving a static, backward- looking industrial base. DOD is expanding its systematic investigation to identify critical and fragile niches that require especially close monitoring, but we already know of some areas of emphasis. For example, production in the aircraft sector is fairly robust, but for the first time in decades DOD does not have an ongoing tactical aircraft design effort, so we are examining creative and efficient ways to stimulate design capabilities there. In the production realm, demand for some strategic systems and space launch is relatively low at present, but we know that it will return in the future, so we are closely monitoring and investing to sustain and enhance production capability in solid rocket motors. Over time, DOD will make responsible choices with our industrial base efforts, we will rarely single out specific products or suppliers for support, and we will continuously update and adapt the list of niches that we monitor to reflect the changing industrial and strategic environments. 38. Senator Levin. Secretary Panetta, which acquisition programs will be given the highest priority in ensuring reversibility? Secretary Panetta. DOD continues to apply ``reversibility'' to ensure DOD maintains the ability to regenerate, mobilize, and adapt our capabilities to ensure options for an uncertain future. The concept applies to our people, our Active-Reserve component balance, our posture, our partnerships, and our industrial base. As we establish priorities for acquisition programs, we aim to preserve select capabilities and critical skills within the industrial base to ensure we maintain skill sets vital to our ability to regenerate and adapt to changing threats. DOD's S2T2 initiative is assisting the Military Services in identifying critical industrial capabilities and skill sets that are at risk. Our decision calculus will be based upon a combination of many factors, including shocks or evolutions in the strategic, operational, economic, and technological spheres. ______ Questions Submitted to Senator Joseph I. Lieberman NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR DETERRENCE 39. Senator Lieberman. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, I am skeptical of DOD's apparent optimism that it will no longer be called on to conduct large-scale stability operations and worried about the consequences of declaring that we do not need to prepare for them. I believe it is important to note that DOD never actually sized the ground forces for large-scale stability operations, resulting in the severe dwell-to-boots-on-the-ground ratios that our soldiers have faced in recent years. It is in light of this skepticism that I am deeply concerned about the speed and depth of the reductions in ground force end strength envisioned in this budget request. Could you describe the specific risks you envision as a result of this decision and how you will mitigate them? Secretary Panetta. The new Defense Strategic Guidance states that our forces will retain the expertise, operational lessons learned, institutional knowledge, and specialized capabilities required for stability operations. In any defense strategy there are inherent risks; we believe the ones in this strategic guidance are manageable and acceptable. While U.S. forces will retain the capacity to undertake stability and counterinsurgency operations on a more limited scale, we are accepting greater risk in undertaking prolonged, large-scale stability operations. To mitigate that risk we will retain expertise, operational lessons learned, institutional knowledge, and specialized capabilities required for stability operations. Further, we will ensure that we have the ability to mobilize and regenerate forces should our assessments of the future scale of stability operations prove inaccurate. General Dempsey. You are correct that the Active component was not sized to conduct large-scale prolonged stability operations in the past; this will carry over to the future. If a large scale force is needed, risk will exist, as it has in the past, to the Active component until Reserve Forces can be recalled and trained to accomplish the mission. To help mitigate the risk, we will continue to rely on the battle-tested Reserve and Guard components of the Joint Force to provide the strategic and rotational depth should the Nation require us to execute a large-scale prolonged stability operation. We further mitigate operational risk to this mission by ensuring that we size the Active component to conduct limited counterinsurgency and other stability operations if required. Institutionally, we will mitigate risk by retaining the hard-won knowledge and experience in our force through retention of key leaders and emphasis on full-spectrum training. We mitigate risk with regard to future challenges by maintaining the right pace of reductions. If we go too fast, experience shows we will not do a good job of retaining key people and skills. Finally, the most comprehensive risk mitigation activity is a deliberate, comprehensive reset of the Joint Force. If we have fully trained and ready forces, and we do not exceed the current pace of reductions, I am confident that we can maintain military risk to that mission at an acceptable level. 40. Senator Lieberman. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, while the new Defense Strategic Guidance states that ground forces will not be sized for large-scale stability operations, it also lists ``stability and counterinsurgency operations'' as one of the ``primary missions'' of the U.S. military. Why won't the ground force be sized to conduct one of its ``primary missions?'' Secretary Panetta. Stability and counterinsurgency operations are primary missions of the U.S. Armed Forces. With the transition of security responsibility in Afghanistan to the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) in 2014, and with sufficient time for U.S. forces to reset, we can reduce some capacity in the force for prolonged, large- scale stability operations. U.S. forces will still retain expertise, operational lessons learned, institutional knowledge, and specialized capabilities required for stability operations, as well as the capacity to undertake stability and counterinsurgency operations on a more limited scale. Further, we will ensure that we have the ability to mobilize and regenerate forces if necessary. General Dempsey. It is important to note that stability operations and counterinsurgency will continue to be primary missions for the Joint Force. Mission sets are rarely binary--``high end'' or ``low end''. Missions are generally multi-faceted and tend to cross the full spectrum of operations. While we will increase emphasis on projecting power we are not forsaking our hard-won proficiencies in stability operations and counterinsurgency. The total ground force will be sized to conduct its primary mission, and we will rely on the battle tested Reserve and Guard components of the Joint Force to provide the strategic and rotational depth for all missions. 41. Senator Lieberman. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, how can the force be prepared to conduct this particular ``primary mission'' without the necessary manpower? Secretary Panetta. U.S. forces will retain sufficient capacity to undertake limited counterinsurgency and stability operations, if required. We will also seek to operate alongside coalition forces, whenever possible. Recognizing the uncertainties of the international environment, we will ensure that we have the ability to mobilize and regenerate forces if a larger-scale stability operation becomes necessary in the future. General Dempsey. The force will have the necessary manpower resident in the total Joint Force--Active and Reserve. 42. Senator Lieberman. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the new Defense Strategic Guidance and fiscal year 2013 budget request emphasize investments in SOF. However, SOF personnel are drawn from general-purpose forces that are slated for reductions, and SOF units rely heavily on general-purpose forces for support. As General Dempsey has previously stated, ``The SOF can only be special if there's a conventional force that allows them to conduct their operations and shape the environment.'' What are the risks to SOF that will result from decisions to shrink general-purpose forces so significantly? For example, the fiscal year 2013 budget request calls for SOF by 3,000 personnel, while cutting general-purpose ground force end strength. This reduction will impact the pool of personnel SOF can draw from. How can SOF grow without sacrificing standards with a smaller pool of manpower to draw from? Secretary Panetta. The remaining programmed growth for SOF is primarily focused on enhancing the organic combat support/combat service support capability in SOF units to provide increased capabilities in those areas, reducing the requirement for General Purpose Force (GPF) support to conduct forecasted operations. For long- duration and large-scale operations, GPF support is necessary, and the Department is currently undertaking a range of different analyses to identify GPF support requirements for SOF, such as logistics and intelligence personnel, and to mitigate potential risks to SOF operations associated with reductions in the GPF. There is no requirement or expectation to change SOF's exacting selection standards, even if the pool from which to draw those individuals is reduced. GPF reductions will mean that a greater percentage of the overall force is actually resident in the special operations community and that we manage our force carefully in order to maintain the requisite talent pool. We must continue efforts to sustain the SOF that we already have most effectively. The Service component's continued support of robust, SOF-focused retention initiatives will have a positive impact on the retention behavior and readiness of our SOF personnel. The Department is working closely with U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) to analyze force preservation challenges carefully. General Dempsey. Recently, the annual SOF manpower growth of 3-5 percent we have sustained has not diluted the force or outpaced the required training and support structure. SOCOM has done a magnificent job of adjusting their processes to maintain the quality of SOF operators and support personnel during this current era of SOF growth. As an example, Special Forces soldiers (officers and enlisted) are drawn from the ranks of the Army's GPF; with the exception of relatively small number of 18Xs recruited ``off the street.'' Any future growth of SF will occur during a general reduction in Army end strength. SF will be recruiting from a smaller pool of candidates, just as all SOCOM components do. SOCOM will not compromise standards in selecting and training future SOF operators. It is vital to maintain the high standards that have been adopted by SOCOM's components since we have asked and continue to ask SOF operators to conduct National Level Missions in strategically sensitive environments. the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Special Operations/Low-Intensity Conflict (ASD(SO/LIC)) will work with the Service Secretaries (through OSD) to ensure that Commander, SOCOMs Special Operations Forces manpower needs are represented. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Daniel K. Akaka SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY 43. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, DOD has taken a number of positive steps to address the very serious issue of sexual assault in our military. Over the holidays, you announced two new policies that provide greater support for the victims of sexual assault. What action is DOD taking to protect the men and women who so bravely protect us? Secretary Panetta. We are committed to doing everything we can to prevent sexual assault in the first place, provide all necessary care and services to victims of sexual assault, and ensure our commanders hold offenders appropriately accountable. Our new Expedited Transfer policy gives servicemembers who file unrestricted reports of a sexual assault an option to request quick transfer from their unit or installation to avoid harassment and separate them from the alleged perpetrator. For victims who made an unrestricted report we now require sexual assault documentation be retained for up to 50 years, making it easier for veterans to file a claim with the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). For victims who file restricted reports, certain documentation must be retained for 5 years. In addition, we believe we have developed a set of initiatives that fundamentally change the way DOD deals with this problem. Some of the steps that we will work with Congress in trying to include in our legislative package are: enhancing training programs for sexual assault prevention, including training for new military commanders in handling sexual assault matters; establishing a ``Special Victim's Unit'' capability within each of the Services; allowing Reserve and National Guard personnel who have been sexually assaulted while on Active Duty to remain in their Active Duty status in order to obtain treatment and support; requiring a record of the outcome of disciplinary and administrative proceedings be centrally retained; and requiring commanders to conduct annual organizational climate assessments. Further, in July 2011, we assigned a general officer to lead our Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office. Some of our other accomplishments are highlighted below: a. In April 2011, we activated the anonymous and confidential DOD Safe Helpline which is a sexual assault crisis support and resources service for adult servicemembers of the DOD community. Users may call, click or text anytime, from anywhere for assistance and/or referrals regarding a sexual assault. Our most recent data confirm that this is a valuable tool being used by our servicemembers to facilitate care and reporting. b. In January 2012, we reissued our DOD Directive that sets policy for the Department on Sexual Assault Prevention and Response (SAPR). The directive expanded support services to military spouses and adult military dependents, who will now be able to file confidential restricted reports and receive the services of a sexual assault response coordinator and victim advocate. c. This Directive also ensures DOD civilian employees and their family dependents 18 years of age and older when they are stationed or performing duties outside of the continental United States (OCONUS) are eligible for treatment in the military healthcare system at military installations or facilities OCONUS. Additionally, U.S. citizen DOD contractor personnel when they are authorized to accompany the Armed Forces in a contingency operation OCONUS and their U.S. citizen employees are also eligible for the same emergency care and the help of a sexual assault response coordinator and a victim advocate, during that emergency care. d. We have established the DOD Sexual Assault Advocate Certification Program which will require our sexual assault response coordinators and victim advocates obtain a credential aligned with national standards. This will ensure our victims of sexual assault receive the best care from a professional who can provide crucial assistance from the moment an assault is reported through case conclusion. e. Sexual assault cases are some of the toughest cases to investigate and to prosecute and we must increase the number of subject matter experts in this area. To that end I have increased funding for military criminal investigators and judge advocates to receive specialized training. We are also ensuring that eligible victims have the opportunity to receive expanded legal assistance early in the process of their case. f. We now have one integrated data system to track sexual assaults throughout the Department. The Defense Sexual Assault Incident Database (DSAID) achieved initial operational capability 30 March 2012, with the U.S. Air Force and the National Guard Bureau as the first users. By 31 August 2012, it will be fully operational with the integration of the rest of the military Services. This data base will ensure the transparency of sexual assault-related data and enhance support services g. Furthermore, because commanders are responsible to maintain good order and discipline of their people, as well as hold offenders appropriately accountable, I have directed an assessment of how we prepare and train our commanding officers and senior enlisted leaders to prevent and respond to sexual assault. h. We are collaborating with the Departments of Labor and Veterans Affairs to develop a ``continuum of care'' for sexual assault victims transitioning out of military service. By leveraging our DOD Safe Helpline infrastructure, the Department is able to present clear and easily accessible information on how to get help with counseling, benefits determinations, transitions and employment. By bridging the gap from DOD to the VA for sexual assault victims, we provide a continuum of care from Active Duty to veteran status. i. I recently introduced a new initiative that will elevate the disposition authority for the most serious sexual assault offenses to the ``Special Court Martial Convening Authority'' level. This reviewing officer is at the colonel or Navy captain level and will ensure these cases receive a high level of command attention. These initiatives are just a start. The Department is focused on building a safe environment for our men and women--I have no more important mission than to protect the people who protect this country. MENTAL HEALTH IN THE MILITARY 44. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, ending the stigma associated with seeking mental health care is critical for the well-being of our men and women who serve in our military. I applaud the Department's success in increasing the percentage of those who seek help when needed. As we go forward, what do you see as the remaining challenges to further reducing the stigma associated with seeking mental health care? Secretary Panetta. Emphasis on the well-being and fitness of the Force, and the prevention of adverse outcomes for servicemembers, is a national priority. Early intervention through self-referral for issues of concern to servicemembers, and the reduction of stigma that may be associated with self-identification of the need for assistance for mental health conditions, are of paramount importance to leadership throughout DOD. To address these aims, a policy was issued in August 2011, Command Notification Requirements to Dispel Stigma in Providing Mental Health Care to Servicemembers, which emphasizes that mental health providers are generally not required to notify Command when servicemembers voluntarily seek alcohol education or mental health services. This policy is part of the Department's effort to encourage servicemembers to come forward for evaluation and treatment before symptoms are serious enough to result in an alcohol related incident or in situations that might provoke command-directed action. All of these steps, and monitoring compliance with these measures at commands, should help reduce the stigma associated with seeking mental health care. The Deparment recognizes that more needs to be done to end that stigma, and we will continue to work toward that end. It is imperative for commanders to reinforce the value of help-seeking behavior within the military healthcare system. This can be done by fostering open discussion of mental health problems, making information regarding the means to access care readily available, and assisting servicemembers with their return to full duty following treatment. GUARD AND RESERVE 45. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, as this budget submission looks to re-shape the military to be more agile, quick, and flexible-- and incorporate the lessons learned in 10 years of war--I appreciate the attention you give the Guard and Reserve components. Our Guard and Reserve Forces have been a crucial asset to this Nation and have served us well. The budget proposes force structure adjustments for our Active and Reserve Forces. How do you think the changes will impact the readiness of the Total Force? Secretary Panetta. Our goal is to develop a versatile mix of scalable organizations operating on a rotational cycle, to provide a sustained flow of trained and ready forces for the full range of military operations and to hedge against unexpected contingencies at a sustainable tempo for our All-Volunteer Force. At the same time, ensuring access to the Reserve component which is essential to providing the operational depth and flexibility combatant commanders require. As we have stated, our forces will get smaller; this will emphasize the importance of the Reserve component as an operational reserve. The Reserve component will also become more important as a steward for specialized skill sets to maintain expertise critical to regenerating capabilities when greater capacity is required. 46. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, upon completing deployments and returning to the civilian world, many in the Guard and Reserve continue to experience problems which may not have been diagnosed upon their return. I understand that sometimes post traumatic stress and other invisible wounds of war do not surface right away. In your opinion, what can be done to better assess and treat these returning Guard and Reserve soldiers? Secretary Panetta. DOD has revised its deployment mental health assessment process to provide comprehensive person-to-person mental health assessments before deployment and at 6 months, 1 year, and 2 years after return from deployment. This process applies to Guard and Reserve soldiers who deploy, as well as to members of the Active component who deploy. These procedures comply with requirements in the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012 (Section 702). The three post-deployment mental health assessments are performed by licensed mental health professionals or designated personnel trained and certified in performance of the assessments. These mental health assessments include an analysis of self-reported responses to mental health questions regarding symptoms of depression, posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and alcohol misuse, detailed follow-up of positive responses regarding previous mental health diagnoses and medication use, and exploration of other reported emotional, life stress, or mental health concerns. During these assessment sessions, providers weigh risks for suicide or violence, offer education on relevant mental health topics, administer brief interventions, and, as indicated, make recommendations for follow-up assessment and care. After returning home from deployment, help for any mental health issues, including depression and PTSD, is available through the Military Health System for Active Duty and retired servicemembers, or through the VA for all veterans. Active Duty, National Guard, and Reserve servicemembers who separate and who served in support of a contingency operation are eligible for TRICARE's Transitional Assistance Management Program (TAMP), which provides health benefits for 180 days to assist servicemembers and their families with the transition to civilian life. For those who may be separating from the Service due to medical disability, VA Federal Recovery Coordinators and Service Recovery Care Coordinators assist with servicemember transition from DOD to VA care, treatment, and rehabilitation. The DOD inTransition program is a free, voluntary, and confidential coaching and assistance program that also provides a bridge of support for servicemembers while they are transitioning between healthcare systems or providers. Each Service has a comprehensive program to address the reintegration needs of wounded, ill, and injured servicemembers, including the Army Wounded Warrior Program, the Marine Wounded Warrior Regiment, Navy's Safe Harbor Program, and the Air Force Wounded Warrior Program. Across DOD, the Military Family Life Consultants address family distress by providing education and information on family dynamics, parent education, available support services, and the effects of stress and positive coping mechanisms. Military OneSource has counselors standing ready 24/7 by phone and email and are available for face-to-face counseling. The DOD Yellow Ribbon Reintegration Program was established to address the needs of National Guard and Reserve servicemembers and their families by facilitating access to support and reintegration services. The Defense Centers of Excellence for Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury (DCoE) has a number of education and outreach programs, including DCoE's Outreach Center, ``24/7 Help,'' which provides information and resources on psychological health and traumatic brain injury, and the Afterdeployment.org Web site, which assists servicemembers and their families in managing post-deployment challenges. The Military Services have developed training programs to mitigate the effects of combat-related stress. The Army implemented the Comprehensive Soldier Fitness Program Army-wide; the Air Force uses the Landing Gear program; the Navy has an Operational Stress Control program; and the Marine Corps uses a program called Operational Stress Control and Readiness. Each of these programs seeks to prepare servicemembers to better cope with combat and deployment stress before, during, and after deployment. On a more holistic level, the Office of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has promoted the Total Force Fitness model to address the need for a synchronized, DOD-wide approach to strengthen resilience and maintain optimal military force readiness. This model fosters leadership interventions throughout DOD that strengthen the comprehensive health of servicemembers across many domains: Behavioral, Social, Physical, Environmental, Medical, Spiritual, Nutritional, and Psychological. FEMALES IN THE MILITARY 47. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, last week DOD announced that it would open about 14,000 combat-related positions to female troops. You also recently announced the President's nomination of the first female four-star general for the Air Force. These are both positive steps. Can you give me a sense of where you think DOD is with respect to diversity initiatives--such as fostering a diverse base of officers from which to select our future senior leaders? Secretary Panetta. DOD agrees the future military must be comprised not only of men and women of different racial and ethnic backgrounds, but also of individuals with a wide range of talents, experience, and skill sets. Because the military operates as a closed personnel system, the demographic diversity of accessions and those retained over the course of a career directly influences the potential demographic diversity of future senior leaders; on average it takes 25 years to ``grow'' a General or Flag Officer. As such, given a limited pool of eligible candidates, outreach, recruiting, and retention strategies play a critical role in attracting and retaining qualified personnel to military service. DOD has committed a significant amount of resources to expand outreach efforts with affinity groups to strengthen the qualifications of potential candidates. For example, DOD hosts a number of training events particularly in the area of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) to strengthen shortcomings in an area critical to national security. Currently, a DOD pilot program with an East Los Angeles school-age population of roughly 20,000 includes programs to train parents and influencers on how to support STEM education in the home. The program begins in Kindergarten and ties into the California university system. The program is in its fourth year and surveys find that 100 percent of program participants have been positively influenced by the program. Additionally, DOD supports the STARBASE Program, a youth outreach program designed to increase student interest in STEM that will help build and enlarge the talent pool of potential military and civilian personnel needed by DOD. The DOD STARBASE Program operates at 60 locations in 34 States, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. Military Commanders (Active, Guard, and Reserve) have collaborated with 1,086 schools from 387 school districts, serving approximately 64,000 students. Since 1993 more than 609,000 students have participated in the STARBASE Program. Cooperation and support of affinity groups also positively enhances diversity ``in-reach'' efforts to enhance career development, mentoring, and networking resources for those currently in uniform. DOD continues to work with components' leadership to address integration of talent management programs process and practices, mentorship, and succession planning to optimize the ability of all servicemembers to make informed career choices from accession to retirement. NORTH KOREA 48. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, in 2011, the United States and North Korea agreed to restart efforts to search for and repatriate the remains of U.S. soldiers missing from the Korean War. Please provide an update on this program. Secretary Panetta. The United States and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) signed an arrangement on October 20, 2011, to resume joint remains recovery operations in the DPRK. The U.S. Government has worked diligently to comply with the arrangement and as of this hearing date we are on schedule to resume remains recovery operations in April. DON'T ASK DON'T TELL POLICY 49. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, on December 22, 2010, President Obama signed the law which repealed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy. After required certifications were made, the repeal occurred on September 20, 2011. Have you encountered any difficulties in implementing the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell? Secretary Panetta. The Services and combatant commands continue to provide monthly progress reports on the implementation of repeal. To date, and based on these reports, repeal is going smoothly and we have had no significant repeal-related issues. We attribute this success to our strong and dedicated leadership, comprehensive pre-repeal training programs, continued close monitoring and enforcement of standards by our military leaders, and servicemembers' adherence to core values that include professionalism, dignity, and respect for all. 50. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, have any new issues or concerns surfaced since the repeal went into effect? Secretary Panetta. No. DOD continues to closely monitor implementation across the Services and combatant commands. Through our monthly progress reports, we have found that the most common concern from the field is about benefits-specifically, whether or not benefits will be extended to same-sex partners. With regard to benefits, DOD is engaged in a comprehensive review of the possibility of extending eligibility for additional benefits, when legally permitted, to same-sex partners of military members. READINESS CHALLENGES 51. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, some defense experts believe that, with the withdrawal from Iraq last year and considering our plans to leave Afghanistan by 2014, the U.S. military will enter a ``post- counterinsurgency'' era. This view was reinforced by the administration's January 26 announcement of a strategic shift to the Asia-Pacific and Middle East region. Can you describe what readiness challenges U.S. forces will face as we transition to a new era where engagement and ensuring freedom of access will likely be the strategic norm? Secretary Panetta. Our future environment will present an increasingly complex set of challenges and opportunities to include: Transition in Afghanistan Violent extremism (destabilizing threats) Building partner security capacity Addressing challenges to U.S. power projection and operational access For the last decade, the United States has been involved in extensive global operations to secure important national interests. The focus of these operations has overwhelmingly been counterinsurgency and stability operations, and we have focused on preparing ground combat forces for those operations, which means there has been less focus on training for conventional warfare. As these operations draw down and returning ground forces reset, our strategic approach will transition toward an increased emphasis on meeting future challenges. As it does, our forces will remain ready and able to conduct limited counterinsurgency and other stability operations. We are rebalancing training and equipment and maintaining a broad portfolio of capabilities that will ensure versatility to deal with this environment, to include increasing capacity in language, regional expertise, and associated culture. During this transition, our people and equipment, having endured maximum stress for extended periods, must be reset and sustained. To deter and defeat aggression, we must provide ready forces for current operations as well as prepare for unforeseen crisis and contingency response. FOREIGN LANGUAGE SKILLS 52. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, in July 2009, DOD testified before the Senate Subcommittee on Oversight of Government Management, the Federal Workforce, and the District of Columbia on its foreign language capabilities. Concerning foreign languages, DOD testified that it ``is a priority for the Department of Defense.'' Please discuss how the DOD's fiscal year 2013 budget request ensures that the men and women in uniform and civilian workforce have the language skills necessary to meet DOD's mission. Secretary Panetta. DOD will continue to focus on expanding, improving, and strengthening language efforts that began in 2005 as a result of the Defense Language Transformation Roadmap. The current budget request ensures that the Defense Language Institute Foreign Language Center provides the men and women in uniform and the civilian workforce the language skills necessary to meet DOD's mission for the 21st century. Our budget request will continue to support our Language Training Detachments located across the United States for GPF and Special Operations Forces training. We plan to continue funding initiatives such as the Afghanistan Pakistan Hands Program, which create a cadre of professionals with language and regional knowledge equipped to work in regions of U.S. engagement. My staff is working to improve and diversify the career paths of our language professionals and to improve retention and overall linguistic capabilities. At the same time, we are working to improve the process of identifying language requirements to better meet the needs of the Services and combatant commands. On the national level, we will continue to support the ROTC Project GO Programs and the National Security Education Program's Boren and Language Flagship programs, which collectively improve the school and university pipeline for language-enabled civilian and military personnel. 53. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, the National Language Service Corps is a pilot program that provides surge language capacity to DOD and the Federal Government during times of emergency and national need. Please explain how the National Language Service Corps contributes to the DOD's mission and provide specific examples. Secretary Panetta. The National Language Service Corps contributes to DOD's mission by bringing together 3,300 members who collectively speak more than 240 foreign languages in addition to professional level English proficiency. These patriotic individuals can be activated to meet short-term emergency and surge requirements. The National Language Service Corps complements the DOD's organic and contracted capabilities by providing a full range of language services to include interpretation, translation, participation as subject matter experts in standard setting for language assessment tools, and delivery of culturally-attuned language training. The members have supported DOD operational missions off the Coast of Senegal, critical exercises and training events in Indonesia, Thailand, Jordan and Germany, and have filled gaps in language support for the intelligence and law enforcement communities. We support the National Language Service Corps and consider it a key component of our strategy to mitigate uncertainty in current and future national security language needs. 54. Senator Akaka. Secretary Panetta, what key lessons has DOD learned from implementing the National Language Service Corps pilot program? Secretary Panetta. DOD learned through this proof of concept (PoC) that there is a great deal of interest and need across the Federal Government for short-term foreign language skills that the National Language Service Corps (NLSC) provides. NLSC requests have more than doubled in the last few months and feedback on performance is excellent. We realize there is a great deal of willingness among the large number of U.S. citizens who speak more than one language to offer their skills in service to our Nation in times of need. Without a doubt, the vast majority of individuals who participate in the NLSC are professionals and offer more to the Nation than just their high level of language capability. The program is win-win. We also know now that proactively engaging in cross-agency partnerships through the NLSC can lead to increased collaboration and efficiencies. For example, the Defense Language and National Security Education Office has leveraged DOD efforts through a relationship with the Department of Justice and have shared best practices at a recent interagency working group. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Claire McCaskill NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVES 55. Senator McCaskill. General Dempsey, the National Guard and Reserves have played a major role in combat operations over the past decade. National Guard and Reserve Forces have served faithfully in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and there is no doubt that our Nation would not have been successful without the contribution of these citizen servicemembers. National Guard and Reserve servicemembers are unique in that they hold full-time civilian positions and jobs in communities across America outside of their military service. This makes the National Guard and Reserves an even more precious resource as our Nation transitions to a new defense strategy. I have concerns on how this transition will affect our National Guard and Reserve servicemembers and families. The new Defense Strategic Guidance calls for a drawdown of Active Duty servicemembers, which will put more emphasis on the readiness of the National Guard and Reserves. With a smaller Active Duty military, it is imperative that National Guard and Reserve Forces are well-maintained, trained, and adequately equipped to meet the Nation's challenges as they arise. In our current security environment, we must ensure that the National Guard and Reserves are postured for success on and off the battlefield. Over the past decade, servicemembers serving in the Guard and Reserves have become accustomed to deploying in support of our Nation. As these deployments become less frequent due to the drawdown in Afghanistan, how does DOD plan to retain the institutional and operational knowledge the Guard and Reserves have gained over the past decade? General Dempsey. As we implement the new Defense Strategic Guidance, we must avoid a hollow force and maintain the strongest military in the world. Although smaller and leaner, our military will remain flexible and ready to deploy quickly--an integral part of this agility rests on our ability to mobilize the National Guard and Reserves expeditiously. A properly trained and equipped Reserve component makes for a strong, capable, and ready National Guard and Reserves which is a prudent objective, both operationally and fiscally. Because of the investments made and operational experiences gained over the last decade, the Reserve component is well-postured to contribute valued capacity and capabilities to the Joint Force in the short-term. To sustain this over the long-term, we will continue rotational deployments, more extensively integrate Active and Reserve Forces, and enhance innovative readiness training. Each Service continues to reassess the rotational deployment plan of its unit formations, including National Guard and Reserves, to optimize total force readiness while being responsive to the combatant commanders' needs. This ongoing evaluation seeks to find the right balance to ensure readiness without overburdening either component against the anticipated demand signal. Keeping the Reserve component ready through periodic, predictable deployments adds value to the Total Force, distributes stress more evenly on all components, and provides force structure options in a resource constrained environment. The Services plan to retain appropriate levels of Reserve component readiness through continued Active and Reserve component integration of personnel and equipment. This Total Force integration will provide the most efficient training opportunities to all personnel, allow for shared use of resources, and maximize operational benefit and mission capability. We are reviewing Total Force training structure and strategies looking for ways to improve efficiencies and effectiveness. As deployment opportunities decline, our reliance on training must necessarily substitute to a greater degree for actual operational experience. We will continue to explore innovative ways to leverage technology and our human component as we build and maintain the readiness of the current and future Total Force. 56. Senator McCaskill. General Dempsey, as we wind down combat operations in Afghanistan, the Guard and Reserves will transition to a posture that involves fewer combat operations overseas. As we plan to maintain the strongest force possible in the coming years, has DOD identified any problems in future recruitment, as many young men and women were drawn to service in a Guard and Reserve Force that was highly likely to deploy because of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan? If so, how does DOD plan to address these recruitment challenges? General Dempsey. In the short-term (3 to 5 years), we expect to continue to recruit and train some of our Nation's most talented men and women in numbers sufficient to ensure combat capability. For the past several years, all of our Military Services met, or exceeded, their Reserve component recruiting and retention goals with the exception of the Air National Guard. Today's reservists and guardsmen expect to deploy and be more operationally engaged than their counterparts of the 1990s. While the level of combat and other deployment operations is reduced from a few years ago, opportunities for Reserve component mobilization still exist. These opportunities will be on a more periodic and predictable schedule, which is more conducive to the needs of the Reserve component servicemembers, their families, and their employers. Programs such as the Post-9/11 GI Bill, the reduced retirement program, and stressed career field bonuses are a few examples of how we will be able to continue to maintain a strong and effective Reserve component. In the long-term (5 years and beyond), we may face challenges depending on the state of the economy and changing social norms. Although we seek only the best to join the Profession of Arms, fewer than one in four 17- to 24-year-olds are fully qualified for service, and we must attract over 15 percent of those. Today, only about a third of that percentage show a propensity to join, and that number may decrease as our Nation's economic conditions improve. Additionally, although the Reserve and National Guard bring in accessions directly from the Active component, not enough Active Duty personnel may be available. This will be due to several factors, such as reduced military end strength and the requirement that separation bonuses be repaid upon entry into the Reserve component. As it has in the past, DOD will need to count on congressional support to ensure our military remains the best the world has known. F-35 PROGRAM 57. Senator McCaskill. Secretary Panetta, for the third year in a row, DOD has been forced to delay plans for full production of the F- 35. Deputy Secretary of Defense Ash Carter has stated that the delay is not a budget issue, but rather a fundamental problem with the F-35 program. Frank Kendall, Acting Assistant Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics, has stated: ``putting the F-35 into production years before the first test flight was acquisition malpractice.'' While much attention has been given to the problems plaguing the Marine Corps F-35B variant, the F-35A and F-35C both suffer from significant design issues. For example, the F-35C has encountered a problem with its tailhook, a real and significant problem for an aircraft designed to land on an aircraft carrier deck. Last year, the Navy requested additional Super Hornets in order to mitigate delays in the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) procurement schedule. Fiscal year 2013 marks the third delay in 3 years for the JSF program, but, under current plans, the F/A-18 production line will end in fiscal year 2014, well before the F-35C is projected to be combat ready. Ending a viable aircraft production line before the JSF program will be able to meet full combat capability inevitably assumes a level of risk to the Navy and to the U.S. military. Does the DOD find that risk acceptable to our warfighters and our national security capabilities? Secretary Panetta. DOD remains committed to the F-35 program. The Department of the Navy does not currently plan to keep the F/A-18 production line open beyond the final procurement of EA-18G aircraft in fiscal year 2013 and F/A-18E/F in fiscal year 2014; however, if further delays or significant development or design issues are discovered beyond the current F-35 program, as presented in the fiscal year 2013 President's budget request, then DOD may consider all options, including procuring additional F/A-18 Super Hornets. Currently, the F/ A-18 production line shutdown begins with the key long-lead suppliers this summer. Regarding EA-18G unique parts, the final orders to support the final fiscal year 2013 procurement are also being placed this summer. From a force structure perspective, the Navy projects a manageable strike fighter shortfall of less than 65 aircraft in the 2020s. DOD finds this risk acceptable to the Navy, and we are confident that we will have sufficient naval strike fighter capability to meet our national security requirements. 58. Senator McCaskill. Secretary Panetta, does DOD have plans to mitigate that risk? Secretary Panetta. Yes, DOD is mitigating that risk through a number of means. The Navy is conducting a Service Life Assessment Program of the F/A-18E/F to define the necessary inspection and modifications required to extend the currently defined life limits of the aircraft. We have mitigated risk to the F-35 program by ensuring that the completion of the development program is adequately resourced and supported by realistic planning factors. The production ramp has been reduced to mitigate cost risk due to concurrency. This allows us to buy fewer aircraft in the near term that will require modifications while the design matures through continued testing and discovery. We believe that this risk is acceptable as we strive to shape a joint force for the future that is smaller and leaner but will be agile, flexible, ready, and technologically advanced. 59. Senator McCaskill. Secretary Panetta, given the uncertainty that continues to plague the F-35 program, is DOD or the Navy considering options for keeping the F/A-18 line running beyond fiscal year 2014? Secretary Panetta. DOD plans to procure the final F/A-18E/F in fiscal year 2014. When those aircraft deliver in fiscal year 2016, DOD will have completed the program of record of 565 F/A-18E/F aircraft. However, if further delays or significant development or design issues are discovered beyond the current F-35 program as presented in the fiscal year 2013 President's budget request, DOD may consider all options, including procuring additional F/A-18 Super Hornets. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Begich BASE REALIGNMENT AND CLOSURE ISSUES 60. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the Air Force is proposing to relocate the F-16 Fighter Squadron at Eielson Air Force Base (AFB) to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in fiscal year 2013 to achieve savings in base support costs. The F-16 squadron is the only Active Duty mission at Eielson. The Air Force intends to put Eielson in warm status by 2015. This proposal is the same one put forth by the Air Force in BRAC 2005 and it was rejected by the BRAC Commission due to overestimated cost savings and underestimation of the military value of Eielson AFB. Last week, the Alaska delegation wrote you a letter expressing concern about the proposal, mainly the fact this proposal is outside of the formal BRAC Commission process and may be in violation of statute as a significant number of military and civilian personnel will be impacted. What is your understanding of this proposal? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. The Air Force must achieve spending reductions in the current budget cycle regardless of whether additional BRAC rounds may ultimately be authorized. The Air Force is therefore making adjustments to its force structure, and the transfer of the Aggressor squadron from Eielson AFB to Joint Base Elmendorf- Richardson is among them. The transfer in fiscal year 2013 garners manpower and efficiency savings by consolidating operations/maintenance supervision overhead and base support functions. The Air Force estimates resultant cost savings to be $3.5 million for fiscal year 2013 and $169.5 million across the FYDP. These estimates are based on eliminating approximately 640 manpower authorizations that Headquarters-Pacific Air Forces determined were no longer needed at Eielson once the Aggressor squadron relocates. Sufficient capability, however, will remain in place at Eielson to support the remaining Air Refueling Wing and joint partners at Fort Wainwright. Additionally, the base will continue to provide critical training through the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex. DOD has the authority to close and realign military installations outside of a traditional BRAC round, provided that action does not trigger the thresholds established in 10 U.S.C. 2687. Section 2687 specifies that DOD cannot take any action to effect or implement the closure of any military installation at which at least 300 civilian personnel are authorized to be employed, or the realignment of any such installation involving a reduction of more than 1,000 or by more than 50 percent of the number of civilian personnel, whichever is less, unless and until certain requirements set out in the statute are met. The actions at Eielson do not trigger the thresholds specified in section 2687. Specifically, Eielson AFB is not being closed, and the realignment will not relocate either 1,000 or 50 percent of the permanent DOD civilian positions at Eielson to Elmendorf AFB. Were the triggering thresholds of the statute to be exceeded, the Air Force would have to report on the proposal, provide certain specified analyses, and wait a prescribed period of time before implementing the action. Finally, if Congress does authorize the requested BRAC rounds, the Air Force's currently proposed force structure changes do not presuppose what will happen to a particular installation during the BRAC analysis. DOD will consider all installations equally with military value as the primary consideration. 61. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, both of you have repeatedly stated the formal BRAC Commission process is the most objective, thorough, and non-partisan route to pursue with respect to real property management. In fact, during the 2005 BRAC round, below BRAC threshold actions were included in the formal process in recognition of the fact a comprehensive approach allowed DOD to make better use of real property and make better decisions. Would you agree with this statement? If so, do you support the Air Force's proposal? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. The statutory BRAC process is a fair, objective, and proven process for closing and realigning bases in the United States. I agree that ``below BRAC threshold actions were included in the formal process in recognition of the fact a comprehensive approach allowed DOD to make better use of real property and make better decisions.'' But strategic and fiscal imperatives leave DOD no alternative but to seek efficiencies at military bases here in the United States. While the President has asked Congress for BRAC authority, it is not clear how Congress will act on that request, and we cannot afford to delay in achieving efficiencies. DOD must use every tool at its disposal to address strategic and fiscal imperatives-- including acting within its existing authorities pending congressional action on BRAC authorization. The Secretary of Defense has the authority to close and realign military installations outside of a traditional BRAC round, provided that action does not trigger the thresholds established in section 2687 of title 10, U.S.C. Section 2687 specifies that DOD cannot take any action to effect or implement the closure of any military installation at which at least 300 civilian personnel are authorized to be employed, or the realignment of any such installation involving a reduction of more than 1,000 or by more than 50 percent of the number of civilian personnel, whichever is less, unless and until satisfying certain study and congressional reporting requirements and waiting the specified period of time. The Air Force must achieve spending reductions in the current budget cycle regardless of whether additional BRAC rounds may ultimately be authorized. The Air Force is therefore making adjustments to its force structure. It is important to note, however, that if Congress does authorize the requested BRAC rounds, the Air Force's currently proposed force structure changes do not pre-suppose what will happen to a particular installation during the BRAC analysis. DOD will consider all installations equally, with military value as the primary consideration. 62. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, how is the proposal in line with your goal of using the formal BRAC Commission process? Secretary Panetta. DOD's force structure changes drove both this proposal and the request for BRAC authorization. They are consistent. However, this proposal does not presuppose what will happen to a particular installation during the BRAC analysis. DOD will consider all installations equally with military value as the primary consideration. General Dempsey. DOD's force structure changes are one of the reasons why the President is requesting BRAC authorization. Simply stated, the cuts in force structure that we are implementing must be accompanied by cuts in supporting infrastructure, including military bases. Absent a process for closing and realigning bases, DOD will be locked in a status quo configuration that does not match its evolving force structure, doctrine, and technology. Moreover, given the expense of our installation infrastructure, if we retain bases that are excess to strategic and mission requirements, we will be forced to cut spending on forces, training, and modernization. That said, recently announced force structure changes do not pre-suppose what will happen to a particular installation during the BRAC analysis. DOD will consider all installations equally with military value as the primary consideration. 63. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, was the Air Force's proposal to realign the F-16 squadron at Eielson reviewed by DOD Legal Counsel to ensure it is in compliance with BRAC law in title 10, U.S.C., section 2687, which mandates a notice and hold period when closing or realigning installations? Secretary Panetta. The Air Force's proposal was reviewed by the Air Force Office of the General Counsel, in consultation with the DOD Office of the General Counsel. General Dempsey. The Air Force's proposal was reviewed by the Air Force Office of the General Counsel in consultation with the DOD Office of the General Counsel. DOD has the authority to close and realign military installations outside of a traditional BRAC round provided that action does not trigger the thresholds established in title 10 U.S.C., section 2687. Section 2687 specifies that DOD cannot take any action to effect or implement the closure of any military installation at which at least 300 civilian personnel are authorized to be employed, or the realignment of any such installation involving a reduction of more than 1,000, or by more than 50 percent of the number of civilian personnel, whichever is less, unless and until certain requirements set out in the statute are met. The actions at Eielson AFB do not trigger the thresholds specified in section 2687. Specifically, Eielson AFB is not being closed, and the realignment will not relocate either 1,000 or 50 percent of the permanent DOD civilian positions at Eielson to Elmendorf AFB. Were the triggering thresholds of the statute to be exceeded, the Air Force would have to report on the proposal, provide certain specified analyses, and wait a prescribed period of time before implementing the action. 64. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, last week, Admiral Locklear, the U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM) commander nominee, recognized Alaska's strategic location, calling the State and its installations critical and significant to his mission. Yet, the Air Force is proposing to place one of the most strategically located bases in warm status. How is placing Eielson in warm status conducive to DOD's strategic goals? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. The right-sizing of Eielson AFB is tied to DOD's strategic goal of reducing the ``cost of doing business.'' This entails reducing the rate of growth of manpower costs, finding further efficiencies in overhead and headquarters, and business practices. Eielson AFB hosts the only single squadron wing in the Active Duty Air Force. The Air Force proposes moving the 18th Aggressor Squadron and associated maintenance support to Joint Base Elmendorf- Richardson in fiscal year 2013. The movement of the Aggressor squadron will garner efficiencies by reducing maintenance supervision overhead and support base functions. Units, such as flightline and backshop maintenance, will relocate to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson with the 18th Aggressor Squadron. There is sufficient capacity at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson (hangars, flightline parking, and administrative space) to beddown the 18th Aggressor Squadron. Further manpower reductions will be assessed in fiscal year 2014 for fiscal year 2015 and tied to installation restructuring and right-sizing, with remaining manpower/infrastructure supporting surge/war readiness materiel requirements, Alaska Air National Guard's 168th Air Refueling Wing, the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex, and exercises (e.g., Red Flag and Northern Edge). The proposal to retain the 168 Air Refueling Wing at Eielson AFB and maintain the base and runway operating capability while moving the training-coded F-16s to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson is directly tied to the strategic importance of this base and this location. The robust training capability for Red Flag Alaska exercises will remain at Eielson, a testament to the quality and capacity for unparalleled, world-class training and readiness emphasis, which is of particular importance to the Pacific theater. While the training-coded Aggressor F-16s are slated to relocate to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, they will still participate in and support these large force, joint and combined exercises, the same way the combat-coded units at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson have done for years. The current training and readiness focus of effort will remain under the current proposal while affording the Air Force the opportunity to expand operations, if necessary, in the future specifically to meet the strategic goals in the Pacific. 65. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta, please provide more details regarding DOD's intent to seek authority for BRAC. You have indicated if Congress authorizes BRAC, DOD wants to move quickly on the process and implementation. The last BRAC took 5 years to complete; in fact, DOD sought waivers to extend the deadline for more than five BRAC actions. DOD will be responsible for environmental remediation at sites and community redevelopment which takes years and cannot be circumvented. How does DOD envision completing and implementing BRAC immediately? Secretary Panetta. Asking for a 2013 round is aggressive; but given the magnitude of the cuts we are making in force structure, we cannot afford to wait. Moving forward quickly will enable DOD to reap savings quickly and adjust to force structure changes in an effective manner. With this aggressive timeline in mind, we have started the initial preparatory work regarding internal governance for a BRAC process-- inventorying our property and evaluating the extent to which we need to update our analytical tools. These efforts will enable us to proceed expeditiously once Congress authorizes BRAC. We will be ready to use the authority effectively and therefore urge Congress to authorize BRAC. Additionally, in light of the accelerated timeline, our legislative proposal provides us additional time to submit the required Force Structure Plan and Installation Inventory not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of the legislation for the fiscal year 2013 round. 66. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta, BRAC 2005 cost DOD $35 billion to implement. GAO estimated savings from the BRAC 2005 round will not be realized for at least a decade. DOD has to find savings now. How did DOD conclude BRAC is a financially sound decision in the near-term? Secretary Panetta. Of all the efficiency measures that DOD has undertaken over the years, BRAC is perhaps the most successful and significant. The first four rounds of BRAC generated $8 billion in annual recurring savings, which now total $100 billion. The comparable figure for BRAC 2005 is $4 billion. The annual recurring savings for all five rounds ($12 billion) represents the additional costs that DOD would incur every year for base operating support, personnel, and leasing costs without BRAC. Enough money to buy 300 Apache attack helicopters, 124 F/A-18E/F Super Hornets, or four Virginia-class submarines. Because BRAC is a key priority, DOD will apply the resources necessary to support both a robust and thorough BRAC analysis and an efficient and effective implementation process. BRAC begins generating savings almost immediately, and those savings will partially offset its initial costs. BRAC will generate recurring savings far in excess of the upfront investment. The 2005 round took place during a period of growth in the military, and it reflected the needs and goals of that time--aligning our infrastructure with our military strategy so as to maximize warfighting capacity and efficiency. These efforts contributed significantly to DOD's effectiveness; but they necessarily required substantial investments. Because the focus of the BRAC 2005 round was not on saving money and space, it is a poor gauge of the savings that DOD can achieve through another BRAC round. The prior BRAC rounds-- which reduced capacity and paid off in 2 to 3 years--represent a better gauge of such costs and savings. In those rounds, one-time costs ranging from $2.7 billion to $6.6 billion resulted in annual recurring savings of $1 billion to $2.7 billion. 67. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta, what is DOD's estimated cost of another BRAC? Secretary Panetta. The costs of a potential BRAC round will not be known until after DOD has developed its recommendations, they have been reviewed by the independent BRAC Commission and forwarded by the President to Congress, and, finally, Congress has failed to enact a joint resolution disapproving the recommendations. It is only at the end of this process that DOD can develop budget quality estimates of the costs. 68. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta, the budget is decreasing; how will DOD pay for BRAC? Secretary Panetta. Because BRAC is a key priority, DOD will apply the resources necessary to support both a robust and thorough BRAC analysis and an efficient and effective implementation process. As a legal obligation of DOD, the normal internal budget deliberation process will determine the source of the BRAC implementation costs. 69. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the Air Force has been the only Service to vocalize strong support for BRAC. The Army has not made necessary decisions regarding end strength decrease force structure impacts. The last BRAC Commission determined another BRAC round would not be required until 2015 at the earliest. The request for BRAC appears to be preemptive and driven by budget constraints, not by national security needs. Was an assessment conducted which determined another BRAC round was required at this time? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. We have not conducted an assessment for a future round; however, parametric techniques used to analyze various capacity measures in 2004 indicated that DOD had 24 percent excess capacity overall relative to the fiscal year 2009 force structure-based requirements. Because BRAC 2005 eliminated only about 3 percent of DOD's capacity, we believe we have significant excess capacity, and force structure reductions will only exacerbate this condition. In accordance with its request for authority to conduct two new rounds of BRAC, DOD will undertake a similar analysis used in BRAC 2005 to give a sense of its current excess capacity. 70. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, once infrastructure is lost in the United States, the capacity may never be gained back. What risk is assumed by more base closures? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. As it has done in prior BRAC rounds, DOD will develop closure and realignment recommendations that provide it with the flexibility to adapt to changing circumstances, particularly surge requirements that can arise from contingencies, mobilizations, or extended changes in force levels. Specifically, DOD uses a 20-year force structure plan and has specific selection criteria \1\ that capture the concept of surge capacity. Criterion one requires DOD to consider ``current and future'' mission capabilities, and criterion three assesses the ``ability to accommodate contingency, mobilization, surge and future total force requirements.'' Furthermore, through execution of prior BRAC rounds, and as verified in a 1999 study, DOD has demonstrated that it will retain within the U.S. installation infrastructure sufficient difficult-to-reconstitute assets to respond to surge, accommodate a significant reconstitution of the force, and support all forces, including those currently based outside the United States. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Congress specified the following criteria for use in the 2005 BRAC round, and DOD has proposed to use the same criteria for the requested rounds in 2013 and 2015. Military Value Criteria: 1. The current and future mission capabilities and the impact on operational readiness of the total force of DOD, including the impact on joint warfighting, training, and readiness. 2. The availability and condition of land, facilities, and associated airspace (including training areas suitable for maneuver by ground, naval, or air forces throughout a diversity of climate and terrain areas and staging areas for the use of the Armed Forces in Homeland defense missions) at both existing and potential receiving locations. 3. The ability to accommodate contingency, mobilization, surge, and future total force requirements at both existing and potential receiving locations to support operations and training. 4. The cost of operations and the manpower implications. Other Criteria: 5. The extent and timing of potential costs and savings, including the number of years, beginning with the date of completion of the closure or realignment, for the savings to exceed the costs. 6. The economic impact on existing communities in the vicinity of military installations. 7. The ability of the infrastructure of both the existing and potential receiving communities to support forces, missions, and personnel. 8. The environmental impact, including the impact of costs related to potential environmental restoration, waste management, and environmental compliance activities. 71. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, according to DOD's Base Structure Report for 2011, DOD has 611 military sites overseas. Why is DOD not pursuing a more aggressive effort to identify sites overseas for closure and realignment? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. DOD continuously assesses U.S. defense posture overseas. The President and Secretary of Defense led DOD's civilian and military leadership through extensive deliberations to develop the most recent Defense Strategic Guidance, which was issued on January 5, 2012. This strategy requires DOD to sustain a global presence, with a rebalancing of our forces toward the Asia-Pacific region and a sustainment of our presence in the Middle East. In Europe, we are sustaining a presence that will meet defense commitments, deter aggression, and place greater reliance on rotational presence and partnership. Over the last several years, we have made significant reductions in our overseas infrastructure and personnel. Since 2003, DOD has returned more than 100 sites in Europe to our host nations and reduced our personnel by one third. Between fiscal year 2012 and fiscal year 2015, the Army alone will execute 23 additional site closures that were previously approved and announced for return to the host nation. But more can and should be done in light of upcoming force structure changes. Our European footprint today consists of more than 300 discrete sites, ranging from small communications sites to robust Main Operating Bases. Given the shift in strategic focus to the Pacific, coupled with force reductions in Europe and decreases in required support to CENTCOM, the legacy footprint in Europe is a prime focus. To that end, we are embarking on a European capacity analysis that will seek to reduce long-term expenses through footprint consolidations, while ensuring our infrastructure properly supports operational requirements and strategic commitments. Our examination will review opportunities across the theater for more extensive joint and coalition utilization of facilities. We will gauge the extent to which our installations can shed excess capacity or absorb new functions from other installations of lesser military value which, in turn, could be reduced or closed. In doing this, we will be careful to assess the cost and savings of each action and prioritize for implementation those initiatives with the highest payback. We expect to identify some preliminary options later this year. 72. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta, did DOD or OMB assess the impact of a BRAC in the next few years on the economy and unemployment rates? Secretary Panetta. No. DOD did not assess the impact of a BRAC in the next few years on the economy and unemployment rates. If Congress authorizes BRAC, DOD will develop recommendations for closures and realignments based on 20-year force structure plan and statutory selection criteria \2\ that place priority on military value. Economic impact is also one of the criteria. Specifically, criteria 6 is ``The economic impact on existing communities in the vicinity of military installations.'' --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \2\ Congress specified the following criteria for use in the 2005 BRAC round, and DOD has proposed to use the same criteria for the requested rounds in 2013 and 2015. Military Value Criteria: 1. The current and future mission capabilities and the impact on operational readiness of the total force of DOD, including the impact on joint warfighting, training, and readiness. 2. The availability and condition of land, facilities, and associated airspace (including training areas suitable for maneuver by ground, naval, or air forces throughout a diversity of climate and terrain areas and staging areas for the use of the Armed Forces in homeland defense missions) at both existing and potential receiving locations. 3. The ability to accommodate contingency, mobilization, surge and future total force requirements at both existing and potential receiving locations to support operations and training. 4. The cost of operations and the manpower implications. Other Criteria: 5. The extent and timing of potential costs and savings, including the number of years, beginning with the date of completion of the closure or realignment, for the savings to exceed the costs. 6. The economic impact on existing communities in the vicinity of military installations. 7. The ability of the infrastructure of both the existing and potential receiving communities to support forces, missions and personnel. 8. The environmental impact, including the impact of costs related to potential environmental restoration, waste management and environmental compliance activities. ASIA-PACIFIC REGION 73. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, with our defense posture shifting to the Asia-Pacific, shouldn't we ensure the military's global footprint is aligned with our strategy? Secretary Panetta. Yes, DOD is ensuring that U.S. global defense posture is aligned with our strategy. We will have a Joint Force with global presence emphasizing the Asia-Pacific region and the Middle East, while still ensuring the ability to maintain defense commitments to Europe and elsewhere. Wherever possible, we will develop innovative, low-cost, and small-footprint approaches to achieve U.S. security objectives. In the Asia-Pacific region, DOD is pursuing a defense posture that is geographically distributed, operationally resilient, and politically sustainable. U.S. defense posture and presence in East Asia, Oceania, and Southeast Asia demonstrates the fact that the United States is a resident power in the region. The budget request for fiscal year 2013 funds enhancements to our presence in Southeast Asia, such as the rotational deployment of U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Air Force units in Australia, and of Littoral Combat Ships to Singapore. The Navy will also rebalance the fleet to establish a greater presence in the Pacific and all the Services will continue to maintain significant force structure in the region as we work to increase interaction with partners and allies. We are sustaining and, in some cases, enhancing elements of our defense posture in the Middle East. We will maintain an operationally responsive posture in this critical region to deter threats, as well as assure allies and partners in the face of growing security challenges. We are also evolving our posture in Europe. Although we plan to withdraw two Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) over the next 2 years, we will maintain a steady state presence of two BCTs in Europe and allocate a U.S.-based BCT to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Response Force, including periodic rotation of a battalion task force and brigade headquarters staff support to Europe for training and exercises to improve interoperability and coalition operations. Reflecting the resource-constrained environment, we will also work with NATO allies to develop a ``smart defense'' approach to pool, share, and specialize capabilities that address future challenges in Europe and beyond. General Dempsey. Absolutely. Global posture actions are continuously adjusted against requirements to support combatant commanders, and are designed to position U.S. forces to better conduct OCO, ease the burden of a high operational tempo on members of the Armed Forces and their families, and improve the ability of the United States to meet its commitments, while making these commitments more affordable and sustainable. 74. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, why not utilize U.S. locations, like Alaska, as we shift our focus to the Asia- Pacific region to simultaneously promote economic development and readiness? Secretary Panetta. We currently leverage a variety of forces and capabilities stationed in Alaska to support PACOM assigned missions, and will continue to do so as we rebalance toward the Asia-Pacific region. Increasing the utilization of capabilities already stationed in Alaska, or increasing number of the forces stationed there for employment in PACOM-assigned missions, must be assessed against the ability of those forces to provide timely response to crises. As we implement our strategy, we continually assess the way our forces are arrayed and their effectiveness in providing the appropriate range of political, security, and economic benefits to the United States. General Dempsey. As we continue to adapt our existing military force posture in the Asia-Pacific region, we are examining a number of potential options to ensure that we enhance the Joint Force's ability to surge and regenerate forces and capabilities to confront and defeat aggression anywhere in the world. GROUND-BASED MIDCOURSE DEFENSE SYSTEM 75. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, funding for the Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) was protected. How does the fiscal year 2013 request compare to last year's request of $1.2 billion? Please describe the importance of this system in defending the Homeland and the threat environment. Secretary Panetta. The fiscal year 2012 appropriated amount, $1.159 billion, included a general congressional reduction of $1.5 million. Program execution includes Control Test Vehicle-1 (CTV-01) and Flight Test Ground-based Interceptor (GBI) (FTG)-06b, completion of the Fort Greeley, AK, power plant, completion of Missile Field 2, delivery of a second fire direction center node at Fort Greeley, and initiate manufacturing for GBIs 48 to 52. During fiscal year 2012, GMD will build up two GBIs to support the return to intercept (RTI) flight tests in fiscal year 2013. To increase GMD system reliability for Homeland defense, the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) will activate the hardened power plant at Fort Greeley this year and increase firepower of the fielded GBIs by continuing to test and upgrade the reliability of GBI components. Of note, on December 2011, GMD awarded the development and sustainment contract to Boeing, which gained efficiencies and savings across the Future Years Development Program. During fiscal year 2013, GMD plans to complete the RTI testing with CTV-01 and FTG-06b and to restart interceptor manufacturing, incorporating the corrective actions into the GBIs yet to be delivered. GMD will continue manufacturing GBIs 48 to 52 and start manufacturing GBIs 53 to 57. As part of improving Homeland defense, GMD will continue construction on an east coast in-flight interceptor communications system data terminal at Fort Drum, NY, planning for FTG-08 in fiscal year 2014, including the build-up of the second 2-Stage GBI, planning for the FTG-11 first intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) and salvo test in fiscal year 2015, and continuing software development for both the GBI and ground systems products. The fiscal year 2013 GMD budget request is $903.2 million. Reductions in fiscal year 2013 include transferring $5.8 million for Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) to the Command and Control, Battle Management and Communications Program and transfer $20.7 million to the MDA Program Wide Support account for facilities and environmental support at multiple MDA locations. Completing Missile Field 2 and deploying the Fort Greeley power plant in fiscal year 2012 resulted in lower funding requirements. The fiscal year 2013 budget request continues to support the GMD system as the primary element of the Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) that provides combatant commanders to defend the U.S. Homeland against limited attack by intermediate- and long-range ballistic missiles. The primary components of the GMD system are the GBIs and the ground systems. The GBI is a solid-fuel boost vehicle integrated with a single non-explosive exoatmospheric kill vehicle (EKV). There are currently 30 GBIs emplaced in two missile complexes, at Fort Greeley, AK, and Vandenberg AFB, CA. The system can negate attacks from the current and projected threat from Northeast Asia and Southwest Asia. General Dempsey. DOD requested $903.2 million in fiscal year 2013 for GMD RDT&E funding to buy an additional 5 GBIs for delivery in fiscal year 2018 and upgrade our current operational fleet of 30 GBIs. This will complete the total purchase of 57 GBIs. Today, GMD's operational GBIs protect the United States against a limited ICBM raid launched from current regional threats. The ballistic missile threat is increasing both quantitatively and qualitatively, and is likely to continue to do so over the next decade. Current global trends indicate the ballistic missile systems are becoming more flexible, mobile, survivable, reliable, and accurate, while also increasing in range. Regional actors such as North Korea and Iran continue to develop long range missiles that will threaten the United States, but it is not clear exactly when and how this type of ICBM threat to the U.S. Homeland will mature. 76. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the Sea- Based X-Band (SBX) radar is critical to GMD system performance and warfighter confidence in the system. Yet, DOD is proposing to make it a test asset only. What risk is assumed to GMD system performance by making the SBX radar a test asset only? Secretary Panetta. SBX's primary mission is discrimination and it is not necessary for tracking. Therefore, SBX is not required to be part of 24/7 operational kill chain today because there is no evidence of sophisticated countermeasures that require discrimination. With indications and warnings, SBX could return to full time status. In the Limited Test Support Status, the SBX radar will retain its unique contingency operations capabilities and will continue to support testing. Maintaining SBX in Limited Support Status does not add risk to GMD performance. Its technical performance capability will continue, including connectivity to the GMD Fire Control System. SBX will maintain its American Bureau of Shipping (ABS) and Coast Guard certifications, and will be staffed to maintain the vessel, X-band radar (XBR) and other critical systems for support to both testing and contingency activation. SBX will continue to participate in BMDS ground and flight testing, while being available to support contingency operations as directed by OSD and the Joint Staff. The MDA is working with Joint Staff and the U.S. Strategic Command's (STRATCOM) Joint Functional Component Command for Integrated Missile Defense to determine the appropriate response time for contingencies. During contingency operations an unfunded requirement reimbursement will be requested. Under the direction of OSD and the Joint Staff, SBX deployed from Pearl Harbor in less than 72 hours to provide contingency support during the North Korean space launch. This was the first operation of the SBX under U.S. Pacific Fleet tactical control and with Navy ownership and operation of the SBX vessel. General Dempsey. DOD intends to place SBX radar in a limited test operations status due to affordability reasons, but we will be prepared to activate the SBX if indications and warnings of an advanced threat from Northeast Asia become evident. MDA is working with the Joint Staff and STRATCOM's Joint Functional Component for Integrated Missile Defense to determine the appropriate timeline for activation contingencies. DOD will begin upgrading the Clear Early Warning Radar in Alaska for full missile defense capability by 2016. We are requesting $347.0 million in fiscal year 2013 for BMDS sensors development for Homeland defense, including support of the Cobra Dane Radar and the Upgraded Early Warning Radars (UEWR) at Beale AFB (California), Fylingdales (United Kingdom), and Thule (Greenland). We are requesting $192.1 million to operate and sustain these radars and $227.7 million to procure additional radars and radar spares in fiscal year 2013. Based on DOD's robust support of current fielded and future sensors, the ability to reactivate SBX, if the threat warrants, minimizes the risks to the overall GMD performance. MEDIUM EXTENDED AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM 77. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012 limited availability of Medium Extended Air Defense System (MEADS) funds to 25 percent until DOD submitted a plan to use the funds as final obligations for a restructured program or termination costs. So why is DOD seeking another $400.9 million in fiscal year 2013 for this program, a program the United States does not intend to buy? Secretary Panetta. The administration has requested funding in the fiscal year 2013 budget to complete the MEADS Design and Development (D&D) PoC effort with Germany and Italy. DOD is seeking $400.9 million in fiscal year 2013 funds to honor the final year of our MEADS D&D Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) commitment that will enable completion of the MEADS development phase as it is currently planned. The PoC effort enables all three nations to obtain benefit from our collective program investment to date and will bring the development program to an orderly conclusion. Failure to fund our fiscal year 2013 commitment will be viewed by our allies as reneging on our promises. During the Chicago NATO Summit on May 20, 2012, NATO allies achieved a major breakthrough on missile defense--10 years in the making--by declaring an interim ballistic missile defense (BMD) capability as an initial step toward establishing a NATO missile defense system. The European Phased Adaptive Approach (EPAA) will be a major contributor to NATO missile defense and is designed to protect the U.S. Homeland, U.S. deployed forces, and our allies against the increasing threats posed by the proliferation of ballistic missiles. Where BMD was once a controversial subject within the alliance, we have reached consensus to operationalize this capability and have the allies share the burden of deterring and defending against those who could threaten us with ballistic missiles. This is a major achievement of U.S. policy; a decision by Congress to prohibit any additional funding for MEADS at this late date would diminish the consensus reached in Chicago. The United States relies on allies to share the burden of peacekeeping and defense in coalition activities and the development of effective defense capabilities that are of direct benefit to the United States. In this context, I believe it is important to live up to our commitments to our allies. We made a commitment to two of our closest allies--Germany and Italy--to develop MEADS cooperatively to achieve those objectives. Failure to meet our MEADS MOU fiscal year 2013 funding obligations could negatively affect the willingness of our allies to join future cooperative endeavors, bilaterally or through NATO, that have been strongly supported by the administration and Congress at a time when cooperation through concepts, such as Smart Defense, is critical to ensuring NATO and its members are developing needed capabilities for the future. In addition, failure of the United States to provide funding for fiscal year 2013 would likely lead to a dispute with Germany and Italy, both of which have indicated that they would assert that the United States has unilaterally withdrawn from the MOU. On the other hand, full funding of the final year of the MEADS PoC would ensure that the United States receives a return on its 8-year investment in the form of a data archival package for future potential use on other U.S. air and missile defense improvements. We must act now to avoid a situation that would cause harm to our relationships with two of our closest allies. General Dempsey. In accordance with the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012, DOD has repeatedly consulted and attempted to negotiate with our international partners, Germany and Italy, regarding development of a plan to further restructure the program in the event that Congress does not authorize or appropriate fiscal year 2013 funding to complete our MEADS D&D MOU obligations. DOD believes that completing the MEADS PoC and securing the benefit of the development program is the correct course of action under the current constraints. The MEADS elements (advanced 360 degree radars, a lightweight launcher with the PAC-3 Missile Segment Enhancement (MSE) missile, and a battle management system), if fully realized and validated by PoC, would add to the capabilities available to advance U.S. air and cruise/terminal BMD architectures. While DOD understands the need to make difficult choices in the current fiscal environment concerning funding for all of our activities, we also note that failure to meet our MEADS MOU funding obligations for fiscal year 2013 could negatively affect our allies' implementation of current transatlantic projects and multinational cooperation--as well as their willingness to join future cooperative endeavors with the United States--that are strongly supported by the administration and Congress. 78. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what efforts did both of you personally engage in to terminate or restructure the program to ensure last year's appropriation was the final obligation in accordance with the law? Secretary Panetta. In accordance with the requirements of section 235 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012, DOD has consulted with the German and Italian participants regarding development of a plan to restructure the program further in the event that Congress does not authorize or appropriate fiscal year 2013 funding for these purposes. We have informed the German and Italian participants that there is significant risk that fiscal year 2013 funding may not be made available by Congress. In response to our attempts to engage in discussions, the German and Italian participants have consistently stated that they remain fully committed to their MOU obligations and expect that all three participants will provide funding in 2013 to complete the PoC effort. Although we have engaged with the German and Italian participants to seek to complete MEADS MOU efforts using only fiscal year 2012 funding, we cannot force them to agree to this course of action. During his recent visit to the United States, I personally discussed this matter with the German Minister of Defense (MoD). I will continue to engage my German and Italian counterparts on this issue. General Dempsey. In accordance with the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012, DOD has repeatedly consulted and attempted to negotiate with our international partners, Germany and Italy, regarding development of a plan to further restructure the program in the event that Congress does not authorize or appropriate fiscal year 2013 funding to complete our MOU obligations. Secretary Panetta met with the German MoD in February where the German MoD reiterated his unequivocal support for completing the MEADS PoC. We have advised Germany and Italy that there is significant risk that fiscal year 2013 funding may not be made available. In response, our partners have made clear to DOD, and Germany has advised Senator Levin directly, that they remain fully committed to their MOU obligations and expect that all partner nations will provide their 2013 funding to complete the PoC effort. They have also made clear that we are too late in the development effort to change course again and that we jeopardize our ability to realize the benefits of the program if we withdraw from our 9-year agreement near the end of the eighth year. 79. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in these austere budget times, how can DOD justify a half a billion dollar investment in a program the warfighters will not use, and justify a request in violation of law? Secretary Panetta. The administration has requested funding in the fiscal year 2013 budget to complete the MEADS D&D PoC effort with Germany and Italy. DOD is seeking $400.9 million in fiscal year 2013 funds to honor the final year of our MEADS D&D MOU commitment that will enable completion of the MEADS development phase as it is currently planned. The PoC effort enables all three nations to obtain benefit from our collective program investment to date and will bring the development program to an orderly conclusion. Failure to fund our fiscal year 2013 commitment will be viewed by our allies as reneging on our promises. During the Chicago NATO Summit on May 20, 2012, NATO allies achieved a major breakthrough on missile defense--10 years in the making--by declaring an interim BMD capability as an initial step toward establishing a NATO missile defense system. The EPAA will be a major contributor to NATO missile defense and is designed to protect the U.S. Homeland, U.S. deployed forces, and our allies against the increasing threats posed by the proliferation of ballistic missiles. Where BMD was once a controversial subject within the alliance, we have reached consensus to operationalize this capability and have the allies share the burden of deterring and defending against those who could threaten us with ballistic missiles. This is a major achievement of U.S. policy; a decision by Congress to prohibit any additional funding for MEADS at this late date would diminish the consensus reached in Chicago. The United States relies on allies to share the burden of peacekeeping and defense in coalition activities and the development of effective defense capabilities that are of direct benefit to the United States. In this context, I believe it is important to live up to our commitments to our allies. We made a commitment to two of our closest allies--Germany and Italy--to develop MEADS cooperatively to achieve those objectives. Failure to meet our MEADS MOU fiscal year 2013 funding obligations could negatively affect the willingness of our allies to join future cooperative endeavors, bilaterally or through NATO, that have been strongly supported by the administration and Congress at a time when cooperation through concepts, such as Smart Defense, is critical to ensuring NATO and its members are developing needed capabilities for the future. In addition, failure of the United States to provide funding for fiscal year 2013 would likely lead to a dispute with Germany and Italy, both of which have indicated that they would assert that the United States has unilaterally withdrawn from the MOU. On the other hand, full funding of the final year of the MEADS PoC would ensure that the United States receives a return on its 8-year investment in the form of a data archival package for future potential use on other U.S. air and missile defense improvements. We must act now to avoid a situation that would cause harm to our relationships with two of our closest allies. General Dempsey. In accordance with the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012, DOD has repeatedly consulted and attempted to negotiate with our international partners, Germany and Italy, regarding development of a plan to further restructure the program in the event that Congress does not authorize or appropriate fiscal year 2013 funding to complete our MEADS D&D MOU obligations. DOD believes that completing the MEADS PoC and securing the benefit of the development program is the correct course of action. The MEADS elements (advanced 360 degree radars, a lightweight launcher with the PAC-3 MSE missile, and a battle management system), if fully realized and validated by PoC, would add to the capabilities available to advance U.S. air and cruise/terminal BMD architectures. Failure to meet our MEADS MOU funding obligations for fiscal year 2013 could negatively affect our allies' implementation of current transatlantic projects and multinational cooperation--as well as their willingness to join future cooperative endeavors with the United States--that are strongly supported by the administration and Congress. DOMESTIC SUPPORT MISSIONS 80. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, Congress has vocalized concerns about DOD resourcing domestic support missions repeatedly for the last several years. For fiscal year 2013, the Air Force is proposing to retire the Joint Cargo Aircraft and the Army will proceed with divestiture of the Sherpa. These actions leave the National Guard in many States without needed capability and resources to fulfill domestic support missions. How is DOD ensuring domestic support missions are not undermined? Secretary Panetta. Although the C-27 divestiture and subsequent Army C-23 divestiture will reduce National Guard airlift, sufficient airlift capacity remains (over 1,000 rotary-wing and over 400 fixed- wing aircraft) and is spread across the 10 Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) regions that States may leverage in response to an emergency. In situations where State resources are overwhelmed, the Air Force will provide assistance to civil authorities in accordance with the Stafford Act or as directed by the President. As such, the analysis which formed the rationale for the force structure adjustment included supporting civil authorities when requested as part of a larger FEMA- led Federal response. The 2013 presidential budget request reduced the C-130 fleet size to 318 aircraft to meet the requirement that was outlined in the newly- articulated strategy presented by the President and the Secretary of Defense. When determining the number of airlift aircraft required to meet the new strategy, forces are being sized to meet one large-scale campaign internationally, as well as support two domestic missions, a major regional disaster, and a Homeland defense event. As a follow-on measure, the 2012 NDAA-directed airlift study, due at the end of 2012, will further refine plans to support domestic missions without the C-23 Sherpa. General Dempsey. Defending the Homeland and providing support of civil authorities is a primary mission of the U.S. Armed Forces. As such, DOD carefully considered domestic support missions in our analysis of requirements for the fiscal year 2013 budget submission. Although not every State will retain organic airlift capability, the DOD Total Force remains fully capable of meeting our domestic requirements while at the same time deterring and defeating aggression by any potential adversary. When called upon, we will leverage existing National Guard capabilities along with additional Active and Reserve Forces needed to ensure the safety and security of our citizens. 81. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, how did domestic support missions factor in to decisionmaking? Secretary Panetta. One of the primary missions of the U.S. Armed Forces is to defend the Homeland and provide support to civil authorities. With regard to airlift, the Air Force routinely conducts defense support of civil authorities and assists at all levels in preventing, protecting against, mitigating the effects of, and responding to manmade or natural disasters when directed by the President or approved by DOD. DOD conducted the Mobility Capabilities and Requirements Study 2016 and Case 3 (270 C-130s) of the study is consistent with the new Defense Strategic Guidance. This analysis includes airlift to support two domestic missions, a major regional disaster, and a Homeland defense event to form the 270 intra-theater aircraft requirements. In support of the Homeland defense mission, the Air Force continues to meet mission requirements/taskings through the joint Global Force Management process that prioritizes all combatant commanders (i.e., Northern Command, CENTCOM, PACOM, et cetera) requirements. General Dempsey. In last year's Comprehensive Review of the Future Role of the Reserve Component, DOD examined Reserve component support for Homeland defense and Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA). This report concluded that, although Homeland defense and DSCA are Total Force responsibilities, ``the Nation needs to focus particular attention on better using the competencies of National Guard and Reserve component organizations. The National Guard is particularly well-suited for DSCA missions.'' The report added that ``except in rare circumstances, the National Guard can be expected to support civil authorities at the direction of State Governors.'' DOD's response to the BCA was to provide a balanced force that best protects the Nation, both at home and abroad. Although we necessarily reduced National Guard forces along with those of Active Duty and Reserve, we did so in a manner which allows us to provide capabilities adequate for our domestic support mission. Because many domestic missions emerge in response to unforeseen crises, when called upon we can leverage other State capabilities with the consent of those States' Governors on an as-needed basis. Should a national emergency arise, we will augment the National Guard using capabilities found within the Active component as permitted by Title 10 and, as a last resort, the Civil Reserve Air Fleet. U.N. CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF THE SEA 82. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, do you support the Law of the Sea Treaty? Secretary Panetta. I strongly support the United States' accession to the 1982 U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). DOD's civilian and military senior leadership have been strong proponents in favor of U.S. accession for more than a decade. General Dempsey. I strongly support the United States' accession to the 1982 UNCLOS. 83. Senator Begich. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, how will accession to the UNCLOS enhance our strategic interests and national security? Secretary Panetta. Accession to the 1982 UNCLOS would enhance the United States' strategic interests and national security in several ways. These include the following: As a treaty party, the United States can best protect the navigational freedoms enshrined in the 1982 UNCLOS that are key to U.S. global force presence and power projection capability. The current status of the United States requires us to assert our rights through customary international law, subject to change based on state practice. The United States would have access to the benefits afforded to treaty parties, which importantly include the UNCLOS's institutions and meetings. The United States would no longer be relegated to observer status and could fully participate in the ongoing development and interpretation of the 1982 UNCLOS. In fact, nearly every maritime power, our NATO allies, and the other permanent members of the U.N. Security Council are already treaty parties. Being a party would allow the United States to exert a level of influence that is reflective of its status as the world's foremost maritime power. Accession would solidify a truly massive increase in the United States' resource and economic jurisdiction, not only to 200 nautical miles off our coasts, but to a broad continental margin beyond that. Accession would ensure the United States' ability to take advantage of the opening of the Arctic, including the enormous natural resource potential of the Arctic. China continues to flex its muscles in the South China Sea at a time when the United States is rebalancing toward the Asia-Pacific region. Lack of accession continues to put the United States in a weaker position in critical bilateral and multilateral discussions--whereas China seeks to use its status as a treaty party to its advantage. Accession would strengthen the United States' hand in regional discussions as we seek to build upon the depth and breadth of regional partnerships and access. General Dempsey. Becoming a Party to the UNCLOS would enhance our strategic interests and national security by preserving our strategic influence as the world's foremost maritime power and strengthening our ability to lead developments in global maritime security. The United States would also be able to reinforce the UNCLOS's freedoms of navigation and overflight, and the other lawful uses of the sea related to those freedoms, that are essential to the global presence and mobility of our Armed Forces. This includes movement of forces and materiel through strategic international straits such as the Straits of Gibraltar, Malacca, Hormuz, and Bab el-Mandeb. In addition, becoming a party would strengthen combined operations with coalition partners that are treaty parties and advance important national security initiatives such as the Proliferation Security Initiative. Accession would also allow the United States to take better advantage of emerging opportunities in the Arctic related to navigation, resources, and other activities, as well as enhance our credibility in a large number of Asia-focused multilateral venues where we are seeking to diffuse tensions and encourage the peaceful resolution of disputes in the South China Sea. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin III DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CONTRACTORS 84. Senator Manchin. Secretary Panetta, how many contractors does DOD employ? Secretary Panetta. DOD provides this data to Congress annually in the Inventory of Contracts for Services required by section 2330a, title 10, U.S.C., as amended by section 807 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2008. On August 28, 2011, DOD submitted the Fiscal Year 2010 Inventory, reporting 622,722 contractor full-time equivalents for the fiscal year. 85. Senator Manchin. Secretary Panetta, what is the average salary of a DOD contractor? Secretary Panetta. DOD awards contracts for a wide range of goods and services. The salaries of DOD contractor employees similarly span a wide range. Contractor salaries are affected by a number of factors, including an individual's experience, training, expertise, and the location of performance. DOD endeavors to maximize use of competitive procurements. In competitive procurements, the contract award amount is generally a function of the market price and therefore contractor salaries are influenced by competitive market pressures. Except in limited circumstances, such as contracts subject to the Service Contract Act or the Davis-Bacon Act, DOD does not dictate private sector salaries. Although DOD does not maintain a database of contractor employee salaries, our contracting officers use Defense Contract Management Agency negotiated labor and overhead rate agreements with DOD contractors as a basis for negotiating contracts at a fair and reasonable price. FORCE STRUCTURE 86. Senator Manchin. General Dempsey, having served as a governor, I have seen firsthand the value of the Total Force Policy and the cost- effective value of a multi-missioned force such as the National Guard that is rooted in our Nation's communities where we need support. Have you effectively evaluated the cost efficiencies of the Army and Air National Guard? General Dempsey. Yes, and DOD continues to evaluate the cost effectiveness of not only the Army and Air National Guard, but all Active and Reserve components from all Services. While this task is accomplished primarily within the Services themselves, the Joint Staff and OSD monitor and provide oversight of the evaluation process, and frequently coordinate and/or sponsor their own studies to validate the work performed by the Services. 87. Senator Manchin. General Dempsey, wouldn't it be advisable to wait on the data from these reports before making any force structure changes? General Dempsey. Both OSD and the Joint Staff conducted assessments of the Joint Force prior to submitting the current budget. The programmed force structure for 2017, which includes force structure changes, was assessed against our strategy and we determined that the resultant military forces would be sufficient to meet the needs of our Nation. AIR FORCE BUDGET--GUARD AND RESERVES 88. Senator Manchin. Secretary Panetta, the fiscal year 2013 Air Force budget disproportionately cuts the Guard and will necessitate losing the expertise gained by pilots and capabilities over a decade of war. Are you confident that this budget meets the requirements to ``surge and regenerate forces and capabilities'' that the President spelled out in your Priorities for the 21st Century Defense? Secretary Panetta. Yes. The new Defense Strategic Guidance for DOD articulates priorities for a 21st century defense that sustains U.S. global leadership. The Air Force approached this challenging task guided by the following principles: ensure the Total Force can fulfill surge requirements; maintain a balance between components that allows us to fulfill continuing rotational requirements at sustainable rates; retain the recruiting, training, and operational seasoning base required to sustain the Total Force's needs into the future; and ensure the Reserve component remains relevant and engaged in both enduring and evolving missions. Maintaining the appropriate mix of forces between the Active and Reserve components is critical to sustaining Air Force capabilities for forward presence, rapid response, and high-rate rotational demands within a smaller overall force. The Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve are integrated into all major Air Force mission areas, train to the same high standards as the Active component, and are invaluable partners in helping meet the Air Force's many and varied commitments. 89. Senator Manchin. Secretary Panetta, the Air Force leadership has called this an effort to balance the size of the Active and Reserve components. But this seems to work contrary to your plan to ``maintain a strong National Guard'' to provide the ``concept of reversibility.'' Did the Air Force consider alternative plans that you have said ``reduce the cost of doing business,'' such as relying more heavily on the National Guard and Reserves? Secretary Panetta. The Air Force developed a force structure based on several important objectives, most importantly ensuring the Air Force can provide the capability to accomplish the missions outlined in the new Defense Strategic Guidance with a risk-balanced force in the context of fiscal reductions. It would be ill-advised to make ``proportional'' cuts to the Active component and Reserve component for the sake of being ``fair'' or return to some Active component/Reserve component ratio from days gone by. It is important that we build the force with an Active component/Reserve component ratio that sustains the symbiotic relationship between the Active component/Reserve component and is based on maximizing our capabilities and balancing the risk across the assigned missions in the new Defense Strategic Guidance with the given funding. This is what the Air Force did in its budget request. Relying more heavily on the National Guard and Reserves does not necessarily reduce costs if either the demand cannot be met or the symbiotic balance to sustain the Total Force cannot be maintained. The Air Force rigorously evaluated the mix of Active and Reserve component forces to sustain the symbiotic relationship of the components while ensuring the Total Force is postured to meet both surge and post-surge demands in the new strategy as well as the current and near-term demand for forces from the combatant commanders. This deliberate and considerable effort provides the best way to set the conditions for success in the new strategy through a properly sized Total Force, to include maintaining a strong National Guard, Reserve, and Active Force. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen DON'T ASK DON'T TELL 90. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Panetta, you may be aware, despite the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, a number of policies and programs within DOD continue to exclude same-sex couples. I understand the limitations imposed by the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), however there are a number of DOD policies that could be modified immediately to alleviate many of the lingering inequalities. The Servicemember's Legal Defense Network (SLDN) has identified 11 of these discriminatory policies, which I have included here. Please provide DOD's feedback on the feasibility of altering these policies in a manner consistent with the spirit of the repeal of Don't Ask/Don't Tell. [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Secretary Panetta. Following the effective date of repeal, September 20, 2011, DOD began a deliberative and comprehensive review of the possibility of extending eligibility for benefits, when legally permitted, to same-sex partners. The joint team responsible for this review is examining the benefits, including those on the SLDN list, from a policy, fiscal, legal, and feasibility perspective. This review is ongoing, and the team will report its findings and recommendations to me once the review is completed. FORCES IN THE PACIFIC AND EUROPE 91. Senator Shaheen. Senator Panetta, though I understand DOD's assessment of the geo-political landscape and the need to rebalance our forces toward the Pacific, I remain committed to working with our allies to ensure the strength of the NATO alliance and collective European defense. To that end, I believe the upcoming NATO summit in Chicago will provide an excellent opportunity to reassure our allies that despite the realignment of our forces, the United States remains committed to both NATO and Europe. Will you make that a priority for the upcoming summit? Secretary Panetta. Yes. The United States remains committed to both NATO and Europe. NATO remains of vital importance, and is a net provider of global security. As President Obama has said, ``Europe remains the cornerstone of our engagement with the world,'' and NATO is ``the most capable alliance in history.'' Our NATO allies are our most reliable and capable partners for advancing our shared international security objectives. The transatlantic relationship is critical to confronting the challenges of a complex, dangerous, and fast-changing world. The President, Secretary Clinton, and I have been emphasizing this to allies since we announced our new Defense Strategic Guidance in January and will continue to do so during the NATO summit in Chicago. 92. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Panetta, in your view, what can Congress to do help achieve that objective? Secretary Panetta. DOD appreciates Congress' support for the United States' commitment to Europe and to working with allies to ensure the strength of the NATO alliance. The U.S. defense strategy reaffirms the enduring importance of NATO. We appreciate congressional support for the upcoming NATO summit in Chicago, including support for achieving our objectives in the next phase of transition in Afghanistan, reforming NATO so that it has the capabilities it needs, and strengthening partnerships beyond NATO's borders. FORCE FLEXIBILITY 93. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Panetta, obviously, our strategic shift toward the Asia-Pacific region prioritizes assets in that AOR. However, as recent operations in Libya highlighted, we must maintain the capability to quickly respond to contingencies on the Atlantic side of the country as well. Considering the uncertain and complex world of threats we face today, how important is it to maintain flexibility and balance in making sure a renewed focus on the Asia-Pacific region does not leave us vulnerable on the Atlantic side of the country? Secretary Panetta. U.S. forces will continue to be capable of protecting the Homeland--from the Pacific to the Atlantic coasts--and U.S. security interests in every region of the world. As the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and I have said, we are at a strategic turning point. DOD conducted an intensive, strategy- driven review to guide defense priorities and spending over the coming decade. One result of this review is that the United States will emphasize the Asia-Pacific and the Middle East. Yet, even in a resource-constrained era, we remain committed to the strength and security of our allies and partners across Europe. One example of this is the increased missile defense capabilities we are implementing in Europe. We will maintain a military presence that meets our enduring NATO Article 5 security commitment, deters aggression, and promotes enhanced capacity and interoperability. The real measure of U.S. commitment to Europe is the ability and will to work together to promote shared regional and global interests, and to build and employ collective capabilities as an alliance, as we did in Libya. Additionally, building partnership capacity globally remains important for sharing the costs and responsibilities of global leadership. We will seek to be the security partner of choice by strengthening existing alliances and partnerships and pursuing new partnerships with a growing number of nations--including those in Africa and Latin America. 94. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Panetta, what are your priorities and objective capabilities for U.S. forces remaining in Europe? Secretary Panetta. Even in this resource-constrained era, we remain committed to the strength and security of our allies and partners across Europe. The peace and prosperity of Europe are critically important to the United States, and Europe remains our security partner of choice for military operations and diplomacy around the world. Our priorities include promoting regional security and Euro-Atlantic integration, strengthening NATO, maintaining our Article 5 commitments to allied security, and promoting enhanced capacity and interoperability for coalition operations. The evolving inventory of U.S. forces in Europe will provide the Commander of U.S. European Command with the needed capability to meet operational and training requirements, including activities to ensure that European allies and partners have the capability to conduct expeditionary operations in defense of our common interests. The allocation of a U.S.-based brigade to the NATO Response Force to bolster the training and exercises we conduct with allies is an example of this. Our focus on the evolving security environment includes investing in BMD capability for Europe in response to the emerging threats. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand RAPID INNOVATION FUND 95. Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Panetta, Congress has been very supportive of the Rapid Innovation Fund (RIF), which is intended to increase research and development of new innovative technologies important for our military. This is such a great program. It is my hope that it fosters more U.S.-made nano and other chip-related technologies to address the very serious insecurity in our IT procurement. Yet DOD has been very slow to roll out contracting for this funding, putting only about $100 million out, out of $600 million. And this year's budget has no additional funding. Please explain why DOD does not seem to support this program to foster American innovation in cutting edge military technologies. Secretary Panetta. Congress directed the Secretary of Defense to establish the RIF in section 1073 of the Ike Skelton NDAA for Fiscal Year 2011, Public Law 111-383, and identified $520 million ($460 million research, development, test and evaluation (RDT&E); and $60 million in procurement) for the RIF in DOD and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011, which was signed into law on April 15, 2011. Section 1073 establishes a funding limitation of $3 million and 24- month completion per award. In response to section 1073, DOD issued guidelines in August 2011 for implementation of the RIF, directing the use of open, competitive, and merit-based processes. DOD subsequently published 4 Broad Area Announcements (BAA) during the period September to November 2011 to solicit proposals; more than 3,500 responses were received. Given the large number of responses, the source selection period has been justifiably longer than anticipated. Each proposal received a fair and thorough evaluation using source selection criteria included in the four public solicitations. However, DOD intends to obligate all of the fiscal year 2011 $460 million RDT&E funds prior to October 2012. We anticipate approximately 160 to 180 contract awards. None of the proposals received in response to the four BAAs met the criteria to use the $60 million procurement funds, and DOD is assessing plans to obligate these funds before they expire in September 2013. Congress identified another $200 million for the RIF in the Division A-DOD Appropriations, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012. DOD intends to issue solicitations this summer to use these funds. DOD worked to structure the RIF for success, but it is too early at this time to determine the overall effectiveness of the program in meeting the goals outlined in section 1073. Contract awards are a necessary but insufficient metric; we will also need to assess the number of RIF-funded projects that are successfully completed and transitioned to a DOD acquisition program. Early next year, DOD will assess the performance and transition potential of the contracts awarded via the fiscal year 2011 funds. At that time, DOD will determine whether it should program funds for the RIF in future budget requests. BARRIERS TO SERVICEWOMEN 96. Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Panetta, on February 9, 2012, DOD announced a change in the combat exclusion policy that bars women from formally serving in combat roles. The change was in part due to recommendations made by the Military Leadership Diversity Commission in their March 2011 report. Women are now able to formally serve in roles such as intelligence officer and medic at the battalion level, and receive credit for this service toward promotions; however, women are still barred from serving in the infantry, armor, and special operations forces. This new policy has the most direct impact on women serving in the Army and Marine Corps, as the Navy and Air Force have already opened up almost all positions to women. As stated in DOD's report to Congress ``the Department of Defense is committed to removing all barriers that would prevent servicemembers from rising to the highest level of responsibility that their talents and capabilities warrant.'' With this new step forward, what are DOD's future plans for eliminating all of the barriers to our servicewomen? Secretary Panetta. The Direct Ground Combat Assignment policy prohibits the assignment of women to certain units and occupational specialties. As documented in the Military Leadership Diversity Commission findings, changes to DOD policies will require time to implement fully. There are serious practical barriers, which if not approached in a deliberate manner, could adversely impact the health of our servicemembers and degrade mission accomplishment. Based on opening of the new positions to women, DOD will assess the direct ground combat unit assignment prohibition to inform future policy decisions. Additionally, DOD will review development of gender-neutral physical standards for occupational specialties. I have directed the Services to report back to me on their assessment of these newly opened positions in 6 months with an assessment of additional positions that can be opened and barriers to opening additional positions to qualified women. 97. Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Panetta, the Coast Guard currently allows women to serve in all career fields. Could this be a model for the other branches of Service? Secretary Panetta. As the mission of each of the Services is significantly different, so are the elements of their specific position restrictions. Additionally, there is a wide variance among the Services in the number of occupations closed to women. Given the unique environment of military service, DOD is working to eliminate barriers with the goal of allowing all servicemembers to serve in any capacity, based on their ability and qualifications, and not constrained by gender restrictive policies. HAZING IN THE MILITARY 98. Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Panetta, over the last year, there have been several high-profile cases of hazing in the military, including those of Marine Lance Corporal Harry Lew, Army Private Danny Chen, and allegedly Marine Private Hamson McPherson, Jr. In the cases I highlighted, the hazing victim committed suicide immediately following a hazing incident. In the past month, both the Army and Marine Corps issued statements reinforcing their policy against hazing in their respective Service. Additionally, last week the Navy discharged eight sailors after video surfaced of a hazing incident aboard a Navy ship. What steps has DOD as a whole taken to address this issue and ensure that all types of hazing cease to occur in our military? Secretary Panetta. DOD takes hazing very seriously. As a result, we are examining responsive courses of action in three areas: (1) a reiteration of existing policy prohibitions of hazing across the chain of command; (2) increased emphasis in training; and (3) new reporting options. These proposed actions are all designed to improve our ability to prevent, identify, and take immediate action to address hazing before it leads to serious consequences. DOD's policy prohibiting hazing is unambiguous, and Service leaders have clearly stated that they take incidents of hazing very seriously. The following recent leadership statements reiterate that hazing is contrary to good order and discipline and is unacceptable behavior: the Secretary of Defense's message of December 2011, the Secretary of the Army's tri-signed message of January 2012, and the Marine Administrative Messages and the revised Marine Corps Order 1700.28A of February 2012. Leadership at all levels will continue to emphasize to subordinates that such behavior will not be tolerated. Second, DOD is examining methods of improving training to prevent, identify, and provide direction on how to respond to possible incidents of hazing. We are evaluating options including: raising awareness of both existing hazing policy and the associated offenses under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), training to identify leading indicators and to prevent or stop incidents from escalating, training resiliency, training peer groups, and emphasizing this issue at training courses administered by the Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute (DEOMI). Third, DOD is considering options to identify hazing distinctly in surveys and reporting mechanisms. Potential courses of action in this area include: adding hazing to the Services' Serious Incident Report thresholds, adding hazing to law enforcement reporting codes, identifying reported incidents of hazing in UCMJ cases, Inspector General hotlines and databases, Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office's Defense Sexual Assault Incident Database, the DEOMI Organizational Climate Survey, Defense Manpower Data Center Status of Forces Survey, and Services' peer programs. 99. Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Panetta, given the remote locations of two aforementioned hazing cases, what systems are in place to protect a victim of hazing when their chain of command is either the perpetrator of the hazing or implicit to the acts of hazing? Secretary Panetta. The military chain of command is designed to function in remote locations. A fundamental function of the military chain of command is communication. Just as the command channel transmits orders from higher to lower levels, the command channel also extends upward to communicate official matters from subordinate to senior. If a servicemember believes he or she has been wronged by his or her superior, then the servicemember has a right to communicate the problem, or grievance, through formal or informal processes. Each Service has formal complaint procedures to bring issues to the attention of commander. The Services train their members in complaint and problem solving procedures as part of Initial Entry Training. For example, Article 138 (the right to request redress of grievances from a superior) procedures are explained to an Active Duty servicemember within 14 days after the member's initial entrance on Active Duty, again after completing 6 months of Active Duty, and again at the time when the member reenlists. Protecting servicemembers is also a fundamental function of the chain of command. If the chain of command believes that a servicemember may be at risk of retaliation, the chain of command may immediately apply administrative or operational procedures, including reassignment or removal of the victim to a safer location. In less isolated locations, servicemembers have several avenues to highlight complaints to personnel and offices other than their chain of command. These include: the Office of the Inspector General hotlines, legal assistance attorney, or law enforcement. 100. Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Panetta, since the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell almost 6 months ago, gay and lesbian servicemembers have been serving openly without fear of discharge. This was a wonderful achievement for our military, and I commend DOD for continually reiterating its commitment that gay and lesbian servicemembers will be treated with respect and dignity. Are there plans for DOD to formally add sexual orientation to the DOD Human Goals Charter? Secretary Panetta. All servicemembers, regardless of sexual orientation, are entitled to an environment free from personal, social, or institutional barriers that prevent them from rising to the highest level of responsibility possible, dependent only on individual talent and diligence. Harassment or abuse based on sexual orientation is unacceptable and will be dealt with through command or Inspector General channels. Therefore, there are no plans to add sexual orientation as a class under the Military Equal Opportunity program, nor to the DOD's Human Goals Charter. Servicemembers will continue to be treated equally, regardless of sexual orientation. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator John McCain IRAQ INSTABILITY 101. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, in your opinion, is al Qaeda a significant military threat in Iraq? General Dempsey. Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) does not have the capacity to overthrow the Government of Iraq, but the group has significant capabilities to strike Iraqi Government targets, including Iraqi Security Forces, as well as Shia civilians. AQI claims daily small- scale assassination attacks, primarily using small arms and magnetically-attached bombs. These attacks suggest an increase in attack capability following U.S. force withdrawal. We anticipate AQI will maintain a heightened operational tempo in 2012, absent sustained increase in Iraqi counterterrorism pressure. Since the conclusion of Operation New Dawn in late 2011, AQI has claimed responsibility for multiple coordinated suicide and vehicle-borne IED attacks, including December attacks across Baghdad and January and March attacks throughout multiple Iraqi provinces. 102. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, can you assess the threat posed by AQI, and whether that threat is growing or diminishing? General Dempsey. The threat from AQI has increased since the conclusion of Operation New Dawn in late 2011 and is growing. The absence of sustained effective counterterrorism pressure has allowed AQI to maintain an increased operational tempo inside Iraq. Although AQI primarily focuses attacks against the Iraqi Government, the group remains an active member of the broader al Qaeda associated movement and is committed to projecting its influence outside Iraq as part of its long-term strategy. The United States and Europe are standing targets for potential AQI attacks and are a recurring theme in its public statements. On 25 January, AQI indicated publicly it would strike the United States abroad now that U.S. forces have departed Iraq--an allusion similarly made in AQI's August 2011 video eulogy for al Qaeda leader Osama bin Ladin. U.S. FORCE LEVELS IN AFGHANISTAN 103. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, the administration's announcement to end combat operations in Afghanistan in 2013 sends exactly the wrong signal to our friends and enemies in this conflict. It continues the administration's policy of publicly telegraphing exit plans in a way that fundamentally undermines our overall strategy and our determination to succeed. What incentive can the Taliban possibly have to negotiate meaningfully with the Afghanistan Government or with us when they know that the United States is leaving regardless? Secretary Panetta. In 2013, coalition forces will continue to transition security responsibilities to the ANSF, and will assume a supporting role as part of the Security Force Assistance strategy. Coalition forces will continue to operate side-by-side with their ANSF counterparts while providing key enabler support to combat insurgent threats. Coalition forces' transition to a supporting role in Afghanistan is a critical and necessary step toward mission accomplishment. Doing this with less coalition combat power on the ground will increase ANSF confidence and lead to their success while reducing insurgent capacity. As the ANSF grows in capacity, capability, and confidence, fewer coalition forces will be required. At the end of 2014, U.S. forces will complete their drawdown and end combat operations; however the U.S. Government will continue to support the ANSF. The Strategic Partnership Agreement, which is currently under negotiation, will specify the U.S. role in Afghanistan after 2014, and outline the U.S. Government's long-term commitment to Afghanistan. 104. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, reportedly, the top military commander in Afghanistan privately recommended holding off new U.S. troop reductions until 2014. Is this true and, if so, why did you decide to announce a plan that does not take the views of our military commanders into account? Secretary Panetta. I know of no such private recommendation concerning U.S. forces reductions. The force reductions that have occurred and will occur are part of the recovery of the U.S. surge forces, first ordered into Afghanistan at the time of the President's 2009 West Point speech. DOD's recommendations concerning these reductions as well as future force reductions will be made in full cooperation with the Commander, U.S. Forces-Afghanistan. His recommendations will be key to any decision regarding U.S. force strength. 105. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, exactly what conditions on the ground will be assessed to determine the pace of combat force reductions? Secretary Panetta. The campaign plan calls for several conditions to be met before completion of the transition in Afghanistan. The ability of the Afghanistan National Security Forces (ANSF) to provide suitable and sustainable security for a given area will be a key factor in determining U.S. and coalition forces presence. 106. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, in your opinion, what is the military value of announcing a U.S. combat force withdrawal schedule as it pertains to the operations of the Taliban? General Dempsey. The administration stated we will reduce 23,000 additional troops by October 2012, thereby fully recovering the surge force ordered by the President at his December 2009 West Point speech. Beyond the surge force, we have not specifically laid out the timeline of further reductions as these will be based on conditions on the ground. We believe the reductions that have been planned support our goal of transitioning lead for security to ANSF. Transitioning security lead will be an orderly process and will ensure the ANSF can retain the hard fought security gains even in the most contested areas of the country. The transition must signal to the Taliban that there will be a capable, indigenous force that will maintain security for the long- term. 107. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, wouldn't quickly cutting U.S. troop levels below 68,000 make it harder to clear and hold insurgent havens and complicate efforts to protect supply lines and bases ahead of the scheduled 2014 handover? General Dempsey. General Allen presented the plan to recover the 33,000 member surge force to the President, which will bring the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan to 68,000. The plan for further reductions will be based on conditions on the ground. There are several initiatives in place that will serve to counter insurgent havens and protect supply lines. Developing a capable and sustainable ANSF will provide long-term security for Afghanistan. Pursuing programs such as the Afghan Local Police will serve to maintain security gains, and building the Afghan Public Protection Force will provide security at bases and along supply routes. 108. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, is there a risk of a troop withdrawal below 68,000 before 2014 negatively affecting the rapid- response capabilities that now allow the military to evacuate wounded soldiers to combat hospitals within 1 hour of their injuries? General Dempsey. We currently plan on drawing down to 68,000 with no further plans to go below 68,000 until conditions on the ground allow. Regardless of the number of boots-on-the-ground, enablers such as medical evacuation (MEDEVAC) will be of key importance not only to U.S. troops, but our coalition partners as well. In February, MEDEVAC response times were well below 1 hour in 90 percent of operations. SEQUESTRATION 109. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, as you may know, the President's proposal to address sequestration with an alternative of tax increases and entitlement adjustments may not make it through Congress. Other than this proposal, this budget proposal does not account for the current spending cap imposed by sequestration for defense programs in fiscal year 2013. You have described the consequences of sequestration as catastrophic. Exactly how would these consequences be catastrophic? Please be specific. Secretary Panetta. DOD is concerned that the sequestration process would have significant consequences due to the uncertainty surrounding the process and the rigid formula which Congress has prescribed for its application. Assuming the fiscal year 2013 Defense Appropriations Act Conference Report contains language similar to the Joint Explanatory Statement of the Committee of Conference accompanying Division A-DOD Appropriations Act, 2012, DOD would be forced to reduce each line item within each procurement appropriation by the same percentage and each program element within each research and development appropriation by the same percentage. This percentage would be calculated based on the total budgetary resources, primarily the enacted fiscal year 2013 appropriation and any unobligated balances carried forward at the end of fiscal year 2012. Some obvious examples of the problems this method would cause are found in line items such as those for a ship, where it is not feasible to buy a fraction of a ship, or in a line item funding a multiyear contract where a fraction of the funding would not be sufficient to pay the negotiated cost of the multiyear contract. With over 1,500 individual line items in these accounts, DOD could not fix all of these issues with the transfer authority that Congress typically provides; this would leave broken programs across DOD. Additionally, sequestration would force an immediate reduction in our operation and maintenance accounts which could damage readiness. Funding provided for OCO is also not excluded from sequestration. 110. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, will you exempt military personnel from sequestration? Secretary Panetta. The President's budget makes the necessary budget constrictions to avoid devastating DOD through sequestration. If sequestration becomes an inevitability, DOD will evaluate all options available to comply with the law. 111. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, when will you provide to Congress a detailed impact of sequester on the fiscal year 2013 budget? Secretary Panetta. Congress should enact comprehensive, balanced deficit reduction legislation that avoids sequestration. The President's budget offers one path for doing so. If and when necessary, the administration will address important technical questions concerning sequestration. If there were to be a sequester, a detailed impact of sequester could not be provided until we know what the actual funding level would be for fiscal year 2013 by account and program. 112. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, when will the Military Services be able to provide Congress with a list of programs and accounts to be reduced or terminated as a result of imposing sequestration caps for the fiscal year 2014 budget? Secretary Panetta. The fiscal year 2014 budget will be developed using DOD's Planning, Programming, Budgeting, and Execution process. This process will be implemented in coordination with the White House and OMB. Any changes to our budget required by revised caps on the defense budget will be developed through this process and delivered to Congress in February 2013. 113. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, in your opinion, what impact will the cuts have on our ability to carry out operational plans in support of national security interests around the world? General Dempsey. The across-the-board cuts called for by sequestration would pose unacceptable risk in the execution of operational plans. These cuts would significantly reduce military readiness, investment, and force structure, hollowing the force and degrading U.S. military power. 114. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, will you provide the President with an operational risk assessment on the impact of sequestration before the end of the fiscal year? General Dempsey. All strategies and their associated budgets carry some risk, but sequestration goes beyond the level of acceptable risk. Sequestration would likely result in a smaller force structure that is ill-equipped, ill-trained, and ill-prepared to meet future challenges. Because of its wide-ranging impact on the health of the force, sequestration would require a complete reevaluation of our defense strategy and priorities to determine the true operational risks involved. 115. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, will you also provide this assessment to Congress so that it will be available to inform debate on the issue? General Dempsey. All strategies and their associated budgets carry some risk, but sequestration goes beyond the level of acceptable risk. Sequestration would likely result in a smaller force structure that is ill-equipped, ill-trained, and ill-prepared to meet future challenges. Because of its wide-ranging impact on the health of the force, sequestration would require a complete reevaluation of our defense strategy and priorities to determine the true operational risks involved. 116. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, the President has indicated that he will veto any legislation that undoes sequestration without tax increases. Have you raised your concerns on this matter to the President? General Dempsey. The administration and the military and civilian leadership of DOD are united behind the strategy and budget that we have presented. Sequestration, however, would subject DOD to roughly another $500 billion in cuts across all accounts and would hollow out the force, driving unacceptable risk to national defense. 117. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, do you support proposed congressional legislation to protect defense accounts from being affected by sequestration? General Dempsey. The administration and the military and civilian leadership of DOD are united behind the strategy and budget that we have presented. Sequestration, however, would clearly pose unacceptable risk by significantly reducing U.S. military readiness, investment, and force structure, hollowing the force and degrading U.S. military power. We will continue to work with OMB and Congress to properly resource the capability to defend our Nation and our allies. 118. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, the BCA in August 2011 did not actually mandate a specific reduction to defense budgets of $487 billion over 10 years. The administration stated on July 31, 2011, that: ``The deal puts us on track to cut $350 billion from the defense budget over 10 years. These reductions will be implemented based on the outcome of a review of our missions, roles, and capabilities that will reflect the President's commitment to protecting our national security.'' The reduction of $487 billion in defense budgets was provided to you by OMB in November 2011 after imposing an arbitrary 10 percent reduction to all Federal agencies. The administration's goal was for more than half of the first tranche of reductions in total discretionary spending ($917 billion) imposed by the BCA caps to come from the national security accounts. Given the significant increase to the risk to our national security from the cuts to military personnel end strength and force structure, why do you believe a $487 billion reduction is acceptable to incur? Secretary Panetta. The defense budget cuts we are absorbing are difficult but manageable. Specific reductions were guided by a comprehensive DOD strategic review which identified missions and capabilities essential to safeguarding U.S. and allied security interests in light of the most likely challenges posed by the future global environment. While U.S. Armed Forces will be smaller in number, we will ensure that they are ready, agile, flexible, and capable forces, with a forward presence that positions them to respond quickly in the event of threats or contingencies. The budget also preserves or enhances investments in key areas of continuing urgency, such as counterterrorism efforts and counter WMD, and areas that will grow in prominence in coming years, such as space, cyber, and missile defense. 119. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, did you have an opportunity to advocate to the OMB or the President for a smaller reduction than $487 billion in cuts over 10 years? Secretary Panetta. The fiscal year 2013 budget reflects the results of a comprehensive DOD strategic review which identified missions and capabilities essential to safeguarding U.S. and allied security interests in light of the most likely challenges posed by the future global environment. This strategic shift would have occurred regardless of the Nation's fical situation. DOD's most senior leaders led the review, which included extensive engagement by the National Security Staff and the President. Given the size and mandatory missions of the other national security agencies, the President was limited in making significant funding allocations among agencies within the security category cap imposed by the BCA. DOD employed a strategy-based process in formulating its fiscal year 2013 budget request. OMB and the White House were represented throughout the process. The budget resulting from this process is adequate to meet our current requirements. 120. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, aside from the issue of sequestration, do you anticipate that DOD will be asked by this administration to cut defense budgets even deeper than you have proposed in the fiscal year 2013 FYDP or deeper than the $487 billion in cuts you have proposed over the next 10 years? Secretary Panetta. We currently do not anticipate a further reduction in defense spending in future budgets, provided Congress enacts a deficit reduction package and avoids sequestration and the further impact of the BCA. If no action is taken to change the provisions of the BCA, DOD's 2014 budget would be required to be reduced further to meet the revised security limit provided in the Act. The fiscal year 2013 President's budget reflects the administration's national defense plan for the next 10 years. The plan calls for DOD's base budget to grow, albeit slowly, over that period. ASIA-PACIFIC REGION 121. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, on February 8, 2012, the Governments of the United States and Japan issued a joint statement on the U.S. strategic review of its defense posture in Asia. The two governments have officially started discussions to change the terms the 2006 agreement. What is the new plan and timeline for the relocation of marines from Okinawa? Secretary Panetta. Since February, we have been engaged in intensive discussions with the Government of Japan regarding U.S. plans to relocate some U.S. marines from Okinawa to Guam. The size of the U.S. Marine Corps force we establish on Guam will be smaller than previously planned, and this change will be made in the context of our overall laydown of Marine Corps forces in the Asia-Pacific region. The new plan and timeline is pending the outcome of our current discussions with the Government of Japan and the completion of necessary environmental studies. 122. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, what are DOD's estimates for costs to build facilities at new locations? Secretary Panetta. The Navy has provided the response via a classified briefing to Senate Armed Services Committee staff. 123. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, are all of these costs included in the current budget or the FYDP? Secretary Panetta. No. The Marine Corps continues to generate, revise, and analyze projected costs associated with Marine Corps force posture revision and bilateral negotiations. As outlined in section 2207 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012, we will present a master plan for construction once completed. 124. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, how is the President's strategic direction to rebalance toward the Asia-Pacific region actually reflected in the budget proposal for fiscal year 2013? Secretary Panetta. The fiscal year 2013 budget request protects and, in some cases, increases investments that are critical to our ability to rebalance toward the Asia-Pacific region, to include our ability to project power. For instance, this budget funds the development of next-generation bomber and new aerial refueling aircraft. Additionally, the Navy will invest in a design for Virginia- class submarines that will allow these submarines to carry significantly more cruise missiles, and potentially provide an undersea conventional prompt strike capability. This budget also invests resources in increasing stocks of our most capable cruise missiles; purchasing advanced maritime patrol aircraft; upgrading avionics and communications systems in our current bomber fleet; and enhancing capabilities in space, cyber, electronic warfare, missile defense, and ISR systems. The strategy envisions more elements of the Joint Force postured forward in the Asia-Pacific region--reinforcing our stabilizing and deterrence presence in the region, as well as increasing potential combat power. The budget request funds the rotational deployment of marines and U.S. Air Force aircraft to Australia and the potential for rotational deployment of Littoral Combat Ships to Singapore. The Navy will also rebalance its fleet so that a greater percentage is in the Pacific, and all the Services will continue to maintain significant force structure in the region as they look to increase interaction with allies and partners. 125. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, since announced plans call for Marine Corps forces to rotate to Australia or Guam, 8,700 marines and their families will be leaving Okinawa to be stationed somewhere else--where will they go? Secretary Panetta. Many of the marines based in Okinawa are rotational. These marines deploy to Okinawa unaccompanied under the Unit Deployment Program (UDP). Their family members remain behind at the unit's home base, either in Hawaii or CONUS. Under DOD's current plan, some of these UDP units will continue to deploy to Okinawa, some will deploy to Guam, and others will rotate through Australia. These rotational forces will be supported by small headquarters and logistics elements that will be permanently stationed at these locations and may be accompanied by their families. The planned numbers of marines and their family members at each location is currently under review and has not been finalized. 126. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, since the U.S. Government has signaled its intent to delink tangible progress on the construction of a replacement facility for Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Futenma on Okinawa from other actions to relocate marines from bases in the southern part of Okinawa, what is DOD's plan for the future of the MCAS Futenma? Secretary Panetta. The February 8, 2012, U.S.-Japan Joint Statement confirmed the continued mutual support for the current Futenma Replacement Facility (FRF) plan as the only viable alternative to continued operation of MCAS Futenma. Recognizing that even under the best scenario, the realization of that plan is several years away, we are currently discussing with the Government of Japan conditions under which they can contribute to the sustainment of operations at MCAS Futenma until the FRF is complete. 127. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, will DOD abide by the requirements in section 2207 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012? Secretary Panetta. We will abide by the requirements in section 2207 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012. I look forward to the opportunity to update the committee on our progress for these requirements later in the year. NAVY FORCE STRUCTURE REDUCTIONS 128. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, although DOD's new Defense Strategic Guidance emphasizes a rebalance to the Asia-Pacific region--predominantly a maritime theater--the administration's plan calls for the Navy to retire seven cruisers and two other major amphibious ships needed by the Marine Corps earlier than planned. In addition, the administration plans to delay buying a large-deck amphibious ship, a Virginia-class attack submarine, two Littoral Combat Ships, and eight high-speed transport vessels. What effect will fewer cruisers, submarines, and amphibious ships have in responding to crises in the Asia-Pacific theater--especially a large- scale one, with an equal or near-equal peer? Secretary Panetta. While the fleet size will fall slightly in the next few years, it will return to its current level by the end of the FYDP and even grow slightly into the early 2020s. The Navy will continue to prioritize readiness, and our fiscal year 2013 budget submission fully funds ship maintenance and midlife modernization periods. We are also investing in shipbuilding and aircraft construction to ensure that the Navy will evolve to remain the world's preeminent maritime force in the face of emerging threats and our shipbuilding and aircraft construction investments form the foundation of the future fleet. In developing our aircraft and ship procurement plans, we focused on three approaches: sustaining serial production of today's proven platforms, rapidly fielding new platforms in development, and improving the capability of today's platforms through new payloads of weapons, sensors, and unmanned vehicles. The Navy can meet the Defense Strategic Guidance with the current and projected force structure provided in the Navy's President's budget submission for 2013. Consistent with the Defense Strategic Guidance, the Navy will posture continuous, credible combat power in the Western Pacific and the Arabian Gulf/Indian Ocean to protect our vital interests, assure friends and allies, and deter potential adversaries. Naval forces remain flexible and agile, able to swing rapidly in response to emergent high priority requirements in other theaters, as well as to surge from U.S. homeports in the event of crises. The Navy can meet these challenges under our current operational tempo and deployment lengths. General Dempsey. Specific resourcing decisions were made through a comprehensive strategic review that included detailed analysis by the Joint Staff, the Services, and OSD. These decisions were made with serious consideration of the risk and our ability to mitigate the risk by balancing fleet forces across the globe. Planned naval force structure maintains the ability to conduct a large-scale naval campaign in one region while denying the objectives of an opportunistic aggressor in a second region. The strategic review and long-range shipbuilding plan accepted risk in generating the 30 operationally available ships necessary to conduct a two-Marine Expeditionary Brigade forcible entry operation, but lowered risk by building to an average active inventory of 32 amphibious ships in the long-range shipbuilding plan. The 21st Century Battle Force will be informed by the completion of a formal Force Structure Assessment and the ongoing DOD review of operational plans for potential regional contingencies. 129. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the Marine Corps has a standing requirement for 38 amphibious ships to support its amphibious assault mission, which has not changed as a result of the new Defense Strategic Guidance. The Marine Corps and the Navy have accepted risk by allowing the number of amphibious ships to remain at 33. Further reductions below 33 amphibious ships is inconsistent with the Marine Corps mission to maintain a viable amphibious assault capability and is particularly unjustified with a renewed focus on a rotational presence in the Asia-Pacific region. Please describe how decommissioning ships early and delays in buying new ships--as proposed in the proposed budget request--is consistent with: (1) the President's new Defense Strategic Guidance; and (2) the maritime mobility needs of the Pacific and the forces needed to oppose anti-access area denial strategies in the Asia-Pacific region, including China. Secretary Panetta. The decision to decommission seven Ticonderoga- class cruisers and two amphibious ships was made to ensure sufficient resources were available for readiness while maintaining the proper mix of capability in the battle force in a fiscally constrained environment. The Navy selected ships for decommissioning based on an analysis of the costs required to sustain their material condition and update their combat capability. The selected ships had little or no previous modernization completed, were the oldest ships in their class and would become increasingly expensive to maintain, operate, and upgrade to remain relevant to evolving threats. The Navy has certified to the Secretary of Defense that we will meet the fiscal year 2013 Global Force Management Allocation Plan and requirements in the Defense Strategic Guidance. From fiscal year 2013 through fiscal year 2020, the Navy ship inventory and extrapolated force presence will increase in the Asia-Pacific and Arabian Gulf regions. General Dempsey. Resourcing decisions were made through a comprehensive strategic review that was aligned to the President's strategic guidance. The review included detailed analysis by the Joint Staff, the Services, and OSD. The strategic review focused primarily on sustaining Amphibious Readiness Groups and Marine Expeditionary Units forward in the Western Pacific and Arabian Gulf in a crisis response role. It took risk in generating the 30 operationally available ships necessary to conduct a two-Marine Expeditionary Brigade forcible entry operation. To lower risk, the long-range shipbuilding plan strives to maintain an average active inventory of 32 amphibious ships. EARMARKS IN THE DEFENSE BILL 130. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, the Fiscal Year 2012 Defense Appropriations Bill contained approximately 100 items and slush funds that were neither requested by DOD nor authorized in the NDAA. These programs, earmarked by the Appropriations Committees, totaled over $3.5 billion. The proposed reductions of $487 billion over 10 years does not include rolling back the earmarks that were not top DOD priorities. Since you are restricted from reprogramming earmarked funds to higher DOD priorities by provisions in Defense Appropriations bills that require you to carry out the earmark at the exact levels of funding provided, and given the fiscal constraints you are under, will you work with me to remove these provisions from future appropriations bills in order to provide the flexibility to spend funds on urgent, unforeseen requirements actually validated by DOD? Secretary Panetta. DOD's position is that the President's budget requests what is required to meet our mission requirements each year. Upon enactment of an appropriations act, DOD executes the enacted programs, complying with reprogramming and transfer authorities. 131. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, if you are presented a request for a formal position on a particular spending item of this nature, can I expect a firm and unequivocal position from you stating why you either oppose or support the spending? Secretary Panetta. Yes, DOD leaders and I are always prepared to state opposition to unrequested changes to the President's budget because these changes divert funding from DOD's most pressing requirements, as detailed in the budget. JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER 132. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, how well the JSF program does under its contract for the fourth block of low-rate initial production (LRIP-4) aircraft by the end of the year was supposed to indicate how much the program is on track. But, with only about 50 percent of that work completed to date, we are already expecting a total overrun (including concurrency costs) of almost $500 million. In addition, on November 29, 2011, DOD's F-35 JSF Concurrency Quick Look Report called for serious reconsideration of procurement and production planning. And, just a few weeks ago, DOD's Chief Operational Tester reported that a team consisting of the Services' operational test agencies found that the F-35 program is not on track to meeting operational effectiveness or operational suitability requirements. I know we don't pay for all of the projected overrun on Lot 4, but with that estimate and the assessments I just described, how can taxpayers be confident that we're headed in the right direction? Secretary Panetta. The strategic and budget reviews carried out last fall reaffirmed the importance of the JSF program to the future joint force. A number of steps were taken to align the program with the outcomes of the these reviews of the Quick Look Report, including the decision to slow the production ramp rate and align it with advances in program maturity. Control of production costs is being achieved in part by movement from cost-plus to fixed-price-type contracts and developmental maturity progress. The F-35 program team achieved a number of accomplishments over the past year, including the delivery of 13 aircraft and completion of initial F-35B sea trials on the USS Wasp. The program completed F-35C static structural testing and improved the schedule and cost performance of assembled wings and forward fuselage deliveries to the production line mate station. Production F-35A and F- 35B have started Local Area Flights at Eglin AFB. The F-35 LRIP Lot 4 contracts were negotiated as fixed-price incentive-fee (firm target)-type contracts. The prime contractor, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company (LM Aero), is projected to overrun LRIP 4 costs by approximately 7 percent. This overrun percentage is approximately half the overrun experienced on the F-35 LRIP Lots 1 to 3 cost-reimbursement-type contracts. On the LRIP Lot 4 contracts, overrun costs on the aircraft and engines are shared equally between the Government and the contractor until the overrun exceeds 20 percent of the target cost, at which point the contractor is responsible for all additional overrun costs. Overall, there is much work ahead, but, through the multiple successful reviews and corresponding adjustments in the past year, I believe DOD has put the program on sound footing for the future. DOD's assessments over the past year give me reason to believe the basic aircraft designs are sound and will deliver. The remaining development is focused on testing and integration. Schedule and resource adjustments made to the remaining development program underpin a realistic plan to deliver the required capability. While there is still risk in the program, I have confidence in the resilience of the plan to absorb expected further learning and discovery and stay on track as long as it remains sufficiently resourced. 133. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, why, given these recent developments, did you believe that lifting the F-35B from probation 1 year early was appropriate? Secretary Panetta. In January 2011, Secretary Gates placed the F- 35B on what he referred to as probationary status because it was experiencing significant technical issues. F-35B testing was decoupled from the other two variants, allowing the program to increase focus on F-35B-specific issues while testing on the other variants progressed. Of the five specific technical issues identified by Secretary Gates in 2011, two have been resolved and three have temporary fixes in place while efforts to develop permanent solutions are ongoing. All three variants improved their testing performance in 2011. In particular, the F-35B successfully completed more flights (333 completed/293 planned) and more test points (2,636 completed/2,272 planned) than planned. I made the decision to lift probation of the F-35B because it is now demonstrating development, test, and production maturity comparable to and not substantively different from the other variants. As with the other variants, some additional technical issues have been identified on the F-35B since probation began; however, these are consistent with the kinds of issues to be expected in a development program. 134. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, is there a Plan B for the F-35 JSF if both procurement and sustainment costs are not controlled and if so, what could those options be? Secretary Panetta. Currently, we are focused on reducing procurement and sustainment costs. The Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics (USD(AT&L)) has directed procurement affordability targets that will help ensure that, as the F- 35 program reaches the point that it is ready for full-rate production, DOD will be able to afford to procure the quantities it needs. Similarly, the USD(AT&L) established sustainment affordability targets that will allow us to communicate expectations to the contractor so we can control the cost to operate each aircraft, the annual costs to the Services, and how much investment will be required over the total life cycle of the F-35 program. These affordability targets, and more importantly the actual costs that we realize over the coming years, will provide us a better understanding of whether we can afford to buy, fly, and sustain the current total requirement. If we are unable to reach affordable F-35 procurement and sustainment costs, our first option would be to reduce the total planned procurement quantities. Currently, the total planned procurement for DOD is 2,443 F-35 aircraft. If the Services and DOD determine that this plan is unaffordable, we would have to look at a reduction to the total buy that is affordable. A reduction in the total procurement quantity would also reduce total sustainment costs. Any review of the total quantity would be conducted by assessing affordability projections and capability requirements. From a capability perspective, there is no alternative to the F-35. The fifth generation capabilities that the F-35 will provide are essential to accomplishing many of the primary missions identified in the National Security Strategy. An affordable F-35 program will allow DOD to replace legacy aircraft with fewer, more capable multi-role strike fighter aircraft well-suited to meet the leaner requirements of the new Defense Strategic Guidance. HEALTH CARE 135. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the budget proposes further TRICARE reforms which have been endorsed by senior military leaders. What are the risks to DOD--in budget and readiness terms--if Congress fails to enact the administration's proposed health care reforms? Secretary Panetta. If Congress does not provide us with needed support, DOD's new Defense Strategy Guidance will be at risk. Without the needed authority to implement these reforms, DOD will face further cuts in forces and investment to be consistent with the BCA. DOD's budget proposal already makes substantial reductions in the investment accounts, so further cuts might fall mostly on forces. This could mean cutting additional Active Duty and Reserve Forces by fiscal year 2017 to such an extent that DOD's ability to carry out the new Defense Strategic Guidance could be jeopardized. General Dempsey. If Congress fails to enact the proposed health care reforms, DOD will be forced to shoulder the increasing cost of military health care, likely at the expense of force structure and in modernization. DOD's budget proposal already makes substantial reductions in the investment accounts so further cuts could mean cutting additional Active Duty and Reserve Forces, which would impact DOD's ability to pursue the new Defense Strategic Guidance. 136. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what additional reforms are necessary to better manage the current and future costs of military health care benefits? Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey. DOD will continue to aggressively pursue all possible avenues to better manage the current and future costs of military health care. Changes in beneficiary cost- sharing represent only one of the key steps that we are taking to improve health care and reduce the rate of growth in health care costs. We are also employing other approaches, including: (1) Moving from healthcare to health, investing in initiatives that keep our people well while promoting healthy lifestyle; (2) maximizing internal efficiencies that reduce the administrative overhead of our military health system; and (3) reforming provider payments by responsibly paying private care providers and aligning with Medicare reimbursement levels, as required by law. CARE MANAGEMENT FOR WOUNDED WARRIORS 137. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, 5 years have passed since revelations by the press of substandard care management for wounded warriors at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center, which brought disgrace on our Nation and our Government. Since that time, many reforms have been instituted, and yet, according to recent testimony by the GAO, implementation of reforms intended to streamline the care management for the wounded, especially those transitioning to civilian life, continue to be plagued by bureaucratic turf battles between DOD and the VA, such that, according to GAO `` . . . the intended purpose of these programs--to better manage and facilitate care and services--may actually have the opposite effect . . . .'' What steps has DOD taken to respond to the recommendations of GAO, as well as the Wounded Warrior Care Coordination Summit, and numerous other studies to improve care management for the wounded? Secretary Panetta. First, in response to GAO's findings and recommendations in the March 2011 Report titled ``Federal Recovery Program Continues to Expand, but Faces Significant Challenges,'' a majority of them pertained to implementation and oversight of the VA's Federal Recovery Coordination Program. There are, however, two areas of the report that directly involve DOD: Duplication of case management efforts between VA and DOD Lack of access to equipment at installations Duplication of Case Management Efforts between VA and DOD DOD policy is that recovering servicemembers have the service of a Recovery Care Coordinator (RCC), and that some may have a Federal Recovery Coordinator (FRC) closer to when it is known that the servicemember will transition out of the military and become a veteran. The Service Wounded Warrior programs, in coordination with the Federal Recovery Coordination Program, have drafted policy to implement a referral process that is consistent with the Services desire to retain responsibility for their recovering servicemembers. Lack of Access to Equipment at Installations Currently, there are 11 FRCs located at 5 major military medical treatment facilities. These FRCs have designated workspaces and equipment access. Second, the Wounded Warrior Care Coordination Summit consisted of four chartered working groups, each focused on a key area: 1. Education and Employment 2. FRC/RCC Collaboration 3. In Pursuit of Excellence--Documenting Best Practices 4. Wounded Warrior Family Resilience Working group participants included multiple Federal agencies (VA, Department of Labor, DOD's Offices of Wounded Warrior Care and Transition Policy (WWCTP), and Military Community and Family Policy (MCFP)), as well as representatives from each of the Military Services. Several recommendations are currently being carried out by the Recovery Coordination Program or its component programs. Additional recommendations are being carried out by other participating agencies. The outcomes of the Education and Employment Work Group were expected to be: the achievement of a comprehensive strategy to provide recovering servicemembers career-focused transition support early in their rehabilitation; development of policy and guidance, including the provision of resources when necessary; and establishment of outcome measures and synchronization and leveraging of existing efforts to ensure a consistent experience by all recovering servicemembers who seek education or employment opportunities. FRC/RCC collaboration resulted in five recommendations for better integration and synchronization across these two programs. All have been implemented as well as better communication among program leadership and participation in each other's program training venues. Recommendations of the Best Practices working group are being implemented with the goal of achieving a consistent experience for all recovering servicemembers across the continuum of care, including equal access to resources; and the adaptation of support services to meet the potential changing needs of servicemembers and families. The Wounded Warrior Family Resiliency Working Group came up with several recommendations, most of which are actively being implemented by the combined efforts of the two DOD offices, MCFP and WWCTP, charged with coordinating and executing these programs. 138. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, do you have confidence that the Senior Oversight Committee of DOD and VA is capable of strengthening and improving these systems of care for our wounded or is there a more efficient mechanism that should be established in its place? Secretary Panetta. Yes, there is a more efficient mechanism that has replaced the Senior Oversight Committee. On January 19, 2012, the Joint Executive Committee Co-Chairs, who are the DOD Under Secretary of Defense (Personnel & Readiness) and VA Deputy Secretary, agreed to consolidate the SOC and JEC forums based on the recommendation from the DOD Recovering Warrior Task Force. The new consolidated Joint Executive Committee was given the guidance to: Clearly articulate wounded, ill, and injured servicemember issues Include the appropriate level of senior leadership Maintain former Senior Oversight Committee Wounded, Ill, and Injured programs In order to maintain a high level of visibility, the membership of the new Joint Executive Committee now includes the Services Under Secretaries and Vice Chiefs, Special Operations Command, the DOD Comptroller, the ASDs for Health Affairs, and Reserve Affairs, and from the VA the Under Secretaries for Health and Benefits, Principal Deputy Under Secretary for Benefits, VA Assistant Secretaries for Information Technology, and Policy and Planning, among other senior level members. To ensure that systems of care for our wounded, ill, and injured are maintained, strengthened, and improved: All ongoing Senior Oversight Committee issues, programs, and initiatives have been identified and appropriately handed off to the Joint Executive Committee for continued oversight and support. In order to ensure any new and emerging recovery warrior issues are quickly and adequately addressed, a new joint Wounded, Ill, and Injured Subcommittee has been created under the Joint Executive Committee to oversee these matters. Emerging Wounded Warrior issues are now addressed bimonthly at Joint Executive Committee meeting and quarterly with DOD and VA Secretaries. The integration of DOD and VA into a single team under the Joint Executive Committee allows a world class continuum of care for our wounded, ill, and injured warriors in such areas as: Integrated Disability Evaluation System Caregivers Environmental/Toxic Exposures Integrated Mental Health Strategy Suicide Prevention Electronic Health Record Benefits Some of the accomplishments to date include: Increased sharing of health information between DOD and VA Implementation of new approaches to support patients, their families, and caregivers Development of new approaches to address suicide, Traumatic Brain Injury, and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder Developed and implemented a Disability Evaluation System pilot aimed toward one disability rating system administered by both DOD and VA Coordinated health care, rehabilitation, and delivery of services that resulted in facilitating the highest level of support ever to the wounded, ill, and injured Comprehensive legislative and public affairs efforts to keep servicemembers, veterans, family members, the public, DOD/VA leadership, and Congress informed of new developments in care non-competitive health care contracts 139. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, DOD is required by law to enter into sole source, non-competitive contracts with six commercial health plans, known as the Uniformed Services Family Health Plan (USFHP) that provide health care services to a small portion of DOD family members and retirees at a cost of approximately $1.2 billion per year. Do the contracts in effect today comply with the statutory requirement for cost neutrality? If not, why not? Secretary Panetta. Based on the most current data available to DOD (fiscal year 2011), the negotiated rates provided to the USFHP plans currently exceed the amounts mandated under Sec 726(b) of Public Law 104-201. Beneficiaries Under Age 65--For beneficiaries under the age 65, DOD estimates that the average cost per USFHP Prime enrollee was about 13 percent higher than the average cost per non-USFHP Prime enrollee, even after adjusting for both geography and age/gender mix differences. This cost difference is due to the fact that the fiscal year 2011 USFHP rates were based on fiscal year 2009 costs trended to fiscal year 2011. During the fiscal years 2009 to 2011 period, TRICARE Management Activity introduced the Outpatient Prospective Payment System (OPPS) rates which decreased non-USFHP Prime costs significantly. In addition, TRICARE Management Activity started to receive significant retail pharmacy rebates which also decreased the costs for Prime enrollees. As a result, costs for non-USFHP Prime enrollees increased more slowly from fiscal years 2009 to 2011 than projected. The USFHP rates incorporate the impact of pharmacy changes like OPPS and policy rebates on a lagged basis. As a result, the USFHP rates for future years will reflect these policy changes. Beneficiaries Age 65 and Over--For beneficiaries age 65 and over, with adjustments for geography or the age/gender mix, the USFHP costs per enrollee were about 29 percent higher than the costs of the average TRICARE For Life (TFL) beneficiary. The key reason for this 29 percent difference is that the fiscal year 2011 USFHP rates were based upon the costs of Medicare fee-for-service beneficiaries, rather than the costs of TFL beneficiaries. Now that reliable and accurate TFL data are available for both the DOD and Medicare portions of TFL beneficiary costs, the government has proposed to use actual TFL experience rather than non-DOD Medicare experience to calculate the fiscal year 2013 ceiling rates, which we expect will lead to a significant decrease in rates for this cohort. A second factor is that the fiscal year 2011 USFHP rates were based upon TRICARE pharmacy costs in fiscal year 2009. Since fiscal year 2009, DOD has started to receive large retail pharmacy rebates. These rebates are incorporated into the USFHP rates on a lagged basis. 140. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, please provide a comparison of the per beneficiary costs for those enrolled to the USFHP with: (1) those for whom DOD pays for comparable health benefits under TRICARE Prime for under age 65 beneficiaries under its competitively awarded TRICARE contracts; and (2) over 65 USFHP enrollees compared to Medicare/TFL. Secretary Panetta. After accounting for differences in both geography and the age/gender mix, the average USFHP cost per enrollee, both under and over 65, was higher than the average cost per non-USFHP Prime enrollee in fiscal year 2011. Due to ongoing contract negotiations, the exact differences are not provided above; however DOD is willing to provide additional data for the committee's use in a non- public forum. 141. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, if there is any further postponement of transition of future Medicare eligible enrollees to Medicare/TFL, what would be the impact on the DOD budget in fiscal year 2013 and over the FYDP? Secretary Panetta. The impact on the DOD budget would depend on the specific period of delayed transition, and whether a pattern of changing this date is perceived. The Medicare Eligible Retiree Health Care Fund (MERHCF) Board of Actuaries responsible for approving the methods and assumptions used to calculate the budget impact must adhere to professional standards, which requires consideration of historically-enacted legislative changes and the past practice or pattern of plan changes. If the Board determines a pattern of delay in the transition date, it will decide to change assumptions regarding the impact of the legislation that will result in a significant increase in cost for the DOD budget in required contributions to the MERHCF. Additionally, any delay in the effective date of the changes enacted last year would increase mandatory spending from the MERHCF during the period of delay. COST NEUTRALITY OF THE TRICARE PRIME BENEFIT 142. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, under current law, the TRICARE Prime benefit for retirees is required not to exceed the costs of civilian care obtained under TRICARE Standard. Does the cost of TRICARE Prime comply with current law for cost neutrality? If not, why not? Secretary Panetta. The Prime benefit is no longer cost neutral compared to Standard/Extra plans. Under current law, the TRICARE Prime is supposed to be cost neutral--that is, government costs for Prime should not exceed the government costs for TRICARE Standard. Section 731(c) of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 1994 required that the benefit that became known as TRICARE Prime ``shall be administered so that the costs incurred by the Secretary under the TRICARE program are no greater than the costs that would otherwise be incurred to provide health care to the members of the uniformed services and covered beneficiaries who participate in the TRICARE program.'' When TRICARE was implemented in 1996, the Prime enrollment fee was set at a level higher than the standard fee in order to: (1) offset the substantially reduced out-of-pocket costs, including the elimination of the Standard deductible, the near-total elimination of the 25 percent Standard inpatient co-pay, and the substantial reduction of outpatient co-pays; and (2) make Prime cost neutral to the government. Subsequent enactments regarding TRICARE for Active Duty family members have superseded the NDAA for Fiscal Year 1994 requirement for Active Duty family members, but not for Prime-eligible retirees. Over the intervening years, a significant disparity in the cost to government between Prime and Standard developed. This disparity was recognized in 2005 and resulted in proposals to adjust cost shares to both Prime and Standard/Extra. DOD was largely prohibited from changing fees and co-pays until fiscal year 2012. The net result is that Prime is not cost neutral in relation to the Standard/Extra plans. For a working retiree family of three, the cost to DOD of providing health care in fiscal year 2011: Prime--$13,442; Standard--$11,267. Prime enrollment fees or other cost-sharing would need to be adjusted to make Prime cost-neutral to Standard. 143. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, is cost neutrality an appropriate test, and if so, what steps should be taken to restore it? Secretary Panetta. Cost neutrality is a laudable goal and our efforts should try to move in that direction. However, we cannot get to complete cost neutrality without significantly increasing the cost shares under Prime above the levels proposed in the President's budget. The proposed increases in the Prime enrollment fee are one part. We also believe that increases in utilization management envisioned under the Patient Center Medical Home concept that we are implementing will bring the cost of Prime closer to Standard. FEDERAL CIVILIAN WORKFORCE 144. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, this budget requests a precipitous and dangerous drop in military end strength which I believe puts our Nation's security at risk. Why is there little or no reduction planned for DOD's Federal civilian workforce? Secretary Panetta. DOD's fiscal year 2013 budget reflects a balanced workforce that decreases overall spending on military end strength and DOD's Federal civilian workforce, as well as on contract services. It reflects our best judgment today and represents a carefully coordinated approach based on DOD's strategy and policy that balances operational needs and fiscal reality without placing national security and our overall defense posture at risk. Proposed reductions in the military personnel levels reflect declines in our current overseas commitments; revised strategy, posture, and operational planning; and changes to our force structure. Additionally, the budget request includes proposed civilian reductions that are proportional, as a percentage of the overall civilian workforce, to proposed reductions in the military's end strength. Reductions in civilian personnel are predominantly associated with ongoing organizational assessments and mission/function prioritization in an effort to reduce administrative workload. It is important to note that DOD's civilian workforce performs key enabling functions for the operating forces, such as critical training and preparation to ensure readiness, equipment modernization and reset, medical care, family support, and base operating and infrastructure services--all vital services that support our men and women in uniform and help meet the Nation's security needs. 145. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, what is the current policy for hiring new employees? Secretary Panetta. DOD fills its positions following Merit Systems Principles and Regulations developed by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM). Within these parameters, DOD strives to be a fair and equitable employer offering equal employment opportunity to all qualified citizens. Because of its size and the diversity of its missions, DOD uses a wide range of authorities to fill positions in both the Competitive and Excepted service in virtually every occupation imaginable. Our agencies hire applicants from the public and private sectors, and we place special emphasis on hiring veterans, military spouses, students, and people with disabilities. We strive to be innovative and responsive in our efforts to recruit and retain the best talent available to meet our mission objectives in supporting our warfighters, and appreciate the support we receive from Congress to further this effort. 146. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, why is the administration seeking a pay raise for Federal employees who, according to a January 30, 2012, report from the Congressional Budget Office, are compensated 16 percent higher than their private sector counterparts, and enjoy a 48 percent advantage in benefits? Secretary Panetta. The pay raise for civilians included in the budget request is not set by DOD, but rather is based on a government- wide determination by OPM on behalf of the President. With the current freeze on salary cost-of-living adjustments for Federal workers, the Federal Government's benefits package is a necessary factor in remaining competitive for a variety of occupations and locations. While the Federal Government may lead the market in the area of benefits, it still lags the market with regard to salaries for some occupations. It is important to note that DOD's civilian workforce performs key enabling functions for the operating forces, such as critical training and preparation to ensure readiness, equipment modernization and reset, medical care, family support, and base operating and infrastructure services--all vital services that support our men and women in uniform and help meet the Nation's security needs. Further salary freezes are not in the best interest of DOD and will have an adverse impact on readiness, mission capability, and could result in increased reliance on contracted services and increased fiscal obligations. ARMY AND MARINE CORPS DRAWDOWN 147. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, I am concerned that a rapid reduction in the end strength of the Army and the Marine Corps will degrade the readiness of the combat forces and break faith with an All- Volunteer Force that defeated the insurgency in Iraq, that continues to fight in Afghanistan, and may be called on again to defend this Nation against its enemies. I would like you to explain--with specificity, year-by-year--how you foresee the Army reducing its Active Duty strength by 70,000 soldiers in 5 years? General Dempsey. As part of the new Defense Strategic Guidance, the Army will downsize approximately 79,000 soldiers to 490,000 in the Active component, and will reduce its Reserve components by 9,000 from 358,200 to 350,200 in the Army National Guard and from 206,000 to 205,000 in the U.S. Army Reserve by the end of the FYDP. Temporary end strength increase for the Active component was authorized by Congress in 2009. By the end of September 2013, the Army will reduce the 22,000 temporary end strength increase and return back to a permanent Active component end strength of 547,400. Generally, the Army will reduce an average of 11,000 soldiers per year. 148. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, how do you envision achieving these cuts using the manpower management tools available to shape the force with incentives and early retirements? General Dempsey. The Army's preliminary strategy provides a high quality, mission-capable force, using precision, care, and compassion to achieve end strength reductions without jeopardizing readiness. A key precept of planning is that the Army will make the choices, to the greatest extent possible, on who will remain and who will separate from service. Although DOD's force reduction objectives include guidance to maximize the use of voluntary separations, the Army's intent is to apply lessons learned from the 1990s drawdown when the magnitude of the voluntary separations made it difficult for the Army to control the quality of those servicemembers choosing to separate. To ensure a quality force following the drawdown and maintain faith with soldiers, the Army intends to meet DOD's force reduction objectives by selectively offering voluntary incentives (such as Temporary Early Retirement Act) to soldiers whom the Army deems fully qualified but do not meet the highest standards for continued service. 149. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, do you have a plan to address the nondeployable population of our combat forces, such as about 25,000 Active Duty Army soldiers? General Dempsey. Over 10 years of persistent and protracted conflict has placed stress on the Army. The strain has increased the rate of nondeployers at latest arrival date or date of deployment in our BCT from 10 percent to 16 percent between fiscal year 2007 to fiscal year 2011. From a tactical perspective, commanders at all levels are actively engaged in identifying non-deployable soldiers and, in the case of temporary non-deployable conditions, linking the soldier with the requisite resources necessary to resolve the non-deployable condition. From a strategic perspective, the Army staff is focused on policy and implementation decisions necessary to reduce the non- deployer rates in our units and to gain better visibility on the health of the force. The Army established a Non-Deployable Campaign Plan in April 2011 to develop systemic and policy changes aimed at reducing this population. While we are only half way through fiscal year 2012 and there remain challenges with the units yet to deploy, we have seen a reduction to just fewer than 13 percent so far this year. Since medical issues continue to be the greatest contributor to non- deployables, we are focusing on the Disability Evaluation System to enhance, standardize, and establish measures of performance. 150. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, how do you envision Army leaders will accomplish this without demoralizing the force and breaking faith with soldiers who have sacrificed greatly? General Dempsey. The Army is a values-based organization. The basic values of dignity and respect were integral to its drawdown planning. First, the Army intends to use reduced accessions and minimize the number of currently serving soldiers being asked to leave the Service. Second, the Army will use our proven centralized selection board processes to identify both commissioned and NCOs with the greatest potential for continued service as it shapes the force by grade and specialty. Finally, commanders will be empowered to retain only the highest quality soldiers. When feasible, fully qualified soldiers identified as excess due to strength limitations will be afforded the option to volunteer for reclassification into a shortage skill. In lieu of involuntary separation, voluntary options (when applicable) will be afforded to fully-qualified soldiers targeted to leave the Service. REVERSIBILITY 151. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, I am concerned that returning to pre-September 11 personnel levels within 5 years may damage readiness and create structural problems within the Services, while subjecting military members to an economy that hardly is in a position to welcome them with open arms. You have indicated that ``the Army will retain more mid-grade officers and NCOs even as their overall end strength decreases to ensure we will have the structure and experienced leaders necessary to regrow the force quickly.'' This has been referred to as reversibility. I am concerned that at the basic infantry level, this will degrade combat capability over time. Can you explain what reversibility means and how it will be achieved? General Dempsey. The new Defense Strategic Guidance released in January 2012 notes that since we cannot predict how the strategic environment will evolve with absolute certainty, we need to manage the force in ways that protect its ability to regenerate capabilities should they be needed to meet future unforeseen demands. The strategy also notes that we need to retain intellectual capital and rank structure that can be utilized to expand key elements of the force. The Army is examining strategies, policies, and investments that would posture the Army to slow down and reverse drawdowns of Army end strength and formations, and regenerate end strength over the course of a number of years in response to a future crisis. This will involve reexamining the mix of elements in the Active and Reserve components, maintaining a strong National Guard and Army Reserve, retaining a healthy cadre of experienced noncommissioned and midgrade officers, and preserving the health and viability of the Nation's defense industrial base. 152. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, how will you avoid the repeat of the poorly executed drawdown of the 1990s, which slashed recruiting and first-term soldier strength, thus creating gaps that hurt the Army--in order to retain more mid-career personnel? General Dempsey. The Army's intent is to meet the fiscal year 2017 end strength targets with precision (by grade and skill) while maintaining a high level of readiness and capability with an All- Volunteer Force. We will minimize induced losses by lowering accessions without jeopardizing future Army requirements. We will not sacrifice our investment in leader development and will continue to shape policies to support the Army's leader development strategy. We will promote best-qualified soldiers to meet requirements. We will empower commanders with the ability to retain soldiers with the greatest potential for continued contributions. We will treat soldiers and their families (both those who stay and those who leave) fairly. The Army will target select NCOs (by means of a centralized selection process) for involuntary separation when their grade/skill is either projected over-strength or when promotion stagnation jeopardizes viable career development paths in select career fields. Drawdown of the force begins in fiscal year 2014 and continues over a 4-year period. To ensure we prevent talent loss and to retain those individuals with the greatest potential for future contributions, the Army will decide who stays and who leaves; offering voluntary separation options in lieu of involuntary separation when such authority exists. We will sequentially apply the levers of reduced accessions, selective retention, force shaping boards, and voluntary incentives to ensure that we retain high quality personnel as we achieve mandated end strengths. We will also pursue qualified soldiers for transition to the U.S. Army Reserve and National Guard where they can continue to serve. 153. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, would it not make more sense to plan for a 10-year, conditions-based plan or one that adheres to the original plan to reduce end strength by 49,000 soldiers? General Dempsey. As part of the new Defense Strategic Guidance, the Army will downsize approximately 79,000 soldiers to 490,000 in the Active component by the end of fiscal year 2017. Initial planning for the reduction noted three assumptions that must be achieved: (1) the drawdown in Iraq will continue and that it will be completed by December 31, 2011, (accomplished); (2) forces in Afghanistan will be drawn down in accordance with current administration policy (on track); and (3) Army forces will not be involved in a protracted conflict in the immediate future (not expected). The Army's deliberate and responsible drawdown plans will take into consideration operational demands and unit readiness. It will proceed at a pace necessary to ensure mission success and retain the flexibility to respond to unforeseen demands at a tempo that is predictable and sustainable for our All-Volunteer Force. After conducting extensive analysis, the Army concluded that maintaining end strength at 490,000 will meet the demands described in the new Defense Strategic Guidance. NUCLEAR WEAPONS COMPLEX FUNDING 154. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, last October you told the House Armed Services Committee that you opposed attempts by some to reduce the funding necessary for achieving the President's nuclear modernization plan. When asked about a possible cut by the Appropriations Committee, you stated: ``I think it is tremendously shortsighted if they reduce funds that are absolutely essential for modernization . . . if we aren't staying ahead of it, we jeopardize the security of this country. So, for that reason, I certainly would oppose any reductions with regards to the funding.'' The fiscal year 2013 budget for the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) makes a number of significant changes to the President's nuclear weapons complex modernization plan. I understand many within DOD, including STRATCOM, are opposed to these cuts. Do you still agree that a failure to honor the carefully crafted modernization plan risks, as you stated just 3 months ago, jeopardizing the security of this country? Secretary Panetta. Modernization efforts remain critical to ensuring a safe, secure, and effective deterrent for the long-term; it will take years of sustained funding and effort to achieve this goal. Infrastructure modernization, in particular, will offer opportunities to reduce the number of reserve warheads needed to hedge against a potential technical failure of a warhead type. The Nuclear Posture Review of 2010 and the reports to Congress, pursuant to section 1251 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2010 and section 1043 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012, contain detailed and well-supported modernization plans. Current fiscal realities, however, have driven DOD and NNSA to make difficult decisions in prioritizing plans and funding for these efforts, including the deferral or delay of programs and deliverables. Such decisions were made to allow the two departments to shift resources to certain projects and programs that meet the Nation's most pressing nuclear weapons requirements. We are confident that these decisions allow us to continue the necessary support to achieve the goal of maintaining a safe, secure, and effective deterrent, while also supporting the long-term commitment to modernization of the nuclear weapons enterprise. 2-YEAR DELAY OF THE SSBN(X) 155. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, I understand the budget proposes delaying the replacement ballistic missile submarine for 2 years and estimates doing so will save $4.3 billion. Given prior year statements from the Navy claiming that the schedule for procuring the 12 follow-on ballistic missile submarines is ``inextricably linked to legacy [i.e. Ohio-class] ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) retirements'' and that there is ``no leeway in this plan to allow a start or any delay in the procurement plan,'' I am interested in understanding why you now believe that a delay is possible? Secretary Panetta. To comply with the BCA, the 2-year delay defers and extends design efforts, freeing up $4.3 billion in the FYDP, as well as reduces the available SSBN force to 10 ships during the transition from the Ohio-class to the Ohio replacement. The absence of extended overhauls during this transition period (2029 to 2042) helps mitigate this reduced force level, which will meet at-sea presence requirements with moderate operational risk during the transition period. Unforeseen issues with construction of the Ohio-replacement or emergent material problems with the aging Ohio-class could present challenges. Full funding for continued design and construction of Ohio- replacement to ensure on-time delivery and on-time Strategic Patrol (lead ship in 2029) and properly resourced maintenance of the Ohio- class will be crucial to minimizing operational risk during the transition (2029 to 2042). With the 2-year delay (fiscal year 2019 to fiscal year 2021) to the Ohio replacement SSBN, there is no margin for further delay. Additional delay would prevent meeting current sea-based strategic deterrent requirements. The Navy will be closely managing risk during the transition period. 156. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, does a delay instill additional risk in the Navy's ability to maintain the same at-sea availability rates required under current nuclear force posture? If not, please be specific as to why. Secretary Panetta. There is some additional risk during the transition from Ohio class to Ohio replacement. To comply with the BCA, the 2-year delay defers and extends design efforts, freeing up $4.3 billion in the FYDP as well as reduces the available SSBN force to 10 ships during the transition from the Ohio-class to the Ohio replacement. The absence of extended overhauls during this transition period (2029 to 2042) helps mitigate this reduced force level, which will meet at-sea presence requirements with moderate operational risk during the transition period. Unforeseen issues with construction of the Ohio replacement or emergent material problems with the aging Ohio- class could present challenges. Full funding for continued design and construction of Ohio replacement to ensure on-time delivery and on-time strategic patrol (lead ship in 2029) and properly resourced maintenance of the Ohio-class will be crucial to minimizing operational risk during the transition (2029 to 2042). With the 2-year delay (fiscal year 2019 to fiscal year 2021) to the Ohio replacement SSBN, there is no margin for further delay. Additional delay would prevent meeting current sea-based strategic deterrent requirements. The Navy will be closely managing risk during the transition period. 157. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, does the current strategy include any margin for design or development challenges? Secretary Panetta. The 2-year delay (fiscal year 2019 to fiscal year 2021) allows some additional time to mature designs and address the programmatic risks associated with designing new systems and integrating existing technology. To control cost and risk, the Ohio replacement SSBN is planned to maximize reuse of Virginia- and Ohio- class components and designs where feasible. Overall design maturity at construction start will be no less than originally planned, commensurate with the funding provided. However, any further delay to Ohio replacement would result in fewer operational ships than necessary to meet today's at-sea deterrent requirements during the transition (2029 to 2042) from Ohio-class to Ohio replacement. Full funding for Ohio replacement design and construction to ensure on-time delivery and on-time strategic patrol (lead ship in 2029) is essential to preventing further delays. 158. Senator McCain. Secretary Panetta, does this delay in any way infuse additional risk in our national ability to meet our current strategic requirements in the future? Secretary Panetta. There is some additional risk during the transition from Ohio-class to Ohio replacement. To comply with the BCA, the 2-year delay defers and extends design efforts, freeing up $4.3 billion in the FYDP, as well as reduces the available SSBN force to 10 ships during the transition from the Ohio-class to the Ohio replacement. The absence of extended overhauls during this transition period (2029 to 2042) helps mitigate this reduced force level, which will meet at-sea presence requirements with moderate operational risk during the transition period. Unforeseen issues with construction of the Ohio replacement or emergent material problems with the aging Ohio- class could present challenges. Full funding for continued design and construction of Ohio replacement to ensure on-time delivery and on-time strategic patrol (lead ship in 2029) and properly resourced maintenance of the Ohio-class will be crucial to minimizing operational risk during the transition (2029 to 2042). With the 2-year delay (fiscal year 2019 to fiscal year 2021) to the Ohio replacement SSBN, there is no margin for further delay. Additional delay would prevent meeting current sea-based strategic deterrent requirements. The Navy will be closely managing risk during the transition period. AFGHAN SECURITY FORCES FUND 159. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, U.S. Forces in Afghanistan are to draw down to around 68,000 by September of this year. Secretary Panetta recently announced that the administration seeks to transition lead combat responsibilities to the Afghan security forces in mid- to late-2013--an enormous responsibility for a force that still faces shortcomings in its ability to conduct operations. You have stated: ``Key to long-term stability in Afghanistan is the development of the Afghan Security Forces.'' Yet, the budget request for the Afghan Security Forces Fund (ASFF)--the primary tool for the training and equipping of the Afghan Security Forces--is cut nearly in half from what was enacted for fiscal year 2012. What is the reasoning behind such a significant cut to the ASFF, particularly given the increased role Afghan forces are to assume next year? General Dempsey. The decrease in the fiscal year 2013 ASFF budget is due to the fact that we are approaching the end of ANSF force generation, equipment fielding, and facility construction. We are now moving to a force development phase. The cost of training required in the force development phase decreases for the following reasons: we are no longer building a force from the ground up, so the number of personnel that require training will decrease; and ANSF training facilities are almost finished construction, so facility costs will decrease. We are now beginning to transition ANSF training programs to Afghan control. All of the ANSF's basic training courses, NCO, and officer development courses are currently taught by ANSF personnel. The number of Afghan Master Skill Instructors in the branch schools continues to grow. The current projection is that the entire Afghan training system will be under Afghan control with coalition monitoring by the end of fiscal year 2013. This means that overall cost of training will decrease dramatically as we move from contract to ANSF instructors. 160. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, do you believe the Afghan Security Forces will be capable of assuming lead responsibility for combat operations in 2013? General Dempsey. Yes. In 2013 when the ANSF assume the lead, we will still be standing shoulder-to-shoulder with them. Our forces will still be present to advise and assist the ANSF. This will allow the ANSF to expand their capabilities and capacity without losing access to the resources and enablers that U.S. and coalition forces provide. 161. Senator McCain. General Dempsey, what capability gaps pose the greatest risk to the ability of the Afghan Security Forces to assume lead responsibility for combat operations in Afghanistan? General Dempsey. The ANSF logistics system is our greatest challenge at the moment. Improving their capability in this area is critical to the long-term success of the ANSF as they assume lead for security. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Roger F. Wicker SYRIA 162. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, the situation in Syria continues to deteriorate. Thousands of innocent Syrians have been brutally murdered and countless have been wounded. President Obama said in his State of the Union Address that in Syria, he has ``no doubt that the Assad regime will soon discover that the forces of change can't be reversed, and that human dignity can't be denied.'' How do you judge the capabilities of the Free Syrian Army (FSA)? Secretary Panetta. (Deleted.] General Dempsey. The capabilities of the FSA have steadily grown in recent months; however, the organization remains beset by logistical shortfalls and lack of unity among its leadership. Several of the FSA's leaders have taken part in a public feud over the future leadership of the movement, with some officers backing its founder, Colonel Riyad al- As'ad, and others pledging loyalty to Brigadier General Mustapha al- Shaykh. Both men have attempted to put aside their differences in recent weeks by publicly announcing the unification of their efforts to overthrow the Asad regime. FSA leadership unity continues to be evaluated as a bellwether of the movement's capabilities. The ability, or inability, of the FSA to exercise operational control over the armed opposition bears continued monitoring. In recent months, the FSA has issued several calls for the armed opposition operating within Syria to unite under the FSA's banner, suggesting the group has had difficulties exercising control over disparate armed groups throughout Syria. FSA members are actively seeking military aid from foreign sponsors, including ammunition, small arms, and advanced weapons systems. 163. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, members of the administration have stated that we will exhaust all diplomatic options in an effort to avoid any military confrontation though there have been reports that the United States is beginning to rethink its military strategy and support. What would this entail? Secretary Panetta. The President has said that Assad must halt his campaign of killing and crimes against his own people, step aside, and allow a democratic transition to proceed immediately. A political solution is the best means to achieve a stable, democratic transition; military action should always be a last resort. We are acting along several tracks. First, through the Department of State and the U.S. Agency for International Development, we are providing humanitarian relief to the Syrian people. Thus far, we have provided more than $25 million to the U.N. High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), the World Food Program (WFP), the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), and both local and international nongovernmental organizations to provide assistance to those who need it most. Second, the Department of State is leading diplomatic efforts to isolate and weaken the regime by building international consensus through the U.N. Security Council, the Arab League, and the Friends of Syria Group. The Department of the Treasury is doing its part by cutting off the regime's revenue through sanctions. Third, we are assisting the political opposition to strengthen and unite under a clear democratic transition plan that brings together Syrians of all creeds and ethnicities. Even as we continue to examine and revise military options, I would like to underscore that there are no simple solutions to the situation in Syria, and that military action is not advisable at this time. General Dempsey. We remain committed to supporting the administration's efforts to achieve a diplomatic solution to the situation in Syria. The President has said that U.S. unilateral action would be a mistake and we do not believe that military operations--such as air strikes or other forms of intervention--are advisable at this time. It is important that we continue to shape efforts within the U.N. Security Council and with our regional partners in order to achieve a positive outcome. The military, in conjunction with the U.S. Interagency, continues to explore the provision of non-lethal assistance to members of the peaceful opposition. We are reviewing all possible additional steps, including military options, but this planning does not equate to an intent or recommendation to execute a particular plan. 164. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what is the extent of the Syrian chemical stockpile? Secretary Panetta. Syria's chemical warfare program is well- established, with a stockpile of chemical warfare agents that can be delivered by aerial bombs, ballistic missiles, and artillery rockets. Syria has the facilities and expertise domestically to produce, store, and deliver chemical agents, and we believe Syria is likely to continue to seek to improve its chemical warfare capability for the foreseeable future. General Dempsey. Syria has a sophisticated chemical weapons program that dates back several decades. Over that time, Syria acquired the capability to develop and produce blister and nerve agents, including mustard gas, sarin, and possibly VX nerve agent. Syria is still dependent on foreign sources for some dual-use equipment and precursor chemicals for agent production. 165. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what can be done to secure the chemical stockpile if the Assad regime loses control? Secretary Panetta. We remain very concerned about the security of chemical and conventional weapons in Syria. We have developed options to address those concerns, and we are consulting with allies and regional partners about how to address this potential proliferation challenge. General Dempsey. The United States continues to work very closely with the U.N. to support Kofi Annan's U.N. Six-Point Peace Plan. These efforts combined with the Friends of Syria Group provide the proper international context for stability in Syria should the Assad regime lose control. We have plans in place that cover a wide range of potential scenarios and options to address those scenarios. We also continue to work with our allies and regional partners to share information and coordinate activities as we closely watch the security and disposition of Syria. 166. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, are we working with the Israelis to ensure these weapons do not get into the wrong hands? Secretary Panetta. This issue is of the highest concern to us, the Israelis, and the rest of the international community. We are cooperating with allies and regional partners across a range of potential options to prevent the proliferation of weapons, both chemical and conventional weapons. In addition--and in the midst of growing instability in the region--the United States has continued to strengthen the U.S.-Israel relationship in all aspects of cooperation. General Dempsey. Ensuring Syrian chemical and biological warfare does not fall into the wrong hands is clearly a shared security interest with Israel. From past dialogues with Israeli leadership, I know our understanding of the severity of the situation and possible consequences of proliferation or use, whether inadvertent or deliberate, is aligned. We are leveraging our longstanding and close military-to-military cooperation with the Israeli Defense Forces to make certain both of our militaries have an accurate assessment of Syrian chemical and biological warfare capabilities and vulnerabilities. I am confident that should the need to act arise, the United States will be able to deconflict or to coordinate with the Israeli Defense Forces as the situation demands. 167. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what, if any, military options do you see for DOD? Secretary Panetta. A core function of DOD is to conduct military planning as crises evolve in order to provide options to the President. In doing so, DOD looks into a variety of military options for various contingencies. I cannot get into the specifics of these options in open session, but I will reiterate that, although we continue to examine and revise military options, there are no simple solutions to the situation in Syria, and military action is not advisable at this time. General Dempsey. U.S. unilateral action or military operations are not advisable at this time. However, we continue to plan for a wide range of potential scenarios and provide options to address those scenarios. The Syrian crisis poses complex challenges ranging from control of chemical and biological weapons to humanitarian assistance. It is imperative that we continue to work with our allies and regional partners to share information and coordinate activities within this spectrum. The international community is closely monitoring the Syrian situation and we support shaping any multilateral responses within U.S. Government objectives. TROOP WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN 168. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, I do not see any tactical or diplomatic sense in your recent announcement about telling the enemy the date we are going to pull out troops. This gives the enemy an advantage on the ground and also eliminates any incentive for the Taliban to engage in substantive political negotiations with the Afghan Government. Our strategy in Afghanistan must be based solely on the conditions on the ground and not on the politics of the 2012 election. How does DOD plan to execute this announced withdrawal while not further endangering the lives of our troops and while still meeting operational demands? Secretary Panetta. The administration announced that the U.S. forces surge recovery will be completed by October 2012. We are currently working with commanders in the field to determine additional force reductions after October 2012. Plans for further reductions are developing and not ready for final decision at this time. However, future reductions will be tied to conditions on the ground and the ability of the ANSF to provide security as they assume the lead for security. The safety of our forces and the success of our mission are the primary concerns in our planning efforts. General Dempsey. We announced completion of surge recovery by October 2012. We are currently working with commanders in the field to determine further troop reductions post October 2012. Further options are being developed and not ready for final decision. Future reductions will be tied to conditions on the ground and ANSF capability to provide security as they assume lead for security. The safety of our troops and success of our mission are the primary concern in our planning efforts. ELECTRONIC MEDICAL RECORDS 169. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta, I recently met with the senior leadership of the VA to discuss the ongoing integration of the VA database with the DOD database in order to reduce duplication of efforts. What current delays is DOD facing on the integration of electronic medical records with the VA and when do you anticipate this merger will be completed? Secretary Panetta. VA and DOD have agreed to an overarching strategy for the integration of health record data. VA and DOD are currently working on the specific implementation plan for execution of the strategy. TRANSITION OF TROOPS TO CIVILIAN LIFE 170. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta, you propose a decrease of forces by 22,000 in fiscal year 2013 and 102,000 in the fiscal year 2013 FYDP. This reduction will take place amidst an American economy with a consistent 8 percent unemployment rate. As such, what initiatives do you plan to initiate in order to ensure a smooth transition for our servicemembers to civilian careers? Secretary Panetta. Realizing the state of the economy, the requirement to decrease the number of our forces, and the need to ensure a smooth transition of our military members into the civilian sector, DOD has launched several initiatives that will aid separating servicemembers. The initiatives include the: Veterans Employment Initiative Task Force: In August 2011, the President called for the creation of a Task Force led by the DOD and VA, with the White House economic and domestic policy teams and other agencies, including DOL, to develop proposals to maximize the career readiness of all servicemembers. In coordination with these partners, DOD's role involves implementing and sustaining a comprehensive plan to ensure all transitioning servicemembers have the support they need and deserve when leaving the military. This includes working with other agencies in developing a clear path to civilian employment; admission into and success in an academic or technical training program; and successful start-up of an independent business entity or non-profit organization. This effort is fully aligned with 10 U.S.C. Chapter 58 as amended by the Veterans Opportunity to Work (VOW) to Hire Heroes Act of 2011 and is consistent with DOD's commitment to keeping faith with all of our military members and their families, providing them a comprehensive set of transition tools and support mechanisms as they complete their service to our Nation. New Transition Service Delivery Model: DOD's long-term aim for a new transition service delivery model is to embed the servicemembers' preparation for transition throughout their Military Life Cycle--from accession through separation, from Active Duty service and reintegration, back into civilian life. This will require thoughtful goal setting and planning to apply military experience to longer-term career goals in the civilian sector, whether after a single enlistment or a 20-plus-year military career. Servicemembers and military leadership will be engaged in mapping and refining development plans to achieve post-military service goals--a significant culture change. POST-MILITARY COMMISSION--TRAINING COSTS AND SCHEDULE DELAYS 171. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta, my staff has been working with your staff on determining cost and schedule delays for newly commissioned military officers. How much money is being spent across the Services on personnel between their post-commission and pre- specialty training? Secretary Panetta. Assessment of a cost of handling the annual accession surge is not readily available and difficult to calculate because of the varied number of valid and meaningful assignments, the large number of military training pipelines, and the number of personnel within those pipelines who may be delayed due to various reasons (medical, weather, et cetera) rather than pipeline inefficiencies. The wait time a new officer experiences before starting training does not directly correlate to down time or poor use of the officers. Each of the Services works to maximize the utilization of officers awaiting training through meaningful assignments which provide the new officer with valuable professional experiences. The following methods are used across the Services to stagger input to training: Stagger ROTC accessions--law and policy allow the Services to commission ROTC Cadets/Midshipmen and delay their Active Duty start for up to 12 months and serve in a non- drilling status in their Services' Reserve component Temporarily assign to vacant positions during the time they are awaiting training Temporarily assign to supplement recruiting programs Temporarily assign to augment staffs and operations to cover work load increases or manning shortages (caused by deployments) Assign to ultimate position awaiting training Permit the use of extended leave (up to 90 days) Complete administrative training courses required for future assignment 172. Senator Wicker. Secretary Panetta, additionally, what measures has DOD implemented to reduce the amount of time and costs associated with this down time? Secretary Panetta. About two-thirds of DOD's annual officer accessions graduate and are commissioned each year in May/June from the Service Academies and Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) programs. This presents a huge personnel/training logistical challenge-- sequencing over 8,000 initially accessed officers into constrained specialty training pipelines without causing a training backlog or pool. That sequencing execution is not simple and requires many different methods to attempt to mitigate back-ups. However, the wait time a new officer experiences before starting training does not directly correlate to down time or poor use of the officer. The Services strive to maximize the utilization of officers awaiting training through meaningful assignments which provide the new officer with valuable professional experiences. The following methods are used across the Services to stagger input to training: Stagger ROTC accessions--law and policy allow the Services to commission ROTC Cadets/Midshipmen and delay their Active Duty start for up to 12 months and serve in a non- drilling status in their Services' Reserve component Temporarily assign to vacant positions during the time they are awaiting training Temporarily assign to supplement recruiting programs Temporarily assign to augment staffs and operations to cover work load increases or manning shortages (caused by deployments) Assign to ultimate position awaiting training Permit the use of extended leave (up to 90 days) Complete administrative training courses required for future assignment Training facilities are planned on steady state requirements. Over the last few years, increases in end strength have caused some unusually long backlogs in some training pipelines due to facility limitations. These backlogs are being alleviated and have been reduced by as much as 50 percent. The most common delay in specialty training is caused by weather. For example, in aviation training, an unusually wet season can produce a backlog that may take several months to clear. Each pipeline and schoolhouse is encouraged to minimize time-to-train, and each training commander is evaluated on his/her training efficiency. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Scott P. Brown MEADS PROGRAM 173. Senator Brown. Secretary Panetta, I understand USD(ATL) Kendall is currently engaged in discussions with his German counterparts to negotiate the termination of the MEADS program. When can I expect a report from DOD on the program's reduced scope? Secretary Panetta. On April 26, 2012, DOD provided to the congressional defense committees the plan required by section 235 of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012 that describes DOD's use of fiscal year 2012 funds as the U.S. final financial contribution under the MEADS program. 174. Senator Brown. Secretary Panetta, last year's NDAA fenced 25 percent of funds for MEADS until such a report was delivered. Roughly, how much of the fiscal year 2012 funding has been spent to date? Secretary Panetta. Prior to delivery of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012 section 235 report on MEADS, DOD provided $85 million to the NATO MEADS program office, which is less than 25 percent of the $390 million in fiscal year 2012 funding authorized and appropriated for MEADS. Upon delivery of the report to the congressional defense committees in late April, DOD provided an additional $250 million to the NATO MEADS program office. GLOBAL HAWK 175. Senator Brown. Secretary Panetta, with respect to DOD's decision to terminate the Global Hawk Block 30 program, what were the findings of sustainment cost comparisons between the U-2 and the Global Hawk? Secretary Panetta. When we initially invested in the Global Hawk Block 30 program, it held the promise of providing essentially the same capability as the U-2 manned aircraft for significantly less money to both buy and operate. As the program has matured, these cost savings have not materialized. In this 5-year budget, the cost of the Global Hawk program was projected to exceed the cost of the U-2, so we cancelled Global Hawk Block 30 and extended the U-2 program, avoiding the cost to complete the Global Hawk Block 30 program and saving roughly $2.5 billion over the 5 years. 176. Senator Brown. Secretary Panetta, can the U-2 alone provide the ISR necessary in order to meet current and future operational requirements? Secretary Panetta. For high-altitude airborne ISR, the U-2 meets current and future operational multi-intelligence requirements. There are two different types of sensors on the U-2 and Global Hawk. When comparing sensors, the U-2 imagery sensor suites are more capable than the Global Hawk sensors, whereas the U-2 and Global Hawk Signals Intelligence sensors are comparable. High-altitude ISR is only one part of an aggregate capability of space, airborne, and ground systems. These systems operate together to sufficiently meet contingency and enduring ISR needs. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Rob Portman GROUND COMBAT VEHICLES 177. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, what shortcomings do you feel exist in our ground combat vehicle fleet to operate effectively on future battlefields? General Dempsey. Current legacy platforms are aging and were originally designed within the construct of linear, force-on-force battle against conventional threats. They do not possess a sufficient combination of force protection, survivability, payload, transportability, command and control (C2), and reliability, availability, and maintainability (RAM) required to operate in the full spectrum of potential conflicts against existing and emerging hybrid threats. Current add-on protection systems reduce payload, RAM, and mobility needed to meet future operational requirements and add-on C2, intelligence, and sensor systems exceed the size, weight, power, and cooling constraints of current vehicle platforms. Development programs such as ground combat vehicle, JLTV, and amphibious combat vehicle will address identified shortcomings. 178. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, based upon the development of Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (C4ISR) systems across the Joint Force, do our GCVs possess the necessary capabilities to integrate into these systems? General Dempsey. The current design of ground combat platforms did not envision the sophistication of today's C2 systems. Where feasible, these legacy ground combat systems have been integrated into the C4ISR network, but are often limited by size, weight, power, and cooling constraints. With regard to new systems in development, the Joint Staff has updated the Network Ready overarching Key Performance Parameters to ensure programs in development are designed to be interoperable and supportable with existing C2 programs and other programs under development. 179. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, what risks are associated with the reduction of Heavy BCTs from the Army? General Dempsey. The Army is carefully managing the force structure reduction, ensuring that the resultant force is capable of meeting the anticipated future requirements. We have assessed the planned reduction in Army BCTs against the strategic guidance for DOD, and the programmed inventory of Heavy BCTs is sufficient to meet the demands of our strategy. INDUSTRIAL BASE CONCERNS 180. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, the reduced funding profiles in the President's proposed budget along with proposed program cancellations will put a strain on different parts of the defense industrial base across the spectrum, from the largest prime contractors all the way down to third-tier vendors. You stated in your Defense Budget Priorities and Choices Guidance, that in support of the President's strategic guidance tenet of reversibility, the budget sustains segments of the industrial base to regenerate capability, if necessary. What criteria did you use to determine which parts of the industrial base were sustained? General Dempsey. DOD used information from AT&L's S2T2 assessment project and insights from other internal and external sources to characterize industrial base niches according to their criticality (characteristics that make a product or service difficult to replace, if disrupted) and fragility (characteristics that make small deviations in the status quo likely to have substantial effects on the industrial niche). 181. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, where do you see the vulnerabilities and what decisions did you make that were particularly influenced by industrial base concerns? General Dempsey. Key vulnerabilities that may hinder our global posture rebalance are: (1) a potential for atrophy and loss of key D&D capabilities in the aviation industrial base; (2) a potential lack of engineering and manufacturing skills necessary to support long-range missile development; (3) low volume production in our Nation's shipyards making it difficult for U.S. shipyards to match improvements in technology and productivity seen in international shipyards; and (4) disruption to the space industrial base related to solid rocket motors due to the retirement of the Space Shuttle. The space industrial base is a good example of DOD's efforts to mitigate industrial base concerns. Multiple DOD components participate in the Space Industrial Base Council Critical Technology Working Group (CTWG). The CTWG is an interagency organization tasked to assess structural issues in key domestic space industrial base sectors and coordinate mitigation activities in areas of shared concern across multiple government space agencies. This coherent, systematic effort is focused on ensuring continued and reliable access to critical cross- cutting space technologies, including associated launch vehicles and support systems for the U.S. Government space community. DOD has also employed authorities of the Defense Production Act to co-finance capital expenditures to mitigate technical and business risks associated with niche government-unique capabilities, including certain batteries, solar cells and arrays, traveling wave tube amplifiers, focal plane arrays, and star trackers. 182. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, how do you intend to monitor the health of the industrial base to ensure reversibility, if necessary, can be implemented in the future? General Dempsey. DOD has adopted an initiative focused on developing a more complete understanding of the complexity of the defense industrial base. This initiative, known as the S2T2 assessment, is a multi-pronged and comprehensive approach for monitoring the health of the defense industrial base. It seeks to identify areas of criticality (characteristics that make a product or service difficult to replace, if disrupted) and fragility (characteristics that make small deviations in the status quo likely to have substantial effects on the industrial niche) that might require DOD intervention and mitigation. 183. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, as program decisions are made over the next 5 years, how will the impacts to the industrial base be taken into consideration and if so, how will the assessment be incorporated into the overall program decision? General Dempsey. DOD continuously considers industrial base impacts and adjusts accordingly. For example, prior to eliminating a defense contract bidder in our acquisition process, we evaluate the competitive marketplace and the consequences to the competitors. At Milestones B and C decisions, through the acquisition strategy, the program assesses the industrial base's ability to produce, support, and improve/upgrade products to meet the program's cost, schedule, and performance requirements--including all key sub-tier suppliers, as well as the prime contractor. When there is an indication that a necessary industrial capability is endangered, DOD will determine if it needs to take action to preserve that capability. COMPETITION IN PROCUREMENT PRACTICES 184. Senator Portman. General Dempsey, the value of competition in our procurement practices is critical to achieving the best-value for our Government and its taxpayers. It has been noted, to achieve the long-term savings of competition, occasionally near-term investments are required, something that may be an easy target of the budget axe with long-term implications. Your documents outline some strategies to overcome these challenges, like dissimilar competition, self- competition, competition for profit, and other alternatives to classic head-to-head, and they also outline some shortcomings in 2011 from achieving the goals: delays from the contractors; the award of several major weapon system programs; and delays and greater fidelity in data. Despite these issues in 2011, we had a high in 2008 of 64 percent of contracts competitively awarded, with a multi-year trend down to 58.5 percent in 2011. You have some modest goals of increasing this number by single digit percentages in the coming years. What are the causes of this downward trend and how do you plan to keep programs to their competition strategies in the face of budget challenges? General Dempsey. Much of the drop in the overall competition rate is due to an increase in non-competitive contract actions involving requirements with only one responsible source for major systems, such as the LPD-26, the DDG-1000 ships, the Virginia-class submarine, and several aircraft programs such as the F-22, C-17, C5, JSF, and P-8. While these contracts were competitively awarded initially, the contract actions issued in 2011 were follow-on efforts that were carefully reviewed and determined to be non-competitive, with approved sole-source justifications. Despite the drop in the overall competition rate, there were several high-dollar major-system contracts competitively awarded in 2011 such as the Littoral Combat Ships and the DDG 114-116 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. DOD is placing renewed emphasis on promoting real competition and improving competition rates under the Better Buying Power Initiative. In order to encourage competition at the prime and subcontract level, a policy was recently put in place that requires program managers to present a competition strategy at each program milestone. Senior leadership in AT&L reviews each of these strategies for Major Defense Acquisition Programs and requires the Component Acquisition Executives to do the same for programs under their cognizance. These initiatives will facilitate DOD's ability to meet the goals established for the upcoming years. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator John Cornyn SEQUESTRATION 185. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, according to recent reports, DOD Comptroller Robert Hale has told reporters that DOD is not planning for sequestration, explaining, ``I know nobody believes us, but I'd know if we were.'' According to these reports, this is due to the fact that OMB has not told DOD to do so. Can you confirm that DOD has been so directed by the administration? Secretary Panetta. Consistent with direction from OMB, DOD did not reflect the effects of the sequestration in its fiscal year 2013 budget submission. The President's budget proposes over $4 trillion in balanced deficit reduction, which Congress could enact and avoid sequestration. DOD is not currently planning for sequestration. OMB has not directed agencies, including DOD, to initiate any plans for sequestration. General Dempsey. Per OMB's direction last fall, this budget complies with the BCA caps established by Congress. We will continue to work with OMB and Congress to properly resource the capability to defend our Nation and our allies. REVERSIBILITY OF DEFENSE CUTS 186. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in your strategic guidance announcement last month, both of you highlighted the need to build in reversibility as these significant cuts to our Nation's defense budget are made. The strategic guidance document also states, ``the concept of reversibility--including the vectors on which we place our industrial base, our people, our Active/Reserve components balance, our posture, and our partnership emphasis--is a key part of our decision calculus.'' Reversibility sounds like a euphemism for ``we're not totally sure that these cuts represent sound policy.'' Is it realistic to think that, within a reasonable time frame, we could reverse decisions as monumental as downsizing our ground forces by nearly 100,000 troops (close to pre-September 11 levels), delaying or cancelling major acquisition programs, and retiring significant numbers of current aircraft and ships? Secretary Panetta. Reversibility represents a recognition that the security environment is continually changing. DOD will be responsible for a range of missions and activities across the globe of varying scope, duration, and strategic priority. This will place a premium on flexible and adaptable forces that can respond quickly and effectively to a variety of contingencies and potential adversaries. The Joint Force of 2020 will be such a force and I am confident that we will have the ability to mobilize and regenerate forces and capability as needed. General Dempsey. Reversibility is intended to deal with evolutions in the strategic environment. Implementing reversibility will certainly require vigilance to provide sufficient time to adapt to changes. By considering the need for flexibility and the mechanisms to execute future adjustments, we will be better prepared to do what is necessary. DOD is developing an analytical framework in support of the concept of reversibility. We are beginning to apply this framework to investment decisions now and in the future. DOWNSIZING OF U.S. LAND FORCES 187. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, according to the Defense Strategic Guidance document, the new strategy must ``protect key investments in the technologically advanced capabilities most needed for the future . . . [and] no longer size Active Forces to conduct large and protracted stability operations while retaining the expertise of a decade of war.'' As a result, you have proposed eliminating about 100,000 soldiers and marines from the force. Although weapons development can usually be accelerated, there is no real way to accelerate the development of quality military leaders during times of crisis. Our force has such leaders in it today, including many thousands of NCOs who learned the hard lessons of Iraq and Afghanistan. But once they leave the force, in most cases they cannot be replaced. Following every war since World War II, the United States has significantly reduced Army and Marine Corps levels while focusing on developing air and sea forces. In recent decades, when confronted with the next crisis--including Korea, Vietnam, and the Persian Gulf--we have been forced to try to regenerate sizeable land forces. How do you plan to ensure that we retain the expertise and experience garnered by our NCOs and other leaders over the past decade, preserving it for the next conflict, while making such drastic reductions to our Army and Marine Corps? Secretary Panetta. Army The new Defense Strategic Guidance released in January 2012 notes that since we cannot predict how the strategic environment will evolve with absolute certainty, we need to manage the force in ways that protect its ability to regenerate capabilities that may be needed to meet future, unforeseen demands. The Strategy also notes that we need to retain intellectual capital and rank structure that could be called up to expand key elements of the force. The Army is examining strategies, policies, and investments that would posture the Army to be able to slow and reverse a planned drawdown of Army end strength and formations, and rapidly expand over the course of a number of years in response to a future crisis. To retain intellectual capital and rank structure, the Army is identifying billets in its Generating Force that can support such expansion. Marine Corps The planned reduction in the end strength of the Marine Corps results in an increase in the percentage of staff noncommissioned officers (SNCO), NCOs, and field grade officers. Additionally, we did not reduce the size of our Reserve Force; this will provide an opportunity for many to continue to serve and remain prepared for the future. These NCOs, SNCOs, field grade officers, and Reserve marines are exactly the populations that have the expertise and experience garnered from the last decade. Their expertise and professionalism will ensure the next generation will receive the best training. Perhaps as important as retaining the leaders is the plan to reduce the force in a deliberate measured way that remains committed to today's warriors. Maintaining the trust and confidence of today's marines will go a long way to retain the confidence that is held by the average American citizen. If and when the time comes for growth-- America's sons, daughters, mothers, and fathers will be eager to be associated with the U.S. Marine Corps. General Dempsey. Our NCO corps provides a great value to our Joint Force and in winning our Nation's wars. On the heels of Afghanistan and Iraq, reshaping our personnel across the Services will impact our officers and junior enlisted community as well as our NCOs. Over the next 5 years, as the Services implement their separation and retirement processes to meet new authorized end strengths, we will ensure that we maintain levels of experience and capacity in both our Active component and operational reserve. The Secretary made it perfectly clear during the budget rollout strategy that the Services need to ensure mechanisms are in place to retain our mid-grade NCOs and officers, so our pool of experience remains balanced, relevant, and ready. My promise to the force in keeping the faith is to ensure that our men and women are properly trained and educated to meet any emerging requirements as may be directed from our Commander in Chief. 188. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, given that we are still fighting a land war in Afghanistan, coupled with our historical inability to predict the next conflict, on what do you base the conclusion that we will rely more heavily on air and sea capabilities in the future? Secretary Panetta. All Services will play integral roles in addressing future U.S. security challenges across all domains. The new Defense Strategic Guidance noted that, ``given that we cannot predict how the strategic environment will evolve with absolute certainty, we will maintain a broad portfolio of military capabilities that, in the aggregate, offer versatility across a wide range of missions.'' DOD's decision not to divest in the capability to conduct any mission reflects this recognition that the future security environment is uncertain. Given this unpredictability, the new Defense Strategic Guidance commits to managing the force in ways that protect its ability to regenerate capabilities that might be needed to meet future, unforeseen demands. The abilities of our ground forces to ensure access, reassure allies, deter adversaries, build security capacity and interoperability with partners, and ultimately, respond to and succeed in crises and contingencies, are indispensable and distinguishing features of U.S. military capabilities. The nature of the future strategic environment will require even greater flexibility and agility in projecting power to accomplish the Nation's security objectives. As the U.S. Armed Forces increase their operational focus on enhanced presence, power projection, freedom of action, and deterrence in the Pacific--while placing a premium on U.S. and allied military presence and support of partner nations in the Middle East--air and sea forces offer distinct strengths in accomplishing these global joint missions, alongside a range of mutually-reinforcing U.S. ground forces' activities in these regions. In other regions also, the complementary efforts of all the Services across land, air, and sea, and increasingly, space and cyber domains, are necessary to protect U.S. and allied security interests. General Dempsey. As we draw down from the operation in Afghanistan, and reduce our budget to help protect our Nation's economy, we have assessed risks in keeping our Homeland safe and in our ability to sustain leadership abroad. After weighing numerous options, an area where we accept additional risk is in the size of our land forces--we will not be sized to conduct long-term stability operations within the Active component. Any campaign we are likely to wage in the future will be fully joint. After a decade of relying heavily on our ground forces, we must ensure that we maintain our decisive edge in the air and maritime domains against future challenges. Many of these sea and air capabilities you speak of are not combat platforms; they are key enablers and essential to power projection of the entire Joint Force, to include ground forces--tankers, high-speed vessels, and ISR platforms. Many of the air and sea combat systems that are being fielded will enable cross-domain strike operations or in the case of BMD, joint protection. In an unpredictable strategic environment, the ability to project power anywhere on the globe is critical to rapidly and effectively responding to emerging threats. Robust air and naval capabilities are, and will continue to be, essential to maintaining that ability. ASIA-PACIFIC REGION AND CHINA 189. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, last month you announced the U.S. military would pivot its focus to the Asia-Pacific region. Yet, the significance of this announcement seems to have been undermined by the cuts that were announced simultaneously. Although the President has said that defense cuts ``will not come at the expense of the Asia-Pacific,'' this promise seems hollow. These deep and broad defense cuts will impact every aspect of our Nation's defense capability and quantitatively reduce the overall capabilities and forces that are available in the PACOM AOR. At the same time our defense budget is bearing the brunt of our Nation's fiscal woes, China is investing substantial funds in the modernization and build-up of its military forces. According to DOD, China's official defense budget has grown by an average of 12.1 percent each year since 2000. Analysts at Jane's Defence have reported they expect China's defense spending to accelerate substantially in the next 3 years, at a combined annual rate of 18.7 percent per year. At the same time, Secretary Panetta's prepared testimony notes that, ``when reduced war-related funding requirements are included, we expect total U.S. defense spending to drop by more than 20 percent over the next few years . . . '' What is your assessment of the risk the United States assumes by making such drastic cuts to our defense spending while China grows its defense budget and continues its military modernization efforts at an unprecedented rate? Secretary Panetta. The United States is a resident power in the Asia-Pacific region with enduring interests in the region. We will maintain, and in some areas enhance, our military presence in the Asia- Pacific region by making our posture more geographically distributed, operationally resilient, and politically sustainable. The United States will retain the capacity to deter conflict and, if necessary, prevail in any contingency. We are investing in those capabilities most relevant to preserving the security, sovereignty, and freedom of the United States and that of our allies and partners. Despite reductions in the U.S. defense budget, we are improving capabilities that maintain our military's technological edge and freedom of action, in the Asia-Pacific region and globally. We are increasing investments in both defensive and offensive cyber capabilities. In terms of power projection, we increased or protected investment in capabilities such as the development of a new bomber, cruise missile capacity of Virginia-class submarines, a conventional prompt strike option from submarines, and electronic warfare capabilities. We have sustained Army and Marine Corps force structure in the Pacific, and we are increasing our rotational presence--for example, through the deployment of marines to Darwin, Australia. At the whole-of-government level, reducing risk to U.S. interests is a function of all elements of national power. As stated in the new Defense Strategic Guidance, we will emphasize our existing alliances and expand our networks of cooperation with emerging partners throughout the Asia-Pacific region to ensure collective capability and capacity for securing common interests. General Dempsey. Given our current economic and fiscal situation, reduced defense budgets are and will be a fact of life not just for DOD, but for the U.S. Government as a whole. The defense budget will of necessity be reduced and everyone will be asked to do as much or more with fewer available resources. Our military forces are not exempt from this reality. However, we should also remain aware that managing risk is not simply a matter of how much money we spend on defense. Reducing risk to U.S. interests is a function of all elements of national power, to include our diplomatic and cooperative efforts. Our relationships with Asian allies and key partners are critical to the future stability and growth of the region. We will emphasize our existing alliances, which provide a vital foundation for Asia-Pacific security. We will also expand our networks of cooperation with emerging partners throughout the Asia-Pacific to ensure collective capability and capacity for securing common interests. It is primarily through these efforts that we can best ensure long-term stability in the Asia- Pacific region and protect U.S. national interests. However, we are also continuing to make necessary capability investments and adjustments to our force posture in the Asia-Pacific region in order to preserve our ability to project power in denied environments should the need arise. Additionally, we are also protecting other key components of the Joint Force, including Special Operations Forces; unmanned air systems; sea-based unmanned ISR systems; advanced ISR with increased capabilities; and all three legs of our nuclear deterrent. Our focus is to ensure the we are fully prepared to meet any threats to the security of the United States, its citizens, allies, and partners. 190. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, according to DOD's 2011 report, ``Military and Security Developments Involving the People's Republic of China,'' China's long-term, comprehensive military modernization improves China's capacity to conduct high-intensity regional military operations, including anti- access and area denial operations. What is your assessment of the intent behind China's military modernization, both in the region and globally? Secretary Panetta. (Deleted.] General Dempsey. [Deleted.] 191. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, in recent years, our Nation has experienced an increasing volley of cyber attacks and cyber theft emanating from China, and this is of great concern to many Senators. According to an October 2011 report by the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive, ``Chinese actors are the world's most active and persistent perpetrators of economic espionage.'' The report goes on to highlight that ``computer networks of a broad array of U.S. Government agencies . . . were targeted by cyber espionage; much of this activity appears to have originated in China.'' What is your assessment of this growing threat? Secretary Panetta. I agree with the findings of the Biennial Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial Espionage, 2009-2010: ``Foreign Spies Stealing U.S. Economic Secrets in Cyberspace,'' prepared by the Office of National Counterintelligence Executive. The threats to our Nation in cyberspace continue to grow at an alarming rate. In particular, the extensive cyber-enabled exploitation of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets is a direct threat to vital U.S. economic and national security interests, including DOD's ability to field the most technologically advanced force. DOD is working closely with its interagency partners, including the Departments of State, Homeland Security, Justice, and Commerce, to facilitate a coordinated approach to cyber threats, not only from China, but from others actors as well. We must develop options to respond to and impose costs on cyber threat actors to deter future exploitation and attack. The President stated in his International Strategy for Cyberspace that the United States reserves the right to use all necessary means--diplomatic, informational, military, and economic--as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law--in order to defend our Nation, our allies, our partners, and our interests against hostile acts in cyberspace. General Dempsey. The number of cyber intrusions appearing to originate in China is extensive, and U.S. businesses and government agencies will continue to see this type of activity in the coming years. China is likely using its computer network exploitation capability to support intelligence collection against the U.S. diplomatic, economic, and defense industrial base sectors that support U.S. national defense programs. The targeted information could potentially be used to benefit China's defense industry, high technology industries, foreign policy decisionmakers, and military planners, who likely are building a picture of U.S. defense networks, logistics, and related military capabilities that could be exploited during a crisis. Observed intrusions have varied in sophistication and Chinese cyber actors appear to have the capability to adapt their methods depending on the cyber defenses of the target. 192. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, do you agree that such aggression is unacceptable and does serious damage to U.S.-China relations? Secretary Panetta. I agree with the findings of the Biennial Report to Congress on Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial Espionage, 2009-2010: ``Foreign Spies Stealing U.S. Economic Secrets in Cyberspace,'' prepared by the Office of National Counterintelligence Executive. The threats to our Nation in cyberspace continue to grow at an alarming rate. In particular, the extensive cyber-enabled exploitation of U.S. intellectual property and trade secrets is a direct threat to vital U.S. economic and national security interests, including DOD's ability to field the most technologically advanced force. DOD is working closely with its interagency partners including the Departments of State, Homeland Security, Justice, and Commerce, to facilitate a coordinated approach to cyber threats, not only from China, but from others actors as well. We must develop options to respond to and impose costs on cyber threat actors to deter future exploitation and attack. The President stated in his International Strategy for Cyberspace that the United States reserves the right to use all necessary means--diplomatic, informational, military, and economic--as appropriate and consistent with applicable international law--in order to defend our Nation, our allies, our partners, and our interests against hostile acts in cyberspace. General Dempsey. As cyber events carry the potential to affect civilian infrastructure and military readiness, it is important that we communicate our concerns regarding the negative impacts of ongoing cyber security risks. We are working to engage China on this issue to strongly reinforce the potential benefit to our overall relationship by improving efforts to curtail cyber attacks emanating from the mainland. ISRAEL AND IRAN 193. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta, in terms of meeting the Iran threat, the United States has certain military capabilities that Israel and other allies do not. How are we working with Israel to narrow the gaps between our respective capabilities and helping to ensure that Israel is able to defend herself against potential threats from Iran? Secretary Panetta. The U.S.-Israel defense relationship is strong, and we are working with Israel more closely than ever before in areas such as missile defense technology, counterterrorism, and across a range of military exercises--to ensure that Israel is always secure. We are engaged in a regular dialogue with senior Israeli officials to understand their security requirements and maintain Israel's qualitative military edge. A critical element of this is providing Israel with the most advanced technology in the region, including the fifth generation JSF. Through a combination of providing Israel technology like this, and our extensive work with Israel on missile defense, we are ensuring that Israel can defend itself. FUTURE OF EGYPT 194. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, just over a year ago, the Egyptian people took to the street and overthrew President Hosni Mubarak. Today, it appears that Islamist factions are poised to take control of the Egyptian Government and the country's future. What is your assessment of the Muslim Brotherhood? Secretary Panetta. (Deleted.] General Dempsey. (Deleted.] 195. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what impact will a Brotherhood-led government have on the longstanding relationship between the U.S. military and the Egyptian military? Secretary Panetta. DOD and the Egyptian military have been close partners for many decades, and the United States is committed to a robust bilateral relationship with Egypt today and following the July transition to civilian rule. Through annual military exchanges, foreign military assistance, combined exercises, and other engagement efforts, we look forward to maintaining and strengthening this partnership for decades to come. Regardless of political changes, DOD believes that the fundamentals of this strategic relationship remain strong. The United States expects that Egypt will maintain its international security commitments, including its treaty obligations with Israel. The Muslim Brotherhood has provided public assurances of its commitment to the international obligations undertaken by the Government of Egypt. General Dempsey. This is a new Egypt and we will need to build new partnerships, even as we sustain the old ones. We intend to engage in a comprehensive review of how our assistance can best meet the needs of the Egyptian people and advance our shared interests and aspirations. This is best accomplished through broad-based consultations with all of the institutions of the new government. The United States and Egyptian militaries have been strong partners, and we expect that partnership to continue. 196. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, how are we strategically adapting to the new role the military is taking within the Egyptian Government? Secretary Panetta. The United States is committed to a robust bilateral relationship with Egypt today and following the July 2012 transition to civilian rule. We will take steps both to strengthen old partnerships and build new ones. DOD will engage in close dialogue with Egyptian military and civilian officials on the wide range of security and defense issues of mutual interest to our governments. Events of the Arab Awakening have clearly demonstrated that military-to-military partnerships are critical for protecting enduring U.S. security interests, and also for providing a channel through which U.S. defense officials can discuss the importance of reform. To this end, we will use annual military exchanges, foreign military assistance, combined exercises, and other engagement efforts, to strengthen our partnership with the Egyptian military and promote reform for years to come. General Dempsey. The strength of our military relationship with Egypt is a source of influence. We saw the importance of the relationship in the early days of the revolution during which the United States urged Egyptians to refrain from violence. The United States now supports the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces and the new parliament in the successful completion of the transition. We need a strong, stable Egypt as our partner. From here, the only path to sustainable stability in Egypt is a successful democratic transition. Egypt has made important progress toward democracy over the past 12 months. For the first time in 60 years, Egyptians have elected a representative parliament, which now exercises legislative authority, and presidential elections are scheduled for May. These are important milestones in Egypt's transition to civilian government. We look to Egypt for everything from maintaining its peace treaty with Israel, to joint counterterrorism and anti-weapons smuggling efforts, to preferential access for U.S. ships transiting the Suez Canal. The Egyptian military's role in Egypt will continue to change. As that happens, we want to ensure that we protect our longstanding relationships and build new ones. 197. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, there has been a great deal of discussion in Congress that military assistance to Egypt should be cut because of the Egyptian Government's actions against American pro-democracy nongovernmental organizations (NGO). In your opinion, should this be a factor when determining future levels of aid to Egypt? Secretary Panetta. The administration remains concerned about the ongoing trial of NGO employees, as well as the ability of civil society organizations to work in Egypt. Both publicly and in private conversations with Egyptian officials, General Dempsey and I have discussed the importance of allowing civil society organizations to operate freely in Egypt. Our strategic relationship with Egypt remains one of the most important in the region. U.S. security assistance to Egypt is an important demonstration of our commitment to supporting Egypt at this moment of historic challenges and remains a cornerstone of our security cooperation and partnership on regional security issues. Foreign Military Financing (FMF) plays a critical role in efforts to professionalize the Egyptian military, so that the armed forces can better serve the interests of the Egyptian people and jointly advance our mutual security priorities. Notably, the decision by the Egyptian military in January 2011 to avoid firing on peaceful demonstrators and to side with protesters demanding the resignation of former president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011, was a vital step in allowing Egypt's democratic transition to take place. U.S. bilateral assistance to Egypt is guided by the need to safeguard our strategic interests in maintaining a critically important bilateral partnership with Egypt and in supporting the success of a democratic transition for Egypt that meets the aspirations of all Egyptians. General Dempsey. First and foremost, our security partnership with Egypt, reinforced by FMF, remains critical to our interests across the region. We look to Egypt for everything from maintaining its peace treaty with Israel to joint counterterrorism and anti-weapons smuggling efforts, to preferential access for U.S. ships transiting the Suez Canal. Disrupting FMF right now could put these critical interests at risk. We also have a powerful interest in a successful democratic transition. We need a strong, stable Egypt as our partner. From here, the only path to sustainable stability in Egypt is a successful democratic transition. 198. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, what is the strategic thinking behind the continued provision of U.S. military assistance to Egypt? Secretary Panetta. Our strategic relationship with Egypt is one of the most important in the region. U.S. military assistance to Egypt remains an important demonstration of our commitment to supporting Egypt at this moment of historic challenges, and reflects the vital U.S. interest in continued security cooperation with Egypt, whose peace with Israel is a cornerstone of regional stability. U.S. bilateral assistance to Egypt is guided by the need to safeguard our strategic interests in maintaining this important bilateral partnership and in supporting the success of a democratic transition for Egypt that meets the aspirations of all Egyptians. General Dempsey. Continued U.S. military assistance allows us to protect our core national security interests in Egypt. For over 30 years, Egypt's peace treaty with Israel has been a cornerstone of peace and stability as well as security along the Egyptian-Israeli border. FMF supports our critical partnership with Egypt on counterterrorism and their efforts to stop arms smuggling. Lack of success in either mission has the potential to destabilize the region. Issuing this waiver allows Egypt's military to maintain its readiness and interoperability with U.S. forces, which is essential for effective cooperation on regional threats. The recent FMF waiver supports America's force posture across the region which relies heavily on overflight rights and priority access to the Suez Canal. MILITARY VOTING 199. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta, the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment (MOVE) Act, enacted by Congress as part of the NDAA for Fiscal Year 2010, requires DOD to create a motor voter-style voting assistance office on every military installation, thereby providing military servicemembers and their families with critical voting assistance, regardless of how far they might be from their hometowns. As the 2012 elections fast approach, I am concerned that the Military Services have dragged their feet on fully implementing this requirement. This provision was passed in order to provide servicemembers the same level of assistance that civilians receive under the Federal motor voter law--the National Voter Registration Act--I know you agree that their service and sacrifice demand no less. Why has DOD failed, to date, to fully comply with this requirement? Secretary Panetta. The first Installation Voting Assistance (IVA) Office was established in November 2009 and the final IVA Office was established in August 2011. Before finalization of the IVA Office regulations, DOD aggressively moved to support the Services with training programs and assistance visits. Draft copies of these regulations were provided to the Services throughout that regulatory coordination process both for the Services' comment and for their IVA Office establishment preparation. DOD also promptly moved to support the Services before finalization of the regulations with IVA Office-in-a-Box training programs, visiting 36 military concentration areas in August and September 2010, providing complete IVA Office training packages, templates, and draft documents, copies of which will be provided to this committee and your office. DOD also initiated its biennial Voting Assistance Office Workshops this spring, with a special training module for IVA Office personnel. During those workshop visits, DOD personnel are also conducting assist-and- assess visits at local IVA Offices to determine compliance with departmental regulations and Federal laws, and to provide direct assistance for IVA Office personnel. Forty assist-and-assess visits have already been conducted this year, and approximately four more are conducted every week. A list of those IVA Offices already visited and to be visited will be provided to this committee and to your office. Additionally, the Services are reporting quarterly on their IVA Office utilization, those reports are posted on the FVAP.gov website, and copies of those reports will be provided to this committee and to your office. 200. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta, are you willing to get personally involved to ensure the Military Services comply with the MOVE Act and the motor voter law on every military installation, as required? Secretary Panetta. Yes, and I share your desire to provide our military voters timely and effective voting assistance. I welcome the opportunity to work with you and this Committee to assess whether to allow the Services to execute this voting assistance at the unit vice installation level, increase voter assistance utilization, reducing costs to the Services, and providing voters a seamless unit level voting assistance process. FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT REFORM 201. Senator Cornyn. Secretary Panetta, you have shown an unprecedented commitment to making DOD audit-ready. It is my hope that future Secretaries of Defense will share that impressive level of commitment on this important issue. DOD was previously required by law to be audit-ready for the first time in 2017. Last year, you raised the bar and stated a more ambitious goal for DOD to achieve audit readiness of the Statement of Budgetary Resources for general funds by the end of 2014. What progress has been made to date in achieving this goal? Secretary Panetta. In October 2011, I directed DOD to accelerate achievement of several goals in DOD's Financial Improvement and Audit Readiness (FIAR) Plan and place greater emphasis on the overall effort. In response to my October directive, each of the Services and Defense Agencies has reviewed their FIAR Plans and adjusted them to speed progress. They are now hard at work implementing their plans to achieve the accelerated SBR audit readiness date. The Service Secretary and Chief of Staff for each Military Service have committed to achieving specific near-term goals in support of their plans for achieving auditable financial statements. I have reviewed these commitments and plans and am holding civilian and military senior leaders from across DOD accountable for progress against those plans. Senior executives, both inside and outside the financial management community, now have audit goals in their individual performance plans and we are working to include them in General and Flag Officer performance plans as well. Actual performance against these plans will be assessed each year during annual performance appraisal cycles. This will ensure those under their leadership are getting the message that better control over resources has a big effect on mission success, and everyone has a part to play. I'd offer some recent accomplishments as examples of both our commitment and progress: DISA achieved a clean opinion on its $6.6 billion working capital fund operations for fiscal year 2011 and it is moving forward with an audit of its fiscal year 2012 general fund business. Contract Resource Management of the TRICARE Management Activity received an unqualified opinion on its fiscal year 2011 financial statements. The Medicare-Eligible Retiree Health Care Fund received a qualified opinion on its fiscal year 2011 financial statement. In November 2011, an examination of five business processes at the initial General Fund Enterprise Business Systems Wave 1 sites rendered a qualified opinion, establishing a benchmark for expanding the Army's audit readiness program. In November 2011, a commercial audit examination validated that the Air Force could successfully balance its Treasury funds at the transaction level. In January 2012, an examination validated the Navy's existence and completeness audit readiness assertion for ships and submarines, Trident missiles, and satellites. Leadership commitment from the highest level is setting the tone and priority for audit readiness. Auditability is a goal that every commander, every manager, and every functional specialist must understand and embrace to improve efficiency and accountability within DOD. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator David Vitter BARKSDALE AIR FORCE BASE 202. Senator Vitter. General Dempsey, in your statement submitted today, you say, ``We must retrain our personnel on skills used less often over the last decade.'' I support this, and I also believe that in line with this we must make cuts that do not negatively affect the joint effort of our overall training system that has led the United States to become the highly effective elite fighting force it is today. Which brings me to the Air Force announcement to cut all 24 A-10s from Barksdale AFB (21 eliminated, 3 transferred) according to Air Force documents. It is my understanding that the Air Force plans to largely reduce the total number of A-10s. I believe this hugely effects fundamental joint operations. These aircraft were specifically moved to Barksdale AFB to support joint training at the Joint Readiness Training Center (JRTC) at Fort Polk. My concern is that the A-10s slated to be cut entirely from Barksdale AFB are used to support the joint training mission of the Army in Fort Polk. Have the joint operational training aspects been considered in this decision? General Dempsey. Yes, the Air Force continues to source requests for close air support (CAS) training at Fort Polk, tasking specific units to support various exercises, with the 47th Fighter Squadron fulfilling the requirement once over the last 3 fiscal years. The Air Force has coordinated with the Army and will continue to provide CAS capability as required by our Joint Partners at the JRTC. The new Defense Strategic Guidance states that U.S. forces will no longer be sized to conduct large-scale, prolonged stability operations. Analysis based on scenarios consistent with the Strategic Guidance resulted in a reduced requirement for tactical combat aircraft overall and a greater utility for multi-role fighters to provide the most flexible capability within each scenario. As a result, A-10 retirements were selected in greater numbers than other combat aircraft and the Air Force made the difficult choice to retire 5 A-10 squadrons comprised of 102 A-10 aircraft. Previous reductions in fighter force structure shifted the Total Force ratio toward Reserve component forces, and Air Force decisions in the fiscal year 2013 President's budget request rebalanced that ratio to create a more sustainable Total Force structure over the long term. To meet this end, our Reserve component used the following four Capstone principles: (1) ensure aircraft reductions do not negatively impact operational support to combatant commands; (2) ensure force structure movements do not create any new Air Force bills; (3) ensure risk is minimized by optimizing crew ratios to exploit expected increases in mission capability rates; and (4) consider locations that continue to have an Air Force mission due to the presence of another Air Force component. Thus, the Air Force opted to divest A-10s at Barksdale versus the only other alternative; Whiteman AFB. The Air Force Reserve maintains a B-52 training wing and classic association with operational B-52s at Barksdale, and can therefore absorb some of the A-10 personnel into the B-52 wing. Additionally, since the Air Force Reserve can absorb personnel into the B-52 mission, it preserves the potential to migrate them back should the Air Force decide it needs additional A-10 Formal Training Unit support. At Whiteman AFB, the Air Force Reserves' only presence is an A-10 wing and if the wing were to be divested, the personnel assigned to this unit would have limited possibilities to continue their service. 203. Senator Vitter. General Dempsey, additionally, I would like to know if you are aware of any consultation between the Army and the Air Force regarding the removal of this mission from Fort Polk? If so, I would like to see the cost savings to DOD of bringing A-10s into Louisiana for training when the nearest planes needed for Army training would now be located in Georgia, Florida, Idaho, or Arizona. General Dempsey. The Air Force has coordinated with the Army and will continue to provide CAS capability as required by our Joint Partners at the JRTC. The Air Force has not performed a specific cost analysis of using aircraft outside of Louisiana. The Air Force continues to source requests for CAS training at Fort Polk, tasking specific units to support various exercises. Over the last 12 months, the 47th Fighter Squadron has provided 14 percent of the CAS requirements for nine JRTC exercises while other CAS was provided from outside the State of Louisiana. 204. Senator Vitter. Secretary Panetta, as a follow-up on the joint operations aspect in Fort Polk, this action would appear, instead of reducing overall military spending, to oppose your own recent guidance to reexamine our programs in pursuit of greater efficiencies and affordability to defense operations. I fully understand and support improving efficiencies within the U.S. Government. However, in your own words you have stated, while not specifically addressing the A-10s, that cuts of this nature would do serious damage to DOD's ability to ``protect this country for the future . . . and we must avoid a hollow force, and maintain a military that will always be ready, agile, deployable, and capable.'' It is my opinion that we cannot have it both ways. We cannot strip away the A-10s from Barksdale while also maintaining the force necessary at Fort Polk without increasing cost of operations. I am aware there will be A-10s remaining in the inventory should the Air Force retire the ones stationed at Barksdale AFB. But of all the units to be disbanded, it appears to me that the A-10s located at Barksdale AFB were strategically located there to satisfy a specific requirement that is not going away. Is it fair to say that the A-10 training mission at Fort Polk is an existing requirement that is not going away anytime in the near future? Secretary Panetta. The new Defense Strategic Guidance states that U.S. Forces will no longer be sized to conduct large-scale, prolonged stability operations. Analysis based on scenarios consistent with the Strategic Guidance resulted in a reduced requirement for tactical combat aircraft and a preference for multi-role fighters to provide the most flexible capability within each scenario. As a result, A-10 retirements were selected in lieu of other combat aircraft and the Air Force made the difficult choice to retire 5 A-10 squadrons comprised of 102 A-10 aircraft. Previous reductions in fighter force structure shifted the Total Force ratio toward Reserve component forces, and Air Force decisions in the fiscal year 2013 President's budget request (20 A-10s from Active Duty, 61 from the Air National Guard, and 21 from the Air Force Reserves) rebalanced that ratio to create a more sustainable force structure over the long term. In conjunction with Air Force Reserve leadership, the Air Force made the difficult decision to select Barksdale AFB as the sole Air Force Reserve A-10 unit closure. The Air Force does not anticipate any impacts to support training operations at the JRTC. We will continue to fill U.S. Army training requests for air-to-ground support through the normal Global Force Management Allocation process, matching requirements with available CAS-capable units across the Air Force, versus a specific squadron and type of aircraft. 205. Senator Vitter. Secretary Panetta, Global Strike Command at Barksdale AFB was stood up in December 2009 to improve the safety, security, and effectiveness of the Nation's nuclear-capable assets following the 2007 nuclear weapons incident. As DOD reinvests in key areas across the nuclear enterprise, I would imagine Global Strike Command will have a prominent role, including in the development of the new bomber program. What are your thoughts on the triad in general and the Air Force's commitment to keeping Global Strike Command as an independent command at Barksdale AFB, given some of the lessons we have learned? Secretary Panetta. Maintaining the nuclear triad is essential to U.S. national security. Each leg of the triad provides characteristics that, combined in a balanced manner, create a synergy producing a total deterrent effect. Air Force Global Strike Command, as the major command with operational responsibility for land-based ICBMs and nuclear- capable heavy bombers, plays an essential role in providing the deterrent effects contributing to strategic stability. Since Air Force Global Strike Command falls under the Air Force's Title X organize, train, and equip responsibilities, any decisions regarding Air Force Global Strike Command as an independent command would be an internal Air Force decision. With the stand-up of Air Force Global Strike Command, the Air Force aligned its strategic operational nuclear units under a single command to best carry out organize, train, and equip functions. As the Air Force's newest major command, its positive impact was confirmed by the April 2011 Defense Science Board's independent assessment of the Air Force nuclear enterprise stating, ``The formation of Air Force Global Strike Command has produced a nearly universally positive response in the nuclear operating forces.'' [Whereupon, at 1:50 p.m., the committee adjourned.] DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM ---------- TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2012 U.S. Senate, Committee on Armed Services, Washington, DC. U.S. PACIFIC COMMAND AND U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:34 a.m. in room SD-106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Carl Levin (chairman) presiding. Committee members present: Senators Levin, Lieberman, Reed, Akaka, Webb, Hagan, Blumenthal, Inhofe, Chambliss, Wicker, Brown, Ayotte, and Cornyn. Committee staff members present: Richard D. DeBobes, staff director; and Leah C. Brewer, nominations and hearings clerk. Majority staff members present: Richard W. Fieldhouse, professional staff member; Creighton Greene, professional staff member; Michael J. Kuiken, professional staff member; Jason W. Maroney, counsel; Roy F. Phillips, professional staff member; and Russell L. Shaffer, counsel. Minority staff members present: Ann E. Sauer, minority staff director; Adam J. Barker, professional staff member; Pablo E. Carrillo, minority investigative counsel; Paul C. Hutton IV, professional staff member; Daniel A. Lerner, professional staff member; Lucian L. Niemeyer, professional staff member; and Diana G. Tabler, professional staff member. Staff assistants present: Kathleen A. Kulenkampff, Brian F. Sebold, and Bradley S. Watson. Committee members' assistants present: Brian Burton, assistant to Senator Lieberman; Carolyn Chuhta, assistant to Senator Reed; Nick Ikeda, assistant to Senator Akaka; Gordon Peterson, assistant to Senator Webb; Patrick Hayes, assistant to Senator Manchin; Chad Kreikemeier, assistant to Senator Shaheen; Ethan Saxon, assistant to Senator Blumenthal; Anthony Lazarski, assistant to Senator Inhofe; Clyde Taylor IV, assistant to Senator Chambliss; Joseph Lai, assistant to Senator Wicker; William Wright, assistant to Senator Brown; Brad Bowman, assistant to Senator Ayotte; and Dave Hanke, assistant to Senator Cornyn. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR CARL LEVIN, CHAIRMAN Chairman Levin. Good morning, everybody. Today we receive testimony on the posture of U.S. forces in the Asia Pacific and the status of the U.S. military strategic global distribution and deployment capabilities. On behalf of the committee, I'd like to welcome Admiral Robert F. Willard, Commander, USN, U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM), and General William M. Fraser III, USAF, Commander, U.S. Transportation Command (TRANSCOM). The committee appreciates your years of faithful service and the many sacrifices that you and your families make for our Nation. Likewise, we greatly appreciate the service of the men and women, military and civilian, who serve with you in your commands. Please convey to them our admiration and our appreciation for their selfless dedication. Admiral Willard, this will be, in all likelihood, your last hearing before this committee after a full and productive tour as commander of our forces in the Pacific. On behalf of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I'd like to thank you for your service and your leadership in this important assignment. Before and beyond that, your decades of selfless and devoted service to our Nation included assignments as Commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, Vice Chief of Naval Operations, Commander of the U.S. Seventh Fleet, and Commanding Officer of the air carrier USS Abraham Lincoln. I note that your wife, Donna, is here this morning, as she has been in past hearings. I'd also like to especially thank her for her many contributions and sacrifices. We all know very well the importance of our military families to the success of our Armed Forces and we wish you and the entire Willard family the very best in the future. This is General Fraser's first hearing as Commander of TRANSCOM. As we heard from the Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff earlier this month, the President's recently unveiled defense strategic guidance includes a reemphasis on the Asia Pacific, a region that is impacted by what has been called the tyranny of distance, which puts a premium on the capabilities provided by TRANSCOM. Capabilities that have been stressed and honed over more than 10 years of military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. So we also look forward to General Fraser's testimony on the status of TRANSCOM and its important global mission. Relative to the Asia Pacific, the United States has been, and will continue to be, present and active in the region because of our commitments to our allies and our partners, and also because of the clear U.S. national interests there. The leadership change in North Korea occasioned by the recent death of long-time dictator Kim Jong Il opens new questions about possible future threats from an oppressive regime that has shown little interest in cooperating with the international community and little concern for the well being of its people. We are mindful that the security situation on the Korean Peninsula remains tense and as of yet there are no indications that the situation will improve under the new regime. North Korea continues to pursue its nuclear and ballistic missile programs and, with its history of deadly unprovoked military attacks on South Korea, there is little reason for optimism for a prompt resolution of the tensions on the peninsula. In fact, over the weekend North Korea issued its usual threats in response to the military training exercises conducted by the United States and South Korea every year at this time. China's rising global influence and rapid military growth, coupled with the overbreadth of its claims in the South China Sea and the East China Sea, and its increasing propensity for challenging conflicting claims of its regional neighbors, unsettles the region and raises concerns about the prospects of miscalculation. There are also growing concerns about China's exploration of cyber space for military and for nonmilitary purposes, such as the use of the Internet by Chinese entities to conduct corporate espionage. In the current National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), we acted against counterfeit electronic parts in defense systems, most of which came from China. Nonetheless, it is important that we continue efforts to engage with the People's Liberation Army (PLA) and to attempt to find common ground and to address common concerns. There are many other challenges facing PACOM, such as preventing the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMD), countering violent extremism, providing humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, and protecting critical sea lanes of communication. Against the backdrop of these developments, the Department of Defense (DOD) has been working to realign U.S. military forces in countries like South Korea and Japan and also to posture our forces further to the south in countries like Australia, Singapore, and possibly the Philippines. As we rebalance and realign our presence in the Asia Pacific, it is important that we get it right, not only in terms of strategy, but also in terms of sustainability. With respect to the realignment of U.S. marines on Okinawa, Senator McCain, Senator Webb, and I have advocated changes to the current plan in ways that support the strategic goals of the U.S. military posture in the region, while also accounting for the fiscal, political, and diplomatic realities associated with long-term sustainability. The recent announcement that the United States and Japan are reconsidering elements of the plan is welcome news. But the new thinking is not yet adequate. For instance, there is apparently no intention yet to reconsider the plan to build the unaffordable Futenma Replacement Facility at Camp Schwab on Okinawa. Nor does it appear that the Air Force bases in the region are being considered as part of the solution. It is important that any changes be jointly agreed upon and jointly announced, with the goal of achieving a more viable and sustainable U.S. presence in Japan and on Guam. So, Admiral, we will look forward to your testimony on our strategy in your area of responsibility (AOR) and how the fiscal year 2013 budget request adequately addresses the threats that you face and how it reflects the reemphasis on the Asia Pacific. General Fraser, we know that things have been busy for you as well ever since you assumed your job at TRANSCOM. TRANSCOM continues to play a vital role in transporting our military men and women and the supplies and equipment that they need to Afghanistan and other overseas contingency operations. In carrying out this mission, TRANSCOM faces numerous challenges, included among them,uncertain lines of supply due to the disruption or closure of routes through Pakistan. TRANSCOM has successfully shifted much of the delivery of non-lethal supplies and equipment headed for Afghanistan to the Northern Distribution Network (NDN) through Eastern Europe, the Caucasus, and Central Asia. During the past year, TRANSCOM forces were involved in supporting forces engaged in operations in Libya and humanitarian relief efforts such as those supporting victims of the Japanese earthquake and tsunami. We applaud all of these efforts. With the drawdown of U.S. surge forces and further reductions of U.S. forces in Afghanistan through 2014, TRANSCOM now faces the daunting task of managing the redeployment home of these forces and their equipment. We know that TRANSCOM performed commendably in managing the removal of millions of pieces of equipment from Iraq by the December 31, 2011, deadline, consistent with the U.S. obligations under the U.S.- Iraq strategic agreement. We would be interested, General, in learning how the lessons learned from the withdrawal from Iraq inform TRANSCOM's planning and operations as U.S. forces are drawn down in Afghanistan. A number of other issues confront TRANSCOM. One is modernizing the force. One acquisition program supporting TRANSCOM has received a lot of visibility and that's the Strategic Tanker Modernization Program. There have been indications that the contractor may overrun the original development contract price, which we will discuss with the Air Force at the Air Force posture hearing later this month. TRANSCOM has received congressional additions to the budget to buy C-17 aircraft in excess of what DOD and TRANSCOM said were needed to support wartime requirements. Last year, the Air Force was granted authority to retire additional C-5A aircraft as it was taking delivery of those added C-17s. This year, the Air Force is seeking authorization to retire all remaining C-5A aircraft because they believe that they do not need the extra aircraft under the new DOD strategic planning assumptions and that they cannot afford to operate them. We need to be sure that the Air Force's planned retirements do not leave us short of the strategic lift capability that we need, and General Fraser, you can speak to that issue. TRANSCOM is also facing other, less well-known modernization challenges. The Ready Reserve Force (RRF), a group of cargo ships held in readiness by the Maritime Administration, is aging and will need to be modernized with newer ships at some point in the not too distant future. Sealift may not be quite as glamorous as airlift operations, but sealift support is critical to our Nation's capabilities. We have relied on sealift to deliver more than 90 percent of the cargo to Iraq and Afghanistan, and that is similar to previous contingencies. So, Admiral, General, it's a pleasure to have you with us this morning. We look forward to your testimony on these and other challenging topics; and I now call on Senator Inhofe. STATEMENT OF SENATOR JAMES M. INHOFE Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Admiral Willard and General Fraser, for your selfless service for so many years and your willingness to cooperate and have personal conversations. Thank you so much. Admiral Willard, I agree with everything you wrote in your final assessment of the strategic environment in the Asia- Pacific region and its significance to the U.S. security. However, I am concerned about what appears to me to be a shift in focus to Asia and to the Pacific. The United States is a global power. We have global threats out there and we need to be on all fronts. History has taught this Nation that it can't ignore its global responsibilities and threats. I am deeply concerned about the proposed $487 billion cut in defense in the next 10 years. When you stop and think about it, the possibility of sequestration could double that amount. It's very disturbing to me. I think these cuts jeopardize reset of equipment and delay modification and maintenance of key equipment, cut overall research and development (R&D), delay modernization, and increase the burden on a shrinking military force. Our military must possess the ability to deter aggression and, if required, aggressively defeat any threat against our citizens at home and around the world. Both TRANSCOM and PACOM are essential elements to our national defense strategy and must be manned, equipped, and maintained to ensure our national interests throughout the world. In PACOM's AOR, I am increasingly concerned about North Korea and the rising power in China, both economically and militarily. North Korea has historically proved difficult for the intelligence community to gather information. I will have some specific questions about that, some of the things that have happened in the past, and I want to get your assurance as to where we're going to be going in the future. We're obligated by law to support Taiwan. We all want to do that anyway. We have to continue to sell advanced military equipment to them to ensure their safety and security. General Fraser, your statement portrays a very active supporting commander role. TRANSCOM and its components--the Air Mobility Command (AMC) and the Military Sealift Command (MSC)-- have accelerated the redeployment of over 60,000 troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. It continues to provide logistical support to Afghanistan forces and to deploy and redeploy troops and cargo worldwide. It has supported military operations in Libya and delivered relief support in response to natural disasters at home and around the world. No other country could provide such in-depth support anywhere. While President Obama's 2013 budget submission represents a snapshot of the Services' overall requirements, it also raises several questions about our military airlift and sealift programs. Is the Air Force taking appropriate action to mitigate the potential gap in airlift and the operational implications of that gap? What is the risk in TRANSCOM's ability along with its maritime component, MSC, to provide logistics around the globe in response to the combatant commanders' requirements? How does the proposed force structure cut fit with the findings of the mobility, capabilities, and requirements study of 2016, written in 2009? Given the current climate for fiscal austerity, we have to do our part in executing our jobs more efficiently. It's very disturbing to a lot of us that when we have the President's-- now that all the results are in on his budget, that he's actually given us this $5.3 trillion deficit and the only area that I can see where we've had reductions in capability and in funding are in the area of military. So it's something that's very disturbing to me. I know in these hearings it's hard to get down to these things, but I do enjoy the personal conversations and the concern that's been expressed by a lot of our military that I run into here as well as abroad with what's happening to our military right now. So I'm looking forward to this hearing, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Admiral. STATEMENT OF ADM ROBERT F. WILLARD, USN, COMMANDER, U.S. PACIFIC COMMAND Admiral Willard. Thank you, Chairman Levin. Mr. Chairman, in order to accommodate the committee's questions sooner, I'll keep my remarks brief and ask that my full statement be included for the record. Chairman Levin. It will be. All statements will be included. Admiral Willard. Chairman Levin, Senator Inhofe: Thank you for this opportunity to appear before you to discuss PACOM and the Asia-Pacific region. I'd like to begin by thanking you for recognizing my wife, Donna, who's present here today and has been by my side for nearly 38 years. She's an outstanding ambassador for our Nation and a tireless advocate for the men and women of our military and their families. Together we've thoroughly enjoyed this experience with our counterpart foreign friends and with all of you who advocate for our men and women in uniform. I'd like to acknowledge this committee's enduring support for our joint forces and by your actions their contribution to our Nation's security. Your visits to the region have been and will continue to be an important reminder of U.S. interests there. President Obama and SECDEF Panetta recently reaffirmed the strategic importance of the Asia-Pacific region and our Nation's future focus on its security challenges in the document titled ``Sustaining U.S. Global Leadership, Priorities for the 21st Century Defense.'' It appropriately addressed the opportunities and challenges that PACOM faces in a region covering half the world and containing the majority of great powers, economies, populations, and militaries. Importantly, our five treaty allies, Australia, Japan, South Korea, Republic of the Philippines, and Thailand, together with many regional partners, represent the greatest opportunities for the United States and PACOM to contribute to a broad security association in the region. Of particular note, we seek to advance our important relationship with India in South Asia. We're making progress in adjusting PACOM's force posture towards Southeast Asia following overtures from Australia, Singapore, and the Philippines to help enable an increased rotational U.S. military presence in this important sub-region. As was evidenced by U.S. support to Japan during their epic triple disaster last March, close military cooperation, frequent exercises, and interoperable systems merged to enable rapid and effective combined military responses under the most trying conditions. In contrast, North Korea, the world's only remaining nation divided by armistice, continues to threaten peace and security in northeast Asia, now under the leadership of a 29-year-old son of Kim Jong Il. We're observing closely for signs of instability or evidence that the leadership transition is faltering. As General Thurman will attest when he testifies, we believe Kim Jong Eunto be tightly surrounded by Kim Jong Il associates and for the time being the succession appears to be on course. That said, we also believe Kim Jong Eun will continue to pursue his father's course of strategy that embraces nuclearization, missile development, WMD proliferation, provocations, and totalitarian control over North Korean society. Management of the U.S.-China relationship continues to be a challenge at many levels. Our military-to-military relationship is not where it should be, although a strategic-level exchange of views with DOD persisted during 2011. The PLA continues to advance its military capabilities at an impressive rate. It's growing bolder with regard to their expanded regional and global presence, and China continues to challenge the United States and our partners in the region in the maritime, cyber, and space domains. Nonetheless, we remain committed to evolving this security relationship, with the objective of coexisting peacefully and both contributing constructively to regional security. Throughout the Asia Pacific, numerous transnational threats such as violent extremist organizations, proliferation, trafficking, piracy, and perpetual natural and manmade disasters challenge our Nation and our allies and partners in the region. Across this wide spectrum of current and potential future threats, PACOM must provide persistent overwatch, ensuring our Nation retains continued strategic access and freedom of movement in the global commons there. Amidst these challenges, every day our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and civilians devote their efforts to contributing to Asia Pacific security. Their success has long been enabled by this committee's enduring support, including the resources and quality of life you provide them to accomplish their important missions. During the 2\1/2\ years that I've been in command, you've allowed me and my commanders to share our perspectives with you, sought to understand the dynamics of this complex region, and traveled and met with our military families and foreign partners. Yours has been a powerful message in demonstration of United States commitment to the 36 nations within the PACOM AOR. On behalf of the more than 330,000 men and women of PACOM, thank you for your support and for this opportunity to testify one final time. I look forward to your questions. [The prepared statement of Admiral Willard follows:] Prepared Statement by ADM Robert F. Willard, USN INTRODUCTION Chairman Levin, Senator McCain and distinguished members of the committee, thank you for this opportunity to present an update on U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM). I consider myself fortunate to have served as its commander for the last 2\1/2\ years and look forward to providing what will be my final assessment of the strategic environment in the Asia-Pacific region. The President has directed his national security team to make America's ``presence and mission in the Asia Pacific a top priority.'' The testimony that follows will highlight the opportunities we seek to illuminate and address the challenges we must overcome to sustain U.S. leadership in this critical area of the world. STRATEGIC ENVIRONMENT IN THE ASIA PACIFIC The security of the PACOM Area of Responsibility (AOR) is of vital national interest to the United States--a fact underscored by the President's hosting of last year's Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Leaders Meeting. The region contains the world's three largest economies and supports over $10 trillion of annual bilateral merchandise trade, including more than $1 trillion of U.S. commerce. The Asia Pacific also hosts the world's largest populations, largest militaries, and includes three nuclear armed states (excluding the United States) and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) which aspires to be a nuclear power. While the Asia Pacific has remained relatively peaceful and stable for the past 6 decades, myriad challenges to its future security will try U.S. resolve, raise the magnitude of our relationships with five treaty allies and many strategic partners, and test PACOM as a principle guarantor of security in the region. Seven major security challenges confront the United States across this region, which encompasses half of the Earth's surface, including: Defense of the Homeland, U.S. territories, and compact states in the Pacific. The need to continuously manage and optimize U.S. alliances and strengthen regional partnerships, in particular, advancing the relationship with India. The threat posed by the DPRK's nuclear aspirations, proliferation, provocations, and potential to cause regional instability. China's military modernization--in particular its active development of capabilities in the cyber and space domains--and the questions all these emerging military capabilities raise among China's neighbors about its current and long-term intentions. Three nuclear armed states, including Russia, China, and India, and North Korea's nuclear aspirations, together with the threat of weapons of mass destruction proliferation. Numerous transnational threats, ranging from proliferation, trafficking of narcotics and persons, and piracy, to persistent natural and manmade disasters. Challenges to freedom of access to, and security within, maritime and air domains, and space and cyberspace, by both state and non-state actors. By contrast, the Asia Pacific also affords immense opportunities, particularly through strong ally and partner associations, that can lead to a cooperative and constructive security environment for the foreseeable future. In large measure, cooperative engagement activities leveraging PACOM posture and presence contribute to advancing military self-sufficiency and security contributions by our partners in the region. Force Posture Assessment Generally, PACOM has been well served with regard to on-hand, ready forces with the ability to respond to the demands in the Asia-Pacific region. This has occurred despite a decade of wars in the Middle East, to include the Command's continual contributions to those wars. As a consequence of both history and the nature of challenges in Northeast Asia, PACOM forward, permanently based forces are concentrated in Japan and the Republic of Korea. While affording a strong deterrent against challengers such as North Korea, this has placed a premium on PACOM's ability to deploy and sustain forces elsewhere in order to maintain the required presence in sub-regions such as Southeast Asia, South Asia, and Oceania. PACOM's input to the most recent Global Posture Review expressed a need to redistribute postured forces closer to Southeast Asia and South Asia, in order to more efficiently meet the force presence and response demands of those Asia Pacific sub-regions. The recent decisions to rotationally operate a Marine Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF) from Darwin, Australia and to operate U.S. air forces from Australia's northern air bases were initial efforts to rebalance PACOM force posture for the future. While the Asia Pacific is often regarded as inherently maritime and contains some of the world's most expansive archipelagos, strategic chokepoints and largest seas and oceans, its militaries tend to be army-focused. For PACOM, this generates posture and presence considerations to both adapt forces to the maritime challenges of the region and to account for the necessary and effective role that Army, Marine Corps, and Special Forces play in engaging with the dominant foreign services of our regional partners. NORTHEAST ASIA Northeast Asia (NEA) contains many of the most significant economies and militaries in the Asia Pacific and the world, including Japan, South Korea, China, and Russia. U.S. forward presence, permanent basing in Japan and South Korea, habitual accesses, and host nation support in this important sub-region enable PACOM's front line of homeland defense, extended deterrence for allies Japan and South Korea, regional deterrence against actors such as North Korea, and rapid response to natural disasters and other contingencies that occur in the Asia Pacific. The DPRK continues to pose one of the most likely and persistent threats to the United States, its allies, and to peace and security in Northeast Asia. North Korea's conventional military threat to the Republic of Korea remains of serious concern and its nuclear program, missile development, proliferation activities, and asymmetric military provocations are destabilizing. Collectively, these threats demand that PACOM Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities and capacities be sufficiently robust to view across the DPRK's military apparatus and warn of unfavorable developments. North Korea's continuing pursuit of nuclear weapons and advanced ballistic missile systems places a premium on PACOM ballistic missile defenses and close cooperation with allies. Japan and the Republic of Korea are strong U.S. allies that host U.S. forces, benefit from U.S. extended deterrence, and stand with the United States in containing DPRK aggression in addition to meeting other regional and global security challenges. Japan The 52-year-old alliance between the United States and Japan remains a cornerstone of security in the Asia Pacific. As was evident in U.S. support to the Japanese Self Defense Forces (JSDF) during the epic triple disaster in eastern Honshu last year, the extremely close association and inherent interoperability between tenant U.S. forward forces and their Japanese hosts enable prompt and extremely effective contingency responses under the most trying of circumstances. Despite delays in implementing some elements of the Defense Policy Review Initiative (DPRI), including the Futenma airfield replacement facility in Okinawa, which has occupied policymakers for nearly 20 years, the alliance remains strong and is a powerful strategic stabilizing force in the region. It is important to note that of the 19 separate elements contained in DPRI, the vast majority are on track and progressing. In the past year, Japan has increased its regional engagements and association with partners such as Australia, India, Singapore, Indonesia, and the Republic of Korea, to name a few. Republic of Korea The U.S.-Republic of Korea alliance remains a strong and visible deterrent to war on the peninsula. This alliance is also transforming in a variety of ways to remain current and relevant in the midst of an ever-evolving Asia-Pacific region, changing leadership in North Korea and as a consequence of lessons learned following the deadly provocations by the DPRK in 2010. Current alliance initiatives are underpinned by the planned transition of wartime operational control from the Combined Forces Command to the Republic of Korea in December 2015. Ongoing transformation also includes the repositioning of on-peninsula U.S. forces, headquarters, and bases. Like the JSDF, Republic of Korea military forces are engaging throughout the Asia Pacific at an increasing rate, and contributing to international security initiatives, such as peacekeeping, counterpiracy, and counterproliferation efforts. Trilateral Cooperation While modest in scope, trilateral cooperation between the United States, Japan, and the Republic of Korea continues to progress. This important initiative seeks to strengthen the natural synergy among three powerful and interoperable Northeast Asia allies. While the countries will have to overcome longstanding historical, cultural, and political dynamics to fully realize the potential of trilateral cooperation, policy advances and increasingly frank dialogue among the three allies are encouraging. Russia Russia's Pacific armed forces are very gradually emerging from their diminishment following the end of the Cold War. Increased naval and strategic air force operations, cyberspace activities, and arms sales throughout the Asia Pacific are signaling Russia's emphasis on improved posture in the region. PACOM enjoys a generally positive military-to-military relationship with Russia, particularly between respective Pacific fleets. In coordination with U.S. European Command and in accordance with the bilateral Military Cooperation Work Plan, PACOM seeks improved engagement with Russia's Pacific forces in areas such as counterterrorism (CT), peacekeeping, and search-and-rescue operations. Mongolia Mongolia is a small but important partner in Northeast Asia. Its active military pursues close engagement with PACOM through our annual Khan Quest exercise series and contributes effectively to coalition efforts in Afghanistan as well as global peacekeeping operations. With Russia to the north and China to the south, Mongolia must finesse its relationships in NEA with its broader security interests. As a consequence of its experience as part of the Soviet bloc in the 20th century, the Mongolian armed forces continue to maintain ties to European nations such as Germany and even the DPRK, making them a PACOM partner with unique and insightful perspectives. The People's Republic of China China's growing presence and influence in Asia, and the opportunities and uncertainties that have resulted from it pose the greatest test for PACOM among its seven challenge areas. In January 2011, President Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao agreed to ``build a cooperative partnership based on mutual interest and mutual respect,'' which also included a commitment to develop ``continuous, stable, and reliable military-to-military relations.'' To meet this mandate, PACOM is effectively positioned to contribute to advancing military engagement with the PRC. However, military-to- military relations continue to lag well behind other U.S.-China engagements for three main reasons: differences in philosophy regarding the purpose of military-to-military relations in which China emphasizes strategic dialogue and the United States seeks comprehensive military contact from the strategic to tactical levels as a way to build confidence; China's tendency to suspend military-to-military following U.S. arms sales to Taiwan and, more generally, its linkage between certain U.S. defense policies and continuous bilateral military relations; and inherent Chinese distrust of U.S. regional intentions resulting in demands that perceived impediments to the relationship be conceded before military relations can advance. Despite these challenges, China's increasing participation in regional and international security activities and forums such as multi-lateral exercises, counter piracy operations, and peacekeeping can foster informal, but useful U.S.-China military engagement. Improvements in China's military capabilities and the regional uncertainties this has created also test PACOM's ability to manage the evolving security dynamics in the Asia Pacific. Areas in which U.S. national interests or those of U.S. allies and partners are being challenged include cyberspace and space as well as maritime security in the international waters around China. China's anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) capabilities extend well into the South China Sea. China asserts these military developments are purely defensive in nature and that it poses no threat to neighbors in the region. Yet, combined with broad maritime and sovereignty claims and incidents with lawful operators in the South China Sea and East China Sea, there is ongoing international concern regarding China's activities in the South China Sea. Taiwan Following Taiwan's recent Presidential and Legislative Yuan elections in January 2011, many analysts are hopeful that improvements in cross-Strait relations will continue, with a focus on building economic and cultural ties. This is in the security interests of the United States and of Asia. It is important to note, however, that Taiwan remains the most acute sovereignty issue for China and the main driver of its military modernization programs. The military balance across the Taiwan Strait continues to shift in favor of China. PACOM engages regularly with Taiwan's military within policy guidelines and in accordance with tenets of the Taiwan Relations Act and three communiques. SOUTHEAST ASIA Southeast Asia (SEA) is an extremely diverse sub-region, rich in natural resources, and strategically located at the crossroads of the Pacific and Indian Oceans. It is host to a mix of democratic and authoritarian governments, varied economies, contrasting military capabilities, and mixed cultures. Prospects for continued economic growth are promising, mainly due to China's substantial economic influence, steady U.S. regional investment and trade, and universal global interest, by the European Union and others, in capitalizing on Asia's rise. Many advancing U.S. partnerships and two U.S. treaty allies, the Republic of the Philippines and the Royal Kingdom of Thailand, are concentrated in this sub-region. Further, the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and its numerous forums, together with the East Asian Summit (EAS) and APEC, have advanced to become the most effective Asia Pacific multilateral organizations. That said, SEA is not without its challenges. Disputed islands and features in the South China Sea, including territorial disputes with China, have generated broad unease in SEA, and maritime security has become a regular theme in multilateral forums. Transnational threats, including violent extremist organizations (VEOs) such as Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) and Jemaah Islamiya (JI); trafficking in narcotics and humans; piracy; proliferation; and natural and manmade disasters regularly combine to challenge PACOM, U.S. allies and partners in this sub-region. Resources such as water, food and energy are being pressurized across the region, as illustrated by the Mekong River Delta crisis. Geography is also a factor as SEA contains some of the most extensive archipelagos in the world, including Indonesia and the Philippines, and some of the world's most strategic choke points, such as the Strait of Malacca. Despite this vast maritime domain where naval capabilities and capacities are called for, most SEA militaries are army-centric and assigned internal security responsibilities. Consequently, few nations are self-sufficient militarily. PACOM's has focused its engagement on advancing the self-sufficiency of the partner militaries in the region. Programs such as International Military Education and Training (IMET) are vital to enhancing the education level of military leaders and promoting a network of military-to- military relations that contribute to broader security cooperation in SEA. Philippines Underpinned by the 1951 Mutual Defense Treaty, the U.S.-Philippines alliance is an important strategic icon in SEA. Adjoining the South China Sea, this vast island nation straddles several strategic sea lines of communication (SLOCs) and chokepoints, claims a number of disputed islands and features in the South China Sea, and contends with several internal insurgent movements and VEOs, such as JI and ASG, with assistance from U.S. forces. Possessing an army-centric military as a result of its internal security challenges, the Philippines has recently begun to focus on improving the ability of its navy and air forces to secure the vast maritime area defined by the Philippine archipelago. As a consequence, PACOM security assistance is focused primarily on supporting the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) in CT efforts in southern Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago, and advancing AFP naval and air capabilities. Improving maritime domain awareness is another primary focus of U.S. security assistance, and we hope to provide a second Hamilton-class Coast Guard cutter to the Philippines this year. Joint Special Operations Task Force-Philippines has operated in a strictly non-combat role in support of the AFP for the past 8 years in the largely successful efforts to contain ASG and JI VEOs. Additionally, PACOM engages with the Philippines through the Joint Staff-sponsored exercise Balikatan, as well as through annual military- to-military consultations, periodic Pacific Partnership missions, and numerous Service component-led exercises. We welcome recent U.S.-Philippine discussions regarding opportunities to increase joint training with our AFP counterparts, possibly supported by enhanced rotational access to AFP facilities by PACOM forces. Thailand I would begin by offering my personal condolences to the Thai people for the losses they suffered in 2011 during the most devastating flood their country has experienced in 50 years. Their response to this disaster, particularly with regard to containment of potential infectious diseases, was a testament to Thailand's resilience and self sufficiency. Thailand is an enduring U.S. ally in SEA and a valuable security partner. They are co-host (with PACOM) to the largest multilateral exercise series in SEA, Cobra Gold, and provide liberal access and logistics support for transiting PACOM aircraft and ships at their military facilities. The United States and Thailand have twice partnered to combat piracy off the Horn of Africa, deploying Thai naval vessels with U.S. Navy personnel onboard to Combined Task Force-151, which Thailand will take command of in the coming year. Additionally, the Royal Thai Army assisted U.N. humanitarian relief operations in Darfur with a battalion of peacekeepers. Despite facing challenges such as land and maritime border disputes with neighboring, Cambodia, refugee incursions from Burma, a longstanding ethnic insurgency in the south, and transnational challenges such as narcotics and human trafficking, the Thai armed forces are capable and generally self-sufficient. Singapore Our bilateral relationship with Singapore continues to strengthen and broaden. Singapore armed forces comprise a small, but extremely capable military. Their main focus continues to be security within the Strait of Malacca and Singapore Strait and they cooperate with Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand in conducting security patrols within the Straits against piracy and other illicit activities. Singapore's armed forces are also deployed to Afghanistan, working alongside coalition partners to develop the Afghan National Security Forces. Within the context of the 2005 Strategic Framework Agreement, both militaries are seeking to increase engagement across all PACOM Service components. Singapore's offer to host U.S. Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) at Changi naval station will enhance PACOM's SEA posture. Indonesia As the relationship between the United States and Indonesia--the world's fourth most populous nation, third largest democracy, and largest Muslim-majority country--continues to advance, the PACOM-TNI relationship is progressing, as well. Following a decade of political, economic, and military reform, Indonesia has surfaced as a vibrant democracy, an emerging economy, and a competent military power. In areas such as disaster risk reduction, CT, Humanitarian Assistance/ Disaster Relief (HA/DR), and peacekeeping operations, Indonesia is increasingly recognized for its leadership role. Indonesia and the United States were recently designated co-chairs of the Experts Working Group on Counterterrorism for the ASEAN Defense Ministers Meeting-Plus. This initiative seeks to encourage greater regional CT cooperation, build capacity, and collectively address regional security issues in an open consultative forum. Following a 12-year hiatus, PACOM has reestablished security cooperation activities with the Indonesian Kopassus army special forces. The measured pace with which this engagement has advanced has included key leader dialogues and small-scale subject matter experts exchanges in areas such as military decisionmaking, medical planning and law of war/human rights. More activities of this type are planned for 2012 and will gradually expand at a pace commensurate with the demonstrated progress in Indonesian Armed Force transparency and institutional reform. Vietnam Military relations with Vietnam continue to grow in areas such as disaster management, search and rescue, conflict resolution, personnel recovery and medical operations. Vietnam is modernizing its military and looks to the United States as a partner in maintaining security and stability in SEA, particularly in the South China Sea. Vietnam's successful chairmanship of ASEAN in 2010 affirmed its emerging role as a leader and spokesman among SEA nations, as has been evidenced by their current role in lower Mekong River delta HA/DR initiatives. Vietnam and China have a long history of competition in the South China Sea. Both nations' disputes over islands and features, as well as natural resources, have led to confrontations in the past. Vietnam's continued leadership among SEA nations will be a critical component of eventual conflict resolution in this highly important and strategic area. PACOM will carry on working closely with Vietnam to advance our military relationship and cooperation in providing security across the Asia Pacific while remaining mindful of concerns about human rights. Malaysia Malaysia's vibrant economy, advanced military, strategic position near Malacca and the Singapore Straits, bordering both the South China Sea and Indian Oceans, and regional leadership combine to define it as an important partner for the United States and PACOM, and a key actor within SEA. Malaysia contributes to Strait of Malacca patrols, maritime security in the South China Sea, and efforts to contain transnational threats, such as piracy, and VEOs, such as ASG and JI. Its direct action against pirates in the Gulf of Aden was evidence of increased confidence and capability. In 2011, Malaysia conducted its second deployment of medical support units to Afghanistan and remains committed to supporting coalition efforts there until 2014. U.S. naval vessels frequently call in Malaysian ports, and military-to-military exchanges and joint training have expanded over recent years. Cambodia, Laos, Brunei and Timor-Leste The United States has extensive interests across the rest of SEA, and PACOM seeks to continue advancing military relations with Cambodia, Laos, Brunei, and Timor-Leste. Cambodia has been a strong supporter of U.S. military engagement in recent years and demonstrates a strong desire to increase military-to-military activities with PACOM. Military engagements with Brunei, Laos and Timor-Leste have expanded, albeit modestly, over the past year with particular emphasis on relationship- building and enhanced regional cooperation. Burma To the extent that any military-to-military relationship exists with Burma, it is extremely limited due to U.S. policies and sanctions directed at the former junta and its actions. However, the Burmese Government steps towards credible political and economic reform and working toward ceasefires with armed ethnic groups in the past several months together have improved U.S.-Burma ties, resulting in several initiatives announced during Secretary Clinton's December trip to Burma. Prisoner of War (POW)/Missing in Action (MIA) recovery operations, is the first opportunity for military-related engagement with Burma since 2004. It is estimated that the WWII remains of as many as 730 Americans may be present there. Burma's assimilation into the broader Asia-Pacific regional security order would be a positive event. SOUTH ASIA South Asia as a whole is of major strategic importance to the United States. Anchored by India and containing major SLOCs for the transport of energy and other commerce to Asia and the Americas from the Middle East and Europe, South Asia security partnerships are increasingly vital to PACOM's mission. South Asia is home to a confluence of challenges, including nuclear armed rivals India and Pakistan, numerous transnational VEOs such as Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT), piracy, trafficking in narcotics and persons, disputed borders, and insurgent movements that have plagued India, Nepal, and Sri Lanka. South Asia is particularly prone to natural disasters, including cyclones, tsunamis, and earthquakes. Bangladesh has long suffered from annual cyclones and flooding and Nepal is expected to suffer a major earthquake in the coming years. PACOM engages throughout South Asia, assisting its militaries to counter and contain VEOs such as LeT, cooperating in maritime security activities such as counter piracy, conducting disaster response planning and training, and exercising extensively, service-to-service. India Pursuing a U.S.-India strategic partnership through a close alignment of respective regional security interests is a priority for the U.S. Department of Defense and PACOM. Our security relationship involves strategic to tactical-level dialogues, increasingly robust military exercises, security assistance, and personnel exchanges. The United States and India have made steady progress in military-to- military cooperation over the past decade. It is important that the leaderships and staffs of PACOM and U.S. Central Command continue to coordinate our respective military activities in this sub-region, especially as they concern India and Pakistan. Bangladesh Bangladesh has emerged as a particularly effective partner in the fight against terror, cooperating with India as well as the United States to counter VEO activity by actors such as LeT. Further, Bangladesh's military is advancing its capabilities and contributes broadly to U.N.peacekeeping operations. Also, the Bangladesh army is primarily responsible for and has achieved major advancements in the protection of its citizens during the annual cyclone season and the inevitable flooding and related disasters with which Bangladesh repeatedly contends. Maldives, Nepal, Sri Lanka Although South Asian nations share similar concerns and challenges, they are uniquely individual. Due to its proximity to major commercial sea lanes, the Maldives is concerned with piracy and other illicit activity in its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). For that reason, it is striving to advance its maritime security capabilities by reshaping its coast guard, marine and special operations forces. Further, curbing recruitment of its youth into VEOs and narcotics trafficking and addiction are Maldives' areas of focus. Nepal has emerged from a lengthy Maoist insurgency in 2006 and is seeking to integrate some of the former insurgents into the Nepal Army. In partnership with PACOM, Nepal's armed forces are preparing to respond to a future earthquake. Sri Lanka, too, is focused on developing its maritime security capabilities while preventing a resurgence of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Elam. Sri Lanka's military forces continue to assist in de-mining and other recovery operations following 25 years of civil war. PACOM's engagement with Sri Lanka will continue to be limited, until the Government of Sri Lanka demonstrates progress in addressing human rights allegations. Each of these nations' militaries partner with PACOM at varying levels, including leadership exchanges, exercise series, PACOM Assist Team CT capacity building actions and activities, and security assistance. LeT While several VEOs conduct facilitation, recruitment, and seek safe havens throughout South Asia, LeT presents a particularly acute problem. Responsible for many attacks in India, including the horrific attacks into Mumbai, LeT is headquartered in Pakistan, affiliated with al Qaeda and other VEOs, and contributes to terrorist operations in Afghanistan and aspires to operate against Asia, Europe, and North America. PACOM's fiscal year 2011 Indian Engagement Initiative that resourced and hosted Mumbai CT specialists for training, exercises, and exchanges throughout the United States, together with capacity-building activities with South Asian partners are mainly focused on containing LeT and contributing to CT self-sufficiency of the sub-region's militaries. OCEANIA The U.S. alliance with Australia anchors PACOM's strategy in Oceania. Australia, with additional contributions from New Zealand, invests extensively in security and assistance efforts in this sub- region. The Australian continent notwithstanding, most of Oceania is comprised of Pacific Island nations spread across the vast expanse of the South Pacific Ocean. Security challenges associated with natural resources in this sub-region tend to predominate. In particular, illegal fishing, resource damage attributed to climate change and global warming, and the susceptibility of low lying island nations to typhoons and tsunamis define PACOM and U.S. Coast Guard approaches to engagement in Oceania, often in concert with Australian and New Zealand actions. Two new Shiprider Agreements with the Pacific Island nations of Nauru and Tuvalu together with those already in place with the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau, Tonga, and Kiribati enable transiting U.S. ships to assist in characterizing the maritime domains and providing a mechanism for shiprider-nation responses to irregularities within these island nations' territories. Oceania is also home to the Compact of Free Association nations of the Republic of Palau, the Federated States of Micronesia, and the Republic of the Marshall Islands, each of which PACOM is obligated to defend as part of Compact arrangements putting their territory off limits to all armed forces except those of the United States (and other countries we have invited). Compact agreements with these three nations provide PACOM a strategic buffer along the southern flank of the highly strategic U.S. territory of Guam. PACOM is increasing its collaboration with the Department of the Interior which administers Federal policy in U.S. territories in Oceania and administers assistance funds to the Compact Nations. We soon expect to have a liaison officer from Interior join the PACOM staff. Australia The U.S.-Australia alliance, our most significant partnership in Oceania, benefits from two new force posture initiatives, the rotational deployment of a Marine Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF) to Darwin and enhanced access to airfields in northern Australia. These initiatives will enable deeper interoperability of our respective forces, expand training opportunities with third countries in the region, and improve access to SEA and Oceania. Australia is also the largest non-NATO contributor of forces to the coalition efforts in Afghanistan. A trilateral relationship between Australia, Japan, and the United States continues to advance and has the potential to enable multilateral approaches to the region's challenges. Bilaterally, the U.S. and Australian militaries collaborate extensively in areas such as information sharing; ISR; HA/DR; combined arms training in exercise Talisman Saber; and space and cyber security. New Zealand New Zealand is also a recognized leader in Oceania. It is a strong partner of the United States, and in accordance with the forward- looking spirit of the 2010 Wellington Declaration, PACOM will continue to look for ways to further strengthen the relationship despite differences over nuclear policy. The United States and New Zealand share many security concerns and are cooperative partners in areas such as intelligence sharing, HA/DR and maritime security. In the interest of advancing the partnership, New Zealand is participating fully in the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) exercise for the first time in 2012. We value New Zealand's contributions to Afghanistan. New Zealand also supports stabilization efforts in Timor-Leste and the Solomon Islands, Armistice enforcement in Korea, and UN peacekeeping efforts globally. EXERCISE AND ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS Exercises In order to maintain ready forces and to plan, train, and exercise to accomplish the full range of military contingencies, PACOM requires annual congressional support for the Combatant Command Exercise and Engagement (CE2) program. PACOM's portion of this essential program consists of 18 major exercises involving joint military forces, interagency activities, and 27 of 36 PACOM partner nations. CE2 directly impacts PACOM's ability to conduct Joint training exercises and theater security engagement events across the Asia Pacific, and therefore plays a vital role in contributing to security of the AOR. Engagement Programs Two very significant engagement programs are Pacific Partnership and Pacific Angel. In 2011, the USS Cleveland, with personnel from 11 nations, conducted a 4-month deployment to Tonga, Vanuatu, Papua New Guinea, Timor Leste, and Federated States of Micronesia. Combining medical, dental, and engineering support, the mission treated over 38,000 patients, conducted scores of community relations projects, and completed much needed engineering and infrastructure repairs. Likewise, Pacific Angel 2011, utilizing C-17 aircraft, cared for thousands of patients and completed numerous civic action projects in Mongolia, Cambodia, Timor Leste, and Indonesia. Both of these engagement programs serve to improve regional partnerships, while enhancing the resiliency of object nations to deal more effectively with their own humanitarian crises due to natural disasters or other causes. Moreover, the experience that our Service components gain by working alongside nongovernmental organizations and other participating militaries in these controlled conditions improves their abilities to conduct disaster response when time is of the essence and lives are on the line. PACOM considers Pacific Partnership and Pacific Angel to be high payoff engagements in the Asia-Pacific region. GLOBAL SECURITY CONTINGENCY FUND The Global Security Contingency Fund is a new tool available for PACOM and country teams to develop and deliver security sector assistance in a coordinated fashion, enhancing the capabilities of military forces, other security forces, and relevant government agencies. The fund also supports the justice sector (including law enforcement and prisons), rule of law programs, and stabilization efforts. PACOM ORGANIZATIONS The following direct-reporting units uniquely contribute to the PACOM mission: Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies Asia Pacific Center for Security Studies (APCSS) fills a unique role in multi-national security cooperation and capacity-building efforts by equipping and empowering APCSS fellows and alumni to make substantive changes to their countries' security architectures. APCSS brings together communities of interest and influence, comprised of presidents, vice presidents, ministers of defense and foreign affairs, chiefs of defense, and ambassadors, to enable collaborative solutions to critical regional security challenges. Because the APCSS engages regularly and often concurrently with Chinese on both sides of the Taiwan Strait, as well as Hong Kong, it is uniquely positioned to assist in moving the U.S.-China military-to-military relationship towards a ``sustained and reliable'' level of contact. Joint Intelligence Operations Center The PACOM and the U.S. Forces Korea-Combined Forces Command (USFK- CFC) Joint Intelligence Operations Centers (JIOC) deliver strategically-focused, operationally-relevant, and predictive intelligence products to support Commander PACOM and our subordinate commands. The JIOCs operate within a larger PACOM intelligence federation that capitalizes on national intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities as well as two-way information sharing activities with allies and partners. The JIOCs serve as a focal point of intelligence collaboration in close coordination with PACOM Component Commands; National, Defense, and Service agencies; other combatant commands; subunified commands; and allies and partners. This federated approach to intelligence provides for invaluable theater situational awareness and advanced threat warning to enable decisionmaking. Joint Interagency Task Force West Through the execution of PACOM's counternarcotics program, Joint Interagency Task Force West (JIATF West) has significantly affected illicit methamphetamine precursor chemical trafficking originating in Asia ultimately bound for the Western Hemisphere by focusing its efforts on Asian, Iranian, Eurasian, and other transnational criminal organizations in the PACOM AOR. In fiscal year 2011, JIATF West's support to U.S. and partner nation law enforcement agencies resulted in the seizure of over 1,000 metric tons of illicit chemicals used in meth production. The seizures were critical in interrupting distribution within the United States and contributed to the disruption of Asian and Mexican drug trafficking organizations. Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC) successfully accomplished 58 investigation and recovery operations globally last year and is projected to execute 78 investigation and recovery operations in 2012. Expanded operations begin in fiscal year 2012 as JPAC resumes investigation and recovery operations in the DPRK. JPAC is also preparing to resume discussions with the government of Burma to renew personnel accounting efforts there during fiscal year 2013. JPAC accounting operations are ongoing in the People's Republic of China, while discussions between JPAC and the governments of India and the Philippines continue in an effort to resume investigation and recovery operations in those countries. CONCLUSION As characterized by the President, the United States ``face[s] an inflection point.'' The evolving geopolitical climate and shifting fiscal environment, which are significant factors in this change, point toward the Asia Pacific and emphasize the ever increasing consequence of this theater. The preceding testimony highlights the importance of optimizing U.S. posture in this region and underscores the specific challenges PACOM faces, as well as the opportunities PACOM seeks. I have spent the majority of my career in the Asia Pacific and have never been more convinced of its remarkable nature, partnership capacity, and criticality to U.S. security. In closing, your assistance has enabled the more than 300,000 members of PACOM to accomplish their mission. Further, your personal interest in, and visits to the Asia Pacific have sent a strong signal to this region regarding U.S. national interests and staying power. On behalf of every PACOM member, thank you for your enduring support for our Armed Forces and for this unique and important part of the world. Chairman Levin. Thank you so much, Admiral. Thanks for your statement and again for all you and your family have done for this Nation. General Fraser. STATEMENT OF GEN. WILLIAM M. FRASER III, USAF, COMMANDER, U.S. TRANSPORTATION COMMAND General Fraser. Chairman Levin, Senator Inhofe, and distinguished members of this committee: It is indeed my distinct privilege to be here with you today representing TRANSCOM. We are a total force team of approximately 150,000 men and women, military and civilian, dedicated to deploying, sustaining, and then returning home our Nation's most precious resource, our men and women in uniform. TRANSCOM is a lean, dynamic organization which plays a critical role in supporting our joint force around the world. Today I am privileged to be here with my good friend, Admiral Bob Willard, Commander, PACOM, whom I've had the honor of partnering with closely over many years. As already mentioned, I know Admiral Willard will be retiring in the near future and I would publicly like to personally thank him for his many years of dedicated service to our Nation and his wife's continued sacrifices and dedication. Sir, it has been indeed an honor and a privilege to serve with you. During 2011, TRANSCOM added a new command, the Joint Enabling Capabilities Command (JECC), led by Rear Admiral Scott Stearney, to our component command leadership team, which is comprised of AMC, led by General Ray Johns, MSC, led by Rear Admiral Mark Buzby, and the Surface Deployment and Distribution Command (SDDC), led by Major General Kevin Leonard. Over the last month I have witnessed firsthand the spirit and ingenuity of our subordinate commands during my travels throughout the United States, Afghanistan, Central Asia, the Pacific, and Antarctica, just to name a few. This past year has been particularly challenging as our team of Active Duty, Guard, Reserve, civil servants, merchant mariners, and commercial partners maintain an unusually high operations tempo, supporting combat operations, sustainment efforts, humanitarian relief, and crisis action responses both at home and abroad. These efforts from the evacuation in Japan following the devastating earthquake and tsunami, to supporting the warfighter in Afghanistan, to our withdrawal from Iraq at the end of 2011, were made possible by the amazing TRANSCOM professionals, who are committed to ensuring our joint force maintains global logistics dominance. As we now enter a very challenging fiscal environment focusing on capabilities needed for the 21st century, as defined in the President's defense strategy, our challenge is to continue to find fiscally responsible efficiencies to deliver the required capability. TRANSCOM strongly supports this transition and will remain focused on supporting our forces around the world. This will not be an easy task. The new strategic guidance requires a military that is smaller and leaner, while at the same time being more agile, flexible, and ready. Having an integrated distribution system will be important to our Nation, and TRANSCOM will meet the challenges of this new environment. We will continue to build our relationships with the interagency, our other nongovernmental organizations, commercial, and international partners. Together we will ensure our Nation's ability to project national military power and be able to confront other national challenges any time and anywhere. Since taking command last fall, I've been amazed to see the unique capabilities that are inherent in the command. I could not be prouder of the TRANSCOM team and our partners. No one in the world can match our Nation's deployment and distribution capability. The foundation of this enterprise is the enthusiasm, the dedication, and efficiency of the TRANSCOM team. Chairman Levin, Senator Inhofe, and all the members of this committee, I want to thank you for your continued superb support of TRANSCOM and of all of our men and women in uniform. I am grateful for the opportunity to appear before this committee today and I ask that my written statement be submitted for the record. I now look forward to your questions. Thank you. [The prepared statement of General Fraser follows:] Prepared Statement by Gen. William Fraser, USAF MISSION/ORGANIZATION It is my privilege as the Commander of the U.S. Transportation Command (TRANSCOM) to present you my posture statement for 2012. Our Total Force team of Active Duty, Guard, Reserve, civilian, commercial partners, and contractors leads a world-class Joint Deployment and Distribution Enterprise (JDDE) that provides unfailing support to our warfighters and their families around the globe. Through efficient and effective execution of our transportation and supply chain distribution mission, the TRANSCOM team is revolutionizing military logistics to meet the challenges of the 21st century, while adapting to the President's Defense Strategy. Our team of dedicated and trained professionals working in unison with our joint, commercial, and international partners is ready to meet those challenges today and in the future. SUPPORTING GLOBAL OPERATIONS Our Nation's greatest asymmetric advantage is our ability to project and sustain our forces across the globe supported by the political, military, and business relationships that enable this expansive network. To maintain this advantage, the President assigned TRANSCOM the Global Distribution Synchronizer responsibility to synchronize planning for global distribution operations. This new responsibility enables the Department of Defense (DOD) to shape the distribution environment to meet growing access challenges and ensure sufficient distribution lanes across multiple theaters to underwrite our Nation's ability to successfully project and sustain forces globally. Collaboratively, we will ``knit the distribution seams'' among multiple Combatant Commands (COCOM) to ensure support for their theater campaign and contingency plans. To this effort, our vision is to achieve a global network that anticipates demands, maximizes strategic flexibility, mitigates potential risks, and provides resilient end-to-end distribution. While TRANSCOM leads the enterprise, our component commands execute the mission. In 2011, Air Mobility Command (AMC) and its Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard partners maintained a high operations tempo supporting Operations Unified Protector (OUP), New Dawn (OND), Enduring Freedom (OEF), and other crises around the world. At the peak of global air mobility operations in 2011, AMC deployed a rotational force of over 60 C-130 tactical airlift aircraft, plus 120 KC-135 and KC-10 aerial refueling aircraft. AMC also employed an additional 21 C- 17s in dedicated support of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM). Additionally, across all COCOMs on a daily basis, at least one third of AMC's air mobility fleet was utilized in support of global operations. On the surface, the Military Sealift Command (MSC) and the Military Surface Deployment and Distribution Command (SDDC) moved over 19.9 million tons of cargo worldwide. MSC's tankers delivered 1.6 billion gallons of fuel to support global operations. SDDC expanded into multimodal operations by moving over 3,500 pieces of mission essential cargo by commercial liner sealift with follow-on airlift into Afghanistan. Our newest subordinate command, Joint Enabling Capabilities Command (JECC), deployed more than 750 personnel to support four Humanitarian Assistance/Disaster Relief (HA/DR) operations and seven contingency operations worldwide. The Geographic Combatant Commands (GCC) and U.S. Special Operations Command employed the JECC's expertise for a variety of real-world missions including Odyssey Dawn, Tomodachi, Pacific Passage, Continuing Promise, Odyssey Guard, OUP, OEF, and OND. Though the missions were of varying size, scope, and complexity, in each instance the JECC provided immediate, short-duration support to increase the effectiveness of joint command and control at the operational level. SUPPORT TO U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND In 2011, the President directed the final drawdown in Iraq by 31 December 2011 and the start of the Afghanistan surge recovery. Through partnership with CENTCOM and aggressive scheduling, TRANSCOM and its component AMC accelerated the redeployment of over 60,000 troops (over 50,000 from Iraq and 10,000 from Afghanistan) returning 99 percent home by 24 December and 100 percent by the New Year. Equipment retrograde was highlighted by the aggressive push to redeploy over one million pieces of equipment from Iraq in calendar year 2011. In addition, TRANSCOM and our interagency partners have received permissions from some governments of European, Central Asian, and Baltic countries to start retrograding materials from Afghanistan through the Northern Distribution Network (NDN). The Pakistan Ground Lines of Communication (PAK GLOC) provide logistical support through the movement of cargo to Afghanistan. In 2011 more than 35,000 containers were delivered on the PAK GLOC by surface transportation. When open, the PAK GLOC remains the quickest and most cost-effective route. The NDN provides an additional route for cargo to Afghanistan. Over the past year, we moved an average of 40 percent of all cargo in support of OEF through the NDN's multiple truck, water, rail, and air routes in an expanding distribution network. In 2011 a total of 27,000 containers were delivered by surface transportation on the NDN, an increase of 15 percent from 2010. TRANSCOM will continue to work with the interagency and governments of the NDN countries to expand NDN routes and permissions. This expansion will increase velocity and the number of new routes into and out of Afghanistan. SUPPORT TO OTHER GEOGRAPHIC COMBATANT COMMANDS TRANSCOM supported all GCCs, responding to their unique requirements, often testing the ingenuity of the team to develop new and complex transportation solutions. In March 2011, TRANSCOM provided a top priority movement to all six GCCs--a TRANSCOM first. In U.S. Southern Command's area of responsibility (AOR), TRANSCOM continues to support the transport and security of detainees during detainee movement operations (DMO). Since 2002, TRANSCOM in coordination with the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Office of the Secretary of State, Joint Staff, and supported COCOMs has successfully completed 88 DMO missions, transporting 1,206 detainees without incident. In U.S. European Command's (EUCOM) AOR, TRANSCOM deployed and redeployed more than 3,500 troops and 1,400 tons of cargo in support of the Kosovo Balkan force, providing a safe and secure environment in the region. In U.S. Africa Command's (AFRICOM) AOR, TRANSCOM deployed and redeployed 2,491 troops and 1,340 short tons of cargo in support of Commander Joint Task Force Horn of Africa. Supporting both AFRICOM and EUCOM and in response to the United Nations Security Council resolution to end Libya's military advance on its civilian population, TRANSCOM provided tankers and other lift assets to support Operations Odyssey Dawn and Unified Protector. U.S. tankers flew 435 sorties delivering 23 million pounds of fuel to coalition strike aircraft. TRANSCOM also directed 63 time-critical airlift missions delivering 886 passengers and 2,220 short tons of cargo. In U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM) AOR, TRANSCOM responded within hours to the immediate needs of the Japanese people, who were devastated from the earthquake and tsunami and follow-on nuclear crisis, with Operation Tomodachi. TRANSCOM delivered relief supplies, nuclear response equipment, a 50-person JECC team, search and rescue teams, and disaster response experts totaling over 3,400 short tons and over 6,700 passengers as part of that operation. TRANSCOM simultaneously supported Operation Pacific Passage, the voluntary authorized departure of DOD dependents from Japan, by evacuating more than 7,800 passengers on over 25 missions. Each year, TRANSCOM provides airlift and sealift assets to transport personnel, equipment, and supplies in support of the National Science Foundation's (NSF) research in Antarctica as part of Operation Deep Freeze. Using unique capabilities such as the Air National Guard's ski-equipped LC-130s, TRANSCOM delivered more than 3,250 passengers, 10,000 short tons of cargo, and five million gallons of fuel to McMurdo Station, Antarctica. In 2011, TRANSCOM assets airlifted the King of Malaysia and the Prime Minister of Norway to Antarctica in recognition of the 100 year anniversary of man's first expedition to the South Pole. In U.S. Northern Command's (NORTHCOM) AOR, TRANSCOM supported training exercises that provided realistic homeland defense and defense support to civil authorities training for joint and interagency partners. TRANSCOM also deployed the Modular Airborne Fire Fighting System (MAFFS) equipped C-130 aircraft to fight fires in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Mexico in support of the National Interagency Fire Center. The MAFFS aircraft flew 396 sorties and released more than 9.7 million pounds of fire-retardant during their 74 days of deployment. TRANSCOM's WC-130 Hurricane Hunter aircraft flew 129 sorties into 30 storms to collect valuable hurricane data for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration during the 2011 hurricane season. In addition to collecting storm data, TRANSCOM airlifted the Federal Emergency Management Agency Region II Defense Coordination Officer emergency response vehicle to Puerto Rico to assist with monitoring Tropical Storm Emily. IMPROVING BUSINESS PRACTICES To reduce transportation costs, TRANSCOM continues to pursue both military and commercial multimodal transportation solutions. Multimodal transportation solutions use both surface and air assets, e.g., moving Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles by ship to a major port and using cargo airplanes for the final delivery to the warfighter. By embracing multimodal transportation solutions, TRANSCOM manages the supply chain, controls cost, and creates efficiencies. In 2011, commercial multimodal operations began in the CENTCOM AOR. Multimodal operations into theater included contracted sealift carriers and airlift services through the commercial seaports and airports in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and Aqaba, Jordan. Commercial multimodal transportation routes maximize the use of commercial carrier capabilities from origin to destination while ``freeing up'' vital military capabilities. Multimodal hubs proved invaluable when the PAK GLOC routes were no longer available for use in late November. Several hundred containers from 39 different ships bound for forces in Afghanistan were diverted to Dubai and Aqaba where they were stored and then airlifted as needed into Afghanistan to ensure sustained support to combat operations. Afghanistan's mountainous terrain and poor infrastructure require an increased reliance on aerial delivery. In 2011, over 80 million pounds of cargo were airdropped, up 20 million from 2010, making 2011 a record year. We continue to add new capabilities like Low-Cost, Low- Altitude Delivery and to explore an extracted container delivery system capability to improve aircraft survivability and aerial delivery accuracy. Piracy continues to threaten our commercial partners, predominantly in the Horn of Africa region. TRANSCOM and its component, MSC, continue to be active participants in interagency and industry efforts to reduce the vulnerability of the U.S. commercial fleet. TRANSCOM is a strong advocate for the use of private security teams aboard commercial vessels. PRESERVING THE JOINT DEPLOYMENT AND DISTRIBUTION PROCESS The DOD supply chain is a vast, interdependent enterprise reliant on infrastructure availability across the globe. To safeguard this infrastructure, we work closely with entities across the DOD and Intelligence Community to stay apprised of threats to our transportation and distribution assets and to provide global strategic force protection oversight for these assets. Our relationships and planning efforts with GCCs facilitate threat mitigation and risk reduction of vulnerabilities and hostile/criminal activities. Preserving and improving our strategic en route infrastructure system remains a critical requirement. A relatively small number of en route airfields and seaports are available to support global mobility operations, so we must champion these ``enduring bases'' that enable seamless movement across the various areas of responsibility. TRANSCOM advocates for military construction projects that maintain and improve the capabilities and capacities of the military's deployment and distribution infrastructure. Using analytical data, TRANSCOM's En Route Infrastructure Master Plan (ERIMP) identifies construction projects that will improve the military's global routes. Adequate infrastructure and access agreements allow the United States to maintain the ability to project forces globally. With the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA), TRANSCOM continues to lead DOD supply chain transformation efforts through a series of Distribution Process Owner Strategic Opportunities (DSO) initiatives. Since 2009, five focused process improvement initiatives generated $400 million in cost savings and cost avoidance. The initiatives enhanced readiness, improved velocity, and reduced costs, while delivering higher levels of service to the warfighter. BUILDING TOWARD THE FUTURE As TRANSCOM continues to improve our processes across the deployment and distribution enterprise, we stand ready to support the President's Defense Strategy that maintains a full spectrum force ready to deter conflict, project power, and win wars anywhere on the globe. In the Pacific, Guam is critical to U.S. national defense as a strategic security and stability location providing TRANSCOM access to global lines of communications. Guam is a key multimodal logistics node to mobility success in the region and has been analytically validated in the Global Access and Infrastructure Assessment, TRANSCOM's ERIMP, and AMC's En Route Strategy White Paper. TRANSCOM supports infrastructure improvements on Guam to ensure successful distribution operations in East Asia and Oceania. We have partnered with the DLA and, with congressional approval, invested $101.3 million in the recapitalization of the fuel hydrant infrastructure and $61 million in a JP-8 pipeline between Apra Harbor and Andersen Air Force Base. A key element of the President's Defense Strategy is to strengthen defense cyber capabilities to operate effectively in cyberspace and to counter cyber attacks. Because of TRANSCOM's strong reliance on commercial partners, over 90 percent of the distribution and deployment transactions are handled in cyberspace. TRANSCOM strives to ensure both the integrity of our data and availability for our users and essentially serves as an information broker for deployment and distribution operations across the globe. TRANSCOM is partnering with U.S. Cyber Command (CYBERCOM), industry, and educational institutions to introduce innovative new technologies and methodologies to protect our essential command and control systems and information from attack. Collaborating with military and commercial partners to define standards for the process and handling of data allows us to improve the security of our information and its accuracy. Implementation of these standards will streamline our information flow, improve transparency to authorized users, and leverage new technologies. The result is trusted and timely information supporting a more responsive transportation enterprise while reducing costs. TRANSCOM's Agile Transportation for the 21st Century (AT21) initiative will use industry best practices plus government and commercial off-the-shelf optimization and scheduling tools to deliver best value, end-to-end deployment and distribution. Business process reengineering will improve transportation planning, forecast accuracy, and on-time delivery of forces and sustainment to COCOMs at a lower cost. Corporate Services Vision will align IT systems with reengineered business processes to create a one-stop IT shop. TRANSCOM is DOD's lead proponent for In-Transit Visibility (ITV) of cargo, equipment, and personnel during deployment and distribution options. ITV enables a more effective and efficient supply chain by tracking the total volume of supplies moving through the logistics pipeline. Active Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) remains the primary automatic identification technology for large consolidated shipments in the defense transportation system while incorporation of passive RFID tags provides great benefits in warehousing, prepositioning, and tracking of DOD materiel. We continue to expand capabilities with our ITV systems/portfolio. REALIGNING ORGANIZATION AND PERSONNEL The disestablishment of U.S. Joint Forces Command reassigned the JECC to TRANSCOM on July 1, 2011. The JECC's Joint Planning Support Element (JPSE), Joint Communications Support Element (JCSE), and the Joint Public Affairs Support Element (JPASE) provide mission tailored joint capability packages to COCOMs. These units facilitate rapid establishment of Joint Force Headquarters enabling Global Response Force execution and the bridging of joint operational requirements. The JECC employs a Total Force mix to deliver scalable mission tailored packages providing immediate, short duration support establishing and organizing a joint force headquarters. The JPSE is an employment package composed of experienced personnel in the planning and execution of joint military operations. The JCSE delivers secure command, control, communications, and computer capabilities. The JPASE provides an early entry capability enabling the Joint Force Commander to gain and maintain the initiative in the information domain. TRAINING AND EXERCISES TRANSCOM Combatant Commander's Exercise Engagement (CE2) program directly supports U.S. national security interests by increasing military capabilities, strengthening alliances, and retaining strategic access around the globe. CE2 enables joint force readiness by enhancing interoperability of the JDDE. The CE2 program has maintained strategic access for the DOD in an era where many forward deployed capabilities are becoming CONUS based. The program allows Combatant Commanders to exercise quick deploying contingency capabilities in response to real world crises like contingencies and HA/DR operations and allows DOD's strategic reserve fleet to remain ready, while saving resources by reserving operating capabilities. TRANSCOM participated and supported COCOMs in 20 top priority command post and field training exercises, including 147 secondary training events in 2011. During the exercises, TRANSCOM provided command and control, deployed strategic mobility personnel and assets, and provided ITV, including patient movement tracking systems and global air transport. TRANSCOM also partnered with NORTHCOM, Federal agencies, and State and local emergency planners in the development and execution of a staff and patient movement exercise as part of the National Level Exercise. AIR MOBILITY READINESS The President's Defense Strategy relies on rapid global reach and rapid global response to deter aggression and deliver worldwide capability. An important linchpin to U.S. military dominance in any conflict is maintaining the airlift and air-refueling capability required for rapid delivery of the Joint Force Team over long distances, guaranteeing access to any location in the world. Our initial analysis shows the planned air mobility force structure meets the strategic airlift and air-refueling requirements for a single large scale operation, while maintaining the flexibility and adaptability to support the Joint Force in another region. C-17s will continue to meet TRANSCOM's future requirements through currently funded purchases, upgrade programs, and fleet rotation. The newest C-17s arrive with the latest capability and reliability improvements installed, while the older aircraft enter into the Global Reach Improvement Program to increase their capability and sustainability. Aircraft are monitored and analyzed for stress and rotated to maintain structural integrity of the fleet. The C-5 fleet is critical to our oversized and outsized air cargo capability and management of the fleet focuses on retirement of some of the oldest aircraft and increased reliability for the remainder. The Reliability Enhancement and Re-Engining Program (RERP) increases the C- 5 fleet mission capable rate (MCR) from 55 to 75 percent. All C-5 Bs and Cs and 1 C-5A will undergo RERP for a total of 52 C-5Ms. The Air Force's new programmed depot maintenance process changed from a ``failure of major components'' to a preventative replacement process. C-5A retirements will improve aircraft availability by removing maintenance intensive jets from the fleet. Last year the Air Force awarded a contract for the engineering and manufacturing development phase of the KC-46A program. The KC-46A will replace a portion of the Air Force's aging fleet of KC-135 Stratotankers and will provide the DOD and allied nation coalition aircraft with more aerial refueling capacity, improved efficiency, and increased capabilities for cargo, passengers, and aeromedical evacuation. These 179 KC-46A tankers are the first increment of a three-phased tanker recapitalization approach driven by fleet size and fiscal constraints. The C-130 continues as an in-theater workhorse supporting humanitarian, peacekeeping, disaster relief, and combat operations. TRANSCOM supports DOD and Air Force plans to size the tactical airlift fleet to align with the President's Defense Strategy and to meet the warfighter's demand for intratheater and Direct Support airlift missions. Our initial analysis of the planned total purchase of 134 C- 130Js, plus 184 modernized C-130Hs, shows the Air Force fleet of 318 C- 130s will be sufficient to support the warfighter's demands. To operate our mobility aircraft safely in threat environments, I strongly support continued defensive systems such as the Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures system and continued development of the Advanced Situational Awareness and Countermeasures capability for operations in low to medium threat environments. The Joint Operational Support Airlift Center (JOSAC) develops and implements CONUS Operational Support Airlift (OSA) solutions to provide movement visibility for the DOD. The small passenger aircraft provide quick, cost-effective transportation for senior officials and special cargo. Recently, the JOSAC assumed the responsibility of scheduling OSA aircraft in support of the NORTHCOM AOR, including parts of Alaska, Canada, and Mexico. Operational Support Airlift and Executive Airlift (OSA/EA) is a key component of our Global Air Mobility Enterprise. From the President to senior civilian and military leaders, immediate airlift is required to carry out diplomatic and military missions across the spectrum of activities supporting our National Security, National Defense, and the National Military Strategies. While we continue to modernize the OSA/EA fleet, we plan to develop a single scheduling and management system with a common multiservice database and operational picture. The goal is to achieve total and real-time asset visibility of worldwide senior leader and OSA/EA movements to enable all stakeholders, including key leadership to exercise command and control of their fleet assets within their area of responsibility. TRANSCOM's Civil Reserve Air Fleet (CRAF) is a force enabler, providing us the ability to rapidly deploy forces and equipment in response to global events. The institution of incentives for commercial carriers directed in the 2009 National Defense Authorization Act have proven successful in transitioning the CRAF to a more modern fleet that increases reliability, improves fuel efficiency, and lowers contract rates. TRANSCOM continues to incentivize the use of modern CRAF aircraft while eliminating the aging, less efficient aircraft. The CRAF Executive Working Group (EWG) of TRANSCOM, AMC and commercial aviation leaders has been a continuing success by allowing open discussion of fleet modernization, Federal Aviation Administration flightcrew duty and rest requirements, fleet reliability, and supporting operations. Routing mobility airlift over the polar ice cap opens an additional corridor to the CENTCOM AOR mitigating the threat to single lines of communication and saves time, fuel, maintenance, and personnel costs. West coast bases' routing KC-135 swap outs over the North Pole saves 20 percent in time and costs over the traditional European-Caucasus routing, while long-range cargo aircraft routed over the polar ice caps save up to 14 percent. In 2011, TRANSCOM directed AMC and its commercial partners to utilize polar routing in order to improve operational experience and capability. Air Force Contingency Response (CR) forces provide an essential capability to support rapidly evolving contingencies throughout the world. AMC maintains four Contingency Response Groups and additional expeditionary Global Mobility forces to support the airbase opening and Joint Task Force-Port Opening missions. These forces directly support TRANSCOM and Joint Force Commanders' expeditionary mobility requirements by expanding options for early entry force application and sustainment. Rapid response capability along with opening and operating from distant and austere bases with a small footprint and minimum support requirements is a tremendous force enabler. CR forces can deploy within 12-hours notice to quickly assess airbase capabilities and begin the base opening process to achieve full mission capability in the shortest possible time. CR forces provide combatant commanders with initial air base opening and global air mobility support capability during wartime, contingency or humanitarian assistance/ disaster response operations. In 2011, TRANSCOM performed 24,410 safe and rapid aeromedical global patient movements, transporting 14,678 patients to definitive care. In the days after the liberation of Libya, TRANSCOM, through the Global Patient Movement Requirements Center, supported a Department of State request and transported wounded Libyan personnel by military airlift to medical facilities in Europe and the United States. TRANSCOM continues to increase its ability to meet the DOD's expanding patient movement mission requirements. We have matched advanced in-flight medical care teams to the specific medical needs of our Wounded Warriors, forged and field tested unique DOD Health and Human Services deployable air evacuation staging facilities, and standardized and integrated theater patient movement regulating centers. These improvements will build a safer, more agile, and efficient world-wide patient movement system. SEALIFT READINESS Sealift is the primary means for delivering the preponderance of equipment and sustainment for ground forces, and is essential to building up combat power and seizing the initiative during major combat operations. In a typical operation, over 90 percent of all cargo is delivered by sealift. As one of the largest single shippers of ocean cargo worldwide, DOD spent approximately $2 billion in fiscal year 2011 on commercial transportation through our Universal Services Contract. By partnering with commercial carriers, we gain beneficial access to their global infrastructure. In return, they benefit from our long-term commitment to their ships and networks. When necessary, we activate our government-owned vessels from the Maritime Administration's (MARAD) Ready Reserve Force (RRF) and MSC's Surge Fleet. TRANSCOM's partnership with the U.S. commercial sealift industry and the Department of Transportation (DOT) has been vital in developing new routes for conveying cargo around the globe, particularly to regions with undeveloped infrastructure. Through formal programs such as the Maritime Security Program (MSP), Voluntary Intermodal Sealift Agreement (VISA) and the Voluntary Tanker Agreement (VTA), DOD gains critical access to U.S. commercial capabilities, while ensuring the availability of a viable U.S. flag maritime industry and U.S. citizen mariner pool in times of national emergency. The MSP was recently extended an additional 10 years to 2025. TRANSCOM looks forward to working with members of Congress to continue to refine the program between now and its implementation date in 2015. The most critical vessels in our fleets are the Roll-On/Roll-Off (RORO) vessels. TRANSCOM also looks forward to working with our partners in developing a joint approach to recapitalize our organic fleet through the purchase of vessels available at minimal cost due to the declining worldwide markets. Doing so keeps U.S. citizens operating these vessels, thereby strengthening our maritime base and generating business for U.S. shipyards to complete all conversion and life-cycle maintenance work on these ships. Additionally, preserving DOD's organic fleet of nine Large Medium-Speed Roll-On/Roll-Off (LMSRs) and 48 Ready Reserve Force ships is vital to having the surge sealift capacity necessary to meet future contingencies. TRANSCOM works closely with DLA Energy to meet DOD's fuel requirements. Early in 2011, MSC assumed operational control of the second of two U.S. built, U.S. flagged State Class tanker vessels. These new double hulled 331,000 barrel ships replaced four older T-5 tankers that have served us well for the past 25 years. The Motor Vessel (MV) Empire State and her sister ship, MV Evergreen State, will carry refined petroleum products primarily between commercial refineries and DOD storage and distribution facilities worldwide. Additionally, I support MARAD's proposed Tank Vessel Security Fleet which, if approved, would replace the VTA and provide incentives for U.S.-flagged tankers to operate in U.S. foreign commerce in return for assured access to DOD in support of worldwide operations. Finally, I urge continued congressional support of the National Defense Sealift Fund and the MSP. TRANSCOM is working diligently with Navy, MSC, and MARAD to instill efficiencies and cost savings in the way these critical assets are managed. Support of the MSP, in addition to supporting a U.S. flagged commercial fleet, is critical to maintaining the U.S. merchant mariner base which provides the manpower needed for surge operations. The delivery of fuel to combat forces is an absolutely critical component to any modern combat operation. As we plan for contingencies we must always consider the possibility that the normal fuel infrastructure may not be in place or may be unusable. The Offshore Petroleum Discharge System on MV Wheeler is one unique way to ensure fuel support. This system provides up to 1.7 million gallons of fuel from up to 8 miles offshore. This one of a kind vessel is programmed for purchase in August 2012, and will become part of the organic fleet to ensure continued support to the warfighter. SURFACE READINESS The declining condition and operation of our highway infrastructure between military installations and ports is a concern for the DOD. TRANSCOM will continue to work with DOT to identify DOD's rail, highway, and port requirements so they are thoroughly integrated into the civil sector planning cycle and maintained for the JDDE. In addition to maintaining the infrastructure, DOD must also maintain railcar capacity to meet military transportation requirements. We are working closely with industry to ensure contracted railcar capacity is available to augment government-owned railcar capacity in the event of any contingency lift requirements. Infrastructure improvement projects at the U.S. Army Military Ocean Terminal Concord (MOTCO), in Concord, CA, are essential to TRANSCOM's support of PACOM's operational plans and DOD's military capability in the Pacific theater. Due to the nature and size of this military mission, no suitable alternatives to MOTCO exist on the West Coast. We continue to work within DOD to find necessary resources to alleviate any ammunition throughput issues in the Pacific Theater. TRANSCOM also manages the Defense Personal Property System (DPS). DPS is a next generation web-based system designed to manage personal property shipments and help improve the move experience for servicemembers through procurement of best value transportation services. In addition, DPS achieves other key Defense Personal Property Program objectives to include: Full Replacement Value protection, streamlined direct claims settlement between the customer and the Transportation Service provider (TSP), faster automated payments to TSP, 24/7 self-counseling, on-line status tracking, and reduced storage costs. In fiscal year 2011, DPS executed more than 532,000 shipments and can now accommodate approximately 90 percent of all household goods shipments for DOD military and civilian personnel and their families. DEVELOPING NEW CAPABILITIES TRANSCOM is overcoming deployment challenges to enhance our global response capabilities. Joint High Speed Vessels (JHSVs) represent a transformational sealift capability by offering an enhanced logistics response to military and civil contingencies around the globe. These vessels close the gap between high-speed low-capacity airlift and low- speed high-capacity sealift. Forward deployment of JHSVs in combination with warehoused stocks of equipment and supplies will leverage their speed and capacity into quick delivery of needed cargos for Service, joint, and interagency efforts. We are analyzing ways to further capitalize on this capability with the Services and other COCOMs. With delivery by airdrop nearly doubling yearly since 2005, TRANSCOM's investment in a High Speed Container Delivery System (HSCDS) will increase airdrop accuracy and payload weights supporting forward deployed warfighters. This capability also enhances threat avoidance and tactical maneuverability to aircraft and aircrews. HSCDS has successfully completed technology demonstrations with a summer operational assessment planned. FISCAL STEWARDSHIP The JDDE generated $786.9 million in cost avoidance predominately through the use of multimodal operations (the cost-effectiveness of ships and the flexibility of the C-17s) and forward based warehousing in fiscal year 2011. A continuing example of multimodal operations is the movement of Mine Resistant Ambush Protected All Terrain Vehicles (MATVs) to Afghanistan. The vehicles were shipped to seaports in theater then airlifted five at a time aboard C-17s into country. TRANSCOM delivered the majority of the 850 MATVs from October 2010 through September 2011 using multimodal operations. TRANSCOM is committed to being part of the DOD solution to long- term deficit-reduction challenges by continuing to lead the certification effort for alternative fuels. AMC C-17s underwent flight tests and certification on cutting-edge renewable bio-jet fuel blended with JP-8 in August 2011. Additionally, all aircraft in AMC's fleet are approved to fly on a synthetic blend of coal or natural gas-based fuel and regular jet fuel. Additional efficiency efforts include the Mission Index Flying Tool, the Next Generation Cargo Capability Program, and other mission area enhancements. The Mission Index Flying Tool has allowed AMC to reduce aviation fuel consumption beyond expectations. The Next Generation Cargo Capability program standardizes air cargo build-up from depot suppliers and AMC aerial ports to maximize volume/weight utilization, increasing operational effectiveness, and reducing fuel costs while meeting the end customer's delivery requirements. Collaboration with our supported customers has moved more materiel via surface modes to our CONUS strategic aerial ports, thus minimizing aircraft costs while effectively meeting warfighter requirements. Finally, to optimize over-ocean shipments and reduce enterprise operating costs, we continue to identify opportunities to aggregate cargo at appropriate locations. FINAL THOUGHTS While the Nation and TRANSCOM face significant challenges at home and abroad, we recognize there are great opportunities for positive change. Such changes will improve effectiveness and efficiency for the warfighters and for the citizens who have entrusted us with the responsible use of our Nation's resources. The dedicated men and women of the TRANSCOM team take enormous pride in providing the world's best deployment and distribution support to our great Nation. ``Together, we deliver.'' Chairman Levin. Thank you so much, General. Let's try a first round of 7 minutes. We have pretty good attendance, so we probably won't have time for a second round. Admiral, let me start with you. The United States and Japan are reconsidering certain terms of the 2006 roadmap agreement to move U.S. marines off of Okinawa. Specifically, we apparently now have agreed to de-link the movement of 8,000 marines off Okinawa from the development of a Futenma Replacement Facility. However, the plan to build the replacement facility at Camp Schwab apparently still remains unchanged. Senators McCain and Webb and I believe that the plan to build that replacement facility at Camp Schwab is unrealistic and is unworkable and unaffordable. Earlier this week the Japanese Prime Minister met with the Governor of Okinawa and the Governor apparently has reiterated his opposition to that replacement facility plan and has repeated his call for the airfield to be located outside of Okinawa. So it seems clear that we need an alternative to the plan to build a replacement facility at Camp Schwab. Otherwise, the current Futenma Air Station is going to stay open and operational for the foreseeable future. Now, in the NDAA we have a number of requirements relative to this issue that will need to be met before any funds, including funds that are provided by the Government of Japan, may be obligated or expended to implement realignment. There is the Marine Corps Commandant's submission of a report of his preferred force laydown. There's a requirement that we see a master plan for the construction of the facilities and infrastructure necessary to implement the Commandant's preferred force laydown. We need a certification by the SECDEF that tangible progress has been made on the replacement facility, and a number of other requirements. Are you participating or have you participated in meeting those requirements that are laid out in our defense authorization bill? Admiral Willard. We are participating, yes. Chairman Levin. In each of them? Admiral Willard. Yes. Chairman Levin. Do you know how far along they are? When do we expect that that will be filed with us? Admiral Willard. I don't have a date for you, Senator. I can tell you that the deliberations have been continuous. In fact, before those conditions were laid down to DOD we were offering a variety of options to the SECDEF as events in the Okinawa area were stalled over the past couple of years. So PACOM has been involved in sharing about 25 options with DOD over time and the preferred laydown that you refer to is one of those. So we are very much engaged and will continue to assist in determining the final answers to your questions. Obviously, the Japanese get a vote in this in terms of progress. Chairman Levin. Right. Whatever we do, we intend to do it jointly with the Japanese, and that's an important part of our intent. Relative to China, you've testified a bit on the growth of the Chinese military. What do you expect the effect of the administration's refocus on Asia to be on China's military growth and posture in the region? Admiral Willard. We've not seen China's military growth affected by the announcement, nor do we expect it to be. It has continued relatively unabated. The Chinese are obviously very interested in the statement that the United States intends to focus on the Asia-Pacific region. I think they see themselves in that statement, perception or not, and will continue to observe very closely the actions that the United States takes to back up those words. Chairman Levin. Admiral, you've made reference to the strategic guidance that was released by the administration recently. Do you support that new strategy? Admiral Willard. I do. Chairman Levin. Are you satisfied that the fiscal year 2013 budget supports that new strategy? Admiral Willard. I am. As we look at the budget submission, the strategy establishes global priorities. The budget establishes force structure in terms of acquisitions across the Services. How that acquisition strategy is applied to the strategic priorities globally will, in effect, answer the strategy or not. So this is about the application of what we buy, I think, more than anything. Chairman Levin. Admiral, you have, I believe, indicated that you support the United States becoming a party to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS). I would like to press you, because this is your last hearing before us, a bit more on that. Can you tell us whether, in your judgment, joining this treaty, this convention, will support our military operations in the Asia Pacific and whether not being a party to that convention disadvantages the United States? Admiral Willard. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think it's a great question and timely. I do think that not being a signator disadvantages the United States in a particular way. I would offer that since 1994 the U.S. Armed Forces have been adhering to the legal framework that is consistent with the UNCLOS, and we continue to, and we continue to share UNCLOS issues and debate UNCLOS legal definitions with our counterparts throughout the Asia Pacific. Chairman Levin. ``UNCLOS'' is Law of the Sea? Admiral Willard. Law of the Sea. What the United States doesn't have as a non-signator is a seat at the table when the convention is debated or as the convention evolves by the various countries that have ratified it. I think it's important that the United States have a seat at that table. At the end of the day we believe that the elements that caused the convention to be set aside in the 1980s, generally in the area of the commercial-related articles within it, have all been corrected and should at this point be candidate for ratification. We, again because UNCLOS is so important as a framework for determining the actions that all nations take in the maritime domain around the world, believe strongly that the United States must have a voice in this and a seat at the table when we debate UNCLOS in the future. Chairman Levin. Does China have a seat at the table? Admiral Willard. They do. Chairman Levin. Thank you. Senator Inhofe. Senator Inhofe. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, let me just respond to the last line of questioning. I want to make sure our witnesses know that I'm probably not the only one on this side of the table here who disagrees with the administration's position on UNCLOS. In fact, I'd like to make a formal request, and I will do so in writing, Mr. Chairman, that we actually have a hearing on this treaty. I think that would be very appropriate to have. I know that about 10 years ago we had two hearings, one by this committee and the other by the Environment and Public Works Committee that I was chairing at that time. But I won't get into that now. I would like to have you send me something for the record, Admiral Willard, as to what specific things have changed since the 1980s, actually in two shifts, since the 1980s and the 1990s, that should change our position on UNCLOS, if you would do that for the record. [The information referred to follows:] The legal regime reflected in United Nations Convention for Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) promotes two fundamental tenets of the U.S. strategic perspective on security and stability in the world: (1) preservation of freedom of access and use of the seas, and (2) the rule of law. The Convention preserves freedom by codifying the rights, freedoms, and uses of the sea for all nations, including the United States. This, in turn, promotes our economic and security interests. The Convention upholds the rule of law by effectively balancing the interests of coastal states and user states, through precise terminology and concise legal rules. As a coastal state and user state, the United States benefits from a stable legal regime, immune to easy manipulation by others. U.S. accession to the Convention would send a strong message to the world that we are serious about preserving maritime freedoms and upholding the rule of law. In the U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM) area of responsibility (AOR), nations with longstanding excessive maritime claims (e.g., Philippines and Vietnam) are modifying those claims, consistent with UNCLOS. These member-states cite upholding the rules-based approach of the Convention to resolving the South China Sea disputes as a reason for their efforts. Throughout the PACOM AOR, my staff, my component commanders, and I are often asked, ``will the United States ever join UNCLOS?'' We interpret this question as a call by our allies and partners to support efforts to uphold the Convention against those who seek to manipulate it and the underlying customary international law. U.S. accession would send a strong message to the nations of the Asia-Pacific region that the rule of law reflected in the Convention is worth upholding and preserving. U.S. accession could encourage other nations in the region to reform their excessive maritime claims as Vietnam and the Philippines have begun to do. Continuing to operate as an outsider to the legal regime significantly undermines our credibility when we attempt, on a recurring basis, to challenge and protest the failure of other nations to adhere to international rules governing uses of the oceans. We routinely cite the rules contained in UNCLOS, regarding maritime navigation, maritime safety, sovereignty, and jurisdiction, among others as being universally applicable. We rely on the rules in UNCLOS when criticizing nations for various actions that we find inconsistent with international law in the maritime domain. The effectiveness of our challenges to violations of international law regarding uses of the oceans, are handicapped by the fact that members of UNCLOS respond ``How can you lecture us about failing to comply with UNCLOS when you are not even a party to it?'' Consequently, U.S. objections are often ignored or dismissed. Becoming a party to UNCLOS would significantly strengthen our standing and credibility when demanding adherence to international law in the uses of the oceans. The United States faces a different world today in which some rising nations seek to challenge the existing rules-based international order. When UNCLOS was negotiated, the United States shared a converging interest with its leading competitor (i.e., the Soviet Union) in preserving the rights, freedoms and uses of the sea. Today, there are rising nations (e.g., China) that do not share this converging interest in preserving these freedoms. Moreover, those nations also do not fully respect the concepts behind adherence to the rule of law. Instead, they view the law as a tool to be used when useful and ignored when necessary. China refers to this concept as ``Legal Warfare.'' In our view, the best way to prevent that manipulation of the law is to guard it closely from within the system. So long as the United States remains outside the established rule-set of the Convention as a non-party, we face an unnecessary impediment to our ability as a nation, diplomatically and militarily to preserve the rules embodied in the Convention. The United States cannot preserve freedoms and uphold the rule of law by our military presence or activities alone. Unlike conventional law, customary law is constantly subject to change and evolution over time through state practice of all nations. Critics of U.S. accession who argue that U.S. military superiority alone can uphold the legal regime reflected in UNCLOS as customary law ignore the reality that the United States cannot depend solely on one element of national power to protect national interests. Relying on the U.S. military as the sole means to protect U.S. interests sends the wrong message to rising nations, such as China, that they too should rely upon their militaries to resolve international disputes, such as those in the South China Sea. To maximize the likelihood of achieving our strategic objectives, the United States should leverage all elements of national power, including diplomatic, informational, and legal. The primary concern of President Reagan with the final text of the Convention involved the issue of deep sea-bed mining. According to President Clinton, and as agreed to by Presidents Bush and Obama, those concerns were effectively mitigated between the time that President Reagan decided not to sign the Convention in 1982 and 1994 when changes to the Convention were agreed. President Clinton submitted the revised Convention to the Senate for ratification in 1994, stating that the changes addressed President Reagan's concerns. Presidents Bush and Obama implicitly agreed with President Clinton when they supported Senate ratification. According to Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama, all of our national security interests were preserved in the final text of the Convention. When the Convention was negotiated in the 1970s and early 1980s, the United States was a leading nation at the table throughout. Three successive Presidents, from both parties and leaders of the U.S. military have consistently supported U.S. accession to the Convention. As described above, U.S. accession would bolster, not impede, global U.S. military activities. Codifies rights, freedoms and uses of the sea critical to the global mobility of our military forces, including the rights of innocent passage, transit passage, archipelagic sea lanes passage, the freedoms of navigation and overflight, and ``other internationally lawful uses of the sea'' (e.g., military activities, operations, and exercises). The U.S. military will not be subject to compulsory dispute settlement procedures (i.e., international courts or arbitration). The Convention expressly permits member-states to opt out of those procedures for ``disputes concerning military activities.'' The Convention expressly exempts foreign ``warships, naval auxiliaries, and other vessels or aircraft owned or operated'' by a member-state from coastal state regulations of the marine environment. Senator Inhofe. Admiral Willard, I have always been concerned about the quality of our intelligence on North Korea. There have always been a lot of surprises there. I won't repeat the details: my observation back in August 24, 1998, when we asked the question how long it would be until North Korea would pose an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile threat and they were talking about around 3 to 5 years, and it was 7 days later, on August 31, 1998, that they actually did fire one. It was a Taepodong 1. I'm concerned about their progress now and the three-stage rocket that they actually were able to launch in 2009. So I guess I'd just ask you, are you satisfied with the quality of the intelligence we're getting on North Korea? Admiral Willard. Senator, we know a great deal about the various structures in North Korea, including the efforts they're making to nuclearize and develop ballistic missile delivery capabilities. That said, there is never perfect information with regard to North Korea in virtually any area. I'm also satisfied with the emphasis that's being placed on North Korea, given the importance of what you've suggested, and the efforts specifically by the entire intelligence federation to provide me the kind of information that we require to track North Korean developments day to day. Senator Inhofe. Okay, I think that's significant. In terms of the 29-year-old replacement for Kim Jong Il, my impression is that it's just more of the same and perhaps not really going to be a major change in terms of decisionmaking. What is your opinion of Kim Jong Eun? Admiral Willard. We think that in general he's a Kim and he's surrounded by---- Senator Inhofe. He's a Kim, yes. Admiral Willard. He's surrounded by an uncle and Kim Jong Il's sister and others that I think are guiding his actions. So in that sense we would expect, as you suggest, more of the same. The strategy has been successful through two generations. It wouldn't surprise us to see an effort to make the strategy work for a third. That said, he's a young man and relatively untested and those around him may have some differences of opinion regarding the direction that North Korea heads. So we are interested in seeing the influence of a treaty ally like China or the direction that they take in various security areas, including proliferation and nuclearization. Senator Inhofe. All right, I appreciate it. I'm going to ask you something about what you said on China, but first I want to ask General Fraser. I've had a particular interest in Africa and U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) for quite some period of time. I'd like to ask you, what type of support is TRANSCOM able to give AFRICOM in their AOR today? General Fraser. Thank you, Senator. As we look to AFRICOM, we've managed to meet all their requests and their requirements. That has come in the form of support to the Libyan operations, where we were able to provide both lift and tanker support. They had follow-on requests for Libya, which we provided some support for. We sailed in some ships to provide equipment into Libya. That's one form. We still provide support also to the Combined Joint Task Force for the Horn of Africa, meeting those requirements. But also our new command, the JECC, has had several requests for our planners. So Admiral Stearney and his folks have moved forward to help out General Hamm in some of the planning that he's been doing. So we have not failed to meet any of the requests from AFRICOM. Senator Inhofe. Is it your opinion that AFRICOM is getting adequate resources to carry out the mission? General Fraser. Yes, sir, it is. Senator Inhofe. If you find that it's not, if you'd let us know it would be very helpful. Getting back to something that maybe I misunderstood, in terms of China's military buildup, we know that it's been an average of what, 18.75 percent a year now. I remember back during the Clinton administration when they were even more aggressive than that. Did I understand you to say that you don't witness the growth in their capabilities or you do? Would you clarify your statement as to your observation of China's threat and capabilities? Admiral Willard. I think I tried to characterize it as growth unabated, so they continue to advance their capabilities and capacities in virtually all areas. Senator Inhofe. In all areas. That's something significant because it's conventional forces, and then they seem to be having it all. I look at that as a great threat. I remember early on when I was first elected. Actually, that was over on the House side. There was a book by Anthony Kubek called, ``Modernizing China.'' I don't know whether you've ever read it or not, but I think for anyone who is dealing with China and Taiwan, it would be worthwhile reading that. Let me ask you, do you still feel the same way about my favorite programs, 1206, 1207, 1208, International Military Education and Training (IMET) and these programs? Admiral Willard. We do, very strongly, Senator. 1206 in particular because of the work that we're doing with the Philippines and others in counterterror has been very helpful, and we continue to rely very heavily on those funds. I would just comment that we think IMET is a most powerful tool in terms of exposing our foreign counterparts not only to U.S. education, military education, and standards and values, but also in bringing the nations, the allies, and partners together in the region as alumni. So these are very, very important programs as it relates to strengthening our allies. Senator Inhofe. The IMET program has been so successful in our change in focus that we recognize we're not doing them the favor, really they're doing us the favor. Once an allegiance, a close relationship, is established, it stays forever. Admiral Willard. I agree. Senator Inhofe. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you very much, Senator Inhofe. Senator Lieberman. Senator Lieberman. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thanks, Admiral Willard and General Fraser, for your service. Admiral, thanks for all your years of service, and to your wife also. You've really given great service to our country and great leadership in the years I've come to know you through my membership on this committee. I must say that I've been impressed over the years that you've not only proven yourself to be an exceptional military leader, but I think you've always had an ability, while carrying out the details of your military responsibilities, to see the larger picture in which you and the United States have been operating, and I've always found my conversations with you to be very instructive. So I appreciate that very much and wish you the best in your next chapter. Admiral Willard. Thank you. Senator Lieberman. So let me begin, having said that, with a larger picture statement and question, which is that in the travels over the last year that I've been able to do in the PACOM AOR, and meeting people here as they come from the region, it strikes me that this rebalancing of our foreign and military policy toward the Asia Pacific is not just an initiative on our part in pursuit of our economic and security interests, but it is really a reaction to a kind of demand from within the region that we be more involved. It's striking, I think, and perhaps not appreciated enough by people around the country, at a time when there's a lot of concern about America being in decline, America the unpopular, that not only among the more traditional allies has our relationship grown stronger, but that there are whole new groups of countries that are seeking stronger relations with us, such as Vietnam and Myanmar, for instance. So I wanted to ask you at the beginning if you agree that that's the case and, if so, why? Is it just about fear of China and the hope that we will balance China as part of our rebalancing? Or is there more to it than that? Admiral Willard. Thank you. I do agree with your statement, and I think I've testified in the past, the amount of encouragement that has come from the region, from virtually all the actors in the region, with regard to their desire for U.S. staying power and influence in the region and increased engagement. There was a perception over the course of the last decade of warfare that our presence in the Asia-Pacific region was diminished, and, in fact, our ground force presence was decremented by about 10 percent as we in PACOM rotated forces in and out of the theater of wars over the past 10 years. But our ship presence, and our aircraft presence, remained relatively steady, albeit working the ships and airplanes hard to do it. So we've maintained a presence, but there was a sense in the region that the U.S. commitment to the region had been somewhat diminished for a variety of reasons. I think that refrain has not stopped. I don't think it's just about China. I do think that the fact that China has advanced its military capacities to the extent that it has certainly is one element of that. But I think there has been a desire, a strong desire in the Asia-Pacific region, continuously for U.S. engagement economically and otherwise.I think they regard a U.S. presence there as unquestionably contributing to the security and stability of the Asia-Pacific region. It's not lost on anyone that for nearly the past 6 decades we've enjoyed relative security and growing prosperity. Senator Lieberman. Right. Admiral Willard. So I think there's a desire for U.S. engagement regardless, and certainly there is, I think, a great deal of optimism in the region as a consequence of the recent announcements that have been made. Senator Lieberman. That, in fact, the role that America has played in providing stability and security in the Asia-Pacific region over the last 6 decades, as you've said, has been one of the preconditions of the enormous growth and prosperity in the region over that time. Admiral Willard. Absolutely. Senator Lieberman. Is it fair to also say that part of what draws a lot of people and countries in the Asia Pacific toward us may well be our form of government, that during this period of time not only has there been an economic prosperity growing in the Asia Pacific, but democracy has expanded as well? Admiral Willard. It has. I think when you look at countries like India and the engagement that's ongoing between the United States and India; Indonesia, which has a relatively nascent democracy, that has been very successful, and its desire for increased engagement with the United States, and others, that you are right. There are a lot of U.S. values that are highly regarded in the region and I think our form of governance is one of them. Senator Lieberman. So in the midst of all that, I worry that as we get this move toward us and urging us to be more involved for mutual economic security, even political governance interests, that we're sending a message out by the cuts in defense that are part of the Budget Control Act (BCA), leaving aside sequestration, that maybe we're not going to be able really to deliver on our promise of increased involvement or, at worst, that people in the region and countries will think it's rhetoric. So I wonder how you feel about whether the cuts required under the BCA of last year, not the potential sequestration, could impose risks on our strategy in the PACOM AOR, and whether you've heard any of those concerns from political or military leaders in the region. Admiral Willard. I think the region broadly recognizes two things: one, that post-two wars a decade long that, as the United States has in the past, a reduction in the defense budget following those wars has generally always occurred and is occurring once again. I think when you combine that fact with the fiscal circumstances and challenges that our country faces in debt and deficit, it does raise questions in the region regarding what the true extent of cuts to the defense budget could be. I think the second dimension to this issue is how in a reduced budget environment the Asia Pacific will be attended to with regard to force structure and readiness in the future. So I think on the one hand it's not particularly surprising to anyone in the region that our defense budget is being reduced, sequestration aside, but I think that it has raised questions and we're asked to clarify how in the reduced budget environment that's being widely publicized that we will meet our requirements in the Asia-Pacific region. Again, I would offer that the answer to that is, regardless of the adjustments in force structure that take place, how we emplace that force structure, bias that force structure into regions of the world that matter most, is I think in the end, what will answer the mail. Senator Lieberman. Well, to me that's a significant answer, and it's one that I hope we will keep in mind as we go forward with our work on the defense authorization bill and our colleagues in the Appropriations Committee do the same on the DOD budget. I hope we can find ways to add on to what the administration has requested pursuant to the BCA. I thank you very much again for your service, your leadership, and your testimony today. Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator Lieberman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Lieberman. Senator Chambliss. Senator Chambliss. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Admiral, to you, let me just echo what others have said with respect to thanking you for your service to our country. You have certainly served in multiple roles of leadership during the time that you have served America and you're to be congratulated for that. Thanks also to your wife for her commitment. I'm just pleased to hear you've made the wise decision of retiring to the Atlanta area. I look forward to continuing to take advantage of you and your expertise since you'll be close by. Let me talk to you for a minute about China. You discussed in your statement the continuing growth of China and their increasing military power, obviously. Specifically, you comment that China's military modernization, and in particular its active development of capabilities in cyber and space domains, and the question all these emerging military capabilities raise among China's neighbors about its current and long-term intentions, is one of the main security challenges confronting the United States across the region. China is developing anti-access and area denial capabilities that may shift the balance of power in the region. The types of platforms and capabilities that China is developing have been interpreted by some to limit freedom of movement by potential adversaries and also to require potential adversaries to conduct military operations at increasing distances. Can you comment on what you believe needs to be done in the Pacific theater to preserve the United States' and our allies' freedom of movement and access across the region? Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator. I think first of all it needs to be understood that in terms of U.S. military presence, we remain present throughout the region and in all areas wherefreedom of action is required. So whether we're talking the South China Sea, East China Sea regions, Philippine Sea, or elsewhere in the Asia Pacific, the United States remains present. In terms of operations in what could be a potentially denied environment, I think it's very important that the United States make the necessary investments to ensure its military access to those regions. I would just offer that in the South China Sea alone the sea lines of communication carry $5.3 trillion of regional commerce, of which $1.2 trillion is U.S. commerce, and the U.S. military must be present there to ensure the security of those sea lines of communication and that important economic commerce for the United States and for our regional allies and partners. So we will be present, and it's important that we make the necessary investments to assure that presence even in a denied area scenario. Senator Chambliss. In that same vein, part of the assets that you have in the inventory there now are a limited number of F-22s, limited by the fact that we only have a limited number that have been produced. We've maintained air superiority and air dominance in that region since the Korean War and it's a vital part of our defensive mechanisms and posture there. Now, with those limited number of F-22s and it looks like potentially a slowdown of the production of F-35s, are you concerned long-term? I realize short-term maybe not, but long-term do you foresee this as a problem when it comes to maintaining air dominance and air superiority? Admiral Willard. Sir, I'm satisfied with, as you suggest, short-term, the number of F-22s that are on hand and available to us. I think we're all somewhat concerned long-term to see that the F-35, in its development, provides the kind of capabilities to our Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps that it was designed to. So very interested to see that program remain healthy and deliver the capabilities that we require out there. Senator Chambliss. Would you consider that weapons system imperative for the long-term capability of air dominance and air superiority? Admiral Willard. I would. I think fifth generation capability is mandated. We have others in the world that are developing those capabilities and, as you suggest, if we requiredominance in the air in the event of a contingency, then certainly the fifth generation fighter capability is part of that equation. Senator Chambliss. General Fraser, the President's 2013 budget plans to cut strategic airlift and retire over 200 aircraft in fiscal year 2013 and nearly 300 aircraft over the Future Years Defense Program. The President's budget will reduce mobility capacity by retiring all C-5As, retiring or cancelling procurement of all planned C-27Js, and retiring 65 C-130s. After these retirements there will be a fleet of 275 strategic airlifters and 318 C-130s. In addition, the Air Force will retire 20 KC-135s and maintain a fleet of 453 air refueling aircraft. With such a reduction of strategic mobility and airlift and the cancellation of a whole airplane program, how do you plan to maintain supply, personnel transport, and logistics chains that require significant airlift capabilities? What additional airlift requirements do you foresee in the future for the various theaters in which TRANSCOM operates, and how confident are you that you're going to have the airlift capabilities that you need? General Fraser. Senator, thank you very much. First off, I would start by saying that we have a new strategy. The force structure that is put forth supports that strategy and it is also backed by some analysis that we have actually completed in looking at that strategy, and also in working with the combatant commanders. With respect to specific platforms that you talked about there, I would comment first on the tankers. You mentioned a 20-tanker reduction. I certainly support that. What we have seen that isactually enabling more capability and capacity with respect to tankers is that depots have gotten better. So as we look to the future and they have streamlined their processes, we're seeing fewer aircraft in the depot, which certainly allows us to take out some of the more costly aircraft there and therefore the reduction with respect to those tankers. Historically, as I recall, they've always planned on about 19 percent of the force being in depot and we're seeing something more along the lines of 10 percent in the future. So that's added capability, coupled with the contract, the KC-46, which is key to the future, and bringing that system online, will give us both air refueling and some lift capability as we transition that aircraft into the Active Duty and are able to support the various theaters around the world. So the KC-46 is a part of that movement to the future and modernizing that fleet. There's also a modernization effort on the KC-135s that we need to continue, which enables them to continue to perform in the future. They're going to have to bridge to the future tanker assets as they come aboard. As I look at the 130s, the numbers that they're talking about are supportable. When I look at the 318, that also includes approximately 50 C-130s to continue to provide direct support to the Army, which is something that the Air Force has moved in over time and has shown that we can do that in the theater. I think, based on my discussions with the commanders in the field, they are very pleased with the support that they are getting with the assets that are there. The C-27, I had the opportunity recently to be in the theater. I talked to the folks there. It's performing well and I'm very proud of the service and what those men and women are doing. But I'd also comment that it's a costly platform. It's a niche platform. So as we look at the strategy and we look to move into the future in a multi-capable aircraft, something like the C-130, a modernized C-130J as we look to the future, something that's going to give us more capability at reduced cost, which is something that is certainly worth considering. So when I look at that from a holistic standpoint, it's certainly supportable. The C-130Hs are going to be modernized. That's a program that is ongoing and the Air Force needs to do that as they enter into some items that are on that aircraft that are going to time out and give them access. So as they optimize that fleet of the future, it will be a very capable force, a modernized force of 318 C-130 aircraft. To the strategic lift, looking at that, I am supportive of the strategy that's put forth, and as we evaluated those numbers and looking at the positive things that are happening with the C-5M, for instance, it has a higher mission capability rate, which gives us greater capacity and capability. It's currently the only aircraft that we can actually fly the polar routes on. You can't do that with the C-5As, for instance, and load much on it. So there's great capacity in these Ms as we move to the future. So modernizing the C-5s and going to 52 C-5Ms in the future gives us greater capacity and capability, with increased mission capable rates, from what we're seeing currently on the As now, around 55 percent, to about 75 percent. So there's greater capacity there, and so that's very positive with respect to the strategic airlift. Also along the same lines, the C-17s continue to perform magnificently in the theater. Every time we have turned to the C-17, it has always been there. So as we move to the future with the C-17s that we have, there will be plenty of them, and so that's how we're able to come up with the strategic airlift to be able to support the theaters in the future. It will support the strategy as I mentioned, and the two- war construct remains in effect. We just have to manage those forces, it's what we'll have to do, and that's what you were talking about there. We in TRANSCOM will ensure that we do that to support the combatant commanders' requirements. Senator Chambliss. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Chambliss. Senator Reed. Senator Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. First let me begin by thanking and commending Admiral Willard and Mrs. Willard for their extraordinary service to the Navy and to the Nation. Thank you, sir, for what you've done. Ma'am, thank you too, and your personal kindness also. Let me just quickly follow on the point that Senator Chambliss made, General Fraser, about strategic airlift. I think it should be noted that Senator Ayotte played a very critical role last year in addressing this issue of C-5As, and we lowered the threshold to 301. Now your proposal, as you indicated, is 275 strategic airlifters. Just to follow on the points you made, which I thought were excellent, it is not just a question of supporting current operations, but also the obligation to reconstitute quickly, if necessary. Are you prepared to reconstitute and increase efforts if called upon, given the proposed 275? General Fraser. Sir, we are postured well to support any of the requirements that we have. As you are aware, we have had pop-up requirements, and with the flexibility that we have within our system as the distribution process owner and synchronizer we're able to reach in and get assets when we need them. I could give examples of where we're able to do that, reaching in with the ability to pull in-service or in-transit aircraft to do a different mission. A case in point would be support for aeromedical airlift that we were asked to do out of Libya. After Libya operations, we were asked to find the necessary assets and, using those in- service assets, diverted and utilized a C-17 to actually pick up some critically injured individuals and bring them back to the United States with a critical care team. The other thing that we were able to do was work with U.S. European Command, utilize some of their assets that they actually had for C-130s, to bring other injured back. We have a very flexible, a very resilient system and process to be able to respond to these pop-ups. Senator Reed. Is it fair to say that, rather than just the number of platforms, it's the capability of individual platforms and the system you use that that gives you advantages and gives you the comfort that you can reduce the number of platforms? General Fraser. It is, sir. It's also the support, the tremendous support that we actually get through the Civil Reserve Air Fleet (CRAF) program. The CRAF and our commercial partners play a big role. An example of that is how they were able to turn and support us when we were asked to bring the troops out of Iraq before the holidays. That's a very busy time of the year, and with the accelerated timeline that we were given, we were able to get 99 percent of the troops back to the United States before the holiday period. That last 1 percent came home before the end of the year as they were turning in some final equipment. So that's the flexibility that we have within the system for both organic and our commercial aircraft. Senator Reed. Thank you. Let me change topics. General Fraser, the NDN is increasingly key to our operations in Afghanistan. Primarily at this point it's a one-way system, but you and your colleagues are trying to make it a two-way system, not only delivering material into the country, but also planning to withdraw material out. Can you comment on the status and the potential importance and growth of the NDN through Kyrgyzstan and other countries? General Fraser. Sir, thank you very much. We have had tremendous support through the NDN. Currently, with the border closed in Pakistan, we're able to continue to support ongoing operations in Afghanistan and we can continue to do that because of the NDN, which is allowing us to bring goods in. But I would also comment along the same lines, it's not just the NDN that's allowing us to do that. It's the other aspects that we have with multi-modal. Multi-modal is allowing us to move our assets to the theater via surface and then fly them in there at the end. So we have a resilient system that gives us more than one way to support the theater, which is not allowing us to have a single point of failure. Along the lines of the retrograde, it's a daunting task, I will admit that. But I'll also say that one of the first trips that I made was to Central Asia back in December, a very positive trip, and had a very good outcome from that trip. We now have two-way approval to move non-lethal equipment back out of Afghanistan. In fact, we have already set ourselves up for a proof of principle and have received approval from the countries to do this through what we call the KKT route, which is through Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and Tajikistan. Also, Russia has approved this and Uzbekistan recently approved this. Not only have Russia, et cetera, approved the non-lethal, but we also have approval to do wheeled armored vehicles. This is something that we didn't have before. We continue to develop these relationships, and so that was a very profitable visit going over there. So now we'll run this proof of principle to check the processes, to check the procedures, but also check the velocity of what could be in the future. I will also comment, though, that with the amount of equipment, and working with the folks on the ground there, we need the Pakistan Ground Lines of Communication (PAK GLOC) open because of the large numbers that we're talking about that we need to bring out in a timely manner. We're tasked this year to bring another 23,000 troops out by the 1st of October. We're already identifying excess equipment now with the commanders on the ground. We have approval to set up a materiel recovery element team that's in theater, which is going to help facilitate this. The other thing I would comment on is, we're also setting up some multi-modal operations, where we are now being more flexible with all aircraft that are flying in the theater. As every aircraft goes in, if it has pallet positions and it has capacity on it, then we are making sure that we put something on that aircraft and bring it back out, in order to maximize that lift and try to get ahead of it as best we can. We have a number of things that are going on, two-way flows, all those other things that I mentioned. Senator Reed. Thank you. Admiral Willard, if I may, you have many challenges in the Pacific and you can categorize them in general terms in many different ways. But one is basically access. One impression I have is that for surface ships access is more problematic because of the ability to detect ships and engage with precision weapons, and that as a result submarines in the Pacific have a greater capability to access places. Is that a fair generalization? Admiral Willard. It is. Senator Reed. So that makes, in your view, the submarine a key aspect of your strategy and your ability to gain access in contested areas? Admiral Willard. It does. Senator Reed. Thank you very much. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Reed. Senator Brown. Senator Brown. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, General Fraser, is it true that we're having difficulty going through Pakistan to provide transport.Is it more difficult now? General Fraser. Sir, the PAK GLOC is shut down at this time. Senator Brown. Right. We give them billions of dollars in aid. That's why, Mr. Chairman, I'm floored that we're giving a country billions of dollars in aid and they can't accommodate us to allow for the safe transport of goods through their country. So that's something I hope, Mr. Chairman, we try to address. That's not for you, but it's more for us, sir. I just want to take it a little step further. What level of risk do we assume by reducing the C-5 fleet, particularly in the area of oversized air cargo capability? General Fraser. Sir, backed by analysis and against the new strategy that has been put forward, we think that any increased risk is manageable as we look to the future. Oversized/outsized cargo, when we look at the scenarios that we run, we can meet the mission. Senator Brown. Do you believe that having a robust strategic airlift capability on the east coast is part of that overall strategy? General Fraser. Sir, the inherent flexibility that we have with air is, of course, we can shift and we can swing it to where we need it. It is not uncommon for us to take forces from one theater to another dependent upon the operations that are needed, whether it's supporting a Haiti operation where we have support of aircraft out of the Pacific, or whether it's in support of a Libyan operation, where we engaged the total force, we have a number of volunteers to support the tanker bridge. These types of things, the flexibility of our air fleet we can position it where we need it. Senator Brown. But in particular with regard to the east coast of the United States, do you think that it's important to have a strategic airlift capability in this part of the country? General Fraser. Sir, again it's not about where it is located; it's the inherent flexibility that I have that I'm able to position it where I need it, and where it comes from is not something that I focus on. Senator Brown. Well, it's something that I focus on as a Senator, and especially when we have a base like Westover, that has incredible airlift capability, has a long and historic relationship providing those services, not only with great honor, but with great capability. So I was wondering if you could comment on how TRANSCOM's mission is affected if that capability is degraded? General Fraser. Sir, we'll still get the support as we work with AMC no matter where the assets are located. They've always stepped up and provided what we need. Senator Brown. Admiral Willard, the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS), how important is that ship with respect to meeting the regional threats? Admiral Willard. I think it will be very important. I think the ship has attributes that certainly we favor out there, including its speed, capacity, and shallow draft. So if the mission modules are properly adapted, I think it will have a wide range of capabilities that can be used in contingency or peacetime. Senator Brown. So do you think your mission will be affected by going below the acquisition program of 55 ships? If so, how? Admiral Willard. Capacity is a capability in and unto itself. I think it's important that we maintain the capacities of force structure where we need them. I think the total acquisition program is less important to PACOM than the number of LCSs that ultimately wind up in that AOR. So however we bias those ships, I think it's important that the LCS is there to meet the needs that PACOM has. Senator Brown. General Fraser, back to you. How does the reversibility plan factor into the overall strategy? In other words, do you feel comfortable that with 275 strategic airlifters we'd be prepared to transport troops and equipment to the region in response to unforeseen contingencies? If so, what sort of risks are involved in that decision? General Fraser. Sir, I am confident in the number 275. We also have to understand that we are backed by a tremendous commercial partnership that we have through the CRAF program and the ability to move both passengers and cargo. They have been instrumental in continuing to provide support to the theater, whether it's direct or actually through multi-modal operations. Senator Brown. Admiral, do you agree with that? Do you think that we need only 275 airlift mobility assets to meet the mission requirements? Admiral Willard. I agree with General Fraser's assessment of how we will make that number work, yes. Senator Brown. I'm deeply concerned about the Air Guard and Air Force Reserves, General Fraser. I know it's a big part of your operations, and as the Air Force begins to downsize some of the things I've heard from a lot of the Air Guard, especially concerns about the gutting of that asset--I'm wondering if you could maybe talk about that and how it affects, it factors into TRANSCOM's overall strategy, because I have always felt that that's where the best bang for the buck is, and I'd just like to get your thoughts on that. General Fraser. Sir, our Total Force--the Guard, Reserve, and Active Duty--have always come together to meet the mission. We very much value the contributions that our Guard and Resere continue to provide us. They have always been there when the call went out. I would use the operation in Libya again as an example, in that when we needed to set up the tanker bridge we turned to AMC, who then reached out to our Guard and Reserve. They looked for volunteers. They were ready, they raised their hand, and they went forward. So they've always been there and volunteered to support the mission. Senator Brown. Are you getting a handle on the container detention fees that resulted in millions of dollars in penalties, and can you comment on what has been done to mitigate these fees? General Fraser. Sir, we're taking a number of different actions with respect to the container detention fees. We continue to monitor it very closely. A couple of things that we have done recently, I have personally engaged the commanders not only at U.S. Central Command, but also I talked to General Allen about this when I was in the theater, as well as other commanders that are in the field in Afghanistan. We have learned some lessons from the past in Iraq with respect to our containers and how we manage them. A couple of things that we're doing is to try and make sure that when we're in Afghanistan, we try to use as many government-owned containers as we can and then return those that belong to our commercial carriers back into the system as rapidly as we can. There's an accountability process that we're also going through to make sure that we have a container management system that more accurately tracks where these containers are. We're actually going to address it in our next universal services contract (USC) as we move from what we call USC 6 to USC 7. So there are some actions that we're taking within that contracting vehicle to, one, give us more flexibility, in other words increasing the days of ``free-time'' before detention charges start accruing. Also, the fact that we'll go from a minimum of 90 days to 60 days before we can buy the container, which drives the container purchase price down. So these are things that we're working with commanders, with education on how important it is for commanders to get the containers back into the system. It's a holistic approach. Senator Brown. Thank you. Senator Lieberman [presiding]. Thanks, Senator Brown. Senator Inhofe. Just a unanimous consent request, if I could, Mr. Chairman. Senator Lieberman. Go right ahead. Senator Inhofe. Regarding my opposition to the UNCLOS, I ask unanimous consent that an article written by John Bolton that appeared in the Wall Street Journal on September 29, 2011, be made a part of the record. Senator Lieberman. Without objection. Thank you. [The information referred to follows:] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Senator Lieberman. Senator Hagan. Senator Hagan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to express my deep appreciation and thanks for your service, Admiral Willard and General Fraser, and particularly, Donna Willard, thank you for all of your commitment, hard work, and service to our country, too. Admiral Willard, China continues to assert its claim to the South and East China seas at the expense of its neighbors. Would you expand on the excessive maritime claims the Chinese are making in these waters, to include increases in aggressive behavior? Admiral Willard. Thank you, ma'am. I will, although I would offer that China is not the only claimant in those waters whose claims are regarded as excessive. So there are, as you'll recall, six claimants in the South China Sea: Taiwan and China, Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, and Brunei. All lay claim to features and/or islands in the South China Sea region. Some have submitted to UNCLOS their continental shelf claims and so on, and in many cases they're disputed. What makes China unique is that they've laid claim to virtually all of it. The assertion that the South China Sea writ large is China's historical water and that all the features and islands and consequent resources that are located there should be regarded as Chinese I think is the contentious issue within the region and among those contiguous nations that also claim many of those features. We've seen fewer confrontations in 2012 than we did in previous years. 2010 was quite a landmark in terms of the confrontations that were ongoing. That's not to say they're not occurring now. So China continues to challenge any vessels that are conducting resource surveys, oil and gas surveys for example, that are within their claimed space. They continue to often shadow military ships and activities that are occurring within that claimed space, and they're making continuouslegal assertions and demarches to reinforce their claims. So they remain aggressive. I would offer, Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) is carrying out discussions with China and has been effective as a multinational forum in keeping maritime security and issues with regard to excessive claims in the South China Sea on the table, and they are in discussions with China. Senator Hagan. Why do you think the conflict has been less in 2012 versus 2010? Admiral Willard. I think that the reaction by the ASEAN members, the reaction by the United States in Secretary Clinton and Secretary Gates' very strong statements at the ASEAN regional forum and Shangri-La dialogues, combined with many ASEAN members protesting strongly, and the fact that it was made somewhat public I think took China aback and has caused them to reconsider that particular approach to their South China Sea claims, such that they are endeavoring to continue to pursue it, but in a more thoughtful manner. Senator Hagan. Let me follow up on China's impact in Southeast Asia. Their impact will only grow as its economy and drive for energy, raw materials, and markets expands. It's precisely this behavior that challenges various countries in Southeast Asia to debate their policies and look for regional and extra-regional allies. In effect, countries in the region are playing several strategic games at once, with each move requiring consideration of relationships that they have with China, the United States, and other regional actors. How can the United States maneuver in this environment to develop deeper ties and ensure a positive and organically integrated presence in the region to contribute to long-term stability? Admiral Willard. Thank you. I don't disagree with your summary statement in terms of the situation in Southeast Asia, although I would add that China's economic growth has benefited the entire region and has certainly benefited the United States and our economic ties to China. So I think it would be unfair to imply that China's influence in Southeast Asia should only be regarded from the standpoint of the challenge that it poses. I think Southeast Asian nations, most of whom now regard China as their number one trading partner, are benefiting greatly from that association, as is the United States. So from a standpoint of regional prosperity, I think China's rise has benefited us all, and we should continue to promote that rise and the advance of the Asia region for what it connotes. That said, the nations, as it relates to security and even as it relates, I think, to their economic reliance on any single partner, do desire to strike a balance between China, the United States, the European Union, and others, rising economies like India and established economies like Japan and South Korea. So there is a balance that has to be struck and the United States, I think, is accomplished in maneuvering in that space, where we're attempting to either sustain or obtain a greater share of market in areas where the United States can affect trade in either direction. Trans-Pacific Partnership is a fairly recent initiative to try and advance some of this, and we have as a consequence of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation and the East Asia Summit I think advances that have occurred there. Senator Hagan. Thank you. General Fraser, in your written statement you speak to a wide variety of missions, everything from humanitarian response to obviously supporting our warfighter. Would you highlight some of these missions and speak to how you are able to accomplish them, given a very constrained environment? General Fraser. Thank you, Senator. The mission that we have is indeed a global mission, and it is one that I am continually amazed at the flexibility that we have within the system to respond in many different areas. One area that we were most proud of was with the accelerated withdrawal out of Iraq and the ability to be able to partner together with our commercial partners, with our organic assets, to then accomplish the mission before the holidays was tremendous. We've also been able to continue to partner to support other organizations. I would highlight the National Science Foundation (NSF) recently. I made mention in my opening remarks about Antarctica. Something that a lot of people don't realize is the support that TRANSCOM gives to NSF. Recently, there were issues with the ice pier at the McMurdo Station and it was going to put NSF and their experiments at risk for next year, as well as the winter-over force that stays both at the South Pole and at McMurdo. Our people were asked to be innovative and so together we worked with the Army for a modular causeway system that had not been used like this before, in such a harsh environment, which we then used our Surface Deployment Distribution Command, who worked to move it from the east coast to the west coast. We worked with MSC to then get on contract with a contractor to load this onto a ship that also had the containers to take the supplies and NSF equipment to McMurdo. We then sailed down, NSF got the icebreaker in there, and we were able to then deploy the causeway system, offload the containers, and so we got mission success. That's another agency that we wind up supporting. So that's one end of the spectrum. We talked earlier about other support to operations, but I'd highlight the support that we give our commercial partners through piracy operations. This actually goes back to AFRICOM and support we give there. Working with our commercial partners, we work to ensure where we have military cargo headed towards the theater and transiting that area, that we put security teams aboard. Since we have been doing that, we have not had one of our ships pirated, and we are very supportive of the initiative in the international community to protect the ships. Normally those that are what they call high-board, above 25 feet, and moving at high speeds, above 20 knots, are not as much at risk, but recently we had one hijacked from another country just within the past week or so. So it's a dangerous environment. So these are other types of things that we do, not only just supporting our troops that are engaged in the theater, but a couple of quick examples of other operations that we're very proud of, of what we do, all while still supporting the warfighter, still doing the things that we're asked to do in the theater. They're not wanting for anything with respect to the current closure of the PAK GLOC, either. I'm very proud of them. Thank you. Senator Hagan. So supporting the private containers, and that's only when DOD supplies are on board? General Fraser. That's correct. Senator Hagan. As far as security forces on board? General Fraser. That's correct. Senator Hagan. Thank you. I really appreciate your help with the NSF. I think R&D goes a long way in everything we do, and your support in that area is outstanding. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Hagan. Senator Wicker. Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, gentlemen. We appreciate the service that both of you have provided and are providing. Let me begin with Admiral Willard. You were correct in your oral testimony to go quickly to the issue of Korea and North Korea, to mention the transition there and the uncertainty that it brings. Our allies in the Republic of Korea, South Korea, have a fleet of F-16s, which is known as the KF-16 in Korean service. They're eager to replace their mechanically scanned array radar with active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, and you can't blame them for wanting to do that. Admiral, in case something broke out that involved a conflict, do you agree that air dominance will be a key differentiator for allied forces during the first 24 hours of any potential conflict, including the Korean Peninsula? If you do, do you then agree that cooperating with the Koreans and supporting their desire for expeditious Korean procurement of existing defense technology is a good idea so that they can meet their operational requirements? Admiral Willard. I do agree, particularly on the Korean Peninsula, on the importance of air dominance early in any particular conflict that would occur. I also agree that we should strive to maximize the level of cooperation between ourselves and our Republic of Korea allies with regard to the acquisitions they require to continue to advance their capabilities. Senator Wicker. So you agree that the U.S. Government should fully support the Republic of Korea's air force requirements and their acquisition timeline in acquiring United States export-compliant AESA? Admiral Willard. I support the level of cooperation that is required to advance the Republic of Korea's military capabilities, including their aviation capabilities. With regard to that, to whether AESA radar and the exchange of that particular technology is appropriate on Korea's timeline, I think that should continue to be subject to discussions between the two countries. There are certainly compliance requirements on the part of the Republic of Korea, as well as the releasability requirements on the part of the United States. This is not the first country we've had this discussion with. But in general, sir, to your assertion, I truly believe that we should strive to maximize the potential of our Republic of Korea ally, including their military capabilities. In fact, more important now perhaps than in the past, as we strive to reach December 2015 and operational control transition to the South Koreans. Senator Wicker. Thank you very much. Let me ask you then, staying with North Korea: U.S. and North Korean envoys met last week for talks on dismantling North Korea's nuclear programs;included in that will be discussions of food aid, economic help, diplomatic concessions from the United States of America. What is your current assessment of the humanitarian food situation in North Korea, and do you believe North Korea is being sincere and truthful and forthcoming in entering these negotiations with the United States? Admiral Willard. I think the food situation in North Korea is always an issue of global interest. World Food was in there conducting an assessment early last year, as I recall, trying to ascertain just what the extent of crop success was in North Korea. There is always a level of food shortage that exists there, and always humanitarian need, as we've witnessed it there. In terms of the negotiations that have been ongoing, I have been supportive of them with regard to the United States' proposals for conditional food aid into North Korea and the preconditions that have come with it, which now include discussions of cessation of nuclearization and ballistic missile testing and the allowance of the International Atomic Energy Association perhaps back into Yongbyon. So there are conditions that are going along with the negotiations with regard to the extent of food aid. They've received food aid from many other countries this year, and I remain supportive of the progress that we're making in the talks with North Korea to the extent that they occur. Senator Wicker. You don't blame some of us on this side of the panel for having a healthy degree of skepticism with regard to North Korea's intentions? Admiral Willard. I have a healthy degree of skepticism with regard to North Korea's intentions, and I think we need to observe both their actions and requests with a great deal of scrutiny. Certainly we've been through the cycle many times in the past, and I know, Senator, you're aware that these requests for concessions often lead into a breakdown and a resulting next provocation. So we are skeptical as well. But with regard to the extent of these current negotiations, I think particularly when there's a new regime or a new leader in place in North Korea, it will be important to ascertain any degree of success that we might obtain through these diplomatic channels. Senator Wicker. I suppose it's worth a try, but I'm not holding out much hope and remain very troubled, as I'm sure you are. Quickly, let me ask about the 30-year shipbuilding plan and the minimum sustaining rates contained therein. Many observe this could pose challenges to fulfilling the force requirements and possibly give rise to a sealift capability gap and an aviation lift gap in 2015. With the pivot to this vast Asia- Pacific region and your AOR and the Navy's inability to meet its own requirement for 313 ships, how will this minimum sustaining rate affect your ability to protect American security interests? Did you support this in discussions with your superiors, and are you satisfied that you can fulfill the mission with this 30-year shipbuilding plan? Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator. I would fall back on the statement that I made earlier. The total acquisition program that the Navy has put down to try and sustain itself and the capacities of our fleet and eventually grow those capacities over time is important and certainly as a naval officer something that I've observed with great interest over many years. But as the PACOM commander, it's more important with regard to how we bias those ships globally and whether or not the AOR that, as you suggest, is a vast maritime one in the Asia Pacific, is being adequately serviced. To date, I am well serviced with regard to the Navy. I think Navy capacities are very important. Our industrial base capacity is very important that they be sustained. These minimum sustained production rates that you're talking about are intended to maintain our minimum acceptable industrial base. All of these things are important for our Nation, certainly. In terms of PACOM, I think it's important that the right number of ships and the right type of ships be present there. Senator Wicker. Thank you. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Senator Akaka. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I want to say aloha to the two military leaders before us today. It's good to see you. Gentlemen, first I want to say thank you so much for your dedicated service to our country and also to the communities that you've served. We have really gained from your responsibilities and your actions. Admiral Willard, I would like to add my appreciation to you and congratulations on your upcoming retirement, which is soon. I want to tell you that I agree 100 percent with your UNCLOSposition for our country. It's about time that we become serious about that. Also, I want to commend you for the balance which you've brought during your time as PACOM commander, and I would tell you, you've made a huge difference in the Pacific, so thank you for that, and to tell you that your departure will be a significant loss to the Navy and to our country. I want you to know, and Donna to know, that it has been a pleasure to work with you in Hawaii and for our country. You've served Hawaii and you've been there on multiple assignments. I think you know, I don't have to tell you, that you have a deep relationship and connection with the community in Hawaii. I want to congratulate you and wish you well in your future with Donna and the family. Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator Akaka. Senator Akaka. Admiral Willard, it is impossible to overstate the importance of our military engagement in the Asia-Pacific region. As I said, I commend you for your nurturing of balance there in the entire area. If you look at continuing developments in the Pacific, our conventional adversaries are improving their capabilities, too, as we work together on this balance. My question to you, Admiral, is, given this rebalance to the Pacific and the responsibilities we have in the theater, how would you assess our force structure plans in relation to military and diplomatic goals for the region as we look to the future? Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator Akaka. Before I answer your question, I would offer that the State of Hawaii and the City of Honolulu have been great supporters of the military families and members that are stationed there. Thank you for your continued support for us in the region. I think as we look at force structure there is the issue of the type of forces that are present in the Asia-Pacific region and there is the issue of posture and where they're present in order that we can maintain the continuous presence in the region that's so important to its security and long-term stability. The initiatives, such as the nation of Australia, the nation-state or city-state of Singapore, and now in discussions with the Philippines, that are occurring are going to assist us in the posture-related issue, which is getting the force structure where it can do the most good in terms of providing a mechanism to maintain the presence that we need in the region. As we view the acquisition programs and force structure of the future in this budgetary environment, we, like every other combatant, remain focused and guarded as we watch these defense reductions occur, to ensure that we don't cut into the kind of forces and the quantity of forces that our strategic priorities call for. We spent time very recently walking through a global laydown of forces and looking at the forces that this current program will deliver and our ability to meet the strategic needs of our Nation, including in the Asia Pacific, and I think collectively as combatant commanders and Service Chiefs we felt we could do that. I think it's an important study to maintain ongoing and there are two additional events that are presently scheduled. But I have been well-served in the Asia-Pacific region and I'm confident that the force structure that is envisioned can continue to serve PACOM well. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much. General Fraser, the recently announced rebalancing calls for a shift in focus to the Asia-Pacific region, a vast geographic area encompassing 9,000 square miles, 36 nations, and 16 time zones, all of which I'm sure Admiral Willard knows really well. My question to you, General Fraser, is, while the details of this strategic balancing, rebalancing, have yet to be finalized, do you have any preliminary thoughts on how a refocus to the Asia-Pacific region could impact TRANSCOM? General Fraser. Senator, thank you very much. As we look at this shift, we've already seen a lot of engagement in the PACOM theater of operations as we have continued to support ongoing exercises, as we've continued to support other types of engagements within the theater. I think as we come back out or have come back out of Iraq already, but as we further reduce the force out of Afghanistan, we'll free up some other assets maybe for other opportunities for engagement, and then we'll have the opportunity to do that. It is one that's going to take balance and it's going to take a lot of good planning on our part to make sure that we properly support each of our ground combatant commanders in their various theaters of operations. They all have theater engagement plans. We're taking a look at them to ensure that we provide the necessary support. One of the things that we are able to do in our command is not just with our organic assets; it's our commercial partners, both sea and air, that will allow us that flexibility in utilizing their networks and their connections to also continue to provide support. So as those forces are available for various engagements, it does not have to be just organic. So in peacetime versus wartime, we're able to utilize those assets, which is good for the economy, which keeps that industrial base alive, too, both across the sea and the air side of the business. So we're confident that we'll be able to provide that support. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much. Admiral Willard, with the new strategy rebalancing our forces with a focus in the Pacific, the need for strategically located maintenance facilities, like the Pearl Harbor Shipyard, appears critical to the readiness of our fleet. Can you discuss the role you see Pearl Harbor Shipyard playing with this rebalancing, as well as the importance of continuing the modernization efforts at the shipyard in order to support the fleet in the future? Admiral Willard. I can, thank you, Senator. You know as well as I do not only the strategic importance of Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard, but also the other aircraft depots and shipyards throughout the Asia-Pacific region that we rely on, from the west coast of the United States to our ability to conduct voyage repairs in foreign ports such as Singapore. But I have stated for the past 5 years and I will continue to state the vital strategic importance of the Pearl Harbor Shipyard and what it provides. It's unique in the sense that it not only conducts the overhauls of our surface ships and our submarines, but it also conducts day-to-day maintenance and voyage repairs for the ships that are positioned forward. It's located, as we all know, in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, which is the largest ocean in the world, and provides ready access into the Asia Pacific. The three submarines that we have homeported in Guam utilize the Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard for their maintenance and overhaul activities and rotate back, and don't have to go all the way back to the west coast of the United States to obtain that maintenance. So it is a vital and pivotal strategic asset for us. The need to keep it continually modernized is as important as any shipyard that we have in our Nation. It is, I think, a very important partner. When we talk about the industrial base, not just production but maintenance, it's a vital part of that industrial base. Senator Akaka. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Akaka. Senator Ayotte. Senator Ayotte. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it. General Fraser, I wanted to ask you, the Air Force is finalizing its KC-46A basing criteria for the Air Force. One of the concerns that I have, and I'm hopeful that the Air Force will do this, is that the criteria that comes out for the basing of the KC-46A will be objective and transparent, in terms of what criteria you're using in deciding who will receive the KC-46A first. I wanted to ask you about that process, where it was at, in particular what the balance will be between the Active Duty and the Guard bases, and whether it will be taking into account what I think is very, very important, which is some of our Guard units already have an existing partnership with the Active Duty, including my own, that I've been quite impressed with, and I think that will be important in terms of utilization. So can you help us with that? General Fraser. Senator, thank you very much. As you've stated, it's an Air Force process, which we are not a part of in TRANSCOM. But, having been in the Air Force when we were doing this, I think you accurately stated that it is an objective process, it's open, it's transparent, it's repeatable. The fact that they are very open about that and establishing the criteria as to what is going to be needed in those discussions that go on in a very open manner with a number of different locations, I think, is something that you can look forward to as they go through that process. You asked where the process is. I don't know where the process is right now. I know they are actively engaged in working with AMC discussing who will be the lead command for the KC-46. Senator Ayotte. Thank you. I had to raise the issue because when we were home I went up with our 157th Air Refueling Wing and had a chance to see them do their work up there, and have been incredibly impressed. We actually had the highest utilization rate in the entire Air National Guard at Pease Air National Guard Base last year for the KC-135, and we already have an Active Duty partnership established. So it's one of those situations where, I think, if we do this in an objective and transparent way to speak to the accomplishments of our own unit in New Hampshire, they have quite the objective accomplishments and close proximity to the refueling track. So I hope that you'll convey, obviously, to the Chief of Staff and to your commander how important it is that this be an open and objective process. General Fraser. Yes, ma'am. Senator Ayotte. Thanks so much, I appreciate that. I wanted to ask about, Admiral Willard, an issue that I was concerned about last year in the National Defense Authorization Request. It's something that I learned about that was of deep concern to me, and that's the Maritime Prepositioning Force (MPF). As I understand it, and this may be a better question for General Fraser, whichever of you it is the better question for, but last year the Navy announced plans to place 6 of its 16 ships from the 3-squadron MPFs for the Marine Corps into reduced operating status beginning in fiscal year 2013. When I learned about this, I was concerned about what this would mean in terms of our readiness. I asked the Marine Corps about it and the Commandant of the Marine Corps felt that it needed additional analysis. So, in last year's NDAA, there is actually a requirement that the Marine Corps, as well as the Navy, submit an analysis about the readiness implications of reducing our MPFs. As I understand it, there may be further reductions there in the proposed 2013 budget. So I just wanted to ask both of you if you were aware of that portion of the Defense Authorization in 2012 and where that readiness assessment was and if you can share anything with respect to where we are with the MPFs? Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator. From PACOM's perspective, yes, we're aware of the proposal to put one of the three squadrons in a reduced readiness status. Of importance, the two most active squadrons, one located in Guam and one located in Diego Garcia, are not candidates for that. So those that are there to respond to the major contingencies in the Asia-Pacific region remain intact and are, frankly, utilized frequently and exercised on a periodic basis in order to ensure their readiness. So from the standpoint of readiness in terms of Asia Pacific contingencies and the contingencies in the Middle East that these prepositioned ships service, we remain in pretty good shape. I can't answer to the tasker that the Services come together on their assessment of how this could impact longer- term readiness as that third squadron is placed in a limited readiness status. Senator Ayotte. I certainly appreciated your answer and I'm hoping that we'll have a follow-up, which I will obviously pursue with the Navy, because the NDAA from 2012 requires thatthe Commandant of the Marine Corps provides a report assessing the impact of the move on military readiness, and the SECDEF has to certify that the risks to readiness from such a move are acceptable. So I think you'll be consulted, I would think, in that analysis. My concern is, particularly with what we see happening around the world right now, having those MPFs becomes very important because, unfortunately, we've been noticeably bad at predicting where the next conflict is going to come, and those MPFs become very, very critical in terms of our readiness posture. Admiral Willard. I think we agree with you that the MPFs are vital to us. Senator Ayotte. Great. Thank you so much for that. I just wanted to follow up. I believe at your confirmation, Admiral Willard, I'd asked you about the fiscal year 2013 budget, and the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) had said last spring that in order for us to meet all of our needs around the world that we needed a ship force of 313, and this budget really maintains us at 285. One of the concerns that I have is it delays, for example, production of one Virginia-class submarine, as well as some LCSs and some others in terms of where we are in production. One of the concerns I have is what the strategic analysis or strategic thinking was for not meeting the 313 and maintaining us at 285 and really delaying production of some of our important assets; and I just would like to follow up on that and ask you whether you have an answer to that, particularly with our shift now to the Asia Pacific? Admiral Willard. As you well know, the Navy surface force has maintained itself, pretty much sustained itself, at that 280 to 285 number now for numerous years. In fact, for about the last decade we've been struggling to get above that and reach the 313 floor, or however it is currently being termed by our Navy, in terms of what we aspire to have, to meet all the global requirements that the Navy maritime strategy has determined we need. It's important that over time we recognize where we are decremented in comparison to the overall strategic design for the Nation as a Navy, as a military. The strategic priorities that have been established are intended, I think, to guide us in terms of where the maritime commitment should be and will pay off the greatest for the United States. The Asia-Pacific region has been called out as one of those areas, where it's not only vast and inherently maritime, but as a consequence of its economic importance to the United States and our allies and partners and many of the challenges associated there, it places a particular demand on maritime assets. So provided that within that body of 285 ships we're able to bias those forces properly into the right areas of the world where the payoff is great, then I'm satisfied. I think the CNO would tell you that in his longer-term view of shipbuilding that, while the 2013 budget and the programs that it represents doesn't show the 285 on the increase toward the Navy's goals, if you look at more than one program, if you look at this long- term, that he does eventually begin to make some progress as a Navy in terms of shipbuilding. So I think it's important to recognize that we've been in this situation for a while. There is the cost of doing our business, of acquiring ships, that continually needs attention and gets great help from this committee. We need to reduce ship costs and other acquisition costs as we can. But I think what's most important is that we put the ships where they'll do the most good, and we think that the Asia-Pacific region is one of those areas of the world where that will happen. The Middle East is obviously going to continue to require our attention, too. Senator Ayotte. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you very much, General. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Ayotte. Senator Shaheen. Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral and General, thank you both for being here today. I want to follow up, General Fraser, with Senator Ayotte's question about the basing criteria for the KC-46. We share an interest in that since we both represent New Hampshire. We don't often get the opportunity to double-team you all in quite the same way we are this morning, so I have to take advantage of that. In New Hampshire we believe that under any objective criteria our strategic location in the Northeast, our proximity to operational and training air refueling tracks, our current tanker task force mission, and our Active Duty association, that we would be a unique choice and would result in a very cost-effective utilization of the placement of the KC-46s. So we hope that it is a very transparent and open process. I won't ask you to comment on that since you've said you can't. Senator Ayotte talked about New Hampshire National Guard's 157th Air Refueling Wing, which has been providing continuous operations since September 11th, both for Homeland defense and in support of overseas conflicts. Like other Air National Guard units, they've done so at a fraction of the cost of Active bases around the country. In fact, the Air National Guard represents only 6 percent of the Air Force budget, and yet it provides nearly 35 percent of its capabilities. We've seen in the last couple of days, concern expressed by 49 Governors about the cuts to the Air Guard as part of the proposed budget from the Air Force. Again, I know you can't comment on that, but I wonder if you could comment on the role that our Air National Guard has played in providing critical transport for our operations around the world? General Fraser. Thank you, Senator. I do appreciate that. I can't tell you how much I do appreciate all that our Guard are doing. They've always been there when the call came, not only when they were mobilized, but when they were asked to volunteer and willing to support any mission that may arise. As you know and you commented on, we have been heavily tasked in a number of different areas. That's where I think the great strength comes, the balance that we have within the total force and the ability to use the Active Duty, the Guard, and the Reserve in this manner to meet the mission. Therefore, our commanders have not had to want for something else and not be supported. It's that total team effort to get this done. But you have to have the right balance. The Guard has been heavily tasked. They are also doing a lot more with respect to their boots-on- the-ground (BOG)/dwell, as we call it, the BOG and the dwell time they get back at home, and it's not at the desired rate. So, hopefully, if we have the right balance and as we make some of these necessary adjustments, we'll then be able to get to the desired rates for both the Active Duty as well as the Guard and the Reserve. This is something that we're all striving to do as we look forward to the future. But we very much value and appreciate all the contributions they've made. Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I think your point about the total force is an important one. I do share the concerns of the Governors in looking at the total budget reductions that would have the Air Guard absorbing 59 percent of those aircraft budget reductions and about six times the per capita personnel reductions. So again, I know you can't comment on that, but I'm interested to hear the rationale at the appropriate time. Admiral Willard, India has become a much more prominent partner of the United States and potential ally on military-to- military issues in the last several years. Last year, the United States cleared the way for the resumption of high technology defense and aerospace exports to India. However, it does seem that there is still room for growth in our relationship. I wonder if you could talk about what PACOM's priorities are for the U.S.-India security relationship and how those are affected by both China and Pakistan, recognizing that Pakistan isn't part of your purview, but critical, obviously, to what happens with India? Admiral Willard. Thank you very much, and thank you for raising India. It's a very important partner in the region and one that, as you suggest, there remains room for growth and advancement in our partnership. It has advanced in the past 2\1/2\ years that I've been at PACOM, and in the previous 2\1/ 2\ years as Pacific Fleet Commander we were very much engaged with India and attempting to advance the relationship then. If you range back to our history with India, we are in a fairly nascent stage of engagement nation-to-nation, given that this is the largest democracy in the world, like-minded in many ways, and in a troubled region of the world in South Asia, but a very important partnership. From a security standpoint, we are engaging across all our Services with India at an increasing rate every year. There are challenges in the relationship. We overcome still the trust deficit as it relates to having departed South Asia years ago and having terminated relationships with both India and Pakistan following nuclear tests in the late 1990s. But I think that the current dialogue that is from the President on down and certainly at a military level is very robust in overcoming all of this. There is certainly a China factor in India. They have a long-term border dispute that continues to be a challenge for both countries, and they fought a war over it in 1962. China is a very strong partner of Pakistan and Pakistan- India have the relationship that we're all aware of, both nuclear-armed and with a long-term history of animosity between the two of them. To India's credit, they're maintaining ministerial-level dialogue with Pakistan and have for the past nearly 2 years, even post-Mumbai and all of the tension that that created. So, I think your emphasis on India and its importance is exactly the right one. From a security standpoint and a security assistance standpoint, they remain very important and a partner of focus for PACOM. Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much. My time has expired. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Cornyn. Senator Cornyn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral, General, thank you for being here. Thank you for your service. I want to tell Senator Shaheen I appreciate her questions about the U.S.-India relationship, as one of the co-founders of the U.S.-India Caucus in the Senate, which has a strong and robust membership and a lot of interaction. I appreciate your acknowledgment and statement about the importance of that relationship from a security standpoint, an economic standpoint, and across the board. My questions, you'll have to forgive me, General, I'm going to ask Admiral Willard some questions about China and particularly Taiwan. Admiral, you say in your prepared testimony that: ``Taiwan remains the most acute sovereignty issue for China and the main driver for military modernization programs. The military balance across the Taiwan Strait continues to shift in China's favor.'' Would you agree that were China to launch some sort of military offensive against Taiwan that such a scenario would have the potential to draw the United States into a dangerous large-scale conflict in the region? Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator. Certainly the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA) and three communiques combined, but the TRA in particular, establishes the position the United States would take on such coercion were it to be launched against Taiwan, and it then becomes a decision by our President and by Congress to decide what the U.S. reaction to that would be. But does it have the potential? We regard the defense of Taiwan as a PACOM responsibility. So, yes, it would have the potential to draw the United States into conflict. Senator Cornyn. According to DOD, China's official defense budget has grown by an average of 12.1 percent since 2001. So it seems as we are talking about scaling back our defense budget, China has continued to grow by leaps and bounds. Would you agree that the likelihood of Chinese aggression against Taiwan becomes more likely as Taiwan's ability to defend itself deteriorates? Admiral Willard. I'm not sure that I would contend that. I think it's important and we've established the importance through policy for a long time that Taiwan should have a self- defense capability, and our responsibility in working with DOD and in working with you is to ensure that the defense articles and services that we assist Taiwan with provide for that self- defense. As we've seen the administrations change on Taiwan and the reelection of President Ma and his administration just this year, we would offer that the tensions across the Strait have, in fact, relaxed during his administration and that advancements in relations between the People's Republic of China (PRC) and Taiwan have occurred. So, I think it would be presumptive to assume that simply that imbalance in combat power would necessarily encourage conflict. That said, there's no question that the balance of combat power resides with the PRC. Senator Cornyn. I recently wrote a letter to President Obama--actually it was last November 18, 2011--and received a response on February 15, 2012, from James N. Miller, Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to have both letters made part of the record. Chairman Levin. They will be made part of the record. [The information referred to follows:] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Senator Cornyn. Let me just quote a couple of sentences from this letter. Mr. Miller says: ``A key conclusion in the Report to Congress on Taiwan's Air Defense Force is that Taiwan's approach to defense cannot match the Mainland one-for- one. Taiwan defense spending cannot match the Mainland's, nor can it develop the same type of military the Mainland is developing. The report concludes that Taiwan needs to focus its planning and procurement efforts on nontraditional, innovative and asymmetric approaches, and we are working with Taiwan to do so.'' That was not a very encouraging letter I received from Secretary Miller. But let me just get down to some of the specifics with regard to operational combat aircraft. According to DOD, the PRC has 2,300 operational aircraft and the Government of Taiwan has only 490 operational aircraft. The administration recently notified Congress of its intent to upgrade some of the existing F-16 A and B versions, 145 of those, and I support the retrofit for these older F-16s. But it does nothing to replace the growing obsolescence of Taiwan's fighter jets. By 2020 it's estimated that virtually all of Taiwan's fighter jets will have to be retired except for the 145 F-16 As and Bs that we sold Taiwan during the George Herbert Walker Bush administration, and which are now the subject of this upgrade. Can you give me a little more confidence that we are meeting our obligations under the TRA and the three communiques you mentioned? Because it seems to me that China is growing its military capability while Taiwan is losing its military capability, and the United States, which is legally obligated to provide defensive material to Taiwan, is not meeting its full obligations to equip them with what they need to defend themselves against the potential of a Chinese attack. Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator. I've been on the record in the past acknowledging that eventually Taiwan's aviation capability will have to be recapitalized. I too was encouraged when the F-16A-B upgrade was approved. I think that is the right thing to do. I think it does, in fact, enhance the reduction of their air forces. It was an upgrade much needed and it will improve their capabilities. I'm not sure that a comparison of combat capability or capacity with the PRC and Taiwan is a fair one to make. Nor do I believe that there is any reasonable desire for or ability to achieve parity between the two. China is as big as the United States, maintains a fighter fleet, as you suggest, of over 2,000 aircraft, but has a lot of territory to cover. Taiwan's an island 200 miles long, maintains a fighter force of about 450 aircraft. So an apples-to-apples comparison, I don't think, is necessarily the argument in this particular instance. The argument is whether or not Taiwan is sufficiently defensible in the context of the TRA and what was intended from a policy standpoint. We contribute to some of that at PACOM in our engagement with the Taiwanese military and trying to understand their needs. But we look more broadly than just their aviation needs and try to look across their armed forces and in all domains how well they are equipped and manned to defend themselves. I think that balance is important for us to recognize and also sufficiency in that regard across all of those various areas. So, I see the recapitalization needs having been in the near-term met. As you suggest, I'm not sure that in the longest-term it's going to meet all their needs in the aviation area. But in their other services, they have needs as well, and I think the defense budget of Taiwan needs to be reflective of a balanced approach to achieving a sufficient amount of defense. Senator Cornyn. If I can conclude, Mr. Chairman, just with this one comment. Thank you for your answer, but I'm concerned as I see China continuing to grow its military, Taiwan's military capability continues to recede in comparison, that that will cause perhaps a greater potential that the United States would be required to come to the aid of our ally under the TRA and the three communiques you mentioned. It strikes me that the more capable that Taiwan is to defend itself, the less the likelihoodthat the United States might be called upon to share in that defense in the event of an attack. Thank you both, gentlemen. Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator. Chairman Levin. Thank you, Senator Cornyn. I just have a few questions for the second round. First, I was also glad, Admiral, to hear your answers relative to our relations with India, our security and military relations. It's a very significant partner in the region. The growing and robust relationship, I believe, is good news and the right way to go, and your answer is very reassuring to me, as it was to other members of the committee. Admiral, relative to North Korea, has the change in leadership of North Korea impacted the agreement which was reached in October 2011 with North Korea to allow U.S. personnel back in North Korea to resume the recovery of remains of U.S. servicemembers missing from the Korean War? Admiral Willard. Senator, there was a pause in discussions, but no pause in terms of initiative on our part to proceed with what was agreed to in terms of Joint Personnel Accounting Command (JPAC) returning to North Korea to seek additional remains. We currently have a ship in Nampo that has been offloading a first wave of equipment to support that. My concern is for the security of the personnel from JPAC that would execute these missions, and so I continue to view into North Korea carefully to assure DOD and myself that these individuals will be treated in accord with the agreement that we struck in 2011. Chairman Levin. Is there a timetable for that effort to take the next step? Admiral Willard. There is. This particular offload is occurring. We have another one scheduled. There are a series of steps that we have planned, and I'd be happy to provide those to you if that would be helpful. Chairman Levin. That would be good, if you would do that for the record. [The information referred to follows:] The attached slide lists Joint Personnel Accounting Command (JPAC) Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) critical milestones. [GRAPHIC(S)] [NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT] Chairman Levin. Relative to the record, General, if you could for the record, give us some detail about the critical needs of TRANSCOM for cyber security. You made a comment in the press about TRANSCOM being the most cyber-attacked command in DOD, and if you could for the record, give us a list of your critical needs and whether those needs are being met, and whatever you can tell us in an unclassified way about attacks on your systems and progress that you might be making in defending those systems. It's a large question. It's an important one that we're grappling with in a major way here in Congress. So if you could give us kind of a whole review for the record, it would be helpful. General Fraser. Sir, thank you very much. I have stated that we are aggressively attacked. In fact, as we were looking at the numbers just this last year as it was wrapping up, from 2010 to 2011, we have seen an increase of about 30 percent of the number of attempts to get within our systems. As this committee also knows, though, the majority of our business is done on the unclassified net. We are working very aggressively on a number of different fronts, though, and it's not only within TRANSCOM, but also with our commercial partners. Because of 90 percent of that business being done on the unclassified net, which is where our commercial partners are, we need to partner with them to strengthen our defenses. We're working that through contracting actions and looking forward to continuing to partner with industry. Within TRANSCOM, we aggressively have a program whereby we train all of our individuals. Before they get in and on, they have to go through initial training. Then there's annual training. In fact, I just finished completing it. It takes over an hour and you're not going to get out of it, because once you're into it you're going to go through the whole thing. It's very thorough. So we have to work that aspect of it. So there's a training piece to this as we harden our people and make them aware of what's going on. There's also another piece to this with respect to our systems. So with a corporate services vision for the future, we have a number of systems out there that we're trying to bring into our net so that we can collapse the net and not have as broad a base so that the bad guys will be able to attack us. It'll be easier to defend if we're able to collapse the net, have less hardware out there, and actually be able to control that. The other thing is that we're very aggressively certifying our net defenders. Over 99 percent of our net defenders that we have within TRANSCOM now have professional certification. So this is helping us. So I go back to the 30 percent increase. We do not know of any known successful attack into our systems this last year. We are working with our people and with the hardware piece to our system. There's some business practices out there that we're also bringing in. We continue to partner with the Defense Information Systems Agency. We partner with U.S. Cyber Command and also with U.S. Strategic Command, as well as the National Security Agency, as we try to strengthen the net as best we can. As the distribution process owner, looking forward to what we call a secure enclave, too. As we partner with these other organizations, they're very encouraged by what they're seeing and the initiatives that we're taking. We're working it from a holistic standpoint and we are properly funded within TRANSCOM right now. Chairman Levin. If you could keep this committee informed, we would appreciate it. General Fraser. Yes, sir, I will. [The information referred to follows:] Sir, during my earlier testimony you had asked for a list of U.S. Transportation Command's (TRANSCOM) critical needs and whether those needs were being met, and attacks on TRANSCOM systems and progress that we are making in defending those systems. I previously addressed the latter aspect and mentioned that we noted a 30 percent increase overall from 2010 to 2011 in attempts to penetrate our network. I had also briefly addressed our approach in defending against those threats by training and certifying our cyber defenders and overall workforce. I also mentioned another important part of our cyber strategy is regular engagement with our commercial transportation partners to make them aware of the common threat we face, as well as common solutions. Regarding your request for a list of TRANSCOM's critical needs and whether those needs were being met, we are holding the line today, but are working to improve cyber defense capabilities to ensure we remain adequately postured for the future. First, we need to ensure our commercial partners have the tools and business practices necessary to protect TRANSCOM information residing in their environments. We are continuing to reduce this vulnerability in partnership with our commercial partners, our internal cyber defense staff, Federally Funded Research and Development Centers, and other partner agencies. Additionally, we need to enhance protection of our high value command and control systems, and also provide a secure development environment in which our cleared defense contractors can develop software supporting our deployment and distribution functions. We also need to improve the capability to distinguish adversarial actions from authorized users actions within systems and networks. If the adversaries are successful in gaining entry to our networks, we will need more effective mechanisms not only to detect them, but also to contain and limit their potential damage to our information, and rapidly rebuild any damage done to our networks or information so we can continue to execute our mission. A holistic and unified response to threats across the Department of Defense and the U.S. Government remains one of our greatest challenges, and is planned to be a major area of discussion at our upcoming cyber summit. Cyber security will remain a top priority for TRANSCOM in all of our engagements with partners, whether they are commercial companies, the U.S. Government, or DOD entities. Chairman Levin. This is really a major subject for all Members of Congress. Admiral, you were asked, I believe, by Senator Inhofe to give us for the record in writing, how some of the objections which were raised to UNCLOS some time ago have been met, and that is important for all of us. If you can do that, if possible before you leave, it would be something, another item on your agenda to complete, I hope that's not too burdensome, but it would be very helpful. Admiral Willard. I'll get right on it. Chairman Levin. Also, you made a comment, Admiral, that I just want to see if you might wish to clarify. In response to a question of Senator Inhofe, and this had to do with North Korea, you indicated that their strategy has been successful for two generations. I assume that what you meant by that was that their strategy is to stay in power, essentially, and that's basically what they care about, and that strategy has succeeded, but not in terms of any success for their country? Admiral Willard. That's exactly what I intended. This is a coercive strategy that has about five dimensions to it, all of which are bad news for the region and a challenge for our Nation. Chairman Levin. Bad news for their own people. Admiral Willard. Very bad news for their own people. Chairman Levin. We thank you both, and it's been a very, very useful hearing. Best of luck to you and your family, Admiral, again as you take on new responsibilities, new challenges, new wonders. Admiral Willard. Thank you, Senator Levin. Chairman Levin. General, thanks so much. General Fraser. Thank you, sir. Chairman Levin. This hearing will stand adjourned. [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:] Questions Submitted by Senator Carl Levin OPERATIONAL RESPONSIVE SPACE-1 SATELLITE 1. Senator Levin. Admiral Willard, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) recently brought on line a small tactically responsive satellite, Operational Responsive Space-1 (ORS-1), based on an urgent needs statement it issued. The satellite was assembled, launched, and brought on line in less than 32 months for cost below $225 million. My understanding is that CENTCOM has been very pleased with the capability of the satellite, which it directly controls with Air Force Space Command, to satisfy tactical reconnaissance needs in denied access regions. My understanding is that other combatant commands have tasked CENTCOM to use this satellite for urgent needs in their area of responsibility (AOR), offering for the first time the use of a small satellite outside the normal tasking sequence for space assets with direct control by the combatant command. Given the success, cost, and innovation of ORS-1, does U.S. Pacific Command (PACOM) believe that a similar system dedicated to PACOM would have a positive impact on reducing PACOM's intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) collection gaps? Admiral Willard. PACOM has been working closely with the Operationally Responsive Space (ORS) program on a satellite of our own. ORS-2 is in development and is scheduled to be launched in 2015. While it has a different payload than ORS-1, the capability will definitely have a positive impact on PACOM ISR collection gaps. CENTCOM has shared feedback with us on the utility and quality of ORS-1 collection. Based on CENTCOM's success with that system, we've had recent discussions with the ORS program on developing an ORS-1 system for PACOM as well. These systems will be particularly useful in enhancing PACOM's ability to collect in denied areas that we cannot reach with airborne systems. 2. Senator Levin. Admiral Willard, in addition, given the extremely large denied airspaces in PACOM's theater and widely dispersed land masses surrounded by large bodies of water, how would a tactical ISR satellite system dedicated to PACOM compare to a series of airborne ISR assets? Admiral Willard. A tactical satellite system dedicated to PACOM would be very useful, particularly with regards to collection in denied areas that airborne sensors cannot reach. However, there are limitations that make a straight comparison to airborne assets very difficult. Sensor quality, orbit, data throughput, and timeliness of collection can constrain our ability to answer many intelligence requirements. Airborne platforms often provide the persistence, flexibility, and fidelity that cannot be matched by tactical ISR satellite systems. Airborne ISR also provides a visible presence in the theater that creates a deterrent effect against potential adversaries and strengthens our commitment to our partners and allies. Used together, overhead and airborne systems complement each other extremely well and serve to mitigate our collection gaps. 3. Senator Levin. Admiral Willard, given the recent statements by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) Director, General Burgess, regarding the counterspace capabilities being developed in the PACOM theater, could a system of ORS-class satellites help in increasing the resiliency and responsiveness of PACOM's space capabilities? Admiral Willard. Yes. The future potential for rapid reconstitution of overhead systems in the face of adversary counterspace capabilities is very important to increasing the resiliency and responsiveness of PACOM's space capabilities. PACOM is a strong proponent of ORS-class satellites. 4. Senator Levin. Admiral Willard, could ORS-class satellites be beneficial in reconstituting a thin line, good enough to win, space layer to support PACOM operations in a campaign in which space was a contested domain? Admiral Willard. [Deleted.] ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Claire McCaskill CONTAINER MANAGEMENT 5. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, the Department of Defense (DOD) is spending nearly $720 million in late fees for leased shipping containers used for delivery of parts, supplies, and other items for overseas contingency operations. At times the late fees have even been more costly than if the containers were bought outright. I realize that using leased containers makes sense in a number of situations. However, wasting millions of dollars on late fees is inexcusable. What has U.S. Transportation Command (TRANSCOM) done to address this issue? General Fraser. As mentioned in your question, there are instances when keeping carrier-owned containers longer than the anticipated time period to meet operational requirements makes fiscal sense. Whether containers are required to enhance the force protection of our warfigthers or required for critical temporary storage capability in an austere environment, we keep a mindful eye on the fiscal impact of these decisions. TRANSCOM, in coordination with the Surface Deployment and Distribution Command (SDDC), is actively working several measures to mitigate container detention in the CENTCOM AOR. We are taking the following actions to reduce detention costs: making improvements in contract provisions in the forthcoming Universal Services Contract-7 (USC-7); transloading from individual carriers to U.S. Government-owned containers where practical; accomplishing container buyouts earlier when carrier-owned containers are required to meet mission objectives; expanding container management training and support for Mobile Container Assessment Teams; aggressively enhancing key leader engagement on adherence to established policies and procedures; and developing a single container management system capability. 6. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, how can the cost of late fees be reduced in the future? General Fraser. TRANSCOM, in coordination with SDDC and other Joint Deployment and Distribution Enterprise stakeholders, are taking several proactive steps to mitigate container detention. First, we have included improvements to container-related provisions in the USC-7 tentatively set for an effective date of 15 August 12. Based on analysis of detention for containers delivered to Afghanistan over the last 2 years, the additional 5 days of free time in USC-7 would have represented a 22 percent reduction in detention costs for an annual $12.6 million in cost avoidance. Second, we continue to implement successful lessons learned from our experiences supporting operations in Iraq, most notably increased usage of government-owned containers where practical. Third, we continue to work with theater leadership to enhance their cargo reception capability and infrastructure support to return carrier-owned containers within the prescribed timelines. Last, we continue to leverage technology to improve our intransit visibility of cargo and management of our critical distribution assets. 7. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, have steps been taken to renegotiate container contracts and the leases currently in place? General Fraser. Yes, TRANSCOM negotiated more favorable container detention and purchase terms for the USC-7. The contract is due to start this summer. The terms include lower purchase prices for the containers, more ``free-time'' before detention charges start to accrue, and allowing purchase of containers 30 days sooner. The enclosed fact sheet (in response to previous Senate questions on container costs) provides the estimated cost impact of the new terms. More importantly, in addition to the contract terms, TRANSCOM, through its component, the Military SDDC, is actively engaging the Military Departments and Government agencies to improve container management procedures and contractual terms and conditions that will reduce container detention costs. As DOD's Global Container Manager, SDDC has decreased container detention charges by instituting improved processes, such as standing up sites to transload from commercial to Government containers in theater. SDDC is also working to prioritize cargo in the carrier holding yards, improve procedures for receipt and release of containers, and enforce accuracy standards and completion of monthly inventories. Another significant effort is the development of a single container management system that will enable better container tracking and reporting to further decrease detention charges. Proposed Universal Services Contract (USC)-7 Container Detention and Purchase Fact Sheet The following information is provided in response to questions the Military Surface Deployment and Distribution Command (SDDC) received from Senator Tom Carper's and Senator Scott Brown's staffs during a December 14, 2011, teleconference. 1. Free time \1\ cost comparison between the current requirements in USC-6 and the proposed changes for USC-7, which are tentatively scheduled to take effect June 1, 2012: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- \1\ Container detention charges are imposed by shipping lines for containers kept beyond the assigned ``free time'' and not made available for pickup within that period. Under USC-6, the U.S. Government is currently authorized 15 days of free time before detention fees begin for containers delivered in Afghanistan. Under USC-7's proposed language, an additional 5 days would be added, for a total of 20 days free time before detention charges begin on containers in Afghanistan. Based on analysis of detention for containers delivered to Afghanistan over the last 2 years, the additional 5 days of free time would have represented a 22 percent reduction in detention costs for an annual $12.6 million in cost avoidance. 2. Containers are often used for storage, force protection, and other purposes, given the lack of infrastructure in theater. The Department can purchase containers to mitigate detention costs in one of two ways. Deliberate container purchase cost comparison using the current requirements in USC-6 and the proposed changes for USC-7: Currently with USC-6, in order to purchase a container, 90 days worth of detention costs must be paid. To purchase a container under the proposed USC-7, the number of days' worth of mandatory detention costs drops to 60 days. On a per container basis, purchase of a 40- foot dry container under USC-6 at the earliest possible time (Day 91) would cost $5,100 to purchase the container plus 90 days of mandatory detention ($35/day) $3,150, for a total of $8,250. Purchase of a 40-foot dry container under the proposed USC-7 at the earliest possible time (Day 61) would cost $4,590 to purchase the container plus 60 days of mandatory detention ($35/day) $2,100, for a total of $6,690. USC-7 proposed changes would have resulted in a cost avoidance of $1,560 per purchased container (18.9 percent reduction). These purchase cost reductions are due to lowering mandatory detention payment from 90 to 60 days, earlier commencement of credit on day 61 versus day 91, and the reduced container purchase prices negotiated by U.S. Transportation Command (TRANSCOM) under the proposed USC-7. Container purchase in the event containers are indefinitely retained by the U.S. Government (cumulative Credit Against Purchase (CAP)), using the current requirements in USC- 6 and the proposed changes for USC-7: Currently with USC-6, daily detention costs are capped at day 358 for a 40-foot dry container and day 1,090 for a 40-foot refrigerated container, at which time credit paid through detention costs equals the purchase price of the container and the container becomes the property of the DOD. For example, under USC-6 the CAP cost of a 40-foot dry container is $12,530 ($35/day 358). Under USC-7, daily detention costs are capped at day 350 for 40-foot dry containers and day 700 for 40-foot refrigerated containers, at which time credit paid through detention costs equals the purchase price of the container and the container becomes the property of the DOD.For example, under USC-7 the CAP cost of a 40-foot dry container is $12,250 ($35/day 350). This reduction in detention days would have resulted in a 9 percent reduction in detention costs for an annual $3.2 million in cost avoidance. 3. SDDC is also actively engaged in reducing commercial container detention costs through the increased use of U.S. Government-owned containers, where cost effective. As this business practice proved extremely successful in Iraq, we continue to look for opportunities to implement it in Afghanistan, when appropriate. PAKISTAN GROUND LINES OF COMMUNICATION 8. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, TRANSCOM and our interagency partners have received permission from governments of some European, Central Asian, and Baltic countries to start retrograding materials from Afghanistan through the Northern Distribution Network (NDN). As we begin the drawdown of troops in Afghanistan in the next few years, the retrograde of materials and equipment from Afghanistan will increasingly become more important. The Pakistan Ground Lines of Communication (PAK GLOC) provides logistical support through the movement of cargo to Afghanistan. When open, the PAK GLOC remains the quickest and most cost-effective route. If the PAK GLOC is not open for retrograde operations, what additional cost will the United States incur in order to move equipment out of Afghanistan? General Fraser. The financial impact of the PAK GLOC closure continues to be analyzed as TRANSCOM gains more fidelity on the factors related to costing. At this time it is difficult to determine with any degree of confidence what that additional cost will be. TRANSCOM continues to explore and develop multiple retrograde options in order to meet warfighter operational requirements in the most cost effective manner. 9. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, has TRANSCOM conducted an analysis of what will be necessary to ensure the PAK GLOC is open? General Fraser. No. TRANSCOM does not control the conditions on the ground that would be necessary to conduct such an analysis on the PAK GLOC. However, CENTCOM states Pakistan leadership has made it clear to us that reopening the PAK GLOC, as well as all other issues related to Pakistan's relationship with the United States, must go through a process which begins with recommendations produced by their parliament. The administration plans to send a negotiating team to Pakistan to discuss the steps required to reopen the PAK GLOC, consistent with parliament's recommendations and U.S. laws and interests. NORTHERN DISTRIBUTION NETWORK 10. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, the NDN provides an additional route for cargo to Afghanistan. Over the past year, around 40 percent of all cargo in support of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) was moved through the NDN's multiple truck, water, rail, and air routes in an expanding distribution network. TRANSCOM continues to work with the interagency and governments of the NDN countries to expand NDN routes. However, many of the NDN countries do not want materials from Afghanistan to retrograde back through their countries. If the NDN is not open or partially open for retrograde operations, how will this affect the retrograding of materials and equipment from Afghanistan? General Fraser. TRANSCOM currently has two-way permissions on all our NDN routes for commercial-type items. Additionally, one of the NDN routes (the Russian route) is authorized to move wheeled armored vehicles. At this time, TRANSCOM is executing multiple proofs of principle to exercise these permissions. The lessons learned will be used to determine the best way to employ each route in the overall retrograde operation. Any additional permissions from countries supporting the NDN would further enhance retrograde flexibility, capacity, and redundancy with potential cost savings. 11. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, what additional costs will the United States incur in order to move equipment out of Afghanistan if the NDN route is closed? General Fraser. Assuming the PAK GLOC remains closed and the NDN closes, the cost to move all equipment out of Afghanistan would be significantly higher. The only option remaining would be airlift equipment and supplies direct air back to the States or to multi-modal locations. While this option is feasible it will not meet the current departure timelines. TRANSCOM has been working Proof of Principles to test using the NDNfor limited cargo coming out of Afghanistan, but this is still in the very early stages and the costs associated with cargo leaving Afghanistan has not been determined. STRATEGIC AIRLIFT 12. Senator McCaskill. General Fraser, our defense strategy relies on rapid global reach and rapid global response to deter aggression and deliver worldwide capability. An important component of maintaining U.S. military dominance is maintaining the airlift and air-refueling capability required for rapid delivery of our forces and equipment over long distances. C-17s will continue to be the workhorse for strategic airlift. Even though TRANSCOM is currently funding purchases, upgrade programs, and fleet rotation, I still have concerns that the stress of supporting two wars over the past decades will cause our current C-17 fleet to age faster than expected. What is being done to ensure that we do not have any gaps in our strategic airlift capabilities as the current C-17 fleet begins to age? General Fraser. The C-17 fleet averages more than the planned 1,000 actual flight hours per year, but the life-limiting effects felt by the fleet are within limits. The C-17 fleet will meet its service life of 30 years, and based on historic usage severity, should be available much longer. Targeted fleet service life extension programs (SLEP) are being utilized to refresh specific aging aircraft drivers (wing upper cover, landing gear) as appropriate to enable continued safe/reliable/ economic C-17 operations. A requirement for an overall aircraft SLEP has not been established. ______ Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Begich ORGANIZATIONAL REVIEW OF ALASKAN COMMAND 13. Senator Begich. Admiral Willard, I understand at your direction PACOM has been conducting an organizational review of Alaskan Command. Although I am cognizant the renewed focus on the Asia-Pacific region is driving a need to shift PACOM resources, I firmly believe Alaskan Command is and will remain an integral component of enabling PACOM to carry out its mission. As you may know, Alaskan Command was founded due to a lack of unity of forces in Alaska during World War II. With more than 22,000 Active Duty personnel in Alaska, Alaskan Command provides PACOM mission assurance in the State, ensures a ready force, and expedites the deployment of forces in support of contingencies. I am aware that after the creation of U.S. Northern Command (NORTHCOM), some of the missions in Alaska are now under that combatant command, and organizational challenges have surfaced. Resolution of these organizational challenges will require coordination between PACOM and NORTHCOM. Could you please describe the scope of the PACOM organizational review of Alaskan Command? Admiral Willard. In accordance with the 2010 Secretary of Defense efficiencies tasking, PACOM performed a review of all PACOM missions and associated manpower requirements to identify potential savings and internal efficiencies. The scope of the Alaskan Command study included a determination of requirements for manpower support to gain a better understanding of the roles, missions, and responsibilities that impact Alaskan Command. The scope of the study also included mission analysis and functional capabilities analysis as related to wartime requirements and a review of level of support provided to PACOM missions assigned to Alaskan Command. To date, no final decision has been made. PACOM will ensure that any course of action is fully coordinated with all stakeholders prior to a final decision being reached. 14. Senator Begich. Admiral Willard, what is the desired outcome? Admiral Willard. PACOM began looking at Alaskan Command as part of the Secretary of Defense Efficiency Review in late 2010. During a detailed examination of Alaskan Command, it was determined that the operations performed for PACOM in Alaska do not require a permanent Joint Headquarters and the potential operations performed for NORTHCOM can be handled by Joint Task Force-Alaska. Based on joint doctrine, there is no reason to maintain a permanent subordinate unified command in Alaska. Subsequently, Operation Tomodachi validated an identified need to operationalize U.S. Forces-Japan (USFJ) to increase the capacity/capability of USFJ as an operational headquarters to support the defense of Japan from increasing threats. This need coupled with the direction in the recently released ``Sustaining U.S. Global Leadership: Priorities for 21st Century Defense,'' PACOM intends to shift some of its joint staff positions to strengthen relationships with Asian allies and key partners specifically Japan through a more robust USFJ capability. This relationship is critical to the future stability and growth in the Asia-Pacific region. Shifting these joint staff positions from Alaskan Command to other, more critical priorities is one step in strengthening these relationships in a period of constrained resources. PACOM does not intend to move any units, exercises, or activities out of Alaska, as these are critical to maintaining forces that are able to respond in a crisis in Alaska or throughout the Asia Pacific. 15. Senator Begich. Admiral Willard, would you please describe coordination with NORTHCOM to reach an organizational solution mutually beneficial to both combatant commands? Admiral Willard. In November 2011, I directed the PACOM staff to develop a way ahead for achieving the desired end-state of shifting joint staff billets and civilian positions from Alaskan Command to higher priorities in the theater. The PACOM staff formed a planning team which consisted of representatives from the staff directorates, the Service components (Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps), Alaskan Command, and NORTHCOM. The purpose of the planning team was to examine the situation and offer recommendations based on competing priorities. In February 2012, the planning team offered their recommendation to retain Alaskan Command as a Subordinate Unified Command to PACOM and shift 45-50 joint staff billets and civilian positions to higher priorities with critical allies. Both the Commander of Alaskan Command and the Chief of Staff for NORTHCOM offered dissenting recommendations to transfer Alaskan Command and the majority of its 65 joint staff billets and civilian positions from PACOM to NORTHCOM. I directed my staff to examine the question of whether Alaskan Command still fits the criteria of a Subordinate Unified Command and deferred making a final decision. ALASKAN COMMAND MANPOWER SUMMARIES 16. Senator Begich. Admiral Willard, would you please provide manpower summaries (military, contractor, and civilian billets) for Alaskan Command for fiscal year 2012, and projected for fiscal years 2013 through 2017? Admiral Willard. The manpower authorizations for fiscal year 2012 are as follows: Military - 42 (Joint Table Distribution (JTD) shows 43, one position identified as billpayer for DOS) Civilian - 23 Total - 65 Fiscal year 2013 through 2017 may or may not be the same as fiscal year 2012, depending on the outcome of PACOM's Alaskan Command review. NORTHERN EDGE FUNDING LEVELS 17. Senator Begich. Admiral Willard, Northern Edge is a critical exercise to prepare forces for contingencies in the PACOM AOR. Would you please provide funding levels for the exercise for fiscal year 2012 and projected for fiscal years 2013 through 2017? Admiral Willard. [Deleted.] ______ Questions Submitted by Senator John McCain MILITARY QUALITY-OF-LIFE CONCERNS 18. Senator McCain. Admiral Willard, please identify the top quality-of-life concerns for military families assigned within PACOM. Admiral Willard. America's All-Volunteer Force is our greatest strategic asset and we commit our full support for the 300,000 PACOM servicemembers and their families. We know quality-of-life for Active Duty soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and their dependents continues to be a key enabler and retention factor for these Americans serving in the PACOM AOR. We must ensure that the needs of our servicemembers and their families continue to be met, even during this time of fiscal constraint. We must sustain critical quality of life programs and make improvements where needed in the quality-of-life of assigned personnel. Current key focus areas include: Military Pay and Compensation With the numerous challenges that come with military life, pay and financial difficulties should not be added stressors. We need to ensure that our servicemembers and their families are provided with a comfortable life which includes fair pay and compensation. The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012 provides an increase of 1.6 percent for military basic pay. This raise is equal to the Employment Cost Index as of 30 September 2010, as prescribed by law, and will keep military pay increases in line with those in the private sector. In addition, the NDAA funds bonuses and other incentives to meet recruiting and retention quality and quantity goals-- especially for our most critical skills and experience levels. Care for Wounded, Ill, and Injured Military Members We continue our intense focus on the care of our wounded, ill, and injured military members--those who sacrificed so much in defense of our Nation. We are working to achieve the highest level of care and management to ensure quality care and as smooth a transition back to normalcy as medically possible. Recent key initiatives include: Achieving a seamless transition to veteran status for members leaving the military and superlative cooperation between DOD and the Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA). Ensuring a high standard for facilities caring for wounded warriors, i.e., first rate hospitals and trained staff. Enhancing case management of individuals needing care and transition to civilian life. Establishing an Integrated Disability Evaluation System--to create a simpler, faster, more consistent process for determining which members may continue their military service and helping them become as independent and self- supporting as possible. Working with the DVA to create Virtual Lifetime Electronic Records--critical to improve veteran care and services. Continuing investments to modernize the Electronic Health Record--to improve provider satisfaction, system speed, reliability, and to record all healthcare encounters from the battlefield through each phase of treatment. The NDAA for Fiscal Year 2012 provides $2.3 billion for enduring wounded, ill, and injured military member programs. Of this amount, $415 million provides for the continued support of cutting edge wounded, ill, and injured medical research. This research is highly focused on psychological health/post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and traumatic brain injuries (TBI), but also includes prosthetics, vision loss, hearing loss, and other conditions directly relevant to the injuries our soldiers are currently receiving on the battlefield. Prevention of Sexual Assault Sexual assault is criminal conduct punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice and will not be tolerated. Our commitment is zero tolerance of sexual assault or related behaviors within the PACOM AOR. We will not allow sexual assault to injure our personnel, our friends, our families, destroy our professional values, or compromise readiness. Requirements included in the recently released DOD instruction 6495.02, Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Program Procedures, are: Policies and procedures for all commanders, at all levels, to take action to prevent sexual assault, protect and support victims, hold offenders accountable, and to ensure a safe and healthy environment. All uniformed members, spouses, civilians, and contractors are afforded victim services. Victim advocates will be well-trained and credentialed. Funding will be provided for training investigators and lawyers. All commanding officers and senior enlisted leaders will be fully trained, and committed to eradicating sexual assault. Ensure the length of time sexual assault records are kept is standardized for all Services. Victims filing unrestricted cases will now have the option to request an expedited transfer from their unit or installation. Suicide Prevention The suicide rate among our servicemembers and their families is at a record high. We have an obligation and responsibility to take care of the men and women who volunteer to sacrifice for our country. Our military servicemembers and their families are resilient and strong, but we want them to know that they should not needlessly suffer through depression and anxiety. Suicide prevention is a leadership responsibility from the most senior leaders down to front-line supervisors. Marine Corps (Marine Forces Pacific (MARFORPAC)): Improving the Family Readiness in the Marine Corps has been accomplished by implementing Behavioral Health programs to protect and strengthen the health and well-being of Marines and their families. Behavior Health programs consist of Combat and Operational Stress Control, Suicide Prevention, Family Advocacy, Sexual Assault Response and Prevention, and Substance Abuse Prevention. Spouse Employment Maintaining a career in the face of frequent moves is an issue that has plagued military spouses for years. Job availability and employer willingness to hire transient spouses is always a concern. With one in three working spouses holding jobs that require licenses or certifications, transferability of professional credentials from one State to another complicates the employment issue. In many overseas locations, availability of these professional jobs can be limited, resulting in unemployment or under- employment. Many young spouses don't have the requisite background for the civil service jobs offered and the status of forces agreements or other foreign assignment areas prevent military exchanges and commissaries from opening all positions to U.S. candidates. Education K-12 Education (Hawaii): Data is being collected at PACOM to interpret if there is a recruiting or retention issue for military families with school-aged children stationed in Hawaii. K-12 Education (DODEA): The Department of Defense Education Activity (DODEA) Pacific oversees 49 schools in 3 countries and 1 Territory, with a population of 23,500 students. DODEA is currently unable to support varied educational options desired by families, e.g., providing universal preschool within all DOD overseas schools and home school families' access to the DODEA Virtual School. Child Care and Youth Programs Sufficient, reliable, yet affordable child care is a key readiness issue for servicemembers and their families. Our highest priority is ensuring 100 percent availability of child care, especially in overseas locations. Additional unmet child care needs include access to care during nontraditional hours to accommodate servicemembers' work schedules, limited availability of child care slots for lower priority families requiring care (i.e., not Single Parent and Dual Military), and drop-in and respite care for families with a deployed servicemember. Army (U.S. Army Pacific): Army Child Development Centers (CDCs) are available on post with a full day, part day, and hourly care for children. The Youth Services are designed specifically for middle school youth and teens and ensures services such as sports, fitness and health, life skills, leadership opportunities, academic, and intervention support and services are available. Transportation to and from school to the center is available in various locations. The Army Family Child Care (FCC) home is another child care choice for military family members, DOD civilians, and DOD contractors in which family members work as independent contractors in individual housing units located on a military installation. Special services may include 24-hour and long-term care during mobilization and training exercises, evening and weekend care, and care for special needs children and mildly ill children. Parents can expect to receive the same quality of care in an Army FCC home as in an Army CDC or School-Age Program. FCC providers receive the same training and support as facility-based staff. An additional program available is the Armed Services YMCA (ASYMCA), which provides military families, Active Duty personnel, the National Guard, and military reservists with access to youth development, family strengthening, and health and well-being programs. The Boys and Girls Clubs of America inspires young people to become responsible citizens. The Clubs create a safe place for kids to grow, provide mentoring by a professionally-trained staff and caring volunteers, nurture character development and life-enhancing skills, and provide hope and opportunity. Housing Housing availability and affordability is a recurring readiness issue for servicemembers and their families. Waiting lists for base housing can vary from immediate occupancy to waits exceeding 24 months, depending on rank, installation, and required housing unit size. Overseas Housing Allowance (OHA) or Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) is paid to servicemembers stationed in overseas locations (OHA) or in Hawaii and Alaska (BAH) and is designed to provide equitable housing compensation when government quarters are not provided. However, servicemembers still report significant out-of-pocket expenses while living off- base when on-base housing is not available. Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam (JBPH-H): Public-Private Venture (PPV) housing has improved the quality of our homes for our servicemembers over the last few years. There is high demand for PPV homes as their quality exceeds most of what is available in the community. PPV only satisfies a portion of our housing requirement, as we are expected to rely on the local community. In some instances, we are not keeping up with the demand for housing for several pay grades, specifically Senior Enlisted and Field Grade Officers who are experiencing wait list times of 6 to 12 months. Navy (Navy Region Hawaii (NRH)): PPV housing has improved the quality of our homes for our servicemembers over the last few years. There is high demand for PPV homes as their quality exceeds most of what is available in the community. PPV only satisfies a portion of our housing requirement (4,451 homes), as we are expected to rely on the local community. NRH continues to meet the requirements for housing. However, we are not keeping up with the demand for housing for several pay grades, specifically Senior Enlisted and Field Grade Officers who are experiencing wait list times of 6 to 12 months. Army (U.S. Army Pacific): Availability of housing for servicemembers is another top quality of life concern. Servicemembers pay several hundred dollars more a month in rent living in the same quality home off-post when on-post housing is not available upon their arrival. Additionally, when on-post housing is subsequently available, some to all costs associated to the move is the responsibility of the servicemember, resulting in additional out-of-pocket costs affecting many of our new military families and creating financial hardship. 19. Senator McCain. Admiral Willard, what progress has been made in those areas, especially spouse employment opportunities, child care, and education programs and facilities for DOD dependent school-aged children? Admiral Willard. Spouse Employment Navy (NRH): The Navy manages the Joint Employment Management System (JEMS), an online job bank dedicated to military spouses, dependents, and retirees of all services. JEMS was first established in September 1985 to serve as a single point of contact for the business community to offer employment opportunities to job seekers from the military community. JEMS averages 2,000 job openings at any given time. In fiscal year 2011, over 4,800 spouses, dependents, and retirees registered in JEMS and were seeking employment. JEMS holds one job fair per year at JBPH-H, averaging over 800 attendees and 100 companies. JEMS also holds one job fair at Marine Corps Base Hawaii averaging just over 300 attendees with 40 companies. Navy (Navy Region Singapore): For those spouses who want to work outside the home, there are jobs available locally and on base primarily with Morale, Welfare, and Recreation (MWR), the Navy Exchange (NEX), and Navy Federal Credit Union. Spouses have also found employment at the American Embassy and Singapore American School. All civil service jobs are open for overseas spouses and dependents as local. The Family Services Office has provided assistance to many spouses seeking employment. Navy (Navy Region Marianas): Spouses who meet the minimum qualifications are always given first priority when it comes to NAF employment. Navy (Navy Region Japan): To support successful job searching, installation Fleet and Family Service Centers (FFSC) provide Job Search Strategies and Federal Employment and Resume Writing classes on a regular basis. On average, more than 3,000 spouses participate in these one-on-one and group seminar programs annually. To further enhance spouse employment opportunity, Navy Region Japan worked with the Navy Civilian Human Resource chain of command to permit foreign spouses of uniformed military personnel to receive special appointment hiring authority to non- sensitive civil service positions. Air Force (Pacific Air Forces (PACAF)): Priority Placement is approved by DOD for employment of spouses already employed by the U.S. Government prior to arrival at overseas bases. The DOD Military Spouse Employment Partnership (MSEP) website and job fair support programs are now accessible to all PACAF bases. Army (U.S. Army Pacific): MSEP has helped military spouses access career resources and connects with corporations who are ready to help spouses explore career options for their mobile lifestyles. MSEP has partnered with numerous companies such as H&R Block, Army Career and Alumni Program, Army Air Force Exchange Service, Wal-Mart, Verizon, Dell, et cetera, to smaller community-based, local companies together working to aid military spouses in finding and identifying portable jobs, as well as reducing the wage gap between military and civilian spouses. In addition, MSEP has increased the U.S. partnerships by collaborating with the Civilian Personnel Advisory Center (CPAC) to assist spouses of military members stationed in South Korea find local positions, gain awareness/education on home based business options, and awareness of local job fairs. Child Care and Youth Programs Marine Corps (Marine Forces Pacific): To alleviate the childcare challenge, the Marine Corps established numerous CDCs over the past several years and have more planned. Adequate funding will ensure CDC Military Construction (MILCON) will take place as planned. JBPH-H: JBPH-H has made significant progress in the area of child and youth programs. CDCs: Peltier CDC reopened on 08 Mar 2012. The Peltier CDC renovation and expansion enabled the consolidation of children from two older CDCs and netted 16 additional spaces bringing the net total to 130. Three additional CDCs are scheduled to open across JBPH-H. The Wahiawa CDC (replaces older CDC at Wahiawa) is scheduled to open on 26 April 2012, increasing capacity from 46 to 70 spaces. The new Center Drive CDC opens the end of May this year with a capacity of 304 spaces. The new Ford Island CDC is scheduled to open mid-July this year with a capacity of 304 spaces. When all 4 are opened, JBPH-H will have a total of 9 CDCs operating on Oahu with a total capacity of 1,306, including one 24/7 CDC accommodating 10 children day and night. This unit is designated for use by swing shift personnel and has the capacity to expand if need is identified. Anticipate reducing the overall wait list by at least 50 percent. There are no additional projects to increase CDC capacity on Oahu. Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF) continues to be able to accommodate all CDC requirements in its 34 space CDC. The new CDCs will result in 230 new jobs. School Age Care: JBPH-H has two School Age Care centers that accommodate 290 children. The PMRF on Kauai has seven children enrolled in their School Age Care program. Neither location has a waiting list. Navy (Navy Region Singapore): There is no Child and Youth Program in the region to assist families with young children. Residents in Family housing are allowed to hire foreign domestic workers or live-in-aides. This currently alleviates the need for a CDC. For parents who would rather have their children supervised at a facility, they can choose to pay for care on the economy. Many of these facilities are within walking distance from the base. For children 5 years and under, the region offer a ``Little Tykes'' program that is provided 3 days a week. The program offers interactive socialization, crafts, and story hours. Navy Region Singapore currently does not have the population to justify a CDC. Funding is another obstacle if the population increases. Navy (Navy Region Marianas): Child care is available for youth of all ages as well as before and after school care, Child Development Homes, youth sports, and youth leisure/recreation classes on both bases. Army (U.S. Army Pacific): Army CDCs are available on post with a full day, part day, and hourly care for children. The Youth Services are designed specifically for middle school youth and teens and ensure services such as sports, fitness and health, life skills, leadership opportunities, academic and intervention support and services are available. Transportation to and from school to the center is available in various locations. The Army Family Child Care (FCC) home is another child care choice for military family members, DOD civilians, and DOD contractors in which family members work as independent contractors in individual housing units located on a military installation. Special services may include 24- hour and long-term care during mobilization and training exercises, evening and weekend care, and care for special needs children and mildly ill children. Parents can expect to receive the same quality of care in an Army FCC home as in an Army CDC or School-Age Program. FCC providers receive the same training and support as facility-based staff. An additional program available is the ASYMCA, which provides military families, Active Duty personnel, the National Guard, and military reservists with access to youth development, family strengthening, and health and well-being programs. The Boys and Girls Clubs of America inspires young people to become responsible citizens. The Clubs create a safe place for kids to grow, provide mentoring by a professionally-trained staff and caring volunteers, nurture character development and life-enhancing skills, and provide hope and opportunity. Education PACOM's Education Branch is dedicated to promoting quality education for all military students in the Pacific. PACOM's goal is to work in conjunction with the civilian education community to offer a comprehensive array of high quality educational opportunities that allow parents to select the option that matches the needs of each child to include public, public charter, private, religious, DOD, and home schools or on-line/virtual schools. PACOM's goal is to ensure families receive support with their school choice. For parents with certain school issues that cannot be resolved by other means, the Interstate Compact for Educational Opportunities for Military Children may enlist their military representative. PACOM has designated representatives for many educational related boards and committees within the PACOM theater and specifically, Hawaii. PACOM and all combatant commands are represented on the DODEA Dependents Education Council--a forum for the Services to elevate the matters relating to facilities, logistics, and administrative support provided to DODschools. PACOM is also represented on the Pacific Theater Education Council which identifies educational concerns of parents, students, military leaders, and educators within the PACOM AOR. PACOM has a seat on the Advisory Council on Dependents Education which recommends programs and practices, ensuring a quality education system to the Secretary of Defense and the DODEA Director. In 2012, the DODEA started virtual courses for students in Hawaii with a vision to prepare students to live, learn, work, and serve the public good in a digital, global society through engaging, synchronous and asynchronous instruction. DODEA enacted the Bullying Awareness and Prevention Program, a new mathematics curriculum for all grades to include more math unit coursework for graduation, a new attendance policy providing specific guidance on attendance and absences, identifies support services for students at risk for not fulfilling the grade or course requirements, and established the use of Gradespeed which is a full-featured web-based grade book for both parents and teachers. DODEA also utilizes Facebook as a means to connect with administrators, teachers, parents, and students. In Hawaii, the Joint Venture Education Forum is a partnership that has existed since 1999 between the military community, business community, and Hawaii Department of Education. It addresses education concerns and provides support for children of military families stationed in Hawaii. It also promotes good will between the military and public schools. To continue supporting military families with school age children in Hawaii, PACOM partnered with Johns Hopkins University to conduct a 3-year longitudinal study to understand family members' preconceptions prior to arrival in Hawaii and how attitudes and beliefs are impacted and change during their tour of duty. At the conclusion of the study, information will be provided to PACOM, the Services, and civic agencies to improve policy, programming, and services for children and youth. Continuous progress was made to Hawaii schools in 2011 when the National Math and Science Initiative began which brought advanced placement (AP) courses in math, science, and English in schools serving a high concentration of students from military families. Courses are designed to increase students' potential for success in college. Schools profit from training for their APteachers and assistance with building their AP programs. Navy (Navy Region Hawaii): Navy in Hawaii will continue to move toward strengthening relationships with our military impacted schools, improving our partnership with our educators and our students. Navy children attend 59 public schools in Hawaii. We currently have 35 active school partnerships with military impacted schools where Navy children are predominate and are working on establishing partnerships at 5 schools with Navy children that do not currently have a partnership. A partnership has been established for all schools expressing interest. Our School Liaisons foster relationships between parents, educators, and the military families. They also facilitate permanent change of station transitions. The Commander Navy Region Hawaii (CNRH) meets frequently with local education leaders to discuss ways the Navy can assist with educational improvements. CNRH will continue our robust school partnership program. K-12 Education will remain a key focus of the Navy in Hawaii. Navy (Navy Region Marianas): Three issues were prepared by Commander Navy Region Japan (CNRJ) at the 2011 PACOM area Dependents Education Council (DEC) meeting. Specifically: Need for additional gifted student services. An evaluation of school offerings in Japan is being conducted by DODEA and will provide the DEC with an update at its next meeting. Universal Pre-K. The DOD Education Review has examined the current state of education for military children and, based on this analysis, has provided strategies for improving the quality of DOD's early childhood programs. When the results of the study are released, they will be reviewed and discussed in order to plan the next steps for improving access to early childhood education for military associated children. The effect of DODEA staffing template use at small DODEA schools. DODEA is currently examining program offerings and instructional modalities, based upon student needs and interests and fiscal guidance. The review is ongoing and DEC will be given periodic updates. Marine Corps (Marine Forces Pacific (MARFORPAC)): DODEA has an extensive MILCON program planned through fiscal year 2017 that will fund renovating or replacing DODEA schools in the MARFORPAC AOR; however, they are not scheduled to begin before fiscal year 2013. In addition to DODEA schools, the Office of Economic Adjustment has reviewed and ranked over 150 public schools located on military installations by facility quality and capacity issues. To date (Mar 2012), the funding to improve schools ranked in the MARFORPAC AOR has not been distributed. Air Force (Pacific Air Forces): Approximately $493 million funded for new school construction on Air Force installations in the PACOM AOR between fiscal years 2012-2016. Army (U.S. Army Pacific): Army families in Hawaii benefit from a strong School Support Program which is tasked with coordinating and assisting Army school-age youth with educational opportunities and assistance, and providing them the information necessary to achieve success. Tutorial programs offered to Army students include: Online tutoring/homework help through the ``Study Strong'' program (via the Tutor.com website) available in school-age and middle school/teen programs, and at home 24-hours-a- day, 7-days-a-week. March2Success, an Army-sponsored site providing free educational content to help students improve knowledge and test scores. Army Family Covenant-authorized buses and vans provide transportation to after-school care and programs. School Liaison Officers serve as installation subject matter experts for youth education and school transition issues, championing and working toward achievement of a ``level playing field'' for Army youth transitioning among installations and school systems. 20. Senator McCain. Admiral Willard, how many command-sponsored dependents reside within PACOM, by Service, including official civilians? Admiral Willard. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- South Other Hawaii Guam Japan Korea Locations Total ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Army.......................................... 30,823 120 2,029 6,542 435 39,949 Navy.......................................... 15,456 2,445 11,979 224 546 30,650 Air Force..................................... 7,460 3,289 13,168 1,175 314 25,406 Marine Corps.................................. 6,722 10 12,076 125 24 18,957 Civilian...................................... * 290 5,179 4,568 6 10,043 ---------- 125,005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * No data collected for DOD Civilian Dependents inside the United States. Note: Japan numbers provided by U.S. Forces Japan. Korea numbers provided by U.S. Forces Korea. Guam numbers provided by Joint Region Marianas. All other data provided by Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC). 21. Senator McCain. Admiral Willard, what do you see as the greatest challenges to the military command structure regarding assignment of families within PACOM? Admiral Willard. Facilities (Housing) Hawaii. Housing has improved significantly. Military Housing has transformed through a privatization initiative. The housing is now leased to a private managing entity. The company is responsible for maintenance and renovation. They have since built hundreds of new houses within Mainland housing standards. Family and Unaccompanied Housing are expected to meet the OSD goal for housing by the end of fiscal year 2012 and fiscal year 2017 respectively (90 percent rated Q1/Q2). AOR. Construction and renovation of inadequate buildings is ongoing in order to meet OSD housing goals. Family and Unaccompanied Housing are expected to meet the OSD goal for housing by the end of fiscal year 2012 and fiscal year 2017 respectively (90 percent rated Q1/Q2). The current ratings are as follows: Navy Japan, Guam, and Korea: 75 percent of Family Housing is rated Q1/Q2. Guam: 40 percent of Unaccompanied Housing is rated Q1/Q2. Japan and Korea: 47 percent of Unaccompanied Housing is rated Q1/Q2. Marines Iwakuni: 98 percent of Family Housing is rated Q1/Q2. Camp Butler, Iwakuni, and Korea: 60 percent of Unaccompanied Housing is rated Q1/ Q2.