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DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON
MILITARY OPERATIONS
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COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED TWELFTH CONGRESS
SECOND SESSION
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HEARING HELD
JULY 18, 2012
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HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
One Hundred Twelfth Congress
HOWARD P. ``BUCK'' McKEON, California, Chairman
ROSCOE G. BARTLETT, Maryland ADAM SMITH, Washington
MAC THORNBERRY, Texas SILVESTRE REYES, Texas
WALTER B. JONES, North Carolina LORETTA SANCHEZ, California
W. TODD AKIN, Missouri MIKE McINTYRE, North Carolina
J. RANDY FORBES, Virginia ROBERT A. BRADY, Pennsylvania
JEFF MILLER, Florida ROBERT ANDREWS, New Jersey
JOE WILSON, South Carolina SUSAN A. DAVIS, California
FRANK A. LoBIONDO, New Jersey JAMES R. LANGEVIN, Rhode Island
MICHAEL TURNER, Ohio RICK LARSEN, Washington
JOHN KLINE, Minnesota JIM COOPER, Tennessee
MIKE ROGERS, Alabama MADELEINE Z. BORDALLO, Guam
TRENT FRANKS, Arizona JOE COURTNEY, Connecticut
BILL SHUSTER, Pennsylvania DAVE LOEBSACK, Iowa
K. MICHAEL CONAWAY, Texas NIKI TSONGAS, Massachusetts
DOUG LAMBORN, Colorado CHELLIE PINGREE, Maine
ROB WITTMAN, Virginia LARRY KISSELL, North Carolina
DUNCAN HUNTER, California MARTIN HEINRICH, New Mexico
JOHN C. FLEMING, M.D., Louisiana BILL OWENS, New York
MIKE COFFMAN, Colorado JOHN R. GARAMENDI, California
TOM ROONEY, Florida MARK S. CRITZ, Pennsylvania
TODD RUSSELL PLATTS, Pennsylvania TIM RYAN, Ohio
SCOTT RIGELL, Virginia HANK JOHNSON, Georgia
CHRIS GIBSON, New York BETTY SUTTON, Ohio
VICKY HARTZLER, Missouri COLLEEN HANABUSA, Hawaii
JOE HECK, Nevada KATHLEEN C. HOCHUL, New York
BOBBY SCHILLING, Illinois JACKIE SPEIER, California
JON RUNYAN, New Jersey RON BARBER, Arizona
AUSTIN SCOTT, Georgia
TIM GRIFFIN, Arkansas
STEVEN PALAZZO, Mississippi
ALLEN B. WEST, Florida
MARTHA ROBY, Alabama
MO BROOKS, Alabama
TODD YOUNG, Indiana
Robert L. Simmons II, Staff Director
Catherine McElroy, Counsel
Paul Lewis, Counsel
Michael Casey, Professional Staff Member
Lauren Hauhn, Research Assistant
C O N T E N T S
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CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF HEARINGS
2012
Page
Hearing:
Wednesday, July 18, 2012, Disclosures of National Security
Information and Impact on Military Operations.................. 1
Appendix:
Wednesday, July 18, 2012......................................... 9
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WEDNESDAY, JULY 18, 2012
DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON MILITARY
OPERATIONS
STATEMENTS PRESENTED BY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
McKeon, Hon. Howard P. ``Buck,'' a Representative from
California, Chairman, Committee on Armed Services.............. 1
APPENDIX
Documents Submitted for the Record:
Roll Call #35, Motion to Close Full Committee Hearing on
Disclosures of National Security Information and Impact on
Military Operations........................................ 13
DISCLOSURES OF NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION AND IMPACT ON MILITARY
OPERATIONS
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House of Representatives,
Committee on Armed Services,
Washington, DC, Wednesday, July 18, 2012.
The committee met, pursuant to call, at 10:12 a.m., in room
2118, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Howard P. ``Buck''
McKeon (chairman of the committee) presiding.
OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HOWARD P. ``BUCK'' MCKEON, A
REPRESENTATIVE FROM CALIFORNIA, CHAIRMAN, COMMITTEE ON ARMED
SERVICES
The Chairman. The hearing will come to order. Good morning.
The House Armed Services Committee [HASC] meets to receive
testimony on disclosures of national security information and
impact on military operations. The committee will receive
testimony and discuss matters that if disclosed in a public
hearing would endanger national security and therefore requires
the hearing to be closed to the public.
Clause 2(g)(2) of House Rule XI and Committee Rule 9(a)
requires the committee to vote by record vote in open session
with a majority present to close the hearing to the public. We
have scheduled this vote on the disclosure of national security
information hearing today. We will not conduct opening
statements for this hearing today. Immediately after the vote
to close, we will recess this hearing and proceed with the
sequestration hearing. As previously announced, the committee
will resume the hearing on disclosure of national security
information in closed session for Members only at 10 a.m. on
Thursday with a swept hearing room.
Finally, let me remind Members that we will follow the
normal before and after gavel attendance list in determining
the order for questioning witnesses. This means that when we
reconvene this hearing in closed session on Thursday, we will
follow the Member order established today at the gavel.
The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Texas, Mr.
Thornberry, vice chair of the HASC, for the purpose of a
motion.
Mr. Thornberry. Mr. Chairman, pursuant to House Rule XI
clause 2(g) and Committee Rule 9, I move that the remainder of
today's hearing on the disclosures of national security
information and impact on military operations and proceedings
up to five additional consecutive days of hearings on this
subject shall be closed to the public because disclosure of
testimony, evidence, and other matters to be considered would
endanger national security.
The Chairman. The question is on the motion of the
gentleman from Texas, Mr. Thornberry.
So many as are in favor will vote aye.
Those opposed no. House and committee rules require a
recorded vote. The clerk will call the roll.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. McKeon?
The Chairman. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. McKeon votes aye.
Mr. Smith?
Mr. Smith. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Smith votes aye.
Mr. Bartlett?
Mr. Bartlett. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Bartlett votes aye.
Mr. Reyes?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Reyes?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Thornberry?
Mr. Thornberry. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Thornberry votes aye.
Ms. Sanchez?
Ms. Sanchez. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Sanchez votes aye.
Mr. Jones?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Jones?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Forbes?
Mr. Forbes. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Forbes votes aye.
Mr. Andrews?
Mr. Andrews. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Andrews votes aye.
Mr. Miller?
Mr. Miller. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Miller votes aye.
Mrs. Davis?
Mrs. Davis. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Davis votes aye.
Mr. Wilson?
Mr. Wilson. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Wilson votes aye.
Mr. Langevin?
Mr. Langevin. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Langevin votes aye.
Mr. LoBiondo?
Mr. LoBiondo. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. LoBiondo votes aye.
Mr. Larsen?
Mr. Larsen. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Larsen votes aye.
Mr. Turner?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Turner?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Cooper?
Mr. Cooper. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Cooper votes aye.
Mr. Kline?
Mr. Kline. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Kline votes aye.
Ms. Bordallo?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Bordallo?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Courtney?
Mr. Courtney. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Courtney votes aye.
Mr. Franks?
Mr. Franks. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Franks votes aye.
Mr. Loebsack?
Mr. Loebsack. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Loebsack votes aye.
Mr. Shuster?
Mr. Shuster. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Shuster votes aye.
Ms. Tsongas?
Ms. Tsongas. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Tsongas votes aye.
Mr. Conaway?
Mr. Conaway. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Conaway votes aye.
Ms. Pingree?
Ms. Pingree. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Pingree votes aye.
Mr. Lamborn?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Lamborn?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Kissell?
Mr. Kissell. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Kissell votes aye.
Mr. Wittman?
Mr. Wittman. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Wittman votes aye.
Mr. Heinrich?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Heinrich?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Hunter?
Mr. Hunter. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Hunter votes aye.
Mr. Owens?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Owens?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Coffman?
Mr. Coffman. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Coffman votes aye.
Mr. Critz?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Critz?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rigell?
Mr. Rigell. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rigell votes aye.
Ms. Sutton?
Ms. Sutton. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Sutton votes aye.
Mr. Gibson?
Mr. Gibson. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Gibson votes aye.
Ms. Hanabusa?
Ms. Hanabusa. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Hanabusa votes aye.
Mrs. Hartzler?
Mrs. Hartzler. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Hartzler votes aye.
Ms. Hochul?
Ms. Hochul. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Hochul votes aye.
Dr. Heck?
Dr. Heck. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Dr. Heck votes aye.
Ms. Speier?
Ms. Speier. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Speier votes aye.
Mr. Schilling?
Mr. Schilling. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Schilling votes aye.
Mr. Barber?
Mr. Barber. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Barber votes aye.
Mr. Runyan?
Mr. Runyan. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Runyan votes aye.
Mr. Scott?
Mr. Scott. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Scott votes aye.
Mr. Griffin?
Mr. Griffin. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Griffin votes aye.
Mr. Palazzo?
Mr. Palazzo. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Palazzo votes aye.
Mr. West?
Mr. West. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. West votes aye.
Mrs. Roby?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Roby?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brooks?
Mr. Brooks. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brooks votes aye.
Mr. Young?
Mr. Young. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Young votes aye.
Mr. Reyes?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Reyes?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Jones?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Jones?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. McIntyre?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Akin?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Brady?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Turner?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Turner?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Bordallo?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Ms. Bordallo?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rogers?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Lamborn?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Lamborn?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Heinrich?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Heinrich?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Owens?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Owens?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Dr. Fleming?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Garamendi?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Critz?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Critz?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Rooney?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Ryan?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Platts?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson?
Mr. Johnson. Aye.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Johnson votes aye.
Mrs. Roby?
[No response.]
Ms. Pearce. Mrs. Roby?
The Chairman. Is there any Member who hasn't voted? The
clerk will report the tally.
Ms. Pearce. Mr. Chairman, there are 44 ayes.
The Chairman. A majority of the committee being present,
the motion is agreed to. Pursuant to the previously adopted
motion, I ask unanimous consent that the chair be authorized to
declare a recess.
Without objection, so ordered.
The chair declares this hearing in recess. We will resume
this hearing in closed session tomorrow, July 19th, at 10 a.m.
in this building, 2118.
We will now move into the sequestration hearing as soon as
the witnesses have taken their place at the table. This hearing
will now be in recess.
[Whereupon, at 10:22 a.m., the committee was recessed, to
reconvene at 10:00 a.m., July 19, 2012, in closed session.]
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